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Milwaukee Brewers' Ryan Braun reacts after being hit by a pitch from the Pittsburgh Pirates' Jeff Karstens in the third inning of a baseball game Monday, April 27, 2009, in Milwaukee. (AP Photo/Darren Hauck)

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6 months ago: Milwaukee Brewers' Ryan Braun reacts after being hit by a pitch from the Pittsburgh Pirates' Jeff Karstens in the third inning of a baseball game Monday, April 27, 2009, in Milwaukee. (AP Photo/Darren Hauck)

Some things to read while remembering the Contra code.

Good morning, Brewer fans, and welcome to the Trevor Hoffman era. Adam McCalvy has the story of the most talked about ninth inning appearance in a non-save situation  in Brewer history.

Ryan Braun was still upset after the game about getting hit by Jeff Karstens, and suggested retaliation may be in order today. The Brewers and Pirates play each other 13 more times this season, so a prolonged grudge would have plenty of time to develop into an ugly mess.

It probably wasn't fun to be the families of the three Pirates with Wisconsin ties last night. One of them, Jason Jaramillo, was profiled in the Racine Journal Times.

Here's something else you may not have known about this Brewers-Pirates matchup: According to Joe Posnanski, these two teams have waited the longest and second longest in all of baseball to appear on the cover of Sports Illustrated. The Brewers have the longest drought, not having appeared solo on the cover since Rob Deer did it in 1987. Ryan Braun appeared with two non-Brewers last season.

Mike Cameron continued his hot start last night, connecting for his fifth home run. Jack Moore of Right Field Bleachers took a deeper look at Cameron's start, and says there's more to it than just luck.

On the other end of the spectrum, Brad Nelson struck out last night and is now 0-for-13. Chuckie Hacks is ready to throw Nelson under the bus, but if every player who went 0-for-13 was DFA'd there would be an awful lot of talented players on the move. Nelson worked the count again last night (there was a full count when he struck out), and if he stays patient he'll connect eventually. It's not like he's hitting weak grounders on the first pitch.

Baseball Analysts is working to determine the best pitches of 2009, and Yovani Gallardo checks in with the fourth best slider.

If the Brewers decide to get Gallardo some help in the rotation, it won't be Pedro Martinez. Doug Melvin squashed a rumor that the Brewers might be interested in signing him. The original rumor came from Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe, which is why I never bothered mentioning it in the first place.

Several minor league notes today:

If you're bored this morning and would like to listen to some baseball, Nashville closes out a series with Iowa at 11 am today and you can listen to it here. (h/t Rattler Radio)

The Brewers have won six of their last eight games and recently took two of three from the defending world champions on the road, so it's probably safe to assume that the baseball world will take a little notice, right? That's not the case for Richard Griffin of the Toronto Star, who left the Brewers at 26 in his power rankings. The Brewers moved up from 27th to 22nd in ESPN's rankings.

When do you boo at Miller Park? Miller Park Drunk says fans are booing too often, and has a list of times when it's allowed.

Around the league:

Astros: Jose Valverde will miss a few days after aggravating a strained calf in Sunday's game.
Giants: Outfielder Andres Torres is expected to be placed on the DL with a hamstring strain.
Padres: Designated pitcher Eulogio de la Cruz for assignment.
Tigers: Released pitcher Scott Williamson.

With new technology comes new opportunities to make yourself look like an idiot. Giants closer Brian Wilson blew a save Sunday, just a few hours after mentioning having fun in Scottsdale on Twitter, at 1 am. Wilson has responded to concerns and is quitting Twitter. The Giants would probably be better off if he stopped going out before day games.

The Ballpark in Arlington has always been a scary place for pitchers, even more so than it should be based on dimensions and climate factors. Beyond the Box Score spotted a quote over the weekend regarding the mound construction, and wonders if that might be a factor.

Oh, and BCB still doesn't have a resident photoshopper, but I'd rather have a resident Lego builder anyway.

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It's obvious you are beating the drum for Brad Nelson......

and I totally am fine with that. I questioned his batting in that spot in last night’s game thread. I just want to clarify, that I’m not saying bench him, or release him, or call up Gamel, or anything like that.

However, if the only argument for him batting is “maybe he’ll straighten out eventually” and “at least he watches a few balls go by before he makes an out”, I don’t think those are compelling arguments for why he should be batting in critical situations. I’m fine with him pinch hitting, I am fine with the occaisional start, and I realize he will in all likelihood get a hit eventually, but to have him bat in those huge spots when he has shown nothing at the plate thus far is just crazy to me. Counsell made a heck of a lot more sense in that spot last night, in my opinion. It would be the same thing to have brought in Julio in the 8th last night, because he throws hard and at least throws a couple of strikes before he walks a guy.

/not angry, just disagreeing…….

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by Adam P on Apr 28, 2009 9:15 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Numerous people called to DFA him in last night's game thread

I agree with you in that you should have to earn the leverage of pinch hit situations, but I think some need to be more patient.

by tcyoung on Apr 28, 2009 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nelson struck out swinging with the bases loaded, true.

But I think if Counsell had come up in that spot, several of us would have predicted a 4-6-3 double play and the end of the inning anyway.

Macha rolled the dice and went with Nelson, his biggest power bat off the bench, in an effort to blow the game open. It didn’t work out, but I’m not sold on it being the wrong call.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by KLSnow on Apr 28, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough.

I would have predicted the double play. :-)

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by KLSnow on Apr 28, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man the unicorns on ESPN’s homepage was hilarious! Classic!

Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb

by verno329 on Apr 28, 2009 9:18 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Miller Park Booing

The fans at Miller Park are VERY quick to jump on a guy if he’s not performing. Unfortunately, I think there is a certain sector of players that get flustered with booing. Last year, Gagne would get booed before he even threw a pitch. It’s just another way Brewers fans are hardly different than Cubs fans.

by tcyoung on Apr 28, 2009 9:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Last nigth the Pirate TV guys made a big deal out of the Standing O Counsell got for his bunt

They were kind of laughing at it.

I personally think Brewers fans have come a long way that they appreciate a good sac bunt done at the rights time enough to give it a standing O

I think we are moving closer to the Level that St Louis Fans are at.

As for the Booing Brewers fans are very loyal but they also take a long time to forgive Hall went through it but I rarely hear them booing him so far this season.

Produce and they will not boo.

Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S

by WSB Chris on Apr 28, 2009 9:31 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I really liked that moment

Counsell came in and did exactly what he was called on to do. That was a pretty big spot in the game. The Pirate announcers can mock that standing ovation once they get that many fans in their stadium. The Pirates’ fans are pretty knowledgable, so I’m guessing they’d give the same ovation.

by tcyoung on Apr 28, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So when Manny Parra throws 8 balls in a row, including 4 to the opposing pitcher ...

I should do what, exactly? Sit on my hands? Shake my head? Grimace, and hope Manny sees how disappointed I am?

by Rubie Q on Apr 28, 2009 9:51 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

no, you should definitely try to harm him some way. i mean who does he think he is disappointing you with bad pitches?

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by jacob on Apr 28, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the comments on the Miller Park Drunk post

I added some things to their list of boo-worthy events:

1) Ned Yost, and
2) Sloppy play.

It’s my opinion that a complete inability to throw strikes counts as sloppy play.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by KLSnow on Apr 28, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I boo the caricature of Ned Yost that they’ve got in TGI Friday’s, just so Nedly doesn’t think I’ve forgotten about him.

by Rubie Q on Apr 28, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What do you hope to accomplish by booing. Parra is going to say, “Hey, I am being bood, now I am going to throw strikes.”

That type of thinking just does not make sence to me.

"You are only a success at the moment that you do a successful act"
-Tex Winter

by stork02 on Apr 28, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yes. I think I have so much influence on the game that I can convince Manny Parra, through my booing, to start throwing strikes.

Or I’m just using the only means I have of expressing my dismay with his performance, and I don’t pretend that, by booing or cheering or singing “The Battle Hymn of the Republic” at the top of my lungs, I can change what happens on the field.

You know, either/or.

by Rubie Q on Apr 28, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think fans have great influence in play both negative and positive. If I didn’t I wouldn’t stand up and cheer when a brewer pitcher has someone with two strikes, or I would not cheer when a Brewer hitter is up with 2 on and 2 out and the Crew is down by one.

I just don’t see the positive value in booing your home team.

"You are only a success at the moment that you do a successful act"
-Tex Winter

by stork02 on Apr 28, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m sorry, dude, I just can’t agree with this. If the fans standing and cheering when a Brewer pitcher had two strikes on a batter had an influence on the outcome, Freddy Sanchez wouldn’t have hit that two-out, two-strike double last night. But he did, no matter how loud you were yelling for him to strike out.

And if Manny (or Corey Hart) can’t function well unless he’s being cheered, and goes into a funk when he’s being booed — heck, if they even pay attention to that stuff while the game is going on … well, they’re probably in the wrong profession.

by Rubie Q on Apr 28, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is not the only factor, but it is a factor. If you don’t think the way the Brewer fans got behind CC last year didn’t help him bring it to another level they you are nuts.

"You are only a success at the moment that you do a successful act"
-Tex Winter

by stork02 on Apr 28, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to go with Rubie on this one

Booing your home team is a sacred right of a sports fan. It is the way we let our team know we are not happy with them. It actually lets them know we do give a crap. Would you rather have silence after a walk like they do in Arlington or Miami? The fact is that booing shows the passion of the fan base. It’s not exactly a message to the pitcher himself as much it is a message to management that we are displeased with the situations our players are playing themselves into.

Remember when Ned kept trotting Jenks out to face lefties? Or how about when Gagne would take a flamethrower to an inning? We boo because we care, and we pay, and we have nowhere near the talent of those guys, but we know that they should be put in better spots.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Apr 28, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are definitely times when it is appropriate

But I think it’s a little bit too much, too often at Miller Park. Alcohol probably has a lot to do with that.

by tcyoung on Apr 28, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why kick a guy when he is down, when the whole reason you follow the Brewers is to have the joy of seeing them win.

Booing repeated lack of effort or repeated brain farts is one thing, but to jump on a guy because he had a comment in the paper or walked three guys just seems counterproductive to me.

"You are only a success at the moment that you do a successful act"
-Tex Winter

by stork02 on Apr 28, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

So I know everyone hates on Bill Hall alot...

…but he’s been playing real well this year. Maybe lasik had an effect? I thought Billy and Mike Cameron would be the two players that would have to make big improvements to keep the Brewers in the hunt.

Parra will get it sorted out. Give him some time.

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by dishingoutdimes on Apr 28, 2009 10:23 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't say everyone hates Bill Hall.

In fact, I think this community is pretty divided on him.

His improvement has been nice to see, and I think he’s doing a lot to prove he deserves to stay in a key role, even as his back is up against the wall with Mat Gamel waiting for a chance.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by KLSnow on Apr 28, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The community is pretty divided

But I still think everybody wants to root for him. He did some damage to his image when he was talking about being traded, but I think the city really likes Bill Hall and is rooting for him to do well. Moreso than, say, Prince Fielder or Rickie Weeks.

by tcyoung on Apr 28, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It goes back to producing

If Hall keeps playing well he will quickly go back to being a fan favorite. I like the fact he actually walked twice last night.

If Hall and Cameron and Weeks keep up what they are doing so far I like our chances to be in the hunt all season.

Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S

by WSB Chris on Apr 28, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the element missing in all this is Hall's D

yes, he made a game changing mistake v. the Astros on Sunday. But he’s been solid to spectacular all year long, saving us some good runs as well. He’s in my good graces, unlike certain catchers that look like Henry Rollins with a shaved head and goatee.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Apr 28, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it has a lot to do with producing according to the expectaition that came with his “big” contract

"You are only a success at the moment that you do a successful act"
-Tex Winter

by stork02 on Apr 28, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course, the trade talk was more of a brainfart by his agent...

I’m sure plenty of players who get booed or shortchanged on playing time are complaining to their representation, but it doesn’t usually end up in the newspaper.

by Zeyes on Apr 28, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brian Wilson

I love his response. Let’s break it down FJM style:

I just can’t believe anyone would question my character. What about all the positive media and things we’ve done?

Well Brian, negative media usually trumps all positive things you have done. When you stay out partying the night before a day game, what did you expect?
This Twitter crap, I’ve obviously got to stop because people are taking it too serious. My aspect of that is I write a bunch of stuff that’s not true. It’s made up.

So you made stuff up and posted it at 1 AM. You made up that you were partying in Scottsdale and that overaggressive males are not. Because… Why would you even put yourself in the position for people to infer this?!?
Obviously I’m not doing things like going toe-to-toe with a ninja. Find me a ninja, for one.

Ok man, you’ve completely lost your shit here. What if I did find you a ninja, would you go toe to toe with it?
"Obviously, it’s my fault for making up a bunch of stuff but I know for a fact most of those followers know I’m not being serious. They just like hearing funny stuff. Some people don’t understand, but I’m not an idiot, so obviously, I’ve got to stop."

apparently. However, I would contend you are an idiot. See your ninja comment.
When asked was he out Saturday night, he said:
No, I wasn’t out at all Saturday night. I was playing video games. But you know what, people will believe what they want to believe. That’s fine, I guess.

Dude, you put us in the position to believe that you were out. It’s not like we’re pulling this from mid-air here.
The last thing I want to do is have people think I don’t take my job seriously."

too late

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Apr 28, 2009 10:38 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

also...
No, I wasn’t out at all Saturday night. I was playing video games. But you know what, people will believe what they want to believe. That’s fine, I guess.

you were twittering at 1AM. You were not where you should have been (sleeping). you had a goddamned day game. you should be in bed by 10PM at the latest.

by PagsBrewCrew on Apr 28, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

okay...10PM may be a little early (if they had a game starting at 7 the previous day)

but they have to do pre-game workouts. they can’t just show up at 1PM and start to play.

They should be trying to get as close to 8-9 hours a night as possible.

by PagsBrewCrew on Apr 28, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why?

What if a guy functions perfectly fine with six hours? What if it’s a bullpen guy who won’t pitch until the game is two hours old anyway?

Either way, if the amount of sleep is related to performance, Ambien better be on the banned performance enhancers list.

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by TheJay on Apr 28, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha

also, it’s gotta be tough to get to bed early the night before a day game. These guys are usually up late with night games and don’t have to get up early the next day because they’re just playing another night game.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Apr 28, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i would think that because they're athletes

their bodies demand MORE rest than if they were average schlubs.

yeah, so he doesn’t need to pitch until 2 hours into the game, but I doubt he takes advantage of an extra two hours by napping.

by PagsBrewCrew on Apr 28, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just love how people are rebelling against the accountability that the internet brings

It reminds me of when Tom H. blamed the blogger for being the source of Neddy getting fired, when the blogger had little to know coverage of the Brewers, and was mainly a political blogger. Or when that old guy in Arizona didn’t vote for Ricky Henderson for the Hall of Fame. He blamed the internet for calling him on it.

Everyone should take note. This is a different age we live in. You will be held accountable for your actions, what you write, and what you do. I can understand your frustration since just 3 years ago it was not like this. But it is now.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Apr 28, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right

Because accountability is getting blasted for tweets a reporter is “paraphrasing from memory.”

I really don’t get what mortal sin Wilson committed here. It’s a stupid decision, sure, but not horrible. If he strikes out the side the next day he gets lionized as another in baseball’s long line of hard-partying, successful ballplayers. But no, he has his first poor outing of the season and suddenly he’s a flighty bastard who doesn’t take his job seriously. Give me a break. If this is the worst thing he does all season, the Giants should give him a medal. If I’m hard up for saves in fantasy baseball, I try and pick him up cheap from an owner going off the deep end about his newly-discovered character issues.

Also, what’s Bruce Bochy’s problem? Can’t he keep his players in line? He’s only got twenty-five of them to keep track of. Sounds like someone isn’t taking his job seriously if he lets his closer pull crap like this.

Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to get ready for bed so I can wake up on my soapbox again tomorrow.

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by TheJay on Apr 28, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Whether or not your closer can perform fine on less than an average amount of sleep

I don’t think it’s a bad idea to expect him to be discrete and ask him to keep his late-night activities to himself. Like you said: horrible decision? No. Stupid one? Definitely. What’s wrong with busting on your closer for making a stupid decision?

Besides, if you’re a mediocre closer like Brian Wilson, you shouldn’t be giving you team any excuse to look at another guy for the role. I think your soapbox may be a little too high on this one.

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Apr 28, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is exactly my point.

The fact that Brian Wilson was up at 1 am and potentially out at a bar isn’t really all that surprising – he might not even have been the only player in the bar.

The fact that he decided to mention it on Twitter was the stupid move.

To personalize it with a much less important example: If this morning’s Mug sucks (more than usual), you may just think I’m having a bad day. If this morning’s Mug sucks and you discover I was twittering about having fun in a bar five hours ago, then there might be a more tangible reason, and one that’s my fault.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by KLSnow on Apr 29, 2009 7:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hell...

go out and twitter at a bar. you’re a fan of the brewers afterall;)

by PagsBrewCrew on Apr 29, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: the booing

if I want to take a lifetime of sexual disappointment out on some overpaid athelete who obviously was getting trim before he was 15, has god-given abilities that the majority of us wish for, and get’s paid more than i will make in my entire lifetime over the course of his 4 year guaranteed deal, and I feel disappointed in his abilities to do his job, then yes, I will boo.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Apr 28, 2009 10:54 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and I endorse nothing in the above statement

other than the lifetime of sexual disappointment

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Apr 28, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Braun

That HBP probably had something to do with the game winning grand slam as well. He has admired quite a few HR’s in his time so far (although not the one last night), so I’m surprised that this hasnt happened yet, or more often.

I’m willing to bet that there will be a brawl between these two teams at some pojnt this season. Lots of history with Capps/Fielder and now what happened last night. Pirates arent push overs anymore and they are going to want to do like the Rays did to the Sox and Yankees last year I bet.

Since Braun is on record though, if something like this actually happens, he will be the first one suspended/fined.

by backtocali on Apr 28, 2009 11:33 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wait, the Pirates aren’t pushovers anymore?

When did that stop?

by Mykenk on Apr 28, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It always bugs me

When the home crowd boos the visiting team throwing over to first to keep the runner close. Or intentional walks to big sluggers — which I can kind of understand, since you paid big money to see them hit home runs all over the place. But still.

by andrew_p on Apr 28, 2009 11:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Booing

I have mixed feelings on booing. The Miller Park fans helped get Gagne out of the closers role last season by being vocal which that was a good thing, However, we all remember what a cry baby Corey Hart was when he was getting booed in September. And since Kapler was hurt we were stuck with Corey who at times looked like he was was giving us all the middle finger at the plate. Having said that, if I am going to vote 1000 times for Corey to get into the All-Star game, I sure as hell should be able to boo his pathetic Sept.

"You combine the fact that they're good at everything and we're good at nothing, it's not going to be a very pretty outcome." -Ryan Braun

by GoCrew on Apr 28, 2009 12:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Booing Cory Hart in Sept. sure did a lot of good.

"You are only a success at the moment that you do a successful act"
-Tex Winter

by stork02 on Apr 28, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's always a catalyst

Players that make comments that the fans didn’t like will get booed a lot more. People had it out for Gagne before he wasn’t performing. Fans were waiting for him to blow a save. The 10 million dollar contract a day before he appeared in the Mitchell report made them smell blood. But, do you really think that Ned took him out of the closers spot because he was being booed? Maybe it was the 9 (was it 9?) blown saves. The Bill Hall boos accelerated once he made trade me comments.

The manager is smart enough to evaluate his team based on performance, not based on whether or not the fans are cheering or booing for a certain player.

I side with MPD on this one. I’d much rather cheer for my team than boo them.

by tcyoung on Apr 28, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think fans would have been fine with Gagne

If he hadn’t appeared in the Mitchell Report and been terrible immediately after.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by KLSnow on Apr 28, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

should've booed Melvin for the signing

not the player

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on Apr 28, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Not Fine..

..but I think they would have reacted less harshly to his struggles.

The thing that bugged me about the Gagne situation was that he seemed very much like a player who was a head case. And with a player like that, excessive booing is only going to make things worse…it’s only going to drive down his confidence level. And without that confidence, very little good is going to come from putting him on the hill.

If I remember right, he was used in low-leverage situations mid-season, and he actually had a decent 2nd half. You didn’t hear much booing then. It makes me wonder how much not being booed before you even make it to the mound from the pen would have helped him earlier in the season, had the crowd been more patient. I guess we’ll never really know.

by TheBurningRom on Apr 28, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think his epic failure in Boston contributed, too.

Posting a 6.75 ERA and 1.875 WHIP during a pennant race doesn’t exactly scream: “Expect big things from me.”

by Rubie Q on Apr 28, 2009 1:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah there were a lot of factors

Basically, they all boiled down to this: This guy isn’t worth $10 MM dollars. The fans didn’t like the signing. That was the catalyst. It wouldn’t have been so bad if they signed him to a $1 MM deal.

by tcyoung on Apr 28, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Over at Bucs Dugout

They seemed to think Ryan Braun deserved to get hit yesterday because he’s so cocky. Supposedly, things got so nasty that they deleted a handful of comments.

by tcyoung on Apr 28, 2009 2:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is the one insinuating that he's gay still up?

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Apr 28, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uhhh

Yeah, no.

And he’s not cocky… He’s just – he knows when he does a good job and likes to admire that. :)

"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"

RIP Nick Adenhart: Stop Drunk Driving

by kirbir on Apr 28, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so...

he looks at you like that after he’s done?

by PagsBrewCrew on Apr 28, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe :-p

You shoulda seen what happened at the game last night

"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"

RIP Nick Adenhart: Stop Drunk Driving

by kirbir on Apr 29, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What else can they do they are bitter and jealous.

I know bitter because as a Brewers fan I have been bitter much of my life ;)

I can remember looking at other teams and being jealous that they had a Pujols or Jeter and we had no one near that level. It has just been the last couple of years that we have had players worth of other teams being jealous.

All the asshats ripping on Braun over there would be offering their wives and daughters to him if he was wearing their uniform.

 

Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S

by WSB Chris on Apr 28, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't see that one.

I read the thread after the game. The Pirates feed must have shown him in the dugout a lot, because they kept commenting about how it looked like he was crying.

by tcyoung on Apr 28, 2009 2:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

On the Lego front

My uncle makes custom Lego figurines. After Napoleon Dynamite came out, you’ll never guess who I got a Lego of. Who knew that it could double for a mysterious man in my life.

Also, you’ll have to do without me making all my fun comments tonight, as I will be at the game enjoying the views :)

"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"

RIP Nick Adenhart: Stop Drunk Driving

by kirbir on Apr 28, 2009 4:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

pedro

sign him!!! parra sucks

by BenSheets15 on Apr 28, 2009 4:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting analysis. Very well thought out and presented.

Unless Pedros price has gone down, by down I mean a metric shit ton, there is little to no reason to even think about signing him. His peripherals look pretty ugly so far, but he’s only 26 and has a pretty big ceiling. Pedro is on the downslope of his career, and hasn’t remotely sniffed 200ip in 3 years.

I’d stick with Parra for the time being, in a few weeks/months if he’s pitching poorly, then consider making a move for Pedro. But it sure isn’t going to help our payroll.

by SgtClueLs on Apr 28, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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