Brew Crew Ball: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Sports blogs for fans, by fans.
New Blog: The Boxing Bulletin for Boxing Fans!

Manny Parra Should Not Throw More Fastballs

A link in Thursday's Mug led me to this story at The Junkball Blues. The basic point is that Manny Parra throws his fastball fewer times than almost all other hard-throwing left-handed starting pitchers. Manny Parra also had a good strikeout rate and a worse-than-average walk rate last year. Logically, it would seem that if Parra threw his fastball more than the about 56% of the time he did last year, his walk rate might go down and he might become a better overall pitcher.

I must credit Lookout Landing with getting me thinking more about fastballs and pitch selection. This post outlines how Felix Hernandez's fastball was overused in 2008, and this one suggests that Hernandez not only was a better pitcher when he threw fewer fastballs, but his off-speed pitches were more effective when mixed with about 55% of fastballs-- differing from convential wisdom, which says that establishing a fastball helps off-speed pitches. 

I do not have the capability to split up Parra's starts the way Lookout Landing did, but I can look into his pitches using Josh Kalk's (dixieflatline) Pitch f/x tool. It has done some strange things in the past, so take everything I say here with a disclaimer. I am pretty confident in the results for Parra, however-- I have cross-checked some things with Fangraphs and Stat-Corner, and things seem to match up.

I assume the corrections used on Parra's player card at Josh's site are not used in the tool, so I did two things with the data. First, the tool separates fastballs into "fastballs" and what the algorithim calls a "splitter". Both average velocities are around 92. I combined the two pitches into "fastball", together these two pitches were thrown about 56% of the time, which matches up with Fangraphs and Parra's player card. I combined the actual splitter and changeup into a category; though the pitches are different they have similar movement and velocity, and as I said I am generalizing here. So the pitches are separated into three categories: fastballs, changes/splitters, and curves.

So should Parra throw his fastball more? Let us move on to some data. Here are the three categories of pitches. Check out the data and see if you draw the same conclusions I do. Please consider my disclaimer about the Pitch f/x tool and the sample of only 1 year.  Click for a larger version.

Parrapitches_medium

It would be helpful to provide some context for these numbers. Research from Lookout Landing reveals that the league average is about a 5.3% swing and miss percentage on fastballs. Parra's fastball is good, and he seems to get a lot of groundballs from using it, but batters are able to make contact with it. Compare Parra's fastball with the top lefty in terms of fastballs thrown percentage on the Junkball Blues list, Jonathan Sanchez. He threw his fastball 72% of the time in 2008, and got away with it because he was fifth in the league by drawing swinging strikes 9.1% of the time he threw it.  

The other data in the chart should be considered, too. The strike rate is the amount of total pitches of that type that went for strikes, including foul balls, outs in play, and hits-- so really it is the ((total pitches- called balls)/total pitches). The fastball was a strike more often than the other two, but not by as significant of a margin as you might expect. The next column is the percentage of swings that missed a pitch-- so this excludes all balls. When a batter decided to swing at a fastball, they made contact about 90% of the time, when they decided to swing at a curve, they only mad e contact about 75% of the time.

The last column is simply the total hits off of a type of pitch divided by the total pitches of that type thrown. Manny threw 1591 fastballs last year and gave up 116 hits off of that pitch. That was the highest percentage of hits against any of the three types of pitches.

So, to review, Parra's fastball gets put in play much more than his other pitches, is just a bit more likely to be a strike than the other two pitches, and last year went for a hit more often than his other two pitches. If you looked at the chart without any preconceived notions, you would probably reccomend that Parra throw his split/change and curve much more often. Of course, baseball does not work that way-- a pitcher has to establish his fastball before being able to trick batters into swinging at breaking pitches.

I think Parra's balance of about 55%-45% fastball:offspeed pitch ratio is quite good right now, and I see little evidence to prove that throwing his fastball more would result in fewer walks (and it could well result in fewer strikeouts and more hits, things we definitely do not want).

Parra is a good pitcher already who could develop into an excellent one if he improves his command to the 2-3 BB/9 he averaged in the minor leagues. But I do not think throwing his fastball more would help this process, based on the data available right now.

Resources: Pitch F/X tool query, so you can see for yourself the data I am working with.

0 recs  |  Comment 2 comments |

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

Display:

Nice work again...

They are two very top tier breaking balls, both on accuracy and swinging strike %. Surprising on the curveball (in terms of accuracy at least) as I would have thought the fact that he throws with such heavy break..

by Braun Holio on Mar 7, 2009 8:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I was surprised too

You’d think the fastball would be much more likely to be thrown for a strike. If he can increase the control of the fastball without throwing it more than he does, I’d think he would improve.

The artist formerly known as jihad.

by Jordan M on Mar 8, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Brew Crew Ball is dedicated to providing a friendly atmosphere for intelligent Brewer conversation. Click here to view our Posting Guide and Community Guidelines.
Start posting about the Brewers »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

U8xcikxxuei8lvi_small
Rumorville: John Halama?
U8xcikxxuei8lvi_small
Rumorville: Todd Wellemeyer?
U8xcikxxuei8lvi_small
Rumorville: Derek Lowe/Corey Hart
Nohuddleblueew9_small
Question regarding revenue sharing
Small
All in on Low Risk/High Reward Guys
Box_small
Question: Rule 5 Draft Protection
Newavatar_small
Speculationville: Edwin Jackson/Curtis Granderson
U8xcikxxuei8lvi_small
Rumorville: Kelly Shoppach
U8xcikxxuei8lvi_small
Rumorville: John Lackey
U8xcikxxuei8lvi_small
Braden Looper Watch (update 1)

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

Featured Poll

Poll
Who won the J.J. Hardy/Carlos Gomez trade?
The Brewers
107 votes
The Twins
285 votes
It's a tie.
142 votes

534 votes | Poll has closed

79 - 82

11

Won 3

1

NL Central Standings

W L PCT GB STRK
St. Louis 91 71 .561 0 Lost 6
Chicago 83 78 .515 7.5 Lost 1
Milwaukee 80 82 .493 11 Won 3
Cincinnati 78 84 .481 13 Won 2
Houston 74 88 .456 17 Lost 3
Pittsburgh 62 99 .385 28.5 Lost 2

(updated 11.22.2009 at 4:31 AM CST)

FanShots

Quick hits of video, photos, quotes, chats, links and lists that you find around the web.

Recent FanShots

Infielder Adam Heether...returned home from the Venezuelan Winter League...
Anyone ever notice this? -- Did they make a corrected card? I am pretty sure there is a conspiracy behind this.
Authentic Jersey. I was wondering if it would be worth it to get a Fielder...
Brewers discussed Corey Hart for Derek Lowe
Mystery three-way trade team?
Keith Law's take on the Brewer's plans (he's not a fan)
Got this in the mail today from my Season Ticket Account Exec.

"Tim -
I wanted to thank you for renewing again this year.  Your continued support is very important & much appreciated.  Keep in touch and let me know if you need anything else.

Go Brewers!
Chris

P.S. If you know anybody else interested in a ticket plan, please let me know."
Washburn's Interested in the Brewers.
Milwaukees First All-Black Baseball Team
Autographs through the Mail: Jonathan Lucroy

Sent:11/5/09

Received:11/16/09

+ New FanShot All FanShots >


Moderators

U8xcikxxuei8lvi_small roguejim

Mordecai_brown_small Jeff Sackmann

Newavatar_small KLSnow

Box_small TheJay

Communist_party_small Jordan M

Contributors

Dsci0355_small kirbir

Picture_069_small tristarscoop

Dsc01174_small BrewHaHeather

Rubie_edited-1_small Rubie Q

Hikaru_50_small morineko

X1pxoywqu4sjf73f7drxq2lmqys7mzsyx7pa9necepiffk_ewcuwmuazb-o17ukmbriclcdkn4lk-4xposaawiq4j8hzdsccpjwatqpz2o2p-i0nnqjlyt7pmytaycsaknszvaktpshtcu9sjle1qchlw_1__small NoahJ

Hulk_buddy-icon_small Fatter than Joey