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Ken Macha didn't actually say much to Manny Parra tonight. His terrible gas did all the talking.

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Ken Macha didn't actually say much to Manny Parra tonight. His terrible gas did all the talking.

W: Burke Badenhop (4-2)
L: Manny Parra (3-7)

HR: Dan Uggla (10), Cody Ross (8), Corey Hart (6)

MVP: Ryan Braun (+.062)
LVP: Manny Parra (-.385)

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Manny Parra sucked tonight, allowing ten earned runs on eleven hits and two walks in four innings. It's finally gotten bad enough that one has to question Parra's continued spot in the rotation: Parra has allowed 21 earned runs in his last three starts, and was left out there to soak in it for a while tonight after a one-on-one mound meeting with Ken Macha.

If you saw tonight's game you already know how much it sucked, so let's try to shine some light on the positives:

  • Jody Gerut singled in the second, stole second to break the Brewers' long streak without a stolen base, then stole third and scored on Manny Parra's sac fly.
  • Mike Burns saved the bullpen by pitching four scoreless innings of relief in his Brewers debut.
  • Ryan Braun, after leaving last night's game early, was able to play the full game and went 1-for-3 with a walk.
  • Corey Hart picked up a meaningless two-run shot in the ninth to close the gap to seven runs.

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It did.

Thankfully, the top of the 9th was pretty long.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by KLSnow on Jun 2, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mike Burns

Wouldn’t that be his Brewer debut?

It is what it is.

by coolig on Jun 2, 2009 9:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fixed

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

a measly -.404

on any other day, that would be a file not found. curse you, florida rains!

by sowingwildoats on Jun 2, 2009 9:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Including his batting performance.

I forgot about his sac fly.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by KLSnow on Jun 2, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

AP photographers

There must be a minimum name loopiness to be hired. Either a first initial middle name deal, or blah-de-blah the second, or just flat-out weird names.

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by TheJay on Jun 2, 2009 9:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Peavy getting roughed up

even trade for parra? eh? eh?

by Wizzyconsin on Jun 2, 2009 9:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

aw, nuts, I was just going to post that

Grass: not really greener on other side.

(Antonio Bastardo is pitching for the Phillies. Best Name Ever.)

by morineko on Jun 2, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you definitely win

But this one is pretty good too.

"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"

RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving

by kirbir on Jun 3, 2009 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I named a fantasy team after him

won the championship too

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jun 3, 2009 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well that was an abomination

Thank god I was able to find tomorrow’s video already

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jun 2, 2009 9:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

one good thing

I was finally able to watch the Total Eclipse of the Heart video. Very good stuff.

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 2, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

that video was great

"my goodness"

by BrewHaHeather on Jun 2, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

On a side note

Ill be up in MKE for the week after the fourth of july and im pretty excited to see Hoffman pitch for the brewers. I saw him a few times closing out for the Padres but from what I’m hearing, the brew crew gives him a much better (louder) intro.

by Wizzyconsin on Jun 2, 2009 9:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Trevor Hoffman pitching

is the most electric atmospere I’ve ever experienced at Miller Park

"my goodness"

by BrewHaHeather on Jun 2, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This.

It is what it is.

by coolig on Jun 2, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bigger than

the first playoff game in 26 years? I flew up for that game and I didnt think that could be topped.

by Wizzyconsin on Jun 2, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn't there for that

but of the many games that I’ve been to, the crowd has never been so into every single pitch. It is really loud, and really exciting. I hope you get to se him pitch

"my goodness"

by BrewHaHeather on Jun 2, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

One caller on WSSP

said he could hear Hell’s Bells from Miller Park Way

I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 2, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Considering

we play the cards and the dodgers while i’m in town, I’ll probably be lucky to see him. Hoffmans into in SD was pretty tame when I saw it. Still louder than any other closers ive seen but nothing of note like what i’ve been hearing.

by Wizzyconsin on Jun 2, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wouldn't that make you

more likely to see him?

I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 2, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

assuming

they pick up their play against STL and LA cools off.

by Wizzyconsin on Jun 2, 2009 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Playoff game victory by far.

We remained standing in the bleachers for just about every single pitch.

After the game, people stood atop the ramps watching people leave and cheering.

Overlooking the ramps

Photobucket

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jun 2, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Paging Mr. Dillard

Mr. Tim Dillard, please pick up on line two. Thank you.

by ecocd on Jun 2, 2009 9:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Braves have the winning run on third in the bottom of the 11th with two outs

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 9:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

To the 12th they go

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not anymore

liner caught by Fukudome

"my goodness"

by BrewHaHeather on Jun 2, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs with one position player left

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by TheJay on Jun 2, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's too bad Neal Cotts is gone

He probably would have been useful in LF.

by morineko on Jun 2, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, the guy they have left is Jake Fox

Rumor says “position player” is a misnomer.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Jun 2, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DH

is a position. Unfortunately not in the NL.

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 2, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

speaking of oddly used pitchers

Todd Wellemeyer is pinch-hitting right now.

by morineko on Jun 2, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kris Medlen of the Braves pinch-ran tonight

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by TheJay on Jun 2, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tommy Hanson could've done that

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Schadenfreude

Video of Frenchy’s two-out, two-run game-tying homer from the bottom of the 9th.

Gregg’d.

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the clean cut guys politely clapping

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by TheJay on Jun 2, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hart and Burns combined for +.001 WPA

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 9:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The one positive tonight = Mike Burns

Nothing overbearing in his appearance but he saved the pen tonight and established that he can do something up here hopefully making a strong pen even stronger.

I think if Burns is able to establish himself up here the next few weeks we are a little more free to trade someone from our pen like Carlos V or Seth McClung along with a Manny Parra or Corey Hart for a very quality player in return

good to see Gamel reestablishing himself though a little bit, hopefully thats a start to something good . . .

Ring Out Ahoya!

by bleedbluegold03 on Jun 2, 2009 9:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, Burns' presence turned it from a disaster into simply an embarrassing loss

Baseball’s great because you get a fresh chance almost every day, but it’s hard to look at that way when your bullpen is getting torched.

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I highly doubt

Melvin will trade any piece of the 25 man roster away. Probably only if what is recieved is better than and directly replaces what is given up.

It is what it is.

by coolig on Jun 2, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gamel and Escobar

are more valuable than some pieces on this roster right now. I know right now is an exception with our pen but we are REALLY deep in the pen to the point where good guys aren’t getting time. Good problem to have

Ring Out Ahoya!

by bleedbluegold03 on Jun 2, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also a good problem to have

in August and September

It is what it is.

by coolig on Jun 2, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no

not on the compliments to Burns and Gamel, but to everything else. Other than Parra, the rest of our team is very solid. Why do we need to talk about trading away anyone. Especially not McClung and Villa, who have been pretty damn good.

"my goodness"

by BrewHaHeather on Jun 2, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nooo

Villanueva is the most underrated player on the team.

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Jun 2, 2009 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Braves win!

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 9:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Len Kasper says "probably the toughest loss of the year for the Cubs"

Like aloe on a burn.

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

.500 again?

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jun 2, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that was

a hell of a hit by chipper.

by Wizzyconsin on Jun 2, 2009 9:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Love it!

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 2, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

L.W. "Chipper" Jones wins it

RBI single on a 3-2 pitch with first base open.

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by TheJay on Jun 2, 2009 9:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Poll idea:

Should Parra be moved to the pen and who should replace him in the rotation?

Personally, I’d like to see CV get another shot as a starter.

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Jun 2, 2009 9:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If Parra's out as a starter, he needs to go to AAA and continue to start regularly

Going to the bullpen isn’t going to help him at all.

I think Villanueva has started his last game for the Brewers and that Dillard and McClung are the next guys in line if Parra gets the axe.

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right

Parra needs to figure out his problems while starting, and with a WHIP inching closer and closer to 2, I’m thinking AAA is the place.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 2, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

either he goes to AAA or I will have to go to AA

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 3, 2009 6:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two problems

First, how do you get him stretched out to start

Second, you make the pen much worse and risk not really improving the rotation

It is what it is.

by coolig on Jun 2, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN bottom line:

“Brewers P David Riske to have elbow surgery could miss remainder of season”

top notch there

It is what it is.

by coolig on Jun 2, 2009 9:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he also is the third highest paid Brewers' pitcher this year

behind only Suppan’s $12.5 million and Hoffman’s $6.25. some how we are paying him over $4 million…

Ring Out Ahoya!

by bleedbluegold03 on Jun 2, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really enjoy

watching the cubs lose on WGN. Those announcers are so whiny and come up with some pretty priceless excuses. Its also like theyre completely unprepared to witness a loss.

by Wizzyconsin on Jun 2, 2009 10:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Parra is still the second best pitcher on the team by tRA

He’s been very unlucky by the metric.

http://statcorner.com/team.php?team=MIL&year=2009&leag=N_L

Whereas Suppan is the 4th worst pitcher in the NL.

http://statcorner.com/leader.php?type=2&year=2008&leag=MLB&limit=300

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by Jack Moore on Jun 2, 2009 10:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I said this last week :)

He’s been unlucky all over the place. I don’t think a demotion is necessary, but his control was awful and his mechanics looked weird tonight.

Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.

by Jordan M on Jun 2, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was terrible conditions.

Also – shit happens.

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by Jack Moore on Jun 2, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A 6.75 ERA and 1.80+ WHIP...

does not fall under the “shit happens” heading.

by Rubie Q on Jun 2, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Control [i]was[/i] awful?

It would be nice if he didn’t walk so many guys that his unlucky moments result in even more runs. Thankfully he only managed to to walk two last night or he might’ve given up fifteen runs.

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by TheJay on Jun 3, 2009 5:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, if he'd hit 100 pitches after just *three* innings, perhaps there'd have been less total damage...

Seriously though – either AAA or getting Dessentenced to a DL trip, something probably has to happen now. If only to give him time to rebuild his confidence…unlucky or not, the results are what they are, and they’re bound to have some effect by now.

by Zeyes on Jun 3, 2009 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Rec'd for "Dessentenced"

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Jun 3, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dan Haren has started to grow a beard.

I wonder if it will rival Bush’s

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jun 2, 2009 10:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bedard struck out Melvin Mora for his 7th K in the top of the 7th

Mora tipped his hat to Bedard. I don’t think I’ve ever seen that before.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jun 2, 2009 11:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

How awesome

was Macha waving off Kendall before dressing down Dave Bush. Don’t contaminate the grit!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 2, 2009 11:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dave Bush?

I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 2, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Late night comment fail

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 3, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OUCH

That will NOT be the picture of the week…

"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"

RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving

by kirbir on Jun 3, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's a mutant

he’s got 3. one very bulbous. i wonder if it’s malignant

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 3, 2009 2:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he's had surgery on it before

You can still see the stitching.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 3, 2009 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Glad I missed this one..

Little lady and I went and saw UP instead. Seems like we made the correct choice.

by SgtClueLs on Jun 3, 2009 7:39 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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