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Monday's Frosty Mug

Some things to read while adjusting your optimism.

You're probably going to hear a fair amount of complaining about scheduling today, as the Brewers and Giants wait around to become the last two teams to open their 2009 schedules. Tom H. certainly wants the Brewers to play today.

The Brewer opener was pushed to tomorrow to give the Giants a day off between their last exhibition contest yesterday and their opener. Most teams schedule a day off for the middle of their opening series in case of weather, but the Giants are flying without that safety net, and it may become important because it's supposed to rain tomorrow. This week's series is the Brewers' only scheduled visit to San Francisco in 2009, meaning the game will either have to be played in poor conditions tomorrow or the Brewers and Giants will face a doubleheader in their first series of the year.

Weather could be an issue in other places as well. Today's White Sox/Royals game in Chicago has already been postponed, and there's talk of weather-related delays in Boston, St. Louis and Cincinnati.

When the Brewers finally do take the field, it will be 20 minutes later than previously expected. The Giants have pushed back the start time to allow for Opening Day festivities. Heaven forbid they'd start those before everyone is in their seats on a rainy day.

So, barring inclement weather, Jason Kendall will start his second season as the Brewers' catcher tomorrow. The second of how many, you ask? Well, Kendall says he'd like to play six seasons in Milwaukee, which would keep him in a Brewer uniform through his fortieth birthday and give him a good shot at being baseball's all time leader in games played at catcher.

When the Brewers finally do take the field, it will be without Trevor Hoffman, who will need more than 15 days to get ready to pitch in regular season games. He'll play catch today and take it from there. Murray Chass featured Hoffman in his look at closers in new places.

David Riske, however, will be there despite a dismal spring. Tom H. reports the Brewers have no plan to try to move Riske or hide him on the DL, but likely will not use him in important situations.

Alcides Escobar is getting a lot of attention as spring training comes to an end. Peter Gammons listed Escobar as one of the most impressive young players this spring and Prospects Paradise lists him as having the second best glove in the minors. A couple of other minor notes:

  • Beyond the Box Score says Caleb Gindl was 17 runs above average in the outfield last season.
  • They also rank Taylor Green as exactly average at Mat Gamel at two runs below average at third base.

I'm sure this will sound familiar to anyone who's been following the team for more than a few days, but Jon Heyman of Sports Illustrated thinks Rickie Weeks and Corey Hart could have breakout years in 2009.

Are these more relevant than the other projections? It's hard to say.

  • None of the 20 experts at ESPN picked the Brewers to make the playoffs. They also have the Crew 14th in their power rankings.
  • Of the eight at The Journal Sentinel, none picked the Brewers to win the Central and only Tom H. picked them to win the Wild Card. The eight predictions average out at 84.6 wins for the Crew.
  • 26 predictors at The Hardball Times were unanimous in picking the Cubs to win the Central. The Brewers finished third.
  • Ken Rosenthal has the Brewers finishing fourth.

Please hold for the deluge of other predictions, projections and rankings:

Ok, I'm going to stop there. There were at least a dozen more, probably more, but I think we've seen enough. My apologies if I missed yours. Think you can out-predict these guys? Then you should enter Red Reporter's prediction contest and Beyond The Box Score's 32 predictions. You also have until the end of the day today to get your picks in for The Brew Crew Ball Over/Under contest.

So what happens if the Brewers do underperform in 2009? Between the Green Pillars explores the possibilities of a fire sale, but even if the desire to sell off assets arises, there may not be many buyers out there.

Sounds like Cory Provus is quickly settling into what might be America's greatest job: spending the summer seated next to Bob Uecker. The JS takes a look at their developing partnership.

If given the opportunity to sum up why you're a Brewer fan in one paragraph, could you do it? As part of a project for The National Review, Michael E. Hartmann gave it a shot.

Elsewhere around baseball:

Cubs: Released Chad Gaudin.
Mariners: Placed Ichiro Suzuki on the DL with a bleeding ulcer.
Mets: Signed Gary Sheffield to a one year deal.
Rangers: Released Casey Daigle, perhaps best known for being Jennie Finch's husband. They also released Adam Melhuse.
Reds: Jonny Gomes will not make the Opening Roster and is undecided on reporting to AAA.
Rockies: Acquired Jason Hammel from the Rays for minor league pitcher Aneury Rodriguez.
White Sox: The team has postponed its home opener against the Royals due to snow. They've also become Jimmy Gobble's third team this spring.

I'm not sure how this impacts one's ability to continue to own an MLB franchise, but it can't be good: Rangers owner Tom Hicks has defaulted on over $500 million in debt. If you'd like to own the Rangers, get your checkbook ready.

Even after 100 years, some may never learn: Goat Riders of the Apocalypse has a poll asking Cub fans how many games the team will win in 2009, and not a single voter has gone below 90.

On the other side, someone is finally starting to poke holes in the notion that the Reds are going to make a sudden surge. Surprisingly, that someone is Reds beat writer Hal McCoy.

Maybe they need more sweet potatoes? Jason Giambi swears by them.

Sometimes I wonder if newspaper profiles are sparked by the discovery that someone else in the office doesn't know something: A few weeks after Tom H. followed a mention of Giants prospect Ryan Rohlinger with the phrase "whoever he is," Dave Boehler has a profile of the West Bend native.

I have four links left, and three of them are FanGraphs:

Oh, and you're never too old to play with Micro Machines.

Drink up.

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"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Apr 6, 2009 10:21 AM CDT reply actions  

I knew it was going to be big

When there was a delay!!!

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on Apr 6, 2009 10:23 AM CDT reply actions  

Remember that Jack Zduriencik guy?

What the hell?

The Mariners have abandonned, for now, any plans to have former No. 1 draft pick Phillippe Aumont continue in a starting role. As was the case with Brandon Morrow, a first-rounder from 2006 now serving as a full-time reliever, Aumont has made a swtich to the bullpen.

"We felt that this was a guy, who, if used in a relief role, could be on a real fast-track to the major leagues,‘’ [Zduriencik] said. "And we’re talking a real fast track.’’

In the end, Zduriencik said, it came down to whether the team was willing to wait several more years for Aumont to develop as a potential front-end starter for the rotation — never a guarantee — or go the more likely route of becoming a top bullpen arm in a much shorter timeframe.

Oh right, I forgot that the Mariners were one ace reliever away from being relevant.

jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner

by battlekow on Apr 6, 2009 10:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Not only that

But they also just drafted Josh Fields. Seriously, just weird.

jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner

by battlekow on Apr 6, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here's a thought that would be an interesting study.

Say you take two high-level pitching prospects with similar ability, 20 years old. You leave one as a starter and move the other to the bullpen with the hopes of fast-tracking him to the big leagues. By the time they’re 25, both guys may have developed the repertoire to be a big league starter, and both may be. But in the meantime, the reliever works his way up the ladder faster, helps his major league organization sooner and throws fewer pitches in the minors, decreasing the risk of injury.

Big time pitching prospects at low levels are already under really low pitch counts to minimize risk: usually 75-90 pitches. How much are they losing by moving into the bullpen, where they’ll throw more frequent 30 pitch outings?

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Apr 6, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

He may lower his risk of injury

But I feel like he would decrease his ability to pitch deep into games. I feel like the one who makes his way to the big leagues as a reliever would develop into a 5 or 6 inning starter.

by tcyoung on Apr 6, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Aumont won't be challenged to develop a third pitch, for one.

He also won’t build up his stamina, as tcyoung mentioned, or learn to pace himself. Not that he can’t go back to starting after relieving for awhile, but even if they pulled off turning him almost immediately into a successful reliever, the Mariners are bad team and they’re just making him more expensive while burning his service time being bad. And that’s assuming that it doesn’t hurt his ultimate development as a starter, just delay it.

jeff: but i shudder to think of the bullpen analogy to sending the runner

by battlekow on Apr 6, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's sort of what the Yankees have..

With Kennedy & Chamberlain…both drafted in ‘06. I think they’re finding that Kennedy is still not ready, and it’s been (and still is) a rocky road for Chamberlain towards becoming a starter after pitching in the bullpen in Triple A and the majors.

by TheBurningRom on Apr 6, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

They never disappoint

Headline: Mariners plan Safeco Field Redesign

You have to look closely near the top of the picture, but it’s worth it.

The artist formerly known as jihad.

by Jordan M on Apr 6, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Opening Day festivities

Is there going to be any sort of banner raising ceremony on Friday at Miller Park? That will definitely affect the time at which I stumble into the park.

by tcyoung on Apr 6, 2009 10:45 AM CDT reply actions  

That John Heyman article drummed up the Peavy to the Brewers rumor again:

Towers talked extensively this winter to the Braves and Cubs, two teams on Peavy’s original, informal list of teams he might consider (he has a full no-trade now, so it’s up to him). The Brewers have been mentioned as a possibility more recently, and they certainly have what it takes to pull off a deal (hot-shot shortstop prospect Alcides Escobar would be a nice start). Peavy supposedly much prefers the NL. As to whether Peavy would accept a deal to the Brewers … who knows?

Peavy’s contract is

2009…..$11 million
2010…..$15 million
2011…..$16 million
2012…..$17 million
2013*…$22 million

*Club option, with a $4 million buyout

No trade clause only lasts through 2010

by grant76 on Apr 6, 2009 10:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Wow

a rumor with no Boras connection from Heyman? What’s this world coming to?

I just sit back and root for the taser
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by Hyatt on Apr 6, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

San Diego is apparently slashing their payroll a lot. Like into the $40 million range. The team that gets Peavy will likely be the team that will give the most prospects.

I wouldn’t mind giving up Escobar and a guy like Odrozzi for him. We will free up $10 million from Cameron this year, and $10 million from Suppan next year. I know other guys need raises, but aces are tough to find, and we don’t have anybody close to helping in the minors.

by grant76 on Apr 6, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think that considering what we gave up to get CC

The price for Peavy will be higher. It would not surprise me if the Padres want Gamel and Escobar.
Also if we traded for Peavy we would probably have to trade somebody like Fielder to keep the payroll manageable.

by Saltire on Apr 6, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed..

Plus, I’d put more value on Escobar than Peavy at this point. Escobar is young and cheap, while Peavy is getting older (he’ll be 28 in May) and has questionable (at best) mechanics that don’t go hand in hand with a long healthy career.

If you trade Escobar, you almost have to keep Hardy…and that will be costly once he’s out of arbitration after next year.

by TheBurningRom on Apr 6, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Considering what we’re paying Soup, that looks like a deal.

I’d trade Escobar and a few lower guys for Peavy without blinking.

by warwick5s on Apr 6, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Once Agein

How does Soup’s contract make similar deals OK?

His bad contract should not be a barometer of what the Brewers should do financially.

by tcyoung on Apr 6, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Again

why did I throw an E in there?

by tcyoung on Apr 6, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Joe Morgan

Did anyone notice Joe Morgan talking after the game about how he thinks the Phillies have the resilience to bounce back? Even though they lost the game, he thinks they still have a chance to repeat as champs.

by tcyoung on Apr 6, 2009 11:56 AM CDT reply actions  

haha

Yea, I caught that. I’m glad he brought me back to reality because I counted the phillies out after that devastating loss.

by DoubleJ235 on Apr 6, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Weather update

The Redsox/Rays game is off today aswell which a pity since it was the best game of the day.

by Saltire on Apr 6, 2009 12:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Cub Castoff

Brewers should try and pick up Chad Gaudin, he’s an upgrade over McClung in the long relief role and they could then move McClung to a set up type position and dump DeFelice or Coffey if need be in a trade or waiver move.

by backtocali on Apr 6, 2009 12:06 PM CDT reply actions  

......

wtf? Dump DiFelice? Why? The sample size is too small to prove that he’s better than Gaudin, but it’s also too small to prove that he’s worse.

I’m kind of irrational when it comes to McClung, so I won’t respond to that, except for the fact that I don’t think he would have tried to pick off a pitcher who runs bases at the speed of the two oldest Molina brothers in a three-legged race….

by morineko on Apr 6, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Gabes in TB

The Grapler…(gasps)

by Magellan on Apr 6, 2009 1:12 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

Nice

Somebody’s Gellin’!

by tcyoung on Apr 6, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

wtf DeFelice

He’s a 32 year old rookie with below average stuff. There is a reason he is a 32 year old rookie. Guys like that tend to get figured out very fast. If you are fine with him, when he has a 5+ ERA dont say I didnt tell you so.

I like McClung, if he could improve his curveball he would be an awesome closer.

by backtocali on Apr 6, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok, admittedly, I like DiFelice more than most rational people.

But I also think he’s better than you give him credit for, and as long as he hasn’t been figured out yet, I want to keep him.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Apr 6, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Grrrr..

MLB is having a pretty horrible day gameday audio wise. I can’t listen to Cle @ Tex on my PC, but it was working fine on the iPhone @Bat. Now both are coming up with errors… Reds game is fine.

Frustrating… especially since Cliff Lee took a ball off his pitching arm and then sucked.. Jack Z is supposed to be coming in.

by SgtClueLs on Apr 6, 2009 1:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Reds

They have Laynce Nix on their opening day roster and it’s not because of injury. Terrifying.

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by TheJay on Apr 6, 2009 4:45 PM CDT reply actions  

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