Friday's Warm Mocha
by kirbir on Apr 3, 2009 9:27 AM CDT
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Yes, I know what you're thinking - "What in the world did you do to my Mug?" I'm filling in for KL today, as he embarks on adventures to the outer regions of Appleton. Since I'm not 21 for another 22 days and 14 hours - not that I'm counting or anything - I can't share any Mugs with you. Please do enjoy this tasty mocha in its place. Or perhaps you should stick to your Bran cereal.
Predictions:
- John Royal thinks that we have the bat power to play well this season, but like many worries about our bullpen.
- This guy agrees, saying our bats will need to pick up some slack after losing Sheets and Sabathia. Apparently, we have four catchers also.
- It has been suggested that YoGa might not be as much of an ace as we think he is. I think it's a lie.
- Manny Parra needs to step up to help fill the bullpen losses over the off-season.
- We're predicted to win nine games less than last season, which would probably drop us from the playoffs.
- Brian McTaggart believes that we will go 81-81, with the Phillies beating us out to win the wild card. He sees the Yanks beating fellow NY team, the Mets, to win the World Series.
- Again, we lost pitching talent and we're predicted to win 85-77. These are starting to bum me out.
- At least someone thinks we'll beat out the rest of the NL Central.
Other Teams:
- James Skelton gets moved down to AA to work on his hitting, but the Diamondbacks were happy with his catching. Instead, Arizona will send Brooks Brown to the Tigers.
- Apparently the Mariners only have one lefty in their bullpen. Will this hurt them? Probably not.
- In a similar situation as our lovely team, The Reds have a ton of young talent. The difference? They're pegged to play well this season.
- Twins (but not twins) Scott Baker and Joe Mauer have been placed on the DL. Baker has a stiff right shoulder and Mauer has "inflammation in his sacroiliac joint." For more information, or to spit a little coffee at your screen, read the last sentence here.
Random Awesomeness:
- Macha says that Escobar has a little bit of work and growing up to do before making the big leagues.
- If you want to take a look at some depth charts, check this out. Teams are on the right-hand side.
- Want to feel better about our team? The Pirates just lost to a community college. Ouch.
- It's estimated that those of us who enjoy our ballpark hot dogs will scarf down 22 million this year. Also, they want to put hot dogs in "Take Me Out to the Ballgame." Interesting.
- KLSnow and I agree that these red velvet cupcakes are a great idea, but the bacon-wrapped hot dogs maybe a little too much... or maybe not.
- If you think you're an obsessed fan, check this guy out. I wouldn't be opposed to driving a Braun car, but I'm sure I would get my car keyed and messed up by the Cubs and Sox fans here at school.
- This girl is lucky that guy was there to save her. It makes you wonder how many people get hit by or hurt trying to catch hard hit balls.
- Now I know yet another reason why James Jerry Hardy goes by JJ.
Hope you enjoyed your mocha. Oh, and you might wanna wipe that whipped cream off your face (or Cool Hwhip).
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At first,
I thought the title said “Friday’s Warm Macha.”
by oconnobe on Apr 3, 2009 9:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ditto
You did a good job though! :)
by TheBurningRom on Apr 3, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks!
And, I guess, you could have a warm macha, if you like green tea. :)
"If loving CC is wrong I do not want to be right"
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender"
by kirbir on Apr 3, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They should start selling Mocha icecream at the stadium
that’d probably be pretty good.
by PagsBrewCrew on Apr 3, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You may not be 21
But if you’re 18, you can still serve mugs to us!
by tcyoung on Apr 3, 2009 9:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd get too tempted
Besides, KL has been gettin’ you guys drunk every morning, so you need some sobering up. :-p
"If loving CC is wrong I do not want to be right"
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender"
by kirbir on Apr 3, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To think
You’ve been abstaining from alcohol all this time.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Apr 3, 2009 9:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I only really started this past year
I think the prospect of turning 21 brought on a need to increase my tolerance so the day after my birthday isn’t a complete headache.
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
by kirbir on Apr 3, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thinking ahead! That's smart!
You must be a college student.
Say, what was it like working with Michael J Fox in Back to the Future?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Apr 3, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
as long as you can get yourself up to the Hyatt Standard
you should be alright
24 shots, 8 beers, midnight to bar close. Woke up with a strange woman in my bed, 3 buckets on the ground with the floor lined with news papers, and a warm sence of satisfaction.
I just sit back and root for the taser
by Hyatt on Apr 3, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the strange woman in my bed was Ellen Page
I might be okay with that.
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
by kirbir on Apr 3, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would too
but sadly it wasn’t, but it turned out alright in the end.
I just sit back and root for the taser
by Hyatt on Apr 3, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
She’s your Mom - she’ll love you no matter what.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Apr 3, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ooooooooooooooooooooooooh
Hyatt slept with his mom and it was awkward!!
by tcyoung on Apr 3, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's just terrible Hyatt
By the way, Say Hi To Your Mom for me.
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
by kirbir on Apr 3, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love them!
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Apr 3, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then you'll be happy to know
I’m working on covers of some of their songs, most notably “Blah Blah Blah,” “These Fangs,” and “But She Beat My High Score.”
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
by kirbir on Apr 3, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No "Let's Talk about Spaceships"?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Apr 3, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm debating it
I can’t find any sheet music or anything so I have to figure it all out on my own. We’ll see what I actually do with it.
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
by kirbir on Apr 3, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, you can clearly outdrink me.
4-5 beers before going out at midnight..
7 shots and 2 beers in first 45 minutes at the bar.
(this is when my memory starts getting blurry)
1 shot at every other bar we went to (I’m not sure how many, but it was at least 4.
Don’t remember slamming the door on all my friends who stayed over and wanted to use the bathroom before they left. Headache until 4pm.
by tcyoung on Apr 3, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the day after your birthday
It still will be a complete headache.
by tcyoung on Apr 3, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure J.J.
Is actually Jerry Joseph Hardy, not James Jerry.
Thanks for filling in!
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by KLSnow on Apr 3, 2009 10:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking more like
Jose Jalapeno… on a stick.
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
by kirbir on Apr 3, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think his comedy central special
was recorded in Milwaukee
by tcyoung on Apr 3, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His holiday one was
I know they show another one sometimes that was filmed in the San Francisco area or somewhere else near the coast in Cali.
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
by kirbir on Apr 3, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A VeggieTale gone bad?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Apr 3, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope, Jim Jerry is right
Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.
by TheJay on Apr 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When are the exhibition games?
Sunday Monday?
by tcyoung on Apr 3, 2009 11:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks like today and tomorrow
Starting times both at 9:10PM.
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
by kirbir on Apr 3, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Linebrink
Somebody called the Linebrink deal terrible the other day in one of these posts.
I just looked it up, and we traded away Will Inman, Scott Thatcher, and Steve Garrison. We ended up getting 2 draft picks when Linebrink was let go. With those picks we selected Cutter Dykstra and Evan Frederickson. I really don’t think you can call that a terrible trade.
by tcyoung on Apr 3, 2009 12:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And how many draft picks did Sheets get us? Be careful with the comp picks… off course this may be the bitterness of how in effective Linebrink was, or how effect Jack Z is at turning picks to pro players.
by SgtClueLs on Apr 3, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sheets has nothing to do with the Linebrink trade
I’m just saying, when you look at the Linebrink deal, you have to take more into account than simply who we gave up.
by tcyoung on Apr 3, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We traded away five guys who may never see regular major league play
And got an average reliever who didn’t pitch very well. I’m going to come down firmly on the fence and say it wasn’t all that good or bad.
by Marty McSuperFly on Apr 3, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was me
And I’m still irritated by the Linebrink trade, mainly because he was supposed to be that bullpen piece that got us to the playoffs in 2007. (Remember, “The math favors us!”) I know that the draft picks help, and I’m sure that was part of the calculations when the trade was made, but I think it’s way too early to say that Dykstra and Frederickson are going to work out. (I’ll Grant you that Inman, Thatcher, and Garrison haven’t made huge splashes yet, either.)
by Brew Angel on Apr 3, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was a side bonus to the Linebrink trade, though
To get him on the roster, they needed to move a guy on the 40-man, right?. They moved Grant Balfour. As much as Balfour’s improved over the past year, the Brewers may have not made the playoffs without McClung.
by morineko on Apr 3, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Though we no longer have Balfour in 2008 and beyond
So I think that’s at best a wash. My biggest issue with Linebrink is that he didn’t pitch very well. No matter how good Matt LaPorta turns out to be with Cleveland, I’m not going to ding the CC trade because he was brought in to do a job (pitch us into the playoffs) and he did it! Linebrink? Not so much.
by Brew Angel on Apr 3, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s actually Joe Thatcher, and he’s done exactly jack and squat for the Pods in 2008.
On the other hand…Cutter Dykstra may be OK, he’s a position player anyway, but isn’t Frederickson the guy with the epic control problem? Good luck fixing that, kid.
by morineko on Apr 3, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thatcher was actually pretty great for the Padres in 2007
There was some clamoring to bring him up to Milwaukee that whole year.
jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner
by battlekow on Apr 3, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wunderdog
Wunderdog is a website that makes sells sports picks for betting purposes. They give away a couple free picks in an email newsletter that I signed up for, only to find that they are terrible. I swear, they’re picks are made with their eyes closed, and the Family Guy whales write the analyses that they use to justify their picks. But I haven’t unsubscribed yet, so today I got their NL Central Preview:
PREDICTED ORDER OF FINISH
1. CHICAGO
2. ST. LOUIS
3. HOUSTON
4. MILWAUKEE
5. CINCINNATI
6. PITTSBURGH
by tcyoung on Apr 3, 2009 12:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why are so many people so high on Houston? I can buy the St Louis pick… but Houston?
by Saberilliterate on Apr 3, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
those Family Guy writers
were manatees, not whales.
September 15: Not a bad little Monday
by molitorfan on Apr 4, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MILWAUKEE
LAST YEAR: 90-72
OUTLOOK
Seems like C.C. Sabathia pitched just about every meaningful game for the Brewers down the stretch last year. So he is gone, and so is Ben Sheets, so where do the Brewers turn? The cast is plentiful with some promise, as Gallardo and Bush are poised to have good years, and then choose from Suppan, Parra, McClung, and Villaneuva for someone to emerge and have an unexpected big year, because that is what it will take for the Brewers to win 90+ and be there again.
ON THE RISE: ANGEL SALOME c – Led the Brewers’ farm system with a .360 avg and could find his way to Milwaukee before season’s end.
The rest can be found here.
by tcyoung on Apr 3, 2009 12:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I take it
this was pre-Looper?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Apr 3, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weird (but not weird)
I’m surprised it mentions Suppan, McClung, Villanueva, and Parra, but not Braden.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Apr 3, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said
their picks are terrible.
by tcyoung on Apr 3, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reds might be underrated this year....
“In a similar situation as our lovely team, The Reds have a ton of young talent. The difference? They’re pegged to play well this season.”
The Reds have pitching, that is the difference.
by backtocali on Apr 3, 2009 12:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree that the Reds could be good.
But I’m not sure that you can call them underrated when just about every prediction I see has them in the top 3 in the Division.
by tcyoung on Apr 3, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Most everything that I’ve looked at has them being a prominent team this season, but, hey, there’s always room for disagreement.
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
by kirbir on Apr 3, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree!
I think 83 wins is probably their ceiling this year. The rotation is good; Harang should bounce back, Volquez may regress a little but will still be solid, Cueto should take a step forward, Arroyo should throw about 200 innings, and Owings has looked good in spring. Homer Bailey has looked every bit as good, and seems to have turned a corner, so though he will start the season in AAA, he won’t stay there for long.
However, the bullpen is a major question mark to me. Bill Bray is hurt, Nick Masset sucks (and is being kept on because he’s out of options), David Weathers is old had a 1.500+ WHIP last year, and Arthur Rhodes is strictly a LOOGY. Coco Cordero hasn’t even been So-So Cordero this spring. He’s been cover your eyes awful, and he was far from dominant last year.
The young hitters should be good, with Votto, Phillips, and Bruce leading the way. Willy Taveras frightens me, and Dusty will easily give him 700 ABs. He’ll have a green light to run every time he’s on base, and Dusty is committed to “havoc on the basepaths.” The only thing is… this team is terrible at baserunning. They will run themselves out of so many innings this season that the Reds faithful will be howling. The defense ranked 29th last year, though should be better. Still, Edwin Encarnacion has one of the wildest arms at 3B, who knows if Alex Gonzalez is recovered from a broken kneecap that made him miss all last season, and Ramon Hernandez won’t be pulling any Johnny Bench impressions behind the plate.
There’s a lot to like about this team, but contending seems incredibly far-fetched. Next year.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 3, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Twins link
Although I’m always entertained by that, perhaps I’ve grown to have a tolerance and need more. I was expecting you to go all FHM page 3ie at the very least.
Hi Kirbir!
by PagsBrewCrew on Apr 3, 2009 12:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pags, you do exist!
I think I’m hooked on that website now.
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
by kirbir on Apr 3, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i suggest it, and it becomes golden to you?
I feel all warm and fuzzy inside
I noticed you’re still using the sig I suggested. Aww:)
by PagsBrewCrew on Apr 3, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course!
You should go read my profile :)
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
by kirbir on Apr 3, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think The Crew are in the same boat with The Stros
From reading many projections it seems like The Brewers and Astros are lumped together in that they have a good lineup but can’t pitch. Now, I think The Brewers lineup will score more than The Stros, The Stros bullpen is quite a bit better than The Crew…..All in all, both will be looking up at The Scrubs and Cards
*The Reds hae the young talent to be good, but that org is destined to fail….Not worried
by baggs on Apr 3, 2009 12:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like the Astros lineup a lot
I’m still in wait-and-see mode with the Brewers Bullpen. I think it will either be really good or really bad. most of that will depend on Riske and Villa’s performance. And I suppose Hoffman’s too.
I also think the Brewers have a better rotation than the Astros, but I see what you’re saying about being in the same boat. They are fairly similar teams.
by tcyoung on Apr 3, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
The Brewers didn’t get outscored last year. The crew also can score a lot more runs, and doesn’t have Michael Bourn leading off. It’s the Plexiglass principle.
I just sit back and root for the taser
by Hyatt on Apr 3, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
These aren't the same teams as last year
The Brewers have changed the most since last year. And so you know, Bourn is batting 8th. Kaz is leading off
Both rotations aren’t good on paper, but may surprise and be “ok”
Bush = underrated
Wandy = underrated
And both staff’s depend on health to be anywhere near successful. If both staff’s are healthy (unlikely) the Stros have a better staff
by baggs on Apr 3, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who are the other three starters?
other than Wandy and Oswalt.
by tcyoung on Apr 3, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 other starters
2009 Rotation is:
Wizard
Wandy
Moehler
Hampton
Ortiz
Very unreliable as far as health goes, but still very talented. Three 20 game winners in there
by baggs on Apr 3, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hampton's 20 game winner was...
10 season’s ago
and Russ Ortiz was back in 2003, and hasn’t had a sub 5 ERA since 2004.
The argument that there are three 20 game winners in there is true, but not relevant. It’s like saying the Rangers staff is in good shape because Milwood has won an ERA title. I don’t like the Stros because they weren’t a good team last year, and just got really lucky. Teams do not get outscored and do well.
I just sit back and root for the taser
by Hyatt on Apr 3, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you disagree with
Half the reason that I didn’t like the Wunderdog picks is because they have Houston 3rd. I agree that the Brewers and Astros both have better offenses than picthing, but I was saying that the Brewers are a lot better than the Astros. In every category except bullpen. (I’m couldn’t name a single Houston reliever, so I can’t say either way on that one.
by tcyoung on Apr 3, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aside from me being a Stros fan
I honestly don’t think The Brewers are ALOT better than the Stros. Based on your pitching. Both staffs could be good and both could jsut as easily be terrible. for this reason neither team can be ALOT better than the other.
I think both have something to prove and should be better than expected. I actually beleive both will finish above the Reds (who every is loving right now)
Astros bullpen = The best in the Central (I sware no bias there)
by baggs on Apr 3, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't advocating for the Reds
Simply calling it as the link described it.
Personally, I think the Brewers are gonna have a tough fight but could get somewhere again this year.
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
by kirbir on Apr 3, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
clicked on the wrong reply
but I am not a fan of the stros, and haven’t been. BTW, here is Pecota’s standings for the central next year.
Central W-L RS RA AVG/ OBP/ SLG
Cubs 95-67 861 726 .271/.347/.432
Brewers 84-78 785 754 .258/.331/.426
Cardinals 83-79 787 767 .258/.333/.428
Reds 79-83 762 775 .257/.325/.421
Astros 69-93 704 811 .261/.321/.403
Pirates 64-98 709 875 .257/.324/.405
I can’t guarantee anything, but I feel quite confident in saying QED
I just sit back and root for the taser
by Hyatt on Apr 3, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One more thing
’07 Seattle Mariners- 794 RS 813 RA, 88-74 record
’08 Seattle Mariners- 671 RS 811 RA, 61-101 record
’08 Astros- 712 RS 743 RA, 86-76 record
I just sit back and root for the taser
by Hyatt on Apr 3, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pirates article
Saw a reference to a player named “Henry Henry”
The campus where I’m at now has, affiliated with a single department (okay, one was by personal relationship with a member of the department)
Henry McHenry
Ed Edston
Candy Clark
I also personally know a Lois Lane.
by PagsBrewCrew on Apr 3, 2009 1:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Also playing with Henry Henry in that game was David Davidson
jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner
by battlekow on Apr 3, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This just in...
Here is Baseball Prospectus’ take on the Brewers this year…
They have them finishing 2nd and winning 84 but missing the playoffs. It seems odd that they would rank them 18th in the league though…
#18: Milwaukee Brewers (79-83, 756 RS, 761 RA). Last year’s team returns down half a starting pitcher, as Yovani Gallardo slides into Ben Sheets’ slot and no one replaces CC Sabathia. So why such a big decline? The bullpen, shaky a year ago, looks even worse today, although I do like the idea of Carlos Villanueva throwing 110 innings in relief. The seven-righties-and-Prince plan doesn’t seem any better in the lineup today than it has the past two years, and while the defense is better than it was in 2007, it’s certainly not good. If I’m off here, it’s on the high side.
by backtocali on Apr 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
PECOTA has the Brewers winning 84
Sheehan, apparently using some other system (aka "guessing"), has them winning 79, as you can see in your quote above.
jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner
by battlekow on Apr 3, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on
90 comments in and no one said anything about that catch of Hart’s homer at spring training on the lovely lady he saved? You guys need to get in game shape by April 13 or those guys from Red Reporter are going to dominate us.
September 15: Not a bad little Monday
by molitorfan on Apr 4, 2009 2:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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| W | L | PCT | GB | STRK | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
St. Louis
|
91 | 71 | .561 | 0 | Lost 6 |
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Chicago
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83 | 78 | .515 | 7.5 | Lost 1 |
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Milwaukee
|
80 | 82 | .493 | 11 | Won 3 |
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Cincinnati
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78 | 84 | .481 | 13 | Won 2 |
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Houston
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74 | 88 | .456 | 17 | Lost 3 |
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Pittsburgh
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62 | 99 | .385 | 28.5 | Lost 2 |
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