Tuesday's Frosty Mug
by KLSnow on Jun 2, 2009 8:38 AM CDT
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Some things to read while watching out for whammies. (h/t C. Trent Rosecrans)
With any luck, this could be the last morning I'll ever have to wake up and discuss a disastrous Jorge Julio outing. Here are what some others are saying about him:
- Quevedo at the Buffet wants him gone.
- Brewed Sports wants him gone.
- CZWief wants him gone.
- Between the Green Pillars wants him gone.
Julio did, however, become just the second pitcher named Jorge to hit a batter named Jorge in MLB history. So there is that. Jorge Cantu, by the way, was the victim in the other case too, getting hit by Jorge de la Rosa.
But, it might all be over today. The Official Site says the team is expected to call up a pitcher and it could be Mike Burns, who is 6-2 with a 2.98 ERA for Nashville. It won't be David Riske, who will undergo Tommy John surgery today.
Even with Julio's disaster last night, the Brewers had too many opportunities to come away with just four runs, including one inning where Prince Fielder and Mike Cameron both made outs on the bases, with Fielder getting caught trying to steal third.
Also, Mike Cameron and Ryan Braun left last night's game early with injuries suffered in the sixth inning. Cameron is suffering from "knee irritation" and is day-to-day, while Braun says he's fine after fouling a ball off his leg.
Meanwhile, the Marlins will make a couple of roster moves before tonight's game. Cristhian Martinez, who won last night's game, has been optioned to AA to make room for Anibal Sanchez, who is expected to start tonight. They also optioned catcher Brett Hayes to AAA and are expected to recall Alejandro de Aza. (hat tips to Fish Chunks and TheJay in last night's recap)
Could Corey Hart be on the move? The Detroit Free Press mentioned a quote from Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe suggesting the Tigers might be one of several teams interested. Tom H.'s Twitter, however, said Doug Melvin called the notion "pure nonsense." Just another case of Cafardo being Cafardo.
Here's something cool from down in the minors: At The Old Ball Game has frame-by-frame photos of the delivery of Joshua Butler, who's quickly regaining prospect status this season.
Need your daily draft fix? Andy Seiler has a new mock draft of the first three rounds, and has the Brewers selecting RHP Drew Storen (Stanford), 3B Matt Davidson (California HS), RHP Alex Wilson (Texas A&M), SS Daniel Fields (Michigan HS), 2B Josh Kobernus (U. of California) and RHP Eric Smith (Rhode Island).
On Power Rankings:
- Inside the Majors has the Brewers holding steady at #3.
- Richard Griffin of the Toronto Star moved the Brewers up from ninth to sixth.
- Foul Balls moved the Brewers down from third to fourth in the NL, but kept them at #6 overall.
- WhatifSports moved the Brewers up from seventh to fifth.
The Brewers are asking you to help them make Miller Park a better place to watch a game, one belligerent drunk at a time. Follow this link to learn how to text security re: that douchebag in your section. Extra points for the first person who uses it to report/eject The Happy Youngster.
Around the league:
Giants: Designated reliever Pat Misch for assignment.
Indians: Released David Dellucci.
Mets: Placed Angel Pagan on the DL with a groin strain.
Phillies: Mike Koplove exercised a clause in his contract allowing him to become a free agent.
The Reds bullpen got a bit of a workout last night too. Edinson Volquez, in his first start back off the DL, left after one inning with numbness in his pinkie and ring fingers. Hal McCoy says Volquez is headed back to Cincinnati to get it checked out but does not believe it's serious.
Yesterday might have been Manny Acta's last game as manager of the Washington Nationals. Chico Harlan has a quote from Nats acting GM Mike Rizzo that he thinks implies Acta could be done.
Sean Berry, though, is back with the Astros after surgery to have cancer removed from his kidney. Good to see he's back and doing well.
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Oh, and I only got four of the answers on Keith Law's stolen base quiz, but in my defense, I took it at 6:35 am.
Drink up.
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Joshua Butler
Butler came over in the Gross trade, right?
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Jun 2, 2009 9:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Would be pretty exciting
if he really turned out to be something special. Seems to be going through a DiFelice-style revival…I was surprised that he jumped straight to AAA though.
by Wayfaerer on Jun 2, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's our Randy Choate!
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
by Hyatt on Jun 2, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't seen this said anywhere
But, since he was called up to start a game in a doubleheader and came straight up from high-A, I think he was probably called up to make a spot start, and will either be returned to Brevard County or sent to Huntsville before his next start.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by KLSnow on Jun 2, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's making another start in Nashville and then going to Huntsville
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like Mike Burns is going to be called up
Based on a couple of conversations last night, I would be very surprised if 30-year-old Mike Burns doesn’t get the call-up from Nashville.He hasn’t been in the big leagues since 2006 with Cincinnati and Boston.
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 9:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
at least this next guy to get shelled isn't making Julio money.
Or he could be, way too early to look that kind of stuff up.
by Mykenk on Jun 2, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'd still have to pay Julio's salary
Burns would make the minimum.
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, yeah...
… but I expect better results from a player with a higher salary than one at the minimum. In other words, if Burns gets shellacked, I won’t be nearly as upset.
Maybe.
by Mykenk on Jun 2, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bye bye Hoolio, we hardly (wished we ever) knew you
You’ve got to be really underperforming when a mid-market team will eat a million dollar contract just to get rid of you. I’m glad to see Macha won’t have to make such Yostian decisions regarding the best use of such a wild bullpen pitcher, anymore.
Such a shame about Riske. Do the Brewers still have him under contract for next year or are they paying solely for a rehab season for him before he moves on to greener pastures? Such is the luck of baseball sometimes.
by ecocd on Jun 2, 2009 9:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Brewers...
Have Riske for one more year.
by TheBurningRom on Jun 2, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Assuming his can rehab. If it’s TJ it’s usually a full year, he might offer us little to nothing.
by SgtClueLs on Jun 2, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As McCalvy said on Twitter
Brewers’ Riske to have TJ surgery. This is why they suggested it six weeks ago, so he could be ready for Spring Training. Now he’ll push it.
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't know if Burns will be any less wild than Julio.
by Mykenk on Jun 2, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure we do
The highest walk rate Burns has ever posted is 2.6 per 9.
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Julio gone?
Or is DiFelice going to go on the DL to make room for Burns?
by Supertramp on Jun 2, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remains to be seen
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
McCalvy said..
… Macha wants to give him “one more day…” doesn’t sound like a DL stint, imo
by Mykenk on Jun 2, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Stairs
Raise your hand if you realized Stairs has 257 career homers.
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 9:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He started for a while in Oakland and Toronto
257 is higher than I would have guessed, though.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Jun 2, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How long til he gets 250 SB?!
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Jun 2, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At current pace
Around midseason 2144.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by KLSnow on Jun 2, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll be a member of the exclusive 250-250-250 club
250 homers and 250 stolen bases in 250 years.
http://nohuddleoffense.blogspot.com
by No Huddle Offense on Jun 2, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew he'd been around awhile
…but since 1895?
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Burns and the 40 man roster
A spot would need to be cleared on the 25 man roster which obviously would be Julio, but would he also be removed from the 40 man roster to make room for Burns?
by grant76 on Jun 2, 2009 9:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's possible I missed it
But I don’t think Chris Capuano or Alex Periard were ever placed on the 60-day DL. Either could feasibly be moved.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by KLSnow on Jun 2, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
(to the DL, that is)
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by KLSnow on Jun 2, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Capuano's not on the 40-man
The Brewers re-signed him to a minor league deal. Riske is another option to be moved to the 60-day DL.
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weeks
As well, I believe he is still on the 15 Day DL.
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by MadJimiBrewha on Jun 2, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
Somehow I missed that 4 comments ago…reading fail
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by MadJimiBrewha on Jun 2, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I emailed McCalvy to ask about it
And he said all of those guys could be moved to the 60-day DL, but Melvin said there’s no advantage to doing it until you have to, so no moves will be made until spots are needed.
With that said, you’d think the Brewers would be more active with waiver claims and whatnot, seeing as they have three spots on the 40-man roster that could be opened up on a moment’s notice.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by KLSnow on Jun 2, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't seen anybody on waivers worth picking up
It’s not big-time waiver season, either.
Plus, the pitching situation at Nashville is pretty crowded. Room could be made, but that’s always a consideration — it’s one thing to have roster space, but if the guy isn’t better than [mike burns / rj swindle / chris smith / etc] no reason to bump a guy from the AAA roster.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 2, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't have a ton of examples off the top of my head
But I specifically remember Brayan Pena being DFA’d by the Royals. He’s a cheap young catcher who’s posted OPS between .750 and .900 each of the last five seasons in AAA. If a guy like that is available, could back up Salome at C and play 1B on days when Salome catches, why would you instead decide to keep a guy who won’t pitch in 2009 on your 40-man roster?
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by KLSnow on Jun 2, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would've been plausible.
My guess is that the Brewers don’t like his defense, which makes him, basically, Vinny Rottino.
I haven’t the foggiest idea of how good a defender he is (Rotoworld says “merely adequate”), but I understand the desire (if that’s what caused the lack of interest) to have a defense-first catcher in reserve in AAA ready on a moment’s notice. Corporan would’ve been bumped.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 2, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if they're keeping spots open for trades down the line?
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by TheJay on Jun 2, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
(At least) three of them?
I mean, I acknowledge the possibility, but that’s kind of like carrying a fourth catcher in case three get hurt in the same game.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by KLSnow on Jun 2, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather not fill up the roster just for the sake of filling up the roster
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by TheJay on Jun 2, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brewers block parties this year
All parties begin at 11 a.m. and will end by 1 p.m.Here is the schedule:
1. Saturday, June 27 at Village Park in Brown Deer, 4800 W. Green Brook Drive.
2. Saturday, July 11 at Kern Park, 3614 N. Humboldt Blvd.
3. Saturday, Aug. 15 at Hart Park in Wauwatosa, 7300 Chestnut St.The list of specific player appearances will be announced the week of each event. Each party will have a brief question and answer period and an autograph session.
In addition to players, the parties will include appearances by Bernie Brewer and the Racing Sausages, and Brewers radio and television personalities. Free hot dogs, soda and potato chips will be provided for roughly 300 people.
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 10:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's done, Julio Released per Haudricourt
by Mykenk on Jun 2, 2009 10:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
great
The team is now better, and I can’t keep blaming thigns that have gone wrong this morning on Julio as he is no longer a Brewer
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
by Kyguy922 on Jun 2, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mostly, I'm just glad DiFelice doesn't need to go on the DL
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
about time
There’s no place on a pennant-chasing world series possible team for a gascan like Julio
by warwick5s on Jun 2, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but there is for a journey-man who's never done a thing above AAA?
by Mykenk on Jun 2, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you saying you rather have Julio screwing up innings and games?
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
by Hyatt on Jun 2, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No. I'm saying Burns is a complete unknown.
his career MLB numbers, while a relatively small sample size, are worse than Julio’s, so why act like we’re so sure he’ll be better than Julio? If anything, the stats say he’ll be a totally different kind of suck.
As long as he’s used in the mop-up/blow-out’s ONLY, we’ll be okay. Then again, if we only used Julio in those situations, we were okay with him too.
by Mykenk on Jun 2, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's a matter of knowns and unknowns
We know Julio is going to suck. We don’t know for sure if this guy is going to suck. It may be a lightening in a bottle situation considering how good he’s pitching. Julio cost us and would continue to cost us games, we don’t know if this guy will, which makes him a better option.
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
by Hyatt on Jun 2, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Until he shows no better than Julio, why not?
It’s wrong to expect him to be great out of the pen, but I’ll take a flyer on a guy who doesn’t walk the ballpark even when he’s on.
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by kirbir on Jun 2, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree... I just took issue with the tone...
“there’s no place on a pennant-chasing world series possible team” makes it sound like warwick wants everyone to be a superstar
by Mykenk on Jun 2, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah, of course not
you just can’t have a guy that you can’t trust with less than a 5 run lead
someone like Burns, maybe he’s replacement level, maybe he’s a little better and it’s a good find, and maybe he’s outmatched and you send him right back to AAA and try again. For your mop-up last-choice guy you don’t need much, and you should be able to find it eventually, but you need the flexibility to find it that Julio didn’t offer.
by warwick5s on Jun 2, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
You’ve got to have cheap replacement-level pitching somewhere in the organization, simply by definition of replacement-level, right? As long as the Crew was unwilling to eat Julio’s contract, we’d be stuck with his below-replacement line.
by Brew Angel on Jun 2, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still contend that Julio did fine in the mop-up last choice guy role...
… but Macha took him out of that role last night, and, well, we all know what happened.
by Mykenk on Jun 2, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree.
A guy who would be “just fine” in that role is a guy who throws a lot of strikes and can eat multiple innings when needed. Julio was finding it very hard to throw strikes, and running up his pitch count caused him to frequently be pulled early. Julio averaged about 19.1 pitches per inning in 2009.
A great mop-up guy doesn’t necessarily need to post a sub-2.00 ERA, but it’d be nice if he threw enough strikes that he didn’t walk (or hit) three guys before allowing the home run. Julio is not that guy. Maybe Burns will be, and maybe he won’t, but when you’re replacing a guy with an ERA around 8, the bar is set pretty low.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by KLSnow on Jun 2, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe dougie is keeping the minimum players he can get away with on the 40man
so he can do some playoff roster substitution trickery. That’s kinda planning a lot in advance, and you really don’t need more than one slot available for that. But alas.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 2, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy Crap
does Josh Butler’s mom know that there are pictures of his delivery on the Internet?
"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."
by molitorfan on Jun 2, 2009 9:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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| W | L | PCT | GB | STRK | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
St. Louis
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91 | 71 | .561 | 0 | Lost 6 |
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Chicago
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83 | 78 | .515 | 7.5 | Lost 1 |
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Milwaukee
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80 | 82 | .493 | 11 | Won 3 |
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Cincinnati
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78 | 84 | .481 | 13 | Won 2 |
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Houston
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74 | 88 | .456 | 17 | Lost 3 |
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Pittsburgh
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62 | 99 | .385 | 28.5 | Lost 2 |
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