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Is Jeff Suppan a Lost Cause?

In his two starts this year, Jeff Suppan has thrown 67 fastballs. Before reading ahead, do you care to take a guess as to how many times hitters have swung and missed those fastballs? Keep in mind that the league average whiff rate on a fastball is only about 6%, with a very good pitcher inducing swings and misses on about 10-12% of fastballs.

The answer to the question? It is zero. Every time a batter has decided to swing at a Jeff Suppan fastball, they have made contact with it. Even batters who played for the Giants. Batters have swung and missed 8 Jeff Suppan pitches this year-- a curveball, 3 sliders, and 4 changeups.

In his opening day start, Suppan averaged 86.93 miles per hour with his fastball. In Sunday's game, he averaged 87.21 miles per hour. Unsurprisingly, that is right in line with his last two years, his average was below 87 last season, and has been steadily decreasing since this speed data became available in 2002 (he averaged 89.6 mph with the Royals that year).

The break on the fastballs is nothing special anymore, either, and it is quite inconsistent. In these two games, we saw an average horizontal break of 8 inches toward a right-handed hiter and an average vertical break of 8 inches. I wish I had access to data from previous seasons, because it would be interesting to know what Suppan's break was like during the days of his prime-- even if they were propped up by great defenses, he still had some skills.

The general trend for Suppan in his first two years with the Brewers appeared to be of consistent, expected decline. He struck out fewer batters in each of the past two years and began walking more. As sad as the premise seems, we hoped to avoid total catastrophe and Suppan becoming totally unusable. I am not ready to declare that as of now, but his stuff is deteriorating to the point that he is going to have to rely exclusively on good control to stay above replacement level. And as we have seen so far this season, things are not looking good on the walk prevention front.

In total, Suppan's 8 swings and misses out of 140 total pitches is a 5.7% swinging strike rate. That is not good. Suppan no longer has the stuff to get by as a starter that is above replacement level while walking batters at a rate worse than the league average.

At this point, Suppan needs to get back to a 5:3 strikeout to walk ratio-caliber pitcher. If he is unable to do so, there are several options that are better than him. One of his advantages is his durability, and in the past, his control and stuff were better than replacement pitchers like DiFelice, Green, or Wright by a large enough margin that it made sense to continue to use him even when he was working through struggles. But now, we have a pitcher with stuff that does not induce swings and misses, and his control has been dreadful.

Now we introduce the alternative. Mark DiFelice's average fastball in 2008 was thrown harder than Jeff Suppan's in 2008 or 2009. Mark DiFelice is also capable of striking people out, not walking 3 batters with the bases loaded, and has yet to, in his career, give up 7 runs in 1 inning.

I am all for giving Suppan some time to work out his issues and see if he can regain his usual control. But at what point do you realize that Suppan carries no advantages over DiFelice or McClung? DiFelice, in the starting rotation, would predictably strike out more batters, walk fewer, and his stuff is not noticeably worse than Suppan's at this point (and it might well be better)-- which in general implies that he is not more "hittable" than Suppan. Is the advantage durability and stamina? What good do those do when Suppan has to be taken out after an average of 70 pitches due to pitching poorly? It has been pointed out that a starter who can pitch 170 innings with a 5 ERA talent has some value, and that is true, but if there are three other pitchers available who are capable of a sub-5 ERA talent, that value is almost entirely diminished by the abundance of the other type of pitcher-- if one gets hurt or becomes ineffective, the team can plug in another. That value comes in when the replacement pitchers are the freely available kind that put up 5.50 ERAs. The Brewers are not in this situation, having stockpiled DiFelice, Green, and McClung (Capuano and Wright could also enter into this group of pitchers).

DiFelice's cutter/slider has been dissected by Josh and other analysts before, so I will not get into it too much. It is around 81-82 miles per hour, and it averaged 81.8 in his appearance in last night's game. His hardest pitch of the night was 82.4 miles per hour. The only other pitch he threw last night was a changeup, and those two pitches were split almost 50/50. Mark is also capable of throwing a high-80s fastball, even if he does not feel the need to use it very often. He has used a curveball in the past, as well, though I do not see one in his data from last night. I would expect him to break out the full repitoire if he were to be used as a starter.

The point of the look at DiFelice is to illustrate that Suppan no longer has an advantage, as a pitcher, over DiFelice or other pitchers in stuff, as in break, movement, and velocity. If both showed up to try out for a baseball team today, a coach would start DiFelice-- the guy with the 87 mph fastball and the good cutter and change over Suppan, the guy with about 86, a decent curve and slider and not a whole lot of control. Think about it this way-- if Suppan suddenly learned to walk less than 2 per 9 and strike out more than 6 per nine, we would have a similar pitcher to Mark DiFelice. The only real difference right now in their repitoires is that Suppan throws his curveball and fastball more often than DiFelice does. DiFelice's stellar cutter/slider probably makes up for the difference.

I sometimes think there is this invisible tiering of starting pitchers-- the guys that throw really hard, the guys that throw hard, and the guys that throw normally. I usually put pitchers like Sabathia and Sheets in the top tier, Gallardo and Parra in the second tier, and then bunch pitchers like Bush, Looper, and Suppan in the last tier. That is no longer the case, Suppan has now fallen to a level well below even Bush and Looper, and those 2-3 miles per hour actually can have a very big impact on hittability, especially when Suppan has little control.

Suppan needs to get his control under control, and if he does not, the Brewers need to seriously consider inserting DiFelice into the rotation while Suppan attempts to remember how to throw strikes. I have not mentioned McClung much in this post, but he is capable as well. Suppan does have some value if he is able to regain his ability to throw strikes and basically reinvents himself as a pitcher, but he is going to have to become a pinpoint control man who walks almost nobody to stay in the rotation for the next two years of his contract. I am hesitant to draw too many conclusions from 2 games, but the trends are disturbing enough to continue looking at this issue and beginning to make plans for what will happen if he is unable to begin throwing strikes again.

If Suppan gets back his normal control and drops his BB/9 below 3 throughout the rest of the season, it would be a fine solution to keep him in the rotation, he would not be hurting the team. But if these control issues continue, the team needs to go into crisis management mode, and attempt to keep Suppan from hurting the team by throwing innings in which replacement pitchers would be a much better option. If Doug Melvin is on the same page as me here, I would think he will consider sending DiFelice down to AAA to stretch out while Suppan gets about 2 more starts to prove he has his control back. If he continues to walk batters, a temporary move to the bullpen or the disabled list might be the best course of action.

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I keep reading that second paragraph saying, “wow.”

I knew he’s been off, more than usual, but that stat raises an eyebrow. As far as I know, not too many people will be successful with fastballs that can’t nip at the 90 mark. Even with those pitches, they’ll have excessive off speed stuff to complement and work off the fastball. Soup, hasn’t really had that going. He’s had a nasty curve, here or there, but he certainly isn’t fooling anyone pitch for pitch.

Great stuff Jordan!

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by Lavender on Apr 14, 2009 1:10 PM CDT reply actions  

If anything, I think you're underselling DiFelice...

…with respect to peripherals. Under 2 BB/9 is about right, but DiFelice has posted K/9 rates as a starter in the minors the last two years that translated to 7.5 K/9 MLE, and he’s actually been above 9 K/9 as a RP in the majors. Heaven knows how he’s doing it with those pitches, but he somehow misses a ton of bats.

Of course, HR suppression would likely be DiFelice’s bugaboo (high FB rate), and since Suppan at least gets more GB than FB, it is probably true that Suppan would be about as good as DiFelice if he could get near 6 K/9.

Thing is, he can’t. In addition to the fact that nobody’s swung through a Soup fastball this year, I’m also alarmed that, per fangraphs, nobody’s swung through any pitch in the strike zone.

by Br@wndo on Apr 14, 2009 1:17 PM CDT reply actions  

I tend to argue a conservative point rather than try to oversell something

But i think Mark D could be a 7/2 guy, which is awesome.

Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.

by Jordan M on Apr 14, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

On the upside...

Arguably, the tendency to give up the longball might be less of a problem if DiFelice moved into the rotation. Much like Sheets wasn’t hurt much by the semi-regular early inning homer (or also Bush in his extreme establish-the-fastball phases) because it would often come with nobody on, DiFelice might well have the same going for him. As a reliever that’s much more of an issue, either because you’re entrusted a narrow lead or because you’re already entering with runners on.

by Zeyes on Apr 14, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Swinging Strike Rate

Suppan’s always been a contact pitcher. Has his swinging strike rate declined over the years, or is 5.7% what it’s always been?

by tcyoung on Apr 14, 2009 1:30 PM CDT reply actions  

I had forgotten that StatCorner tracked it. Right here. As you can see it has gone down.

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by Jordan M on Apr 14, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh wow.

It’s really dropped off the last two years. I really hope he can get his control back. Even though his swinging strike ration fell last year, his called strike rate stayed around 17%. All I’m expecting from Suppan is a .500 record.

I will say, one matchup I really liked on Sunday was Suppan vs. Lee in a double play situation.

by tcyoung on Apr 14, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Excellent analysis

This is the kind of stuff BP or THT would write, not to mention the hometown daily newspaper.

Good work!

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by nmc on Apr 14, 2009 2:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Probably worth a submission in the BP contest

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by Hyatt on Apr 14, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seconded.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Apr 14, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

To heighten your chances

make first references to pitchers include first and last names and possibly have links to baseball-reference.

One issue I have with the analysis: we’ve never seen what DiFelice will do in full-game situations. Obviously we won’t know until we see it, but how easily can we convert his minor league stats into major league start ability (ie comparing minor league ERA or even WHIP to major league ERA and WHIP). Would Jeff’s tools help out with that? How quickly will his velocity and break drop off over multiple innings? I don’t think pitchFX is available in minor league parks yet though;)

He’s definitely worth a shot, but I wouldn’t mind seeing McClung get another shot first. We know how he did last season.

by PagsBrewCrew on Apr 14, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is probably not ok

I’d use my subscriber vote on this article, without having seen the other submissions.

by Marty McSuperFly on Apr 14, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

I checked the words, and it’s actually 1444— so about perfect. I wonder if they’d consider a 17-year old, though. I can give it a shot, I guess. There are a hell of a lot of good writers submitting to that, though.

Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.

by Jordan M on Apr 14, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

They said the only requirement is eligibility to accept the prize.

And you should still be eligible.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Apr 14, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Curious about how they worded that

I’m guessing they just mean you have to have the time to write a column per week. It almost reads like there are amateurs and professional and eligibility or something.

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by Jordan M on Apr 14, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, you should really think about that

if you accept the prize, you might have to sit out a year in college before you can write for the school newspaper.

heh.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 14, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not planning on winning :)

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by Jordan M on Apr 14, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

the Brewers spirit

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by molitorfan on Apr 15, 2009 7:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Reading the headline, I can't help but wonder

Would a certain TV show take him off our hands? A vortex of suck could provide enough mystery for at least half a season…

by Zeyes on Apr 14, 2009 3:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Great article

It is this sort of article that helps me understand not just what is happening but why.
I can see that Suppan is struggling with his control but I was not aware of how bad his fastball had got and how it compares to the obvious replacement for him.
Thanks for the excellent work Jordan.

by Saltire on Apr 14, 2009 3:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Look at 2004 – 2006 and you see a different pitcher:

44 wins 26 losses. A nice 3.95 ERA.

My first thought was that Suppan broke when he moved to Milwaukee and that it was a combination of one of the following: Pitching coach, defense, park, etc.

But if you compare his 2007 season with the previous 3 seasons, it was pretty much in line with what you would expect. His Fielding Independent Pitching ERA was 4.42 following 4.77, 4.53, and 4.70 meaning when you take out the above thoughts, he might have been better in Milwaukee than in STL.

In fact all of his peripherals looked fine in 2007 or at least pretty consistent with the previous 3 years in St.Louis.

Even in 2008 his numbers looked consistently mediocre. The one number that really jumps out is the home runs. He went from 18 to 30 from 2007 to 2008. Since he averaged about 23 HR per year in St. Louis, its possible that he will be in that range this year.

The middle of 2008 seems to be where everything broke. 9 home runs in April, May, June and then 21 in July, August, September, October. Even in August of last year when he went 5-0 with a 3.00 ERA, the problems were there. He gave up 8 home runs in those 5 games, but was bailed out by a .214 babip.

I think if he keeps the ball in the park, he can still be that #5 starter, but its possible that he just hit the wall. Either way – 2 starts into this season is too early to pull the plug.

by grant76 on Apr 14, 2009 4:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Hmm...

Maybe the increased gopher balls are what prompted the control problems of the first two starts? His walk rate didn’t increase appreciably in the second half last year even as the HR rate shot up – perhaps he came into this year with the plan to nibble more, and he either isn’t hitting his spots at all or he’s crossed some baseball event horizon where there’s just no strike zone left to nibble towards…

by Zeyes on Apr 14, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

IIRC his flyball rate stayed the same too. It was his HR/F that doubled. I wonder if he is tipping his pitches?

by grant76 on Apr 14, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's why I'm so concerned about the control issues

If you look at the peripherals, yes, they have been in a steady decline in the last two seasons. We expected that. But if these control problems are something new, then it all goes bad.

His stuff has been deteriorating, and his k rates have gone down and walk rates up. His stuff and skillset suggest a 5ish ERA, but if he keeps walking people, the wheels are going to come off fast.

Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.

by Jordan M on Apr 14, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

On a completely different note

I’m leaving for the park (from Madison) in a few minutes. Can anybody tell me where the dollar concession stand is? I got the munchies, and I lost my vouchers so i have to buy at the gate…

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by No Huddle Offense on Apr 14, 2009 4:44 PM CDT reply actions  

good stuff man

the truth hurts

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by trippingandy on Apr 14, 2009 4:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Shoutout

As noted in Lefti’s FanShot, Jordan’s excellent writeup here was linked to and deemed “excellent” by Adam McCalvy.

jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner

by battlekow on Apr 14, 2009 6:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Is Jeff Suppan a Lost Cause?

by HRF on Apr 14, 2009 8:08 PM CDT reply actions  

What a problematic title

You know I had it scheduled last night as “Is there hope for Jeff Suppan?” Probably should have stuck with that.

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by Jordan M on Apr 14, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

The title selected was the best title.

by HRF on Apr 14, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, it took 1 day for Rambling Al to call me a casual, and even then it wasn't direct.

Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.

by Jordan M on Apr 14, 2009 10:36 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't understand this
It’s hard to imagine him having success as teams load up with 6-7 LH bats as a SP…let’s hope I’m not the only one who sees this.

6-7?

jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner

by battlekow on Apr 14, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Leaving the question about how many teams could load a lineup like that unanswered

It’d be a shame to boot a guy with a .307/.373/.472 line to lefties over the last three years from the rotation just to give DiFelice a shot.

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by TheJay on Apr 15, 2009 5:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Also,

DiFelice’s splits were fine in the minors. It’s just a few batters in the majors that have crushed him, like Ortiz.

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by Jordan M on Apr 15, 2009 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

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