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Minor League Notes - 05/12/2009

Top Prospects:

BatterTeamPosABRHRBIWKEAVGNotes
Escobar, AlcidesNashvilleSS5011010.258
Escobar, AlcidesNashvilleSS5011010.258
Gamel, MatNashville3B3100100.330
Lucroy, JonathanHuntsvilleC4000110.256
Gillespie, ColeNashvilleLF3021100.1632 2B
PitcherTeamIPHRERWKHRERADecNotes
Jeffress, JeremyHuntsville1.74665117.04(L, 1-2)Game Score: 19

Top Performers:

BatterTeamPosABRHRBIWKEAVGNotes
Stern, AdamHuntsvilleCF5141000.3602 2B
Anderson, DrewHuntsvilleLF4130100.3752B
Bourgeois, JasonNashvilleRF3112110.2963B
Iribarren, HernanNashville2B3220100.327
Gindl, CalebBrevardRF4122010.325
PitcherTeamIPHRERWKHRERADecNotes
Burns, MikeNashville6.03001702.27(W, 5-0)Game Score: 72
Narveson, ChrisNashville3.00000204.58(S, 4)
McClendon, MichaelHuntsville3.31000101.52
Rapoza, BrandonBrevard2.30000100.00
Baron, CaseyHuntsville2.00000201.20

 

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Nashville Sounds (Triple-A) - 18-15
Won 5-0 vs Reno Aces (ARI) (box / pbp)

BatterPosABRHRBIWKEAVGNotes
Gwynn Jr., TonyCF4110110.3113B
Escobar, AlcidesSS5011010.258
Gamel, Mat3B3100100.330
Koshansky, Joseph1B4000030.196
Rivera, MikeC4010020.125
Iribarren, Hernan2B3220100.327
Bourgeois, JasonRF3112110.2963B
Gillespie, ColeLF3021100.1632 2B
Almonte, ErickPH1000000.302
Narveson, ChrisP1000010.000
Escobar, AlcidesSS5011010.258

PitcherIPHRERWKHRERADecNotes
Burns, Mike6.03001702.27(W, 5-0)Game Score: 72
Narveson, Chris3.00000204.58(S, 4)

Huntsville Stars (Double-A) - 15-13
Lost 6-3 vs Chattanooga Lookouts (LAD) (box / pbp)

BatterPosABRHRBIWKEAVGNotes
Stern, AdamCF5141000.3602 2B
Heether, AdamSS3001101.313
Melillo, Kevin3B4000120.264
Lucroy, JonathanC4000110.256
Anderson, DrewLF4130100.3752B
Rottino, Vinny1B5120010.258
Caufield, ChuckieRF4010010.227
Raburn, John2B4010000.180
McClendon, MichaelP1000000.200
Justis, ShanePH1000010.256
Parejo, FreddyPH1000000.214

PitcherIPHRERWKHRERADecNotes
Jeffress, Jeremy1.74665117.04(L, 1-2)Game Score: 19
McClendon, Michael3.31000101.52
Ellison, Derrick1.01000203.31
Baron, Casey2.00000201.20
Sandoval, Juan1.00000103.00

Brevard County Manatees (High-A) - 22-10
Lost 7-3 vs Clearwater Threshers (PHI) (box / pbp)

BatterPosABRHRBIWKEAVGNotes
Haydel, LeeCF5120030.313
Farris, EricDH3000100.267
Gindl, CalebRF4122010.325
Wilson, SteffanLF3000110.286
Wheeler, Zelous2B2001100.260
Errecart, Christopher1B3010120.294
Brewer, BrentSS4000031.198
Miranda, Sergio3B3010120.299
Delarosa, AndersonC4110021.176

PitcherIPHRERWKHRERADecNotes
Rogers, Mark1.73322101.80Game Score: 38
Rapoza, Brandon2.30000100.00
Luetge, Lucas2.03221206.12(L, 2-2)
Almonte, Rigoberto1.72223303.60
Mercedes, Roque1.31000301.06

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Jeffress

rough night at the office.

by molitorfan on May 13, 2009 7:17 AM CDT reply actions  

Does the community still agree that he belongs as our #3 prospect?

by Saberilliterate on May 13, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have a hard time considering him a top prospect

Throwing 100 mph is great, but if you can’t throw the ball over the plate whose gonna swing at it? Turnbow could throw hard too.

Maybe he needs some glasses a la Ricky Vaughn

"my goodness"

by BrewHaHeather on May 13, 2009 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

We went through this after his last start, but...

He’s 21. He’s striking out double-digits per nine in double-A, which is packed with prospects his own age and older, and hitters with way more college/pro experience than he has.

When Randy Johnson was 23, he walked 128 guys in 140 innings. He had similar stuff and similar problems, and he turned out ok.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on May 13, 2009 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

good to put it in perspective

Is it possible he shouldn’t be in AA but High A and take it slower? If he is getting shelled, should he move through the system slower? I know moving him down isn’t exactly a confidence booster for a talent like him- but maybe don’t move him up automatically every year if he doesn’t bring it together at that level.

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on May 13, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

nah

he did just fine at hi-A. He’s really just had a couple of bad outings. People were starting to fret because of his short outings early on, but those were more pitch-count driven.

Just remember — look at the K rate! If a starter is K’ing 12 per nine, he’s doing a lot of things right. He’s also only given up one HR. The walks aren’t helping, but he’s also allowing a .393 BABIP against, something that he almost certainly doesn’t deserve.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on May 13, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

When the bb/9 = k/9 doesn’t that cancel out the positive of the k/99?

My guess would be that his BABIP is as high as it is because he has to groove a BP fastball down the middle of the plate to prevent walking anymore hitters… but that is pure speculation.

by Saberilliterate on May 13, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

That was my point with Randy before

bb-ref doesn’t have K numbers, but I’ll bet Randy’s K/9 was really high, and so was his BB/9.

If he were grooving BP fastballs, two things would happen:
1. he wouldn’t walk so many guys
2. his LD% would probably be higher than 15%.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on May 13, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm all for being patient with Jeffress

But Jeffress has a lot more in common with someone like Scott Kazmir than Randy Johnson. Johnson is freakishly tall, which means his mechanics were quite a bit harder to iron out than Jeffress’. Johnson’s wildness was basically a result of learning how to pitch while being seven feet tall. Sure, it took him 10 years, but once he did, he actually didn’t walk very many people. It doesn’t seem like a very useful comparison.

Kazmir, on the other hand, was always wild and continued to be both wild and very effective in the Majors (until recently). I doubt Jeffress is ever going to have anything better than average control.

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on May 13, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

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