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Thursday's Frosty Mug

Some things to read while waiting for your red cake truffles to solidify.

It's picture time, once again: So Mat Gamel, the last Brewer to report to spring training, reported with a previously unknown shoulder impingement that will prevent him from throwing for the time being. Gamel's decision not to mention his shoulder trouble, his similar decision not to mention his elbow trouble in September and his late appearance in camp have combined to earn him a meeting with team officials in the not so distant future. I doubt they'll discuss Gamel's appearance as one of 11 Brewer prospects featured in FanGraphs' overview of Brewer prospects.

While Gamel will be unable to throw, the Brewers are left with Mike Lamb, Casey McGehee and Craig Counsell as the only healthy third basemen in camp. Bill Hall walked on a treadmill and took ground balls on his knees yesterday, but the team is being cautious with his rehab from a partially torn calf.

Mark Attanasio addressed the team yesterday, discussing the payroll situation. This had to create some potentially awkward moments, like this quote:
"Doug [Melvin, Milwaukee's general manager] has very quietly over the past few weeks shored up the pitching," said Attanasio, who addressed the team Wednesday ahead of its first full-squad workout. "We feel a little more comfortable with [the pitching]. I think when we saw everybody at the fan event [in Milwaukee last month], we were still at a bit of a discomfort point."
I think we're almost all in agreement that the pitching staff needed the boost it got from the Looper signing, but I'm not sure I'd say that to Seth McClung's face.

Not everyone's a big fan of the "shoring up" that was done, however: the Trevor Hoffman signing appeared on two ballots in Dugout Central's vote for worst offseason acquisition.

The Gagne signing doesn't just add another arm to the Brewer bullpen, it might also add another Brewer representative to the World Baseball Classic. The Official Site reports that Gagne, like Yovani Gallardo, is still undecided on pitching in the Classic. Ryan Braun (USA), Vinny Rottino and Mark Difelice (Italy) have committed to play. R.J. Swindle and Alexandre Periard (Canada) and Jorge Julio (Venezuela) have declined invitations to play.

There are a handful of early power rankings and projections out there, but many of them don't view the Brewers too kindly: File this note under B for "Be careful what you wish for:" Kyle from Goatriders of the Apocalypse is worried the Cubs will not have significant enough competition in the NL Central to prepare the team for the playoffs.

In Iowa it likely won't be an option, but if I move back to Wisconsin someday I'll likely have to have a Brewer license plate.

On the transaction wire:

Astros: Are not interested in Ivan Rodriguez, leaving the Marlins as his likely only option.
Mariners: Have reportedly reached a deal with Ken Griffey, but I do recognize this is the second time in seven days I've said that.
Orioles: Are close to signing Brian Roberts to a four year deal worth $40 million.
Phillies: May issue identical offers to LHPs Joe Beimel, Will Ohman and Dennys Reyes and sign whoever accepts it first.
Rays: Avoided arbitration with Willy Aybar, agreeing to a two year deal worth $2.3 million.

It's still hard to compete for a job when you're not in camp: Mariners OF Wladimir Balentien is absent from Mariners camp, joining the list of players with visa issues.

There are always a litany of spring training injuries, but only one that involves going home and eating ice cream: Evan Longoria left Rays workouts yesterday due to pain from having his wisdom teeth extracted last Friday.

Oh, and Casey McGehee may or may not be a 2009 Brewer, but Cubs fans will be seeing him all season either way.

Drink up.

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A warm sticky mess, KL?

Also, why would Longoria wait so long to get his wisdom teeth extracted?

by tcyoung on Feb 19, 2009 9:31 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'm 29 and I still have mine

Its quite obviously a conspiracy between dentists and oral surgeons. They are NOT close to coming in, they aren’t giving me pain or discomfort, they are nothing of an issue (finally the dentist admitted this to me at my last check up), yet they kept telling me I HAD to get them out.

by Charlie Marlow on Feb 19, 2009 9:38 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Unless you're referring to the truffles, I'm not sure what the "Warm, sticky mess" comment was about.

But yeah, they were a messy project.

As for Longoria, he’s younger than me and I’ve never had mine out.

He’s not the worst pitcher ever, just the worst good pitcher.

by KLSnow on Feb 19, 2009 9:38 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I still have my wisdom teeth, too

And I’m 36.

I must have one of the few relatively sensible dentists. He doesn’t see any reason to extract them unless (a) they are causing me pain (which they’re not) or (b) they start to decay, because it is difficult to drill and apply fillings way back there (but then I think, ‘why is it easier to do an extraction way back there?’ but I haven’t said that out loud yet).

It's called "playing the percentages."

by hilbelink on Feb 19, 2009 10:32 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They’ve been in as long as I can remember. I also remember a dentist almost 20 years ago who told me he wanted to yank ‘em. I don’t remember him saying why. I never saw him again.

It's called "playing the percentages."

by hilbelink on Feb 19, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Still have mine too

I’m 34. They came in years ago. They are essentially straight and have never (knock on wood) caused me any problems.

by Oakland Brewer Fan on Feb 19, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

File this note under B for “Be careful what you wish for:” Kyle from Goatriders of the Apocalypse is worried the Cubs will not have significant enough competition in the NL Central to prepare the team for the playoffs.

Typical Cubs fan, putting them in the playoffs thinking far out of the box before a game has even been played IN SPRING TRAINING. His article is also pointless considering the fact it’s been close the past two years, anyways, and they’ve failed to even win a single game in the playoffs.

Seriously, I weep for White Sox fans. I just don’t know how they live with the neighbors who just can’t shut up.

by Lavender on Feb 19, 2009 9:51 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

son of a.....

that really pisses me off. i’m just happy i’m moving out of illinois in the the next month or two…..or three. they have been crowned by the media and themselves as the WS champs for the past two years. what happens? no wins in the playoffs. none. zip. nothing. no wins. nothing but zeros in the wins column. how are they still gloating about sucking?

"....si si Peeeeedro"

by trippingandy on Feb 19, 2009 9:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

that is particularly ironic given the '08 results

Last year, they were swept by the Dodgers. The 84-win Dodgers. The “champions” of the weakest division in baseball. A team that won fewer regular-season games than FOUR NL Central teams. Maybe the Cubs should schedule more games with the Astros to get them ready for the first round next year.

Or Buffalo.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Feb 19, 2009 9:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

In fairness to the Cubs

They did defeat the Dodger Stadium visitors’ dugout.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Feb 19, 2009 10:31 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Also, cheese.

by tcyoung on Feb 20, 2009 9:41 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

FYI

Anybody with the MLB netowrk, they’re currently airing a condensed version of the ‘58 World Series. Up next, they’re highlighting the entire 1982 season.

"You guys know me. I take a long time to analyze things."
- Ned Yost

by SunglassesAtNight on Feb 19, 2009 10:42 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

HELP

I’m in a Deadspin fantasy league and I can’t come up with a funny team name for the life of me. Anti-Cubs is encouraged

Vegas is in a class unto-itself, it's really not a "city", more a wonderland of awesomeness.

-Zeke

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Feb 19, 2009 11:07 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Baby Fukudome, 2009 SHOTY

"You guys know me. I take a long time to analyze things."
- Ned Yost

by SunglassesAtNight on Feb 19, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

leader in the clubhouse…

Vegas is in a class unto-itself, it's really not a "city", more a wonderland of awesomeness.

-Zeke

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Feb 19, 2009 2:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The Michael Bourn Ultimatum: Out of options

how’s that one for a late chaser?

I just sit back and root for the taser

by Hyatt on Feb 19, 2009 2:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

too long

Vegas is in a class unto-itself, it's really not a "city", more a wonderland of awesomeness.

-Zeke

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Feb 19, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Go with a Yostism

You have no concept, 8th Inning Guy or Run Scorer would be good.

by Getting Yosted on Feb 19, 2009 11:16 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Macha Men

"You have no honor!" - McClung to Fukudome

by zsxander567 on Feb 19, 2009 4:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

There's always Cobra Kai Dojo...

… or some variant there of.

I also like “Rodents of Unusual Size” for any fantasy team name.

They aren’t specific to baseball, of course.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Feb 19, 2009 5:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So, in that Tom H article.

Really, normally I don’t have AS big a problem with him as most here (mostly because I ignore him), butin the article on Fielder, he starts talking about how Fielder didn’t like the contract the Brewers renewed him to last year. Then he says something to the effect of “Prince Fielder has four kids to feed and a family to take care of”.

My problem with this is, it is extremely frustrating when pro athletes say stuff like this when they are making so much money. Why would the Brewers beat reporter say this? Some people might misconstrue is like Prince was the one saying this, and that would be unfair to him.

Eric Gagne DL time: May 23-June 29 Brewers record in that span: 20-9

by NoahJ on Feb 19, 2009 11:24 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I believe Fielder had come out and said that

TH was probably making reference to that.

by tcyoung on Feb 19, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you, though

If Tom wanted to make a reference Fielder’s excuses, he should have worded it differently. Quotes like that should not be defended.

by tcyoung on Feb 19, 2009 11:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

In Fielder's defense...

Each and every one of us could live on $670,000. It’s possible that all of us, collectively, make less than that.

But, here’s the difference: Fielder could trip in the clubhouse tomorrow and be done earning income for the rest of his life.

Professional athletes aren’t struggling to feed their kids today. But, the money they make between ages 20-35 is the vast majority of money they’ll make in their lives. So I can somewhat understand Fielder’s desire to make as much money as he can now, because he knows he’ll have four kids to put through college and continuing expenses to pay for well into his 50’s, long after his playing career is over.

He’s not the worst pitcher ever, just the worst good pitcher.

by KLSnow on Feb 19, 2009 12:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

pension

how much of a pension do retired baseball players make btw?

by BrewerBlue87 on Feb 19, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If that were to happen

He could still have enough money to pay to put himself through college.

I don’t have any sympathy when professional athletes say they have to feed their families. I guarantee Prince can use his celebrity status to get a free meal whenever he wants. I understand players wanting more money and being upset about not getting money that they feel they deserve, but that doesn’t mean they should be out of touch with reality.

by tcyoung on Feb 19, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I guarantee Prince can use his celebrity status to get a free meal whenever he wants.

Right now. But I bet we can all name an example or two of a guy who’s run out of money and now has to take every paycheck he can get, in depressing fashion.

Last week, for example, I watched Dominique Wilkins, who can barely run and can’t jump, get outpaced by C-list celebrities in the NBA All-Star Celebrity Game.

He’s not the worst pitcher ever, just the worst good pitcher.

by KLSnow on Feb 19, 2009 1:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

and for former MVPs

those paychecks come in the form of $25g or $50g a pop for baseball card shows. Tough life.

If Prince is so concerned about his financial future (and you’re right, the baseball money could end) … live on $100k. Save $300 or $400k, and if everything went horribly wrong in 2008, he could go buy a car dealership or something and have a reasonably lucrative real job for the rest of his life, leaving plenty of time for golfing.

Nobody’s even “done earning income for the rest of their life” unless they want to be. (Except in rare circumstances, and Prince getting a career-ending injury doesn’t count.) Worst case scenario for somebody like him is that he has to parlay his celebrity while it’s still fresh into a sinecure that, heaven forbid, won’t catapult him into the ranks of the super rich.

Or, of course, much more likely, he stays healthy and signs a two-year $18MM contract, with much more to come.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Feb 19, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree that he could hurt himself.

But than, like evferyone else has already said, there are plenty of options afforded to him by having that spare $600,000 sitting around. An education at a UW school will probably end up running me about $40-50,000.

One thing nobody has mentioned yet is he could maybe get a job in the business, though. As a tv personality or as a hitting coach somewhere. I don’t know how much that would pay, maybe you or Jeff would know. But there are plenty of opportunities for him to earn a pretty good income elsewhere. And still have whatever would have been left of that 600 grand left over to invest or keep in a savings or whatever.

Eric Gagne DL time: May 23-June 29 Brewers record in that span: 20-9

by NoahJ on Feb 19, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Great

Another year, another pre-spring training gas up of the Reds by the “media”.

"You have no honor!" - McClung to Fukudome

by zsxander567 on Feb 19, 2009 1:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Marxist Empire

I know he’s a former Brewer (farmhand), but for notables in the WBC, we can’t forget the immortal Maxim St. Pierre of Team Canada.

C. Magruder scored, R. Weeks to second on balk

by alkaseitzer on Feb 19, 2009 6:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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