Game Thread #11: Brewers (3-7) at Mets (5-5)
by Kyle Lobner on Apr 18, 2009 11:00 AM CDT
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If you're anything like me, Saturday's 12:10 start is coming pretty early after a long night last night.
With that said, it's Yovani Gallardo (1-1) v. Johan Santana (1-1) at 12:10 at Citi Field in New York, and Saturday's Game Thread is now open.
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people are probably hung over from last night...
or at least I am still….
"At least we still have math on our side" - Ned Yost
I'm not hung over
But I am exhausted. 11 am on a Saturday is pretty early to be getting too excited.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by Kyle Lobner on Apr 18, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Some of us aren't in Wisconsin
the game is blacked out everywhere else. I’m going to listen to the radio in the yard in about 15 minutes, but right now I’m watching “America’s Test Kitchen” instead.
Glad to see the Brewers getting the short side of the stick already...
"At least we still have math on our side" - Ned Yost
Glad to see Macha
is at least willing to argue with some umpires calls
"At least we still have math on our side" - Ned Yost
Maybe Brian Runge has a feeling Gallardo will fan 27
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It seems like every time I look up the Brewers opponents have 2 guys on.
Nice job by YoGa getting out of it though.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 18, 2009 12:32 PM CDT reply actions
This umpire has a very aggressive strike call...
"At least we still have math on our side" - Ned Yost
I wonder when Tom Hallion's crew will draw the Brewers
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Maybe they'll walked Kendall
To get to Gallardo
A man can dream.
Doesn't it say "in play, runs" when it's a homer?
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by Kyle Lobner on Apr 18, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
homer always does
i think they sometimes don’t immediately put up “runs” if the play is complicated
by PagsBrewCrew on Apr 18, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
So if we've established anything this season, it's that Jeff Suppan sucks.
but if we’ve established two things, the second one may be that Yovani Gallardo is capable of winning his own pitcher’s duels with a home run.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
And if we've established three things
It’s that i’m still a little too slow today to write timely, pithy comments during Gallardo’s at bats.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by Kyle Lobner on Apr 18, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Gallardo
Got about two minutes off the field there.
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Followed by
about two minutes on the field.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Not too shabby though
55 pitches is less than I was guessing after all the long at-bats
by hamburgular17 on Apr 18, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Gallardo 55 through 3, Santana 52 after Hardy's fly out
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Afternoon, everyone
Let’s pause for a moment and remember this.
jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner
The first homerun...
for the man who is Prince…and soon to be King!
"At least we still have math on our side" - Ned Yost
Weeks' first homer was in the same game, off Santana
jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner
Prince's inside the park HR?
Or the Brewer careers of Chris Magruder, Trent Durrington, Julio Santana, Ricky Botallico and Tomo Ohka?
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
That wasn't the inside the park homer game
That one was blown by Chris Spurling.
Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.
Ok, trying something new:
Rally Buttermilk Bran Muffins.
If the Crew wins today, I’m going to end up making lots of them.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Awesome
“That’s Yovani’s second base hit this year.”—kind of underselling the first one.
jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner
That strike call makes it really easy to follow the game pitch-by-pitch when not looking at the TV
jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner
Teach it to Lee Haydel and no one else
jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner
92 pitches
Awkward situation there.
Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.
Sitting in a coffee house in Pittsburgh...
and watching Gallardo throw a great game. I am supposed to be doing wedding planning.
by Bernie's Mustache Wax on Apr 18, 2009 1:42 PM CDT reply actions
Nice work
I’ve been using baseball as an excuse to avoid wedding nonsense for several months.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Brewers have only been over 50% to win one time today
And that was Hart’s single to lead off the inning. They quickly took care of that.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Thank you for being quick, Ryan
jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner
Paging Kirbir...
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Yes yes yes
That will save his arm, too. Excellent.
Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.
Good old fashioned 7-6-4 double play
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Nice defensive play all around.
When do we stop calling Braun’s outfield play “pretty good, for a converted infielder” and just start calling it “pretty good?”
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
I stopped about halfway through last season.
The Cubs fans are stuck at, “Not very good”.
Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.
agreed!
The Senator, while insisting he was not drunk, could not explain his nudity.
by trippingandy on Apr 18, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions
So much for Villanueva as a closer
jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner
Well, Hoffman is due back in about a week.
A perfect time for Coffey to get a cup of coffee in the role.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
wow
bill and brian are both calling cv gallardo
by Marty McSuperFly on Apr 18, 2009 2:06 PM CDT reply actions
Really.
Still, now? How long did it take them to figure it out?
Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.
Well, they both did wear #42 three days ago.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
It would be terrible if Santos pulled something pinch-running here
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Speaking of things that are terrible...
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Sigh
Weeks needs Nick Altrock’s glove.
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well
that was a fun game
The Senator, while insisting he was not drunk, could not explain his nudity.
Not over yet, if Villy can get out without any more damage.
Too bad though. Gallardo deserved better.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 18, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
You knew a play like the last two were coming.
Too bad it happened to us instead of them.
Without Weeks’ error it’s still 0-0 so far…
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 18, 2009 2:12 PM CDT reply actions
Could have done without Villanueva walking the 8th spot, too
jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner
When this inning started
I thought to myself, boy, I’d feel a lot better about this game if I had the Met’s bullpen
Feels a lot like it did a few years ago...
… when Sheets would take the mound. It felt like if you lost that game you might not win again for a week.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 18, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure.
And that last hit would have plated that runner anyway.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 18, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I gotta say
Call me a Weeks apologist, but the way Carlos is pitching, these runs were coming in, anyway.
by Marty McSuperFly on Apr 18, 2009 2:15 PM CDT reply actions
Weeks apologist.
:)
But your not wrong. It would have been 1 run at least.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 18, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
The run didn't come off the board, sadly
jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner
Really?
Is it your 7th Brewers jersey?
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 18, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Huh.
I had a Bill Schroeder Packers jersey for the same reason.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 18, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Good deal
I went to the Clubhouse sale 2 years ago. They had Gross jersey on the rack, I picked it up righta way to mull it over. It was listed at $250, but I thought what the hell. I walked up to check out, $75 bucks! I kindly paid and left. That’s way cheaper then even a replica.
could be way worse
you could have got the authentic suppan jersey
The Senator, while insisting he was not drunk, could not explain his nudity.
by trippingandy on Apr 18, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
When you wear it, you can still feel the suckiness!
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 18, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Some people pay extra for that.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Right.
Video footage of the combination of plays.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Bad news
Julio “The Gascan” is up in the pen
Maybe McGehee thinks it's still March
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Craig Counsell pinch hitting for McGehee?
Does this move strike anyone as a good idea?
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Counsell waited all of one pitch to answer that one.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
i was
just about to ask the same question when i saw that
The Senator, while insisting he was not drunk, could not explain his nudity.
by trippingandy on Apr 18, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not like McGehee is way better than Counsell offensively
jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner
It's kind of the same argument as the one we've had about pinch hitting for Kendall late in games.
We don’t know that the replacement is better, but we know exactly how low Counsell’s upside is.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
We know plenty about McGehee
He’s got more power than Counsell, but Counsell is more likely to get on base, and by a larger factor than the power difference. There’s a reason McGehee is being treated as a defensive sub.
jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner
Now, if you want to ask why McGehee got subbed in in the first place, ask away
jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner
New to the National league
Gotta double-switch! And then replace the guy you double-switched in with another guy.
by Marty McSuperFly on Apr 18, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm aware of the danger of being "that guy"
I really don’t like what I’m seeing out of Macha thus far.
by Marty McSuperFly on Apr 18, 2009 2:22 PM CDT reply actions
i’ll join you as being a “that guy”
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by trippingandy on Apr 18, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, this should be interesting
jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner
Way to come back from 0-2, dude
jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner
Watching the Mets really makes me jealous of their ability to throw infinite money at their bullpen. I will never, ever feel at ease as long as the best we can do is trying to refurbish other teams’ castoffs.
The Brewers haven't exactly gone cheap in recent years either.
They offered about $10/year to Cordero, and spent a small fortune on Gagne, Hoffman and Riske too.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Throwing gobs of cash at people who probably should be reclamation projects doesn’t exactly count in my book.
Right
But it’s not that they’re cheap or don’t have money to throw around, it’s that they failed to spend wisely. That’s a different problem.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
You're missing the third option
Use guys like Dillard, “failed” AAAA starter types whose stuff plays up well in the bullpen, and build internally on the cheap. Melvin rarely does this, and I don’t know why (who besides CV?)
jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner
Agreed
Letting a guy like Bateman walk and continually signing retreads like Jorge Julio does not seem to be paying off.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Exactly!
DM appears to be doing it wrong. He’s signings like we have a large money pool, yet with our market size. It seems like we should follow the Marlins lead. Every few years make a really good team for 2 years or so, and then trade for more young talent and build an uber farm system to bring in good players. Fill in the rest of the missing parts every few years with his love for Gritty veterans.
Between two pitchers throwing junk for a year, we are on the hook for over 34 million dollars for just those two. Yuck.
McClung would count as well, I guess
Even though the Brewers didn’t draft and develop him, he was still in the same salary range.
jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner
hardy
can redeem himself right here
The Senator, while insisting he was not drunk, could not explain his nudity.
Brian kindly reminding us that a homer would put the Brewers ahead
jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner
What a charming way to end the game
Passive-aggressive.
jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner
maybe it just looked weird cuz it got thrown right away
"At least we still have math on our side" - Ned Yost
What the heck is wrong with this team?
We’re going to lose a lot of games if we keep playing this way. Guaranteed to lose our 4th straight series now.
Crimson and Cream Machine
Baseball season = Go Brew Crew!
by dishingoutdimes on Apr 18, 2009 2:48 PM CDT reply actions
I wonder...
what Ned yost is doing right now, hw proly wouldn’t be a bad manager
We..
We are not a good enough team to dig a hole this early in the season, I don’t see them play 15 games about .500 the rest of the way. Is it to early to start thinking about trading away feilder?? Proly would get more for him the earlier we trade him
+1
People keep saying, “Oh it’s early” “Oh we have plenty of times” “Oh we have 151 games left”. I don’t care what you say, this says it all:
I don’t see them play 15 games above .500 the rest of the way.
We just wasted a GEM of a performance by Gallardo and now are throwing out Suppan tomorrow? Might as well mark it down as 3-9. Then we go to play at the defending champs house. This team could be easily 4-11 by next week. That’s absolutely shameful for the amount of talent that we have.
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Baseball season = Go Brew Crew!
by dishingoutdimes on Apr 18, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah
I hate when people say that. These games count just as much as the games at the end of the year
at the end of the year
you get to see how much ground you have to make up though.
these are games that are easier to play mediocre. near the end is when you HAVE to play well, assuming you’re anywhere near the lead.
by PagsBrewCrew on Apr 18, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I actually disagree
You can’t look at it that way. It’s a trap.
I remember in 2007 when we were 24-10. It occurred to me that playing .500 the rest of the way would bring a 92-70 record, and I thought there was no way they would only play .500. They were about 10 games under .500 the rest of the way. The opposite applies— you can’t just look at it like this. You can find a 5-10 stretch in almost any team’s season, our’s just happens to be right at the beginning.
We should probably write of Boston (4-6), Cleveland (4-8), San Fran (3-8), and Arizona (4-7) too.
Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.
4th loss of 8 so far that have been by 1 run
Disgusting
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Baseball season = Go Brew Crew!
by dishingoutdimes on Apr 18, 2009 2:51 PM CDT reply actions
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