**UPDATEx3**BPro Projection: Brewers 86-76, highest SLG% in MLB
From Clay at BP:
UPDATE 2/11/09
OK, we’ve got a few more bases covered. In the PFM, all the fielding data should be up-to-date, so Ryan Braun is back to being an exclusive left fielder. There was a pretty big problem with the players I added manually, as a temporary patch - Moyer, Uehara, and a few more. We got the programs to read their data, and so now they show up in the PFM and in the depth charts - trouble was, “WHIP” wasn’t one of the fields I initially entered, and when the PFM saw guys with 100 innings and a zero WHIP it gave them all Sabathia-sized contracts. That is fixed. These players still don’t have entries in all fields, though, and if your league uses one of the un-entered fields those players could still have strange results.
On the depth charts, the batting/onbase/slugging digits problems has been broken, fixed, re-broken, and re-fixed, and I think I know where I made the mistake that re-broke them so it should (fingers crossed) not happen again, unless I come up with a third way to break them. The quality start numbers have been largely repaired, but more in the sense of a field dressing than a proper fix; I’ll revisit them shortly.What else - I’m going to redo the way saves are handled tonight, so expect the PFM pitcher results to look a lot better tomorrow morning. Braden Looper signed with the Brewers yesterday, so I had him displace some of the spot starters on their roster. I fixed a typo that had Josh Willingham drawing 5% of left field time instead of 75%. I’d like to get the PECOTA-based Playoff Odds report up and running in the next couple of days, and play around with some of the remaining free agents.
Top of the NL:
Cubs: now 97-65
Mets: now 92-70
Diamondbacks: now 92-70
Braves: now 87-75
Phillies: now 87-75
Brewers: now 86-76
Dodgers: now 84-78
Cardinals: 80-82
Giants: now 78-84
Brewers RS: now 833. RA:770. Second most runs in the NL (Cubs, 885), third in MLB (Boston, 849)
EVERYDAY PLAYERS
Player: Line (PT)
Weeks: .269/.373/.442 (75)
Hardy: .284/.344/.459 (80)
Braun: .296/.362/.560 (90)
Fielder: .286/.380/.527 (90)
Hart: .289/.343/.494 (90)
Cameron: .254/.345/.472 (75)
Hall: .253/.332/.459 (70)
Grit Master: .251/.320/.323 (55)
BENCH
Player: Line (PT)
Gwynn: .249/.308/.329 (25)
Rivera: .210/.270/.335 (30)
Salome: .280/.333/.433 (15)
Counsell: .245/.349/.326 (25)
Escobar: .264/.302/.351 (20)
Nelson: .240/.328/.399 (10)
Gamel: .258/.325/.431 (10)
Lamb: .265/.333/.397 (30)
Nixon: .248/.355/.407 (10)
PITCHERS
Player: ERA, WHIP (IP)
Gallardo: 3.73, 1.30 (140)
Suppan: 4.91, 1.48 (140)
Bush: 4.27, 1.29 (175)
Parra: 4.40, 1.45 (140)
Looper: 4.62 1.39 (125)
McClung: 4.51, 1.48 (80)
Villanueva: 3.88, 1.29 (50/50)
Wright: 6.18, 1.76 (60)
Capuano: 4.28, 1.33 (50)
Hoffman: 3.41, 1.16 (45)
Julio: 4.26, 1.52 (50)
Riske: 4.76, 1.53 (45)
Stetter: 3.86, 1.38 (50)
Coffey: 4.21, 1.48 (40)
Dillard: 5.34, 1.62 (50)
DiFilice: 3.99, 1.19 (70)
Morlan: 5.65, 1.57 (50)
Swindle: 3.69, 1.27 (50)
BREWERS SLUGGING PERCENTAGE: .434. The Yankees and Cubs are second, at .433. In fourth is Arizona, at .432. Brewers projected line: .260/.334/.434.
The Cubs have the second highest OBP projected, at .346. First is Boston at .347.
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Clay Davenport of BP:
As of this morning, the Depth Charts and Player Forecast Manager (which ultimately rely on the same sources) are up and running.
That’s not to say that all is done, no no no. I’m going to be your executive guide this year, and I expect to follow an update schedule that will be pretty close to daily (I’m setting 9 PM eastern, as my target) throughout the fantasy draft season – allowing that there will be days when nothing significantly chart-changing happens. And we all know that the fantasy season doesn’t end with the draft, so I’m aiming to keep these updated throughout the season – dropping to weekly – where they will also serve as improved inputs to our playoff odds reports.
"Chart-changing events" are primarily going to be clear and obvious – a player signs, or gets cut, or gets injured. I am not going to be changing somebody’s playing time because he went 3-3 in a spring training game; that’s a severe over-reaction. I’m a fairly serious fantasy player, in contrast to some of the other BP writers, and I’m approaching this as exactly as I would one of my own drafts (I have my first one on 2/21, less than two weeks from now – got some open spots if you’re in the DC area. Play against someone who’s giving you his entire draft prep!).
A lot will depend on spring training games, though – I really don’t see a clear choice between Gaby Sanchez and Dallas McPherson in Florida, nor do I see any obvious answers as to how the Yankee center field situation will shake out. In situations like that I’ve often split the baby, knowing that one of them is likely to push close to 100% while the other drops down near zero. The numbers that I’ve put down are meant to be big averages – as if we had a large number of universes with their own baseball seasons, and in some of them they went with Melky Cabrera again, some with Nick Swisher, and some with Brett Gardner. I have not tried to capture any effects of trading personnel or signing free agents – the depth charts are based on allocating reasonable amounts of time to the players they have now. Minor league callups, however, are included, albeit subject to big(ger than otherwise) error bars.
As I write this, the appearance of the cards is the same as last year’s. There are some changes coming, like getting comments onto the individual team cards. I’d like to be able to explain my thinking on specific cases, and I want to hear from people who, frankly, know more about most of these teams than I do. I am quite sure that the best way to do that is to contain the discussions to each team – else the Giant and Twin comments will have a hard time cutting through the expected New York/Boston flood. The downside is that it gives me 30 threads to read.
Most of the software that we have to run the depth charts was already in place, and I’m admittedly still learning to use it. I made several "fixes" over the weekend, only to realize that it was already covered and had to fix it right back. I’m seeing some of this output for the first time as I type this, and like a freshly painted wall, I can see several places where I need to touch up. The batting/onbase/slug numbers are only going to two significant digits – that looks like a copy/paste artifact, and at least is easy to fix. There are a few players who are in my data but aren’t showing up – Kenji Kawakama and Koji Uehara, I’m looking at you, but I’m not seeing you. You guys need to be added to our master registry. The games started figures are so far out of whack that I must have made a serious mistake somewhere, and the way the PFM hands out saves is something I’ve grumbled about before – I’ll be revisiting both of those topics. No, I don’t really think Mark DeRosa will bat ninth for the Indians; add "double-check all lineup orders" to the to-do list. There are a number of players, maybe a dozen, who did not have a PECOTA projection, and I subbed in what was basically their three-year average DT; those should get fixed when we get the next PECOTA run from Nate, possibly with a very different forecast.
So please, don’t tell me about those problems, I already know about them. Do let me know if you spot something else, particularly any players on a wrong team – I really hate it when I do that. Enjoy, debate, use, criticize; I’m looking forward to having you help me make these the best depth charts available on the web.
Clay
by HRF on Feb 9, 2009 2:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
yeah, that's insane
I don’t see it. They didn’t deserve any better than 82-83 wins last year, and I don’t see how they get much better. Randy Johnson was very good last year, and Jon Garland won’t replace him … plus they are losing both Brandon Lyon and (presumably) Jose Cruz from the pen. No two months of Adam Dunn, either. I’m sure we’re expecting improvement from some or all of Snyder/Jackson/Drew/Upton/Young, but only Young (of those guys) looks like he underwhelmed last year.
Oh, and Orlando Hudson > some people > some people > some people > Felipe Lopez.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Feb 9, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s about right, actually. From Vegas Watch:
The D’Backs don’t have any superstars on offense, but they don’t have any starters with a VORP under 13.2. That’s enough for them to be average, and with Webb/Haren/Scherzer in the rotation, average is sufficient. Even if you put Manny in left in LA, there is still some separation between Arizona and the Dodgers.
by HRF on Feb 9, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They're really still citing VORP?
Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.
by Jordan M on Feb 9, 2009 5:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Vegas Watch or BP? That quote was the Vegas Watch guy.
by HRF on Feb 9, 2009 6:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That would make sense.
Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.
by Jordan M on Feb 9, 2009 6:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree there are certainly better ways of saying it, but the point of it is valid enough. Not bad every day players, two aces… a lot like a certain team from 2008 we all hold near and dear.
by HRF on Feb 9, 2009 6:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't doubt they have a good shot at winning the division, but...
My point is that they are losing some good players, and not replacing them. If Scherzer is the second coming of Lincecum immediately, then fine, 91 wins is reasonable. But otherwise, I don’t see where 9 more wins are coming from.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Feb 9, 2009 5:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t get me wrong, I as well think it’s a bit on the high side. But I do think it’ll be closer to 91 than 81.
by HRF on Feb 9, 2009 6:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Are they still expecting Eric Byrnes to start?
Anecdotal evidence, aka “me watching him play live at ballpark” indicates that Conor Jackson is absolutely brutal in LF, at least in domes, but the fielding stats indicate that Byrnes is worse. And CoJack isn’t any great shakes at 1B, either….
by morineko on Feb 9, 2009 4:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In these rough projections, Byrnes is getting 35, Jackson 55.
by HRF on Feb 9, 2009 4:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
interesting comparison
Last year, D-backs gave up 720 runs, allowed 706.
This year, Brewers projected: 823, 807.
And the D-Backs play in a seriously hitter-friendly park. They play road games at Pac Bell and Petco, but they also play road games at Coors!
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Feb 9, 2009 3:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
PECOTA-based draft prep
For what it’s worth, I’ve tried to use Davenport’s VORP- and WARP- projected values for my fantasy drafts for 3 years in a row now. I haven’t won any of my leagues and only finished in the top 3 once.
Of course there’s luck and skill involved in drafts too. I’m not going to stop using the spreadsheets or the awesome Player Forecast Manager, I don’t think my drafting skills will ever get much better than they are now, so I’ll just have to keep hoping my luck improves ;).
by balldeagle on Feb 9, 2009 3:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
See I do the same thing
and I’ve won 8 of the last 12 leagues I’ve been in. Thing is, you have to use one of the later projections, like a mid march one. I got burned on Dallas McPherson my first year doing it.
I just sit back and root for the taser
by Hyatt on Feb 9, 2009 6:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Somebody should start a BCB fantas league on a free site like CBS or Yahoo.
I think it would be a fun thing to do for bragging rights.
Eric Gagne DL time: May 23-June 29 Brewers record in that span: 20-9
by NoahJ on Feb 9, 2009 7:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
there's been one each of the last few years
probably won’t get started for a few more weeks though.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Feb 9, 2009 7:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As the resident fantasy expert
I wouldn’t mind showing off the skills that pay the boredom bills
I just sit back and root for the taser
by Hyatt on Feb 10, 2009 5:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I see your lips moving
but all I hear is blahblahblahblah.
:)
I think our last BCB baseball team was from 2006, actually (long live the Ricky Bones-Crushers!). We had football in 2006 and 2007.
That is one thing about fantasy baseball - it makes you pay attention to all of baseball (instead of only the Cream City Crushers). My Bones-Crushers had players like Charlie Haeger and Robinson Tejeda, and I have no idea who those guys are now. Are they still in baseball?
Sackmann favorite Oh Dallas Perez also has a fantasy World Series ring, which he puts on when he goes out to all the fantasy clubs.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Feb 11, 2009 7:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Haeger
The knuckleballer has a minor league deal with the Dodgers. Tejeda’s with the Royals.
Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.
by TheJay on Feb 11, 2009 4:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wait, wasn't the regular season winner really fucking awesome?
yes. yes I am.
I'll warm up with you anytime
by ufoboy90 on Feb 13, 2009 8:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe next you’ll be handing out trophies for preseason games. :)
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Feb 13, 2009 10:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking of suggesting something like
this, but I realized it would be a lot of work. You’d just draft guys, stash them in a spreadsheet + tuck it away, and tally up the WAR at the end of the year. Playing time limits + injuries would make it really complicated, though.
Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.
by Jordan M on Feb 9, 2009 7:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
For Shits and Giggles:
Matt LaPorta:.240/.320/.440
Mat Gamel: .260/.320/.320
Michael Brantley: .260/.330/.330
CC: 210, 3.43, 1.19, 183 K
Branyan: .250/.360/.520 (!!!)
AL:
Boston: 98-64
Yankees: 96-66
Tampa: 92-70
Cleveland: 84-78
Oakland 82-80
Toronto: 81-81
Minnesota: 79-83
Angels: 79-83
Detroit: 78-84
Baltimore: 76-86
Seattle comes in at 70-92, and has them scoring 726 and allowing 839. Runs allowed seems quite a bit high.
More NL teams:
Reds: 79-83
Giants: 79-83
Marlins: 74-88
More fun:
Pujols: .340/.440/.610
Nelson Cruz: .260/.330/.480
Jenkins: .270/.340/.450
by HRF on Feb 9, 2009 4:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Dammit, Gamel’s slugging should be .420, not .320.
by HRF on Feb 9, 2009 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
honestly
I’d be happy with an above .500 record this year, considering how wonderful this off-season has been.
I just sit back and root for the taser
by Hyatt on Feb 9, 2009 6:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
So, by a quick glance, they've got the Brewers ten back of the Cubs, and three back of the Braves and Phillies for the wild card.
There are worse places to start the season.
He’s not the worst pitcher ever, just the worst good pitcher.
by KLSnow on Feb 11, 2009 6:53 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
And this is with Tony Gwynn getting 25% playing time.
I really, really hope Ken Macha is smarter than that.
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by Jack Moore on Feb 11, 2009 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And with Mark Rogers pitching 50 innings?
How did he make his way in there? I understand a team often has to use unforeseen options to pitch innings throughout the course of the year, but that ain’t happening.
by cmow on Feb 11, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But how did he make the list in the first place?
I have an unreasonable dislike of Bill Hall.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Feb 11, 2009 5:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably because he’s on the forty man roster and they had him in one of the four spot starter spots along with Wright, Vills and Cappy.
by HRF on Feb 11, 2009 5:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Still pretty stupid since about 30 seconds worth of research...
… would reveal how unlikely it is that he’ll get a spot start in the bigs this year…
I have an unreasonable dislike of Bill Hall.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Feb 11, 2009 9:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not trying to be a baseball apologist, but for a rough projection before spring training is over and the rosters are finalized, I think they should get a little leeway with looking at the 40 man roster vs researching each and every team for the last three roster spots. It’s a rough projection, one that will get redone and redone as we get closer to the season.
I feel like you’re kind of getting bent out of shape about nothing here. Like… I’d rather they put more time into the formulas and making sure it clicks vs researching potential spot starters for every team that’ll have a negligible impact on the projection, especially when these roles will be made clear by the teams 25 man rosters, which will be available in time to do a final projection.
by HRF on Feb 12, 2009 12:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually I'm not bent out of shape at all....
… I’m also not the guy who’s getting irritated because someone (gasp!) dared to critique the tiniest, most marginal error in a BP projection.
I have an unreasonable dislike of Bill Hall.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Feb 12, 2009 7:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough. Maybe you were just bored.
Do you look at Lost clips all damn day?
I have an unreasonable dislike of Bill Hall.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Feb 12, 2009 5:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not so much that I actively seek them out, it’s that I stumble upon them or get sent them and get massive lulz from them.
I <3 LOST
by HRF on Feb 12, 2009 5:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"UPDATE 2/11/09
OK, we’ve got a few more bases covered. In the PFM, all the fielding data should be up-to-date, so Ryan Braun is back to being an exclusive left fielder. There was a pretty big problem with the players I added manually, as a temporary patch – Moyer, Uehara, and a few more. We got the programs to read their data, and so now they show up in the PFM and in the depth charts – trouble was, "WHIP" wasn’t one of the fields I initially entered, and when the PFM saw guys with 100 innings and a zero WHIP it gave them all Sabathia-sized contracts. That is fixed. These players still don’t have entries in all fields, though, and if your league uses one of the un-entered fields those players could still have strange results.
On the depth charts, the batting/onbase/slugging digits problems has been broken, fixed, re-broken, and re-fixed, and I think I know where I made the mistake that re-broke them so it should (fingers crossed) not happen again, unless I come up with a third way to break them. The quality start numbers have been largely repaired, but more in the sense of a field dressing than a proper fix; I’ll revisit them shortly.
What else – I’m going to redo the way saves are handled tonight, so expect the PFM pitcher results to look a lot better tomorrow morning. Braden Looper signed with the Brewers yesterday, so I had him displace some of the spot starters on their roster. I fixed a typo that had Josh Willingham drawing 5% of left field time instead of 75%. I’d like to get the PECOTA-based Playoff Odds report up and running in the next couple of days, and play around with some of the remaining free agents."
by HRF on Feb 11, 2009 3:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This is a pretty conservative effort for our pitching staff too. Brewers fans should be very happy seeing this.
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by Jack Moore on Feb 12, 2009 2:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
agreed
i think Yo, Parra, and maybe Looper exceed those numbers, although Supp may go the other way.
by marty22 on Feb 13, 2009 6:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If Suppan goes the other way
it’s only because he’s not trying to do too much with it.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
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