It's Suppan v. Lincecum to Start the Season

God help us all.

8 months ago Marty McSuperFly 31 comments 0 recs |

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Oh noes! We might lose the first of 162 games!!!

Fire everyone!!!!!!!

by Mykenk on Mar 23, 2009 2:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

You think they're going to lose 162 games?

jeez, man. Try to have some perspective.

by Marty McSuperFly on Mar 23, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eh

Time for all the bandwagon fans to start making a HUGE deal out of this. I would have put Bush there, but does it really matter what order the rotation is over the course of a season?

by tcyoung on Mar 23, 2009 2:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

No

But it’s not really fun to look forward to this opening day game. Unless you’re a big fan of Tim Lincecum.

by Marty McSuperFly on Mar 23, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yup

Not a big deal big picture, but I had planned to take off work at 3 and watch the game. Still will, but its not going to be as fun watching Suppan.

by Supertramp on Mar 23, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, no, but

I mean, this just doesn’t make much sense to me. Generally the number one guy gets the most starts, so why not put your best pitcher there?

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by Lefti on Mar 23, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

More rest and fewer starts would be a good thing for a young pitcher. Young pitchers have shown that they tend to hit a wall after so many innings.. see Manny Parra. However, I don’t think that this is the idea here. If it were, Yovani wouldn’t be starting the 2nd game.

I don’t see why Suppan starting 1 game before Yovani will give him a significantly larger number of starts.

by tcyoung on Mar 24, 2009 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Did you just call us all casuals?

I mean, I realize it’s just one game, but it’s also more than that. It’s the one game everyone looks forward to watching, and it’s a PR message for a season to come. If you’re sending out a pitcher that maybe shouldn’t even make the rotation, I think people have a right to be disappointed.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by KLSnow on Mar 23, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No.

I don’t think anybody has made a big deal out of it. It’s the casuals that will look at it and say, “Macha thinks Suppan is the best pitcher on the team.” I agree that it’s a bad PR move. Hell, I agree it’s a bad move in general, but I don’t think any of us are going to freak out about it or call for his head.

by tcyoung on Mar 24, 2009 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

To me, the message it sends the loudest is...

…. “can you believe the pitching staff their handing me? How the hell am I supposed to get this team back to the playoffs with this mess of a rotation? And don’t get me started on the ’pen.”

Not suggesting that’s what Macha intends, just that it’s the reaction I have to the decision.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 25, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

thats an interesting way to look at it

by tcyoung on Mar 25, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So, it's like a threat to Melvin

“Get me a decent pitching staff or I’m starting Suppan on Opening Day. And I’m going to keep starting him every game until you trade for Grienke.”

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Mar 26, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We’ve got Lincecum’s number anyway.

http://sandbox.baseball-reference.com/play-index/psplit.cgi?n1=linceti01&year=00#oppon-oppon

by Mykenk on Mar 23, 2009 2:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I remember sitting through this game - think it was a Satruday afternoon/nationally televised game.

by Supertramp on Mar 23, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It could be a fun stat game sort of thing

Take some bets ahead of time:

1. Higher number: Lincecum Ks or Giants hits?
2. Higher number: Brewer errors or Suppan Ks?
3. Lower number: Lincecum ERA or Suppan WHIP?

by Marty McSuperFly on Mar 23, 2009 2:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

or maybe it will be a good game

Suppan could pitch well, or well enough to keep it close, and maybe we could grab the lead from their bullpen.

by tcyoung on Mar 23, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think anyone would take that bet

by Marty McSuperFly on Mar 23, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or Aliens will land during the eighth and play musical chairs with Yovani Gallardo, Rickie Weeks and Casey McGehee.

by HRF on Mar 23, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and monkeys could fly out of my butt

and we could all win the lottery, and maybe Witrado could all of a sudden become a pullitzer worthy writer…

all of these things won’t happen. This is a poor decision for Macha to start off with, especially with Suppan’s wonderful start to the year.

I just sit back and root for the taser

by Hyatt on Mar 24, 2009 6:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you're not throwing Gallardo because of some bs about experience, at least put Bush out there or something

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by Jordan M on Mar 23, 2009 3:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I'll take something

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by molitorfan on Mar 23, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But Bush has never started on Opening Day either.

And of course, “has never done it before” means “can’t.”

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by KLSnow on Mar 23, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I, for one, will do a shot for each point of ERA Suppan accumulates.

by HRF on Mar 23, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And if he gives up ER without an out?

by ecocd on Mar 24, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So you're gonna pound shots when he's taken out of the game?

by tcyoung on Mar 24, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, with Rivera set up as Bush's personal catcher...

that would mean Kendall wouldn’t be in the Opening Day squad, and we obviously can’t have that…

by Zeyes on Mar 24, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Silver lining

He won’t start the first game at Miller Park.

What if he gets hurt and the only guy set up to pitch Opening Day is DiFelice?

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by TheJay on Mar 23, 2009 8:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Maybe it's Yosty-Crafty

By “throwing” the first game against one of the best pitchers in the NL, it increases the pitching advantage we have in the rest of the series.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Mar 23, 2009 9:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

If by Yosty-Crafty you mean...

The stats guys showed him how it would work over the season and convinced him to give it a try, but after immediately losing the first series of the season 1-2 to the Giants b/c they faced Lincecum and Cain he immediately scraps the idea stating that “The method obviously doesn’t work in ‘real-life’ baseball, just look at the last series.”

BCB, the preferred above replacement level sarcasm supplier.

by MadJimiBrewha on Mar 23, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually

Yosty-crafty would be to start Suppan Opening Day, and then after a scoreless first inning declare that Suppan is his “first inning guy” for the remainder of the season, after which a reporter will mention it to Bobby Cox, who will chuckle indulgently at his stathead protege.

by Marty McSuperFly on Mar 23, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

or starting suppan the first game to make him a better friend.

by tcyoung on Mar 24, 2009 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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