BREAKING FANTASY/MLB NEWS: A-Rod out 10 Weeks

by Hyatt on Mar 5, 2009 11:22 AM CST

According to his brother, Arod will be out for the next 10 weeks. This hurts early drafting teams, like Dizikembe, but it raises an interesting fantasy issue. How much to a team is 15 weeks of A-Rod worth? Just by simple projections, I'd say about 60 Runs, 20 homers, 60 RBIs, 12 SB with a .290 ave. This production is about what Edwin Encarnacion will put up (more RBIs and R though) throughout the entire year. However, this knocks A-Rod's value down to where he's going to be a 2nd or 3rd round steal and produce 4 months of 1st round quality play.

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Bill Hall for Melky Cabrera?

some money would have to go with Billy, but that was my first thought…

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Mar 5, 2009 1:24 PM CST reply actions

What if

They put 8 players out there and let Jeter play the entire left side.

by tcyoung on Mar 5, 2009 2:13 PM CST up reply actions

Sabathia at 3B

(even during games he’s pitching in)

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Mar 5, 2009 2:53 PM CST up reply actions

Jeter would get really dirty, and the leftfielder would chase down even more ground-ball singles than he does already.

(maybe they need to hold on to Melky, as one of the few remaining mobile OFs they have.)

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Mar 5, 2009 2:59 PM CST up reply actions

What are you talking about…Jeter’s a gold glover. I’m sure his awesome range would allow him to handle it like a pro.

BCB, the preferred above replacement level sarcasm supplier.

by MadJimiBrewha on Mar 5, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions

If he would only ditch that gold glove and play with a leather one like everybody else…

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Mar 5, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions

What page of Jeff Sackman's book of jokes can we find that on?

by tcyoung on Mar 5, 2009 5:12 PM CST up reply actions

Page 330

In the Uncomfortable Double Entendres chapter.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Mar 5, 2009 5:31 PM CST up reply actions

It's a long chapter

but I like it that way.

(See also: Self-referential “humor,” pp.579-612.)

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Mar 5, 2009 6:28 PM CST up reply actions

Interesting thought

In my keeper league, I have Sizemore, Johan Santana, Hamilton, Markakis, Phillips, Lackey, and Billingsley. I can only keep 6, and we’re allowed to make pre-draft trades. My league only uses 3 OF, so I’m set there right now assuming the one left out of the list above is Billingsley or Lackey, but since OF is so deep I was trying to trade one of them for A-Rod.

I think I could get him for Hamilton and Lackey, especially now that A-Rod will be out. Although it’s a lot of value for A-Rod, one of Lackey/Billingsley has zero value to me unless I trade them, because I can only keep one anyways. In addition, I play in a H2H league, so I really need the production down the stretch, which A-Rod would provide. Plus, I’d be able to keep A-Rod next year, assuming he doesn’t fall off a cliff.

Ultimately, I feel that having my OF set while not having a 3B/SS/1B/C going into the draft is a disadvantage, and I feel I can find a productive OF later than a productive 3B. By trading A-Rod, I’d give myself a more balanced team Pre-Draft. Essentially it’d be Johan, Sizemore, Phillips, Markakis, Billingsley, and injured A-Rod vs Johan, Sizemore, Phillips, Markakis, Hamilton, Billingsley/Lackey. Thoughts?

by marty22 on Mar 5, 2009 2:41 PM CST reply actions

I'd hold on to Hamilton

but seing if I can get a deal done for A-rod would be to your advantage. Lackey and Hamilton may be overpaying for him, so see what can be done.

I just sit back and root for the taser

by Hyatt on Mar 5, 2009 2:49 PM CST up reply actions

isn’t it basically hamilton for A-Rod straight up because if I keep Billingsley, I lose Lackey for nothing anyways?

by marty22 on Mar 5, 2009 2:59 PM CST up reply actions

unless of course

i could use lackey in another trade, but I don’t anticipate that.

by marty22 on Mar 5, 2009 2:59 PM CST up reply actions

haha

nevermind…someone just traded Howard and Mauer for A-Rod

by marty22 on Mar 5, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions

Wow

talk about giving up way too much. Geez… that is a deal I would almost throw out a veto for.

I just sit back and root for the taser

by Hyatt on Mar 5, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions

what about this, Hyatt?

thanks for helping, by the way.

What about trading Hamilton for Kinsler, and then Phillips for Aramis Ramirez and a 9/10th round draft pick? I know you’re a Phillips fan, and I am too, but I don’t trust his average, and in my league we count OPS, so his lack of OBP skills really hurt here. Thoughts?

by marty22 on Mar 6, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions

I think you're losing too much

Yes, Kinsler overall is an upgrade over phillips, but when’s the last time Ramirez hit 40? or even 30? If you are looking to upgrade power, look to 1B.

Getting Kinsler for Hamilton is definitely something I’d do. But I’d say something else for Phillips. See if you can swing something 2 for 1. Like Phillips and Lackey for a top flight 1B

I just sit back and root for the taser

by Hyatt on Mar 6, 2009 5:27 PM CST up reply actions

thanks again

i’ll look at it…it’s not really that I’m looking to upgrade power, the A-Ram move would be to re-gain what I lose by trading Hamilton. Also, there are very few 3B left after the keepers have been selected, while there are some 1B. That was the idea behind getting A-Ram. I do like phillips, but if I have kinsler, then it doesn’t make much sense to carry two 2B, and his OPS is about 70-80 points below the mark I’m aiming for, based on last year’s results.

by marty22 on Mar 6, 2009 6:26 PM CST up reply actions

i forgot to say

I think phillips is overvalued in my league, because of the inclusion of OPS, which people don’t really account for. most people just look at standard 5×5 rankings…

by marty22 on Mar 6, 2009 6:27 PM CST up reply actions

Suddenly Selig?

I am not surprised. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but the sudden nature of this post-apocalyptic press event injury smells like a compromise between one A-Selig and A-Rod.

by One-Flap Down on Mar 5, 2009 2:59 PM CST reply actions

huh

A-Rod needs surgery.

Wouldn’t it be nice if there was like this magical creme or injection he could get to speed up the recovery process. Maybe he should look into that.

"....si si Peeeeedro"

by trippingandy on Mar 5, 2009 3:36 PM CST reply actions 1 recs

4 months now?

now it’s a labrum tear?

"Heywood leads the league in most offensive categories, including nose hair. When this guy sneezes, he looks like a party favor." - Harry Doyle

by SAE on Mar 5, 2009 3:45 PM CST reply actions

That suck

Good thing I haven’t participated in any fantasy drafts yet.

BCB, the preferred above replacement level sarcasm supplier.

by MadJimiBrewha on Mar 5, 2009 4:12 PM CST up reply actions

yeah

a “Labrum Tear” otherwise known as Selig’s convenient excuse… oops, sorry, just the conspiracy theorist jumping out… it is about 100 games…

I just sit back and root for the taser

by Hyatt on Mar 5, 2009 4:48 PM CST up reply actions

suspension

when they first said 10 weeks my first thought was 50 game suspension

apparently bud had second thoughts and changed it to 100

"Heywood leads the league in most offensive categories, including nose hair. When this guy sneezes, he looks like a party favor." - Harry Doyle

by SAE on Mar 5, 2009 6:14 PM CST up reply actions

Bud Selig is no David Stern

Vegas is in a class unto-itself, it's really not a "city", more a wonderland of awesomeness.

-Zeke

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Mar 5, 2009 6:48 PM CST up reply actions

by Noah Jarosh on Mar 5, 2009 7:46 PM CST reply actions

Careful

don’t use jeebus and defecation in the same phrase

Vegas is in a class unto-itself, it's really not a "city", more a wonderland of awesomeness.

-Zeke

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Mar 5, 2009 8:02 PM CST up reply actions

ARods Fantasy Value...

He certainly is worth no more than a 5th-6th rounder at best… But some fools will take him 1st or 2nd round… That fool will NOT be me.

Parking Lot Pimpin'

by CATALYST on Mar 6, 2009 12:30 PM CST reply actions

and that was before he went out for 4 months

I just sit back and root for the taser

by Hyatt on Mar 6, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions

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