Game Thread #-34: Brewers (0-1-1) at A's (0-1-1)
by Kyle Lobner on Feb 27, 2009 12:00 PM CST
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PrintSorry I missed the Mug this morning - technical difficulties. Internet was out when I got up and didn't come back until after 10:30.
I hope everyone is taking this opportunity to get into shape for the regular season. Yesterday's game, for example, gave me my first opportunity to delete a troll. (Thanks for stopping by, Cubs fans!)
Today, it's Manny Parra (NR) taking on former Brewer farmhand Dana Eveland (NR) for the A's. Game time is at 2:05 at Phoenix Municipal Stadium.
Let's get a win today!
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Someone stopped by to say hello in the post-game thread.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by Kyle Lobner on Feb 27, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
Let's do this
My first game thread of the season at work, always a good time.
BCB, the preferred above replacement level sarcasm supplier.
Indeed.... It is on the radio as I recall
So will enjoy have one earpiece in listening while working!
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
I think I need to start using the preview button as long as you can't edit!
My grammar is far worse than any jsonline reporter
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Yahoo! note
The game threads do not appear on the Yahoo! Brewers page.
by Marty McSuperFly on Feb 27, 2009 12:25 PM CST reply actions
That’s a shame
BCB, the preferred above replacement level sarcasm supplier.
by MadJimiBrewha on Feb 27, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, only stories we submit for distribution show up on the Yahoo page
But once the regular season starts, our game threads are supposed to show up as part of Yahoo’s live box score page.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by Kyle Lobner on Feb 27, 2009 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
it means, “tell the world this is a must-win game!!”
nah, it’s just a techie feature of the blogging platform.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Feb 27, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
Gagne, I think
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
I was watching the Ken Burns documentary Baseball last night
And they were playing a clip of Sandy Koufax’s perfect game… and if I heard correctly it was Harvey Kuenn who made the last out of the game
According to baseball reference he had a .114 batting average vs Sandy all time…
Good little piece of trivia for you… maybe I should have put it in a form of a question and given out a free Rickie Weeks bobblehead for the correct answer… ohh well
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
and Harvey was
The final out in another one of Sandy’s no-hitters two years earlier in 1963- according some research
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Also Harvey was
The final out in another one of Sandy’s no-hitters two years earlier in 1963- according some research
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Is that research being done by the Redundant Research Center for Researching Redundancy?
:-)
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
oooh
With a Rickie bobblehead, I could start a new shelf at work.
by Marty McSuperFly on Feb 27, 2009 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
I think
there should be insulting or derogatory bobbleheads. Like Bill Hall at the plate, completing his swing, with the ball past him.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
My friends and I used to suggest the same thing.....
Our first idea was a “Wes Helms Bobble-Glove Night.” The head wouldn’t bobble, but the glove would bobble violently.
I miss the slide, the balloons, and the giant beer mug. :(
If I worked with you
I would complain to human resources about that display.
September 15: Not a bad little Monday
New trends for 2009
Bill Hall love is coming back!
by Marty McSuperFly on Feb 27, 2009 6:18 PM CST up reply actions
Brewers lineup:
1. Jason Kendall C
2. Chris Duffy CF
3. Corey Hart RF
4. Prince Fielder 1B
5. Trot Nixon LF
6. Casey McGehee 3B
7. Craig Counsell 2B
8. Mike Lamb DH
9. Alcides Escobar SS
Mark DiFelice, Chase Wright, Omar Aguilar, R.J. Swindle and Chris Narveson will also pitch.
Also, McCalvy notes that Todd Coffey’s son’s birth has been pushed back a week, so Coffey is still with the team.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
And for the A's:
Rajai Davis CF
Travis Buck RF
Matt Holliday LF
Jason Giambi 1B
Jack Cust DH
Kurt Suzuki C
Bobby Crosby SS
Joe Dillon 3B
Cliff Pennington 2B
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
It's funny
Giambi’s most recent two teams might just be the only teams that would play him a majority of time in the field, rather than at DH.
(Well, ok, I suppose NL teams would probably put him in the field, too.)
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Feb 27, 2009 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
Pushed back?
Is it is natural birth or c-section (sp?)
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
no way that kid lets his dad lose a spot to jorge julio
He’s on board with the delay.
by Marty McSuperFly on Feb 27, 2009 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
It's a c section.
Was scheduled for tomorrow, but it’s been delayed a week.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
when we know for sure the method by which our possible 7th reliever’s child is going to be born, is it possible that fandom has gone too far?
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Feb 27, 2009 1:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey, it's spring training.
Would you rather go back to talking about Eric Gagne?
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
whenever you’re ready to accept that you were wrong about gagne, I’m ready to go back to talking about gagne :).
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Feb 27, 2009 2:03 PM CST up reply actions
Dana Eveland trade
That trade looks a little worse everyday.
We gave Eveland and Doug Davis for Johnny Estrada, Vargas, and Aquino.
Betweeen Eveland and Jorge De La Rosa, we should implement a rule about giving young lefties a few more years to develop.
Hidden value
Without Aquino, firenedyost.com might never have been born.
by Marty McSuperFly on Feb 27, 2009 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
So who does that apply to today?
Stetter, Swindle and Wright?
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
I was thinking Chase Wright
When we acquired Wright, my thought was that sometimes lefties take a while to develop. I don’t know if any sabremetric type people have verified whether its true.
I think lefties tend to play until they are older
but that might just be because there are more roster spots for LOOGYs than for one-out RHPs. Either way, I’m pretty sure some analytical work has been done.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Feb 27, 2009 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
Baseball Prospectus took a look here.
A few quotes:
“…Anyway, nothing magical happens for left-handers when they turn 26, or 27 or 28. Bill James studied the issue and ran a chart including data for every left-handed pitcher born between 1920 and 1939 (The Bill James Baseball Abstract 1983, page 211). The lefties posted a .505 winning percentage from ages 23 through 26, and a .507 winning percentage from ages 27 through 30.”
“Did you ever hear the saying that lefthanders don’t find themselves until age 26? It’s obviously a ‘magic’ theory – there is a magic about turning 26 – but people say it, so there must be people who believe it…on balance, though, there’s nothing to it. Nothing too much happens to left-handed pitchers as a group at age 26. Their wins increase by 17; their losses increase by 13.”
The author did his own studies and determined:
I was hoping I’d have a nugget of wisdom to offer those of you brave enough—or masochistic enough—to slog your way through this mess of a column. Unfortunately, the only thing I can offer you is this: Bill James was right. Maybe a good percentage of left-handers have a breakout season around age 26, but that’s only because a good percentage of all pitchers break out at that age. Yes, there are many examples of left-handers who didn’t reach their full potential until their late 20s, but there are just as many examples of right-handers who took just as long.
hmm
that seems like the wrong way to go about things. (and I did read the article).
the right way seems pretty simple — calculate aging curves (including minor league data) for all pitchers, then break them out by RHP and LHP. I’d be shocked if nobody has done that work, esp. among the guys who do projections. (Like, uh, me … I think my system assumes that LHPs peak a year later, but I don’t know that I had any evidence for setting it up like that.)
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Feb 27, 2009 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not ready to bemoan the loss of JDLR yet.
He’s had one nice half season in Colorado, following half a dozen seasons where he had awesome potential and negative results. He seems like the classic guy who needed to bounce around enough to find the right scenery.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
i was furious about the JDLR trade.
i was certain he’d have a big 2008, at the time i wrote the rant above I figured he was two years away. i was wrong, he was expendable. he showed very little improvement from ‘07→’08 and probably has peaked as a good lefty out of the bullpen.
i learned my lesson and didn’t complain too much about dana eveland, and downright celebrated will inman’s trade. :)
Bring Back The Old Logo!
I don't know...
most of the ink that has lately been spilled re JDLR has to do with his second half, but even just looking at his entire season as a starter…
A 5.09 ERA doesn’t look very good, of course, but adjusted for Coors, the OPS+ against is about average. CHONE projects him as a full-time starter with a 4.67 ERA, more valuable than (oh, just pulling a name out of a hat here) Braden Looper. I certainly wouldn’t mind having him right now, though of course there might’ve been some pain involved keeping him on the roster this long.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Feb 27, 2009 2:33 PM CST up reply actions
One of his coaches back then was this guy
Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.
Ankiel looking pretty good in this Cards game
Ankiel = Another Marty Favorite™
by Marty McSuperFly on Feb 27, 2009 1:45 PM CST reply actions
that is one of my favorite youtubes
My favorite line… Is this real life?
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Rock!!!!
The dulcet tones of Brian Anderson and Bill Schroeder. Oh, how I enjoy this moment, five minutes before I start making fun of them again.
by Marty McSuperFly on Feb 27, 2009 2:12 PM CST reply actions
I was just shocked
that it made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside to hear their voices. weird. very weird.
by Braunstalker on Feb 27, 2009 2:17 PM CST up reply actions
Provis in?
Sounds like they are giving Corey more time to practice and get used to Brewers names and stuff.
#1 piece of advice
Rock says, “Don’t try to pull the broadcast.”
by Marty McSuperFly on Feb 27, 2009 2:23 PM CST up reply actions
please tell me...
How can I listen to the game!! I want to listen so bad
The guy just confused Escobar and Kendall
Not exactly twins
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
escobar kicks up a lot of dirt in the infield. all he saw was the grit.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Feb 27, 2009 2:33 PM CST up reply actions
C'mon DeFelice
Show Gagne he’s got some competition.
by Marty McSuperFly on Feb 27, 2009 2:34 PM CST reply actions
anyone else here really want DiFelice to make the team?
"my goodness"
by BrewHaHeather on Feb 27, 2009 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
I do...
I like him, but think him not making the team at the beginning of the year doesn’t mean the end of the world, in fact would be surprised if he didn’t make it up one time during the year
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
he looks good to me
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
I hope not
cuz I just paid $14.95 for a subscription to gameday audio
"my goodness"
by BrewHaHeather on Feb 27, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
Good for Corey
but, I have to disagree with the announcer that Corey “always came through” in runner on, 2-out situations last year…
by Oakland Brewer Fan on Feb 27, 2009 3:19 PM CST reply actions
I liked the point
I never have heard of the name Cutter either
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
I hope Dykstra become an everyday player on the team somewhere down the road
just because Cutter Dykstra is pretty much the coolest name I’ve ever heard
"my goodness"
by BrewHaHeather on Feb 27, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
Identity crisis
Don’t know if you guys have noticed, but clockwerks at SBNation was kind enough to transfer my username to something more reflective of my actual name, “Jordan M”. I liked using the name “jihad” and I will still use it around other sites on the internets, but in doing front-page posts here and explaining that in real-life— just don’t need/want the trouble of being named after a holy war. I’ll have my alternate identity in my signature and on my profile page, and I’ll leave the avatar the same so your color association will be with me. Most of you probably wouldn’t notice that the name is changed, I know I instantly look at the avatar to see who wrote something.
And like NoahJ, you can just address me as Jordan, not Jordan M. Or jihad if you’re in the habit.
Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.
I always liked your username..
this kinda makes me a little bit sad.
Eric Gagne DL time: May 23-June 29 Brewers record in that span: 20-9
I did too
I’m still using it elsewhere. Just got strange to say to people outside of the internets that my user/profile name was “jihad”. People misinterpret that word.
The artist formerly known as jihad.
uh oh
Iribarren with a bad throw to first.
by Marty McSuperFly on Feb 27, 2009 3:32 PM CST reply actions
Wow
Sounds like some decent defense, running into the outfield wall and making a catch
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Reports of TGJ crying are greatly exaggerated
Might be one tear, two tears, ten tears. Hard to say.
by Marty McSuperFly on Feb 27, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
Anyway
the definition of “tear” is nebulous.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Feb 27, 2009 3:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
actually it was rec'd
but recs don’t show up until you reload the page.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Feb 27, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
Shoot, we've been...
nah, too easy.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Feb 27, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
Boy, Jack Cust is silly
or at least it appears he looks that way. Strikeout swinging…on three straight pitches, and three whiffs.
by Charlie Marlow on Feb 27, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
me too
It would be funny to go to a game and see a pitch with the same speed (obviously not curve) which a 10 year old can pitch
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Even though you refrained
Flagged for even thinking it.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
I think I get it
You were going to say Robbed, right? Because his name is Rob?
Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.
No!
It would only be “Robbed” if his MLB contract were guaranteed. Silly.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Feb 27, 2009 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
Dangit
Any more of this misinterpretation and people might think I cheer for some other NL Central team.
Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.
Thorman
RBI double and knocks in Vinny Rottino
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Escobar single
Knocks in another run and the Brewers go up two
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
WOW
Nixon is playing terrible. Looks like duffy for 4th outfielder unless he picks it up, i havent seen any games on tv yet.
Mike P
It's been a long time since I've seen Nixon play well
by Marty McSuperFly on Feb 27, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
It seems as though I'm going to have to get a new profile picture.
A false hope, I suppose.
How far will this one fly?
RBI Double by Cutter
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
I think it's acutally pronounced Angel
"my goodness"
by BrewHaHeather on Feb 27, 2009 4:46 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah im listening to the A's announcers on MLB Audio
and they were trying way to hard to pronounce his name
Just like when Santa stubbed his toe getting in the sleigh
“On Dancer, On Prancer, On Dasher, On…Hell!”
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Feb 27, 2009 4:50 PM CST up reply actions
410 feet?
That’s only like 120 times his height isn’t it?
Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.
Wow I am an idiot
No wonder people aren’t reacting. The previous comment (now deleted) is a link to a Bleed Cubbie Blue story, the good one is about Brian Bocock. You can’t not pass on a link like that.
The artist formerly known as jihad.
Yeah, sure, it was for the injury, whatever they say
I think this is another of those Craig Counsell glove stories, but this one involves the Big Unit.
Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.
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