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Rob "R.J." Swindle's Debut

Doug Melvin burglarized the other 29 major league teams by signing Rob "R.J." Swindle to a minimum major league deal this off-season, and he made his season debut with the Brewers last night after an impressive week in AAA. He walked his first batter, former teammate Chase Utley, but then settled down and pitched 1 1/3 effective innings.

Jeff looked at Swindle's minor league numbers last week, but now we have some data from his outing to look at. 21 of Swindle's 31 pitches were strikes. He induced two swinging strikes, on the strikeouts to Howard and Coste, the first on an 81 mph fastball and the second on a 73 mph change-up. Swindle's top fastball was 82.7.

Then there is the pitch that Gameday calls "Unknown". It is Swindle's fabled curveball. I expected that the 55 mph figure we heard for the pitch was an exaggeration, especially after Bill Schroeder talked about it being in the mid-60s on last night's broadcast. Though they were not picked up by the radar gun for FSN, these three slow curves were thrown at 53.5, 54, and 54.5 mph. One was a called strike, one fouled, and one called a ball.  Each crossed the plate at about 50 mph.

Swindle seems to have broken Gameday's pitch identification algorithm, but I can pick out what most of these pitches are. The ones I think are fastballs move much like two-seam fastballs would, breaking in towards lefty batters and away from righties, though not necessarily down-- they move on a pretty flat plane, which is to be expected from a side-armer like Swindle. They averaged about 81 mph.

The curveballs have some ridiculous movement; they are breaking 10-12 inches away from lefties and rising about 3 inches. Most breaking balls move far less horizontally and vertically (pitches usually "rise" by the pitch fx measurements). 

I am pretty confident in saying he was throwing a 2-seam style fastball, a change, the slow curve, and one other pitch-- probably a moderately breaking slider or cutter, which is a tough pitch to identify-- even Randy Johnson's slider has about 0 inches of horizontal break (remember that it is more of a unit for measurement than a measure of the distance the pitch broke, a looping pitch that starts and ends at a point on a line would have 0 inches of break). It should be an effective pitch when mixed with the opposite-breaking fastball. 

In any case, after the initial walk and wild pitch, Swindle settled down and pitched well. Most of his pitches are also on the same horizontal plane, so a hitter has to decide if the pitch is coming towards him or moving away from him without the clue of it breaking up or down as well-- and that is without considering the potential embarassment of being fooled by the curve. His stuff looks like it will give lefties a very tough time and he might be effective in mop-up situations against righites as well. If the decision next weekend is between dropping Julio or Swindle from the 25-man, I would keep Swindle. Having nasty stuff does not necesarilly mean that the pitcher throws hard.

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Gameday is fixing RJ

I got a note from them this morning, they got hosed by his curveball. They had assumed anything under 55mph is a mistake.

by Harry Pavlidis on Apr 22, 2009 1:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Swindled

I loved the look on Ryan Howard’s face when RJ threw that slurvegyro ball. That deer in the headlights look alone makes him more valuable than Hoolio. As teammates, Howard has seen RJ pitch and still couldn’t do anything about it. I’m looking forward to unleashing RJ on unsuspecting hitters.

by GoCrew on Apr 22, 2009 1:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed

Last night’s game was tough to stomach, but the fact that RJ pitched made it worth watching in my mind. If we’re losing, and he pitches, it’s like a consolation prize.

A stolen, consolation prize.

by tcyoung on Apr 22, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Phillies phan here. We barely saw Swindle last year, but in his brief cup of coffee he was effective against LHP — against righties, not so much.

I’ll be rooting for him as long as he’s not facing the Phils. :)

by phatj on Apr 22, 2009 1:53 PM CDT reply actions  

General Pitch F/X Question

You always hear that certain stadiums and TV use radar guns that are a little bit generous. Does Pitch F/X use the same guns, or are they more accurate?

by tcyoung on Apr 22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT reply actions  

doesn't use "guns"

it’s based on cameras mounted around the park.

This is all second-hand, since I haven’t done any pfx work myself, but the main issue is that the cameras aren’t all mounted in the exact same places at the exact same angles. So part of what made Josh’s (dixieflatline’s) work so valuable is that he did the math to adjust for the quirks in each park’s camera setup. I think that had more of an effect on judging movement than on speed, but I could be wrong.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 22, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

So we could figure out which team hired him

By working out which stadium’s cameras moved around mysteriously this offseason? :)

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Apr 22, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Circus Act

Yeah it was an ugly game last night, but I just do not get this fascination the Brewers have with these side arming, “no stuff” lefties.

True, he got some people out, but its just so ugly watching him throw. But his overall day was not very good at all.

There is a reason guys like this come so freely (see also Mike DeFelice and Casey McGehee). He was hit hard, he didnt have very good control, and all of his inherited runners scored. ’Wright, or even Narveson is a better option.

by backtocali on Apr 22, 2009 3:27 PM CDT reply actions  

He walked 1 batter

1 pitch got away from him. Had he come in with 1 runner on, it would have been seen as a successful outing. Who cares how ugly it is to watch him throw? I think Jeff and Jordan have done very good work in the last week to remove the “no stuff” tag. Just because he throws a slow pitch, gimmick or not, doesn’t mean he doesn’t have stuff.

by tcyoung on Apr 22, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

i’d agree with alot of this. i don’t think the bamboozler was settled and pitching well at any point in his brewer debut. he threw a few good pitches at the edges of the strike zone, but he also threw quite a few pitches nowhere near the strike zone and some meatballs.

Bring Back The Old Logo!

by jacob on Apr 22, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're pretty close to getting banned as a troll.

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Apr 22, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Googling around a bit, I see he developed quite the personal fanclub over at mlb.com’s Brewers forums with the same act…

by Zeyes on Apr 22, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tell me one thing that I have said that was untrue.

Dissent is not the same as “trolling”. Thats the problem with a lot of fans, if you dont act like you are gung ho for the team, you are against the team in some way.

Without dissent you have nothing but yes men. That mentality took the Brewers a long way during the Selig years.

by backtocali on Apr 22, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he throws pretty.

Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.

by Jordan M on Apr 22, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

As far as I'm concerned

if someone is in a brewers uniform and getting outs right now, gimmicky or not, he deserves a spot and a shot to prove he can do so consistently. Our pitching staff is in no position to be worried about much else.

by freeski5412 on Apr 22, 2009 5:58 PM CDT reply actions  

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