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This Season Vs. The Future

 I am writing this in response to the possible idea of the Brewers again trading future talent for a more successful team today. As we continue to throw around different possible scenarios for getting a good substitute rental for Rickie this year and different journalists rumble about possible Peavy trades, my question that I ask to all of you is how willing are you all to sacrifice potential talent tomorrow for a real shot today?

 

 

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Obviously we can't trade away our entire system for a one year rental and while the trade for CC ultimately propelled us into the playoffs at the expense of our number one prospect at what point do we stop saying we will be good tomorrow and start making moves that works for success today.

I am not sure if I speak for everyone when I say this but I think the last 5-10 of this franchise can be summed up with the thoughts of hope for the distant or not so distant future where our talented prospects would emerge and help us regain some pride for the organization. For me the time may be now or at least very fast approaching. As alot of people have mentioned much of our young talent is reaching contract age and existing as a smaller market it is unreasonable to think that we will be able to keep the team that we have now for the long haul as many budding stars will expect big pay outs.

Does anyone feel as if we may want to make a push using a high prospect (Escobar or Jeffrey) as the last catapult to make a serious playoff run? The reason I bring up this is because a recent article by SI suggests that Jake Peavy's most likely destinations are either MIL or CHI. While the article doesn't give alot of insider info it got me to questioning if our organization will be ok with continuing to grow young talent, achieve a decent level of success, only to see may pieces sign elsewhere and restart the process all over again.

It is clear to most that with the contracts of Hardy, Fielder, Weeks, and Hart in the foreseeable future that we will not keep everyone in the upcoming years. It’s my thought that while we still have all of this talent in the field we should make a push to pass the field of the good and mediocre and attempt to make the level of the NL Elite. While we all can be happy with the performance our pitching staff has done this far this year with the losses of CC and Sheets it is fair to say that this success will most likely not last and in a 5 or 7 game series we do not have the lockdown ace needed to pencil in a W in a crucial game.

This all accumulates to my thought of trading for Peavy. I know it will deplete our farm system even more having already sustained the loss of LaPorta and the call up of Gamel, but it would appear that finally we have alot of the pieces needed at the Major league level where we have some time to regain depth on the farm. Looking towards the next year or two all signs point to us losing Prince Fielder to trade or free agency, this would ultimately release some money and also possibly replenish a depleted farm system. Trading for Peavy would benefit two fold because it would give us an Ace for years to come and keep him away from the Cubs which with him would have undoubtedly the best pitching staff in the NL, lowering our chances of the playoffs significantly.

I call for the Brewers to make the trade this year for Peavy that hopefully propels us out of the land of mediocrity and into a level of contention, something we have not seen around here in a long, long time.

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CC vs. Peavy

Sabathia, Peavy (career numbers)
Age: 28, 27
Seasons: 9, 8
Innings: 1722, 1328
Innings per start: 6.5, 6.4
Shutouts: 11, 3
CGs: 28, 7
ERA: 3.65, 3.26
ERA+: 121, 120
WHIP: 1.24, 1,18
K/9: 7.5, 9.0
K/BB: 2.64 :3.10
CYs: 1,1 (both in 2007)

CC goes a little deeper into games, some of which is probably his build and having played in the AL. Otherwise, I think these guys are pretty comparable. Both are in the prime of their careers, both have had tremendous success in the regular season and no so much success in the postseason. If you asked me in Spring 2008, whom I’d rather have, I’d have said Peavy. If you’d asked me in Spring 2009, I’d have said CC, mainly because he was among the most likable Brewers ever, but I would have been worried about the workload we put on his arm.

So, we were willing to give up Laporta last year for a CC rental. We’d have Peavy for an additional three years. They would be expensive years, but we were willing to offer $100M to CC for 4-5 years, I think we could handle $63 to Peavy for three prime-aged years. I would never expect Peavy (or anyone) to be able to duplicate CCs performance last year, but Gallardo and Peavy in the playoffs would be a really nice 1-2.

I am certainly willing to give up Jeffries. Would I part with either Escobar or Gamel? I don’t know. One reason we were willing to part with Laporta was because we had Gamel, so Gamel’s value is higher because he’s scarce. Neither player has an obvious position for next year though. I don’t know. If Rickey didn’t just tear up his wrist, I would certainly be willing to part with one of them. But if Peavy wants to come, I’m not sure we’d have to give one of them up.

by keephopealive on May 23, 2009 10:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s too bad Hardy is dinged up and Counsell is already playing a ton, otherwise I’d say Jeffress & Escobar for Peavy would be a no-brainer.

by warwick5s on May 24, 2009 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I for one...

Am still not sold on Peavy. He has scary (in a very bad way) arm mechanics…he’s spent his career pitching in a pitcher’s park…and the money he is due over the next few years is substantial (esp for a small market team), which is one of the reasons the Padres are trying to move him in the first place.

I also do not buy into the notion that you have to trade for someone to make a playoff push. Yes, teams do it…yes, we did it last year. But, not every team has to, and the Brewers may very well have a team this year that won’t have to move young talent for a rental to make the playoffs.

I also don’t believe that once Weeks/Fielder/Hart/Hardy are gone that the team will lose it’s shot at the playoffs. There are many prospects in the organization that are 1yr-2yrs away from the big leagues…prospects that should be able to fill the void of any departure…barring any setbacks in their development.

Oh, and FWIW, I read that Heyman article about Peavy. Take it with a grain of salt, because he’s usually not the best source of info unless a Boras client is the subject.

by TheBurningRom on May 24, 2009 8:56 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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