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Game Thread #-16: Indians (7-11) at Brewers (9-8-2)

Yesterday the Brewers held the Diamondbacks to one hit. Today, they head back to Maryvale and try to keep the momentum going.

Today, it's Manny Parra taking on Aaron Laffey. Parra is having a great spring, allowing just three earned runs on nine hits in ten innings of work. The Indians are hoping Laffey can provide more than comedy: So far he's allowed seven earned runs in nine innings over four starts.

The game is on WTMJ, or available on Gameday here.

Via Adam McCalvy, here's today's lineup:

Jason Kendall  C
Rickie Weeks  2B
J.J. Hardy  SS
Prince Fielder  1B
Corey Hart  RF
Mike Cameron  CF
Bill Hall  3B
Chris Duffy LF
Manny Parra  LHP

Behind Parra, David Riske, Todd Coffey and new Brewer Wes Littleton are scheduled to pitch today.

Thursday's Game Thread is now open.

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"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 19, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

And a mea culpa

If I had my act together, and didn’t run into problems logging in an whatnot, I totally would have set up a March Madness league for BCB.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Mar 19, 2009 2:20 PM CDT reply actions  

S'ok

I almost toasted my bracket in the first set of games – Memphis is my national champion.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 19, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I picked them too

after 3 games, I’m losing to my daughter. She’s two.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Mar 19, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kendall leading off?

A sign of things to come? Rickie will never be a natural lead-off hitter.

by ecocd on Mar 19, 2009 2:28 PM CDT reply actions  

My dad and I just debated the #8 spot on the phone.

He insists he’ll never support it because Ned did it.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 19, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still like it

If the numbers say it works in the long run, it’ll work in the long run. I hate managers doing things just because it’s tradition. Overall, though, it’s gotta be a minor difference since only two managers have seriously tried it to my knowledge.

by ecocd on Mar 19, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

your dad does have a pretty strong argument…

by Saberilliterate on Mar 19, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would convince me

I just sit back and root for the taser

by Hyatt on Mar 19, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ned tried it, he didn't do it

He didn’t move his #4 hitter up to separate him from the pitcher’s spot, so ultimately it was a failure. Typical Yostian move, try half of a strategy and then look around confused when it doesn’t work.

by Getting Yosted on Mar 19, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

God, he was terrible

I just sit back and root for the taser

by Hyatt on Mar 19, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was exactly my argument.

Batting the pitcher 8th is a small part of the ideal lineup. Until you move your best hitter into the #2 spot, you’re only tinkering with part of it.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 19, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you have a link?

I didn’t know the best hitter went to the 2 spot with the pitcher in the 8 spot. In a ‘traditional’ lineup, does the best hitter bat 3rd?

by ecocd on Mar 19, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's laid out in some detail in

The Book. I should have read that, but haven’t yet.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 19, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reference Section!

The artist formerly known as jihad.

by Jordan M on Mar 19, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL, now I feel like an idiot.

I had completely forgotten it was there.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 19, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uh yeah

Yeah, that would be a good place to look.

by ecocd on Mar 19, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cain, Lucroy and Thorman sent to minor league camp.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 19, 2009 3:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Gone and foul!

I love Ueck, but we can’t trust any of his fly ball calls can we?

by ecocd on Mar 19, 2009 3:24 PM CDT reply actions  

This game is going on at the perfect time.

Of the four NCAA games going on right now, none are interesting or close.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 19, 2009 3:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, to me that one's just not interesting.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 19, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess I’m biased because one of the teams has a terrapin turtle in their logo

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by TheJay on Mar 19, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's part of the bigger problem with this year's field

Because the tournament committee only let 4 mid majors in with at large bids, there are a lot of games with a bad team from one big conference against a bad team from another big conference, and those bore me. I’d much rather watch a school like St. Mary’s or Creighton play Cal…at least then there’s an off chance one of them could surprise and be a good story.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 19, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Bad" isn't fair

Without getting into the full mid-major vs. power conference debate, it’s not fair saying they’re “bad teams,” they’re just not power teams.

by ecocd on Mar 19, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right, bad was the wrong word.

“Low upside” is the term I wanted.

Take a team like Michigan, for example. We’ve seen them play enough moderate to good teams that we know what they’re capable of. They can be appropriately ranked, categorized and predicted.

But, we don’t know what to expect from a team like Utah State. They’ve won 30 games against a lower level of competition, and it’s possible they have enough upside to win a handful of games and be a great story.

I’d much rather see several 2nd-4th teams from mid-majors who have an unknown potential in the tournament than several of the 6th-8th best teams from power conferences. To me, trying to predict those mid-majors is what makes the tournament fun.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 19, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also

My apologies for derailing a game thread.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 19, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Duffy out with an upset stomach?

I don’t know whether to give him credit for trying to go or make a comment about bailing out with something minor.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 19, 2009 3:50 PM CDT reply actions  

He might never live it down

But that’s worth about a million GRIT points.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 19, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

David Dellucci

It was only a decade ago he led the AL in triples.

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by TheJay on Mar 19, 2009 3:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Rickie Weeks

Run scorer.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 19, 2009 4:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Wheels are coming off for Laffey.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 19, 2009 4:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Gwynn's still on the team?

Who knew?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Mar 19, 2009 4:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Not only that, he didn't add the obligatory "Jr"

So we must have the genuine article at the plate.

by ecocd on Mar 19, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Trying to increase his trade value

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Mar 19, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

The strikeout with the bases loaded

Negates any added value.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 19, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's probably worth less than Gabe Gross was

And all the Brewers got for him was a marginal pitcher…

So yeah, probably waivers.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 19, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll always wonder

assuming TG gets cut, if he ever had trade value.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Mar 19, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

And if he clears...

We lose space in AAA for a developing CF?

by ecocd on Mar 19, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not really

Just shuffle the AAA roster filler around to make room.

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by TheJay on Mar 19, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not really...

Trying to name outfielders who will open in AAA, off the top of my head:

Cain
Gwynn
Nixon (maybe)
Bourgeois (also an infielder)

Who am I missing?

I don’t feel like the Brewers have enough outfielders in AAA to be out of places for Gwynn to play.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 19, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe Nelson

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Mar 19, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

No way Nelson clears waivers.

He’ll be somebody’s fourth outfielder/pinch hitter, just maybe not ours.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 19, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, not Brad Nelson

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Mar 19, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, those guys might clear waivers.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 19, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know

if something ever happened to Gunnar, you’d be left with a half-Nelson.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Mar 19, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I prefer

The one-eighth nelson.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 19, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Il Cartographer!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Mar 19, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Somehow it's fitting that I got to post that

Right before I had to go leave to set up for a show. Enjoy the rest of the game, folks.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 19, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Iribarren (also an infielder)

Brendan Katin

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by TheJay on Mar 19, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gillespie

Should probably be in AAA…had a pretty solid year in AA last year.

by Infield Fly Rule on Mar 20, 2009 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm

When Corey says it’s a “really nice crowd,” what standard is he using? Willingness to stand up when someone in your row arrives late to game and tries to get to his seat? A pack of blind old ladies needing to cross the street?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Mar 19, 2009 4:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Ah.

Good point.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Mar 19, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

First the “gone!…and foul” before, now the “Corey Hart pops it up…and it’s gone!”

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 19, 2009 4:50 PM CDT reply actions  

It's a high sky, y'know

Broadcasters can have trouble reading the ball.

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by TheJay on Mar 19, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

His story about Donald Davidson from 50 years ago

distracted Uecker. Let’s remember how old Ueck is now – and no lasik. Really, I hope this clip from the game somehow gets on ESPN because it was a hoot hearing him trying to recover from the MIS-CALL. Yeah, those milky skies in AZ can be murder, but geez….

by heybatterbatter on Mar 19, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Weird

Michael Brantley, Zach Jackson, and Tony Graffanino all in the game…for the Indians.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Mar 19, 2009 5:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Say

I don’t think we’ve seen LaPorta, did we? Is he still in camp?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Mar 19, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

LaPorta just singled past Gamel

Shoot, we kept the wrong one.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Mar 19, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

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