Is R.J. Swindle For Real?
Every bit of skepticism you've heard about Mark DiFelice, it goes just as much for R.J. Swindle. He's gotten great results in the minors, but he doesn't throw hard and he's the kind of guy scouts don't look twice at. I mean, his curveball is clocked in the 50's. He got a cup of coffee with the Phillies last year, but I hope we'll see more of him with the 2009 Brewers, starting this weekend.
He's kind of like Chad Bradford, another guy without typical "stuff," but who has gotten guys out everywhere he goes. Counting indy league performances, he's struck out more than a batter per inning in his career.
But, the skeptics always say, that kind of thing won't translate to THE SHOW. (I don't mean to dump on the skeptics here--I mean, the guy throws a 55mph curveball. I'm skeptical too.)
So let's see if we can find some grounds for skepticism in the numbers. Most of his minor league stats aren't very valuable when it comes to predicting major league performance. Last year was the first time he threw any meaningful number of innings even in Triple-A.
To keep things simple, I'm going to focus on his strikeout rate. That's usually a good indicator of success for relievers, and Swindle has always had solid control. Plus, as you'll see in a moment, there's plenty to keep us busy with just one stat.
In 36.7 innings at Triple-A Lehigh Valley last year, Swindle struck out 51 guys. That's 12.5 per 9, and that, my friends, is ridiculous. Here's how it breaks down by handedness:
- vLHB: 28 K's, 57 BF (49.1%)
- vRHB: 23 K's, 88 BF (26.1%)
Obviously he's better against lefties, but keep in mind that the MLB average is well under 20%. At least at Triple-A, his stuff is plenty good, however fast he throws it.
Translating
Usually when we want to use minor league numbers in a major league context, we use Minor League Equivalency (MLE) stats. Swindle's MLE K rates are still ridiculous:
- vLHB: 23 K's, 57 BF (40.1%)
- vRHB: 19 K's, 88 BF (21.6%)
That's not that big a difference, and here the skepticism kicks in once again. I won't go over all the arguments against MLEs here, but I think our intuition is howling about one thing in particular: He was probably feasting on minor league journeyman. You know, the types of guys who are in Triple-A precisely *because* they can't take advantage of something throwing the crap he throws.
The reputation of Triple-A, of course, fits right into that. For every Gamel or Escobar, there's a Chris Woodward, Abraham Nunez, or (dare I say it) Tony Gwynn Jr. So maybe those numbers won't translate.
One K at a time
I've been kicking around an alternative MLE method for some time now, but I haven't done anything with it. (Partly because, as I discovered tonight, it's enormously work-intensive.) Since we're interested in how Swindle will perform against Major League hitters, why don't we look at how Swindle performed against--wait for it, folks--major league hitters?
Since he only spent a brief time with Philly last year, let me explain. Let's say, one night last year Swindle pitched a 1-2-3 inning against Nashville, striking out Joe Dillon, Russell Branyan, and Chris Woodward. Woodward is organizational fodder. Dillon and Branyan, though--Swindle could've faced them in Milwaukee.
If we look only at Swindle's matchups against guys who appeared in the bigs last year, that cuts down our sample from 145 BF to 64 BF. That isn't much to go on--under 20 innings, now--but check out the results:
- vLHB: 16 K's, 36 BF (49.4%)
- vRHB: 11 K's 28 BF (39.3%)
So against guys who saw time on big league rosters, Swindle did better.
Adjustments
We still aren't really done. It's impressive that Swindle struck out nearly half the "major league" hitters he saw in Triple-A last year, but it doesn't exactly mean he'll do the same for Milwaukee.
The obvious problem is that guys who spend time in Triple-A aren't a very good sample of Major League hitters. Sure, there's the occasional Ryan Braun on his way to the bigs, but mostly it's Joe Dillons and Tony Gwynns.
To consider that, I looked at how those 64 batters did in their MLB time. While the average MLB hitter struck out in 17.5% of his plate appearances last year, Swindle's opponents K'd 22.1% of the time. Definitely a step down from league average, as we'd expect, but not so much to take all the shine off of RJ's performance.
Do some fancy math, and it turns out that this sample suggests that Swindle's MLB K rate would be 33.4%. By contrast, the Brewers bullpen last year managed just 18.8% and no individual reliever topped 25%.
Of course, no amount of number crunching can fully do away with the natural skepticism. Maybe Swindle will strike out every third batter he faces, and the other two will hit laser-like doubles off the wall. I don't know. But to me, this is another reason for optimism. Giving Swindle and DiFelice lots of innings may or may not help the Brewers make the postseason, but it will certainly help us answer some questions about the "stuff" it takes to make it in today's major leagues.
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When can we see him?
I think I read in an earlier thread that he threw 3 innings Wednesday and probably wouldn’t be available to go Friday. We’re still likely to get an inning or three out of him this weekend, right?
I have been a huge RJ fan since we signed him
However, Did you do any ERA comparisons like you did the strikeout rate? Similar to what you said, my skepticism comes from the idea that he could strikeout 2 batters and give up a homer to the third. Yeah, the 55mph curve is tough to hit, but it has to be set up with a meatball 80 mph fastball. I just hope he can locate the 80 mph fastball in a way that nobody can put it over the fence.
ERA is next to impossible to do when you break it down batter-by-batter
As for home runs, there’s not much data to work with. In his 36 triple-A innings last year, he gave up exactly one home run. It was to Jeff Bailey, a quad-A vet, kind of a poor man’s Branyan. Bailey hit 25 HRs in 418 ABs, so he’s a major power threat no matter who’s on the mound.
He did give up 2 HRs in the 24 batters he faced in the bigs last year. They were to David Wright and Mark Reynolds—both righties (Bailey’s also RH), both guys with pretty serious power, and both in Citizens Bank.
Intuitively, it’s definitely a concern. But the flip side is that, if he’s not topping 80 mph, the batter has to generate more of the power. It can certainly be done, but it’s not as easy as cranking out an 88mph Suppan fastball.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 17, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Christ, I wish Suppan threw 88.
His average fastball hasn’t been 88 since 2005.
jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner
but he does occasionally
manage a straight 88 mph fastball, and those may be the easiest ones to crank out of the park.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 17, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Knuckleballer?
All of these comments seem similar to what one could say about a knuckleballer (minus the 80 mph fastball). Make one mistake and the knuckleball doesn’t knuckle and it’s going to get driven and yet, Wakefield continues to be effective at the highest level.
Swindle!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Slightly off subject
So who is the LOOGY? And can either of these guys get righties out? Stetter has a 1: SO/BB ratio against righties but has an absurdly low .182 BABIP
Swindle's been dominant against everybody in the minors
but I have to imagine that Macha won’t be eager to give Swindle a lot of chances against righties until he gets more comfortable in the bigs.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 17, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Even if he flops,
it would be very difficult to argue giving him a rather long leash wasn’t a good idea. I’ll be pulling for RJ, and can’t wait to see the 50 mph curve!
Great baseball name
Does anyone agree that RJ Swindle is one of the great all-time baseball names?? This headshot also makes me think he could pass for a bouncer at The Bada Bing.

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