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Chien-Ming Wang to the DL

Shocking.

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by TheJay on Apr 25, 2009 3:44 PM CDT reply actions  

"NFL" - what is that?

New Federal League?

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Apr 25, 2009 3:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Sounds like the Packers might get Michael Crabtree

Top-rated WR.

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Apr 25, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

i hope not

They have a prototype NT on the board in Raji and are stacked at WR…

by warwick5s on Apr 25, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good call

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Apr 25, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

BJ Raji

is on the phone and his family is cheering

by CheezeconQueso on Apr 25, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would have gone the other way, myself.

Bigger need at NT of course, but Crabtree’s a rarer talent in my opinion.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 25, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am still suprised

The Raiders didn’t take Crabtree instead of Heyward-Bey

by Saltire on Apr 25, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

You and the rest of ESPN

They were really confused.

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Apr 25, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was surprised they took Heyward-Bey..

… but I wasn’t surprised they passed on Crabtree. Big Al doesn’t take WRs who he thinks would run a 4.6 if he had been timed. Really though, Crabtree has just about he perfect body-type for a cold weather WR. GB didn’t have a need there, but I think he could have been huge for Rodgers. And I get nervous drafting fat kids who smoke weed that high. Hope I’m wrong.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 25, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting

From the JS:

Crabtree is the top-rated player on general manager Ted Thompson’s board and, despite significant needs on both lines and at outside linebacker, it seems likely the Packers will stay true to their board provided Crabtree is available.
I thought Thompson was strictly a best-available guy.

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Apr 25, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

So did McGinn.

McGinn’s really good. He’s nailed GB’s picks before, though less often since Thompson’s been around. If McGinn says they had Crabtree rated higher, then I suspect that’s true. Thompson said afterward that he didn’t anticipate the board looking like it did when it got to #9. My guess is he was hoping Raji or Crabtree would drop but never thought they both would (Thanks, Al Davis). He may have regarded the two guys as having roughly equal value, I suppose, and then Raji made more sense due to the need and scarcity of the position. But to me, the chance to draft a guy like Crabtree could be comes along about once every 10 years.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 25, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

DT's maybe

but huge 3-4 nose tackles like Raji/Ngata/Wilfork typically are a one-a-year deal

by warwick5s on Apr 25, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

They're pretty rare, it's true.

Particularly if they can rush the passer. But if Raji can’t and he turns into a 2 down player and Crabtree dominates physically they way many think he can, I still think it’s a mistake.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 25, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Random (Possibly Ridiculous) Q

Last night at the close of the broadcast, Ueck said something to the effect of, “And in his first ever compete game win, Yovani…” Has a pitcher ever pitched a complete game and lost?

"A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz."

by Princess Grumbles on Apr 25, 2009 3:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Kevin Millwood

lost a complete game last week, 2-0 to KC

by CheezeconQueso on Apr 25, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

There have been 30 or so each year this decade and back when relievers weren’t used much, one of the starters usually picked up a complete game loss.

The last Brewer to pitch a complete game loss was Chris Capuano on July 31, 2006.

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by TheJay on Apr 25, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was that a part of his awesome winless streak?

BCB, the preferred above replacement level sarcasm supplier.

by MadJimiBrewha on Apr 25, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

The streak was in 2007

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Apr 25, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah

The prelude to the streak…What an unlucky bastard.

BCB, the preferred above replacement level sarcasm supplier.

by MadJimiBrewha on Apr 25, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

if by

unlucky you mean crappy

Do not patronize this bar.
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by molitorfan on Apr 25, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

You'll often see a visiting pitcher go 8 innings but get the loss

Since the home team doesn’t have to bat in the 9th inning, that’s technically a complete game.

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Apr 25, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

Soriano epic outfield fail.

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Apr 25, 2009 4:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Khalil Greene was up with first & third, one out

He hit a deep fly ball to left and Soriano just kind of meandered to his left, like it was a lazy pop fly, and then started drifting back…back…back…and still didn’t come close to catching it. That thing was up there awhile; he just played it extremely nonchalantly.

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Apr 25, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Indeed

It does seem windy, though. Fukudome’s had a couple adventures in RF.

Also, read the latest in the Milton Bradley saga.

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Apr 25, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, they interviewed Lou on TV

He said Marmol would be a couple days, Ramirez at least three days, and Bradley basically a question mark.

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Apr 25, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm surprised it's taken this long.

I really thought they’d run into this problem last season.

It’s shitty, but I really enjoy the fact that Cubs fans are finally starting to realize how much high-priced aging talent they’ve got on board. Soriano’s contract gets truly ludicrous in the next few years.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 25, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gameday

Described it as fly ball to centre but the red dot seemed to be over the left fielder

by Saltire on Apr 25, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does anybody think that the Cards are now the favourites for the Central?

Or are the Cubs still the team to beat to finish 1st?

I ask this as it is normal to want the Cubbies to lose but the Cards do seem to be playing alot better at the moment.

by Saltire on Apr 25, 2009 4:25 PM CDT reply actions  

I was thinking about putting up a poll asking this question

“Are you still cheering against the Cubs when they play the Cardinals?”

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Apr 25, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hm..

When Lee starts batting the cubs will be dangerous again. The cards are playing well, but I’m not sure if they can maintain. There 2-6 hitters are all batting over .300, but theyre not all 300 hitters

by Metagen on Apr 25, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure that Lee

will ever hit much this year, he has not shown much power since he had injury problems with his wrists.

by Saltire on Apr 25, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

For the Cards to maintain..

… they’d have to be one of the best teams of all time. Hardly seems likely.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 25, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Since Ludwick seems not to be a 1 year wonder

It does enhance there chances alot of scoring enough runs all year to be competitive.
I suppose it depends how there starting pitching holds up especially since they don’t exactly have a bull-pen that looks like it can handle alot of work.

by Saltire on Apr 25, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

You mean ESPN cares about the Yankees and Red Soxs

I would never have noticed ;)

Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S

by WSB Chris on Apr 25, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

No changes in the Crew's line-up against the Astros

Except at SP of course – The Astros unsuprisingly have I-Rod catching todays game

by Saltire on Apr 25, 2009 4:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Listening to the WGN radio feed

I love Santo when the Cubs are losing

Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S

by WSB Chris on Apr 25, 2009 5:51 PM CDT reply actions  

AWWW

AWWWW NOOO

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Apr 25, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Santo will die on the air

It will be Epic Radio lol

Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S

by WSB Chris on Apr 25, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

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