Marlins 10, Brewers 3
by KLSnow on Jun 2, 2009 9:21 PM CDT
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W: Burke Badenhop (4-2)
L: Manny Parra (3-7)
HR: Dan Uggla (10), Cody Ross (8), Corey Hart (6)
MVP: Ryan Braun (+.062)
LVP: Manny Parra (-.385)
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Manny Parra sucked tonight, allowing ten earned runs on eleven hits and two walks in four innings. It's finally gotten bad enough that one has to question Parra's continued spot in the rotation: Parra has allowed 21 earned runs in his last three starts, and was left out there to soak in it for a while tonight after a one-on-one mound meeting with Ken Macha.
If you saw tonight's game you already know how much it sucked, so let's try to shine some light on the positives:
- Jody Gerut singled in the second, stole second to break the Brewers' long streak without a stolen base, then stole third and scored on Manny Parra's sac fly.
- Mike Burns saved the bullpen by pitching four scoreless innings of relief in his Brewers debut.
- Ryan Braun, after leaving last night's game early, was able to play the full game and went 1-for-3 with a walk.
- Corey Hart picked up a meaningless two-run shot in the ninth to close the gap to seven runs.
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That Corey Hart home run made you scramble to fix this, didn't it?
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by TheJay on Jun 2, 2009 9:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mike Burns
Wouldn’t that be his Brewer debut?
It is what it is.
by coolig on Jun 2, 2009 9:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
a measly -.404
on any other day, that would be a file not found. curse you, florida rains!
by sowingwildoats on Jun 2, 2009 9:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
glitch in the matrix
apparently a -.385 now?
by sowingwildoats on Jun 2, 2009 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Including his batting performance.
I forgot about his sac fly.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by KLSnow on Jun 2, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
AP photographers
There must be a minimum name loopiness to be hired. Either a first initial middle name deal, or blah-de-blah the second, or just flat-out weird names.
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by TheJay on Jun 2, 2009 9:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Peavy getting roughed up
even trade for parra? eh? eh?
by Wizzyconsin on Jun 2, 2009 9:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
aw, nuts, I was just going to post that
Grass: not really greener on other side.
(Antonio Bastardo is pitching for the Phillies. Best Name Ever.)
by morineko on Jun 2, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you definitely win
But this one is pretty good too.
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
by kirbir on Jun 3, 2009 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I named a fantasy team after him
won the championship too
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
by Hyatt on Jun 3, 2009 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well that was an abomination
Thank god I was able to find tomorrow’s video already
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
by Hyatt on Jun 2, 2009 9:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
one good thing
I was finally able to watch the Total Eclipse of the Heart video. Very good stuff.
"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."
by molitorfan on Jun 2, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
that video was great
"my goodness"
by BrewHaHeather on Jun 2, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On a side note
Ill be up in MKE for the week after the fourth of july and im pretty excited to see Hoffman pitch for the brewers. I saw him a few times closing out for the Padres but from what I’m hearing, the brew crew gives him a much better (louder) intro.
by Wizzyconsin on Jun 2, 2009 9:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Trevor Hoffman pitching
is the most electric atmospere I’ve ever experienced at Miller Park
"my goodness"
by BrewHaHeather on Jun 2, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bigger than
the first playoff game in 26 years? I flew up for that game and I didnt think that could be topped.
by Wizzyconsin on Jun 2, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't there for that
but of the many games that I’ve been to, the crowd has never been so into every single pitch. It is really loud, and really exciting. I hope you get to se him pitch
"my goodness"
by BrewHaHeather on Jun 2, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One caller on WSSP
said he could hear Hell’s Bells from Miller Park Way
I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 2, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considering
we play the cards and the dodgers while i’m in town, I’ll probably be lucky to see him. Hoffmans into in SD was pretty tame when I saw it. Still louder than any other closers ive seen but nothing of note like what i’ve been hearing.
by Wizzyconsin on Jun 2, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't that make you
more likely to see him?
I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 2, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
assuming
they pick up their play against STL and LA cools off.
by Wizzyconsin on Jun 2, 2009 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Playoff game victory by far.
We remained standing in the bleachers for just about every single pitch.
After the game, people stood atop the ramps watching people leave and cheering.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Jun 2, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paging Mr. Dillard
Mr. Tim Dillard, please pick up on line two. Thank you.
by ecocd on Jun 2, 2009 9:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Braves have the winning run on third in the bottom of the 11th with two outs
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 9:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
To the 12th they go
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not anymore
liner caught by Fukudome
"my goodness"
by BrewHaHeather on Jun 2, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs with one position player left
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by TheJay on Jun 2, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's too bad Neal Cotts is gone
He probably would have been useful in LF.
by morineko on Jun 2, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the guy they have left is Jake Fox
Rumor says “position player” is a misnomer.
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by TheJay on Jun 2, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DH
is a position. Unfortunately not in the NL.
"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."
by molitorfan on Jun 2, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of oddly used pitchers
Todd Wellemeyer is pinch-hitting right now.
by morineko on Jun 2, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kris Medlen of the Braves pinch-ran tonight
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by TheJay on Jun 2, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tommy Hanson could've done that
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Schadenfreude
Video of Frenchy’s two-out, two-run game-tying homer from the bottom of the 9th.
Gregg’d.
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the clean cut guys politely clapping
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by TheJay on Jun 2, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hart and Burns combined for +.001 WPA
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 9:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The one positive tonight = Mike Burns
Nothing overbearing in his appearance but he saved the pen tonight and established that he can do something up here hopefully making a strong pen even stronger.
I think if Burns is able to establish himself up here the next few weeks we are a little more free to trade someone from our pen like Carlos V or Seth McClung along with a Manny Parra or Corey Hart for a very quality player in return
good to see Gamel reestablishing himself though a little bit, hopefully thats a start to something good . . .
Ring Out Ahoya!
by bleedbluegold03 on Jun 2, 2009 9:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Burns' presence turned it from a disaster into simply an embarrassing loss
Baseball’s great because you get a fresh chance almost every day, but it’s hard to look at that way when your bullpen is getting torched.
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I highly doubt
Melvin will trade any piece of the 25 man roster away. Probably only if what is recieved is better than and directly replaces what is given up.
It is what it is.
by coolig on Jun 2, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gamel and Escobar
are more valuable than some pieces on this roster right now. I know right now is an exception with our pen but we are REALLY deep in the pen to the point where good guys aren’t getting time. Good problem to have
Ring Out Ahoya!
by bleedbluegold03 on Jun 2, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're only really deep in the pen until the starters stop going 6+
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by TheJay on Jun 2, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also a good problem to have
in August and September
It is what it is.
by coolig on Jun 2, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
not on the compliments to Burns and Gamel, but to everything else. Other than Parra, the rest of our team is very solid. Why do we need to talk about trading away anyone. Especially not McClung and Villa, who have been pretty damn good.
"my goodness"
by BrewHaHeather on Jun 2, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Braves win!
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 9:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Len Kasper says "probably the toughest loss of the year for the Cubs"
Like aloe on a burn.
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
.500 again?
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Jun 2, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love it!
"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."
by molitorfan on Jun 2, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
L.W. "Chipper" Jones wins it
RBI single on a 3-2 pitch with first base open.
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by TheJay on Jun 2, 2009 9:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Poll idea:
Should Parra be moved to the pen and who should replace him in the rotation?
Personally, I’d like to see CV get another shot as a starter.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Jun 2, 2009 9:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If Parra's out as a starter, he needs to go to AAA and continue to start regularly
Going to the bullpen isn’t going to help him at all.
I think Villanueva has started his last game for the Brewers and that Dillard and McClung are the next guys in line if Parra gets the axe.
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
by battlekow on Jun 2, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
Parra needs to figure out his problems while starting, and with a WHIP inching closer and closer to 2, I’m thinking AAA is the place.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Jun 2, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
either he goes to AAA or I will have to go to AA
"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."
by molitorfan on Jun 3, 2009 6:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two problems
First, how do you get him stretched out to start
Second, you make the pen much worse and risk not really improving the rotation
It is what it is.
by coolig on Jun 2, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN bottom line:
“Brewers P David Riske to have elbow surgery could miss remainder of season”
top notch there
It is what it is.
by coolig on Jun 2, 2009 9:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
he also is the third highest paid Brewers' pitcher this year
behind only Suppan’s $12.5 million and Hoffman’s $6.25. some how we are paying him over $4 million…
Ring Out Ahoya!
by bleedbluegold03 on Jun 2, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really enjoy
watching the cubs lose on WGN. Those announcers are so whiny and come up with some pretty priceless excuses. Its also like theyre completely unprepared to witness a loss.
by Wizzyconsin on Jun 2, 2009 10:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Parra is still the second best pitcher on the team by tRA
He’s been very unlucky by the metric.
http://statcorner.com/team.php?team=MIL&year=2009&leag=N_L
Whereas Suppan is the 4th worst pitcher in the NL.
http://statcorner.com/leader.php?type=2&year=2008&leag=MLB&limit=300
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by Jack Moore on Jun 2, 2009 10:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I said this last week :)
He’s been unlucky all over the place. I don’t think a demotion is necessary, but his control was awful and his mechanics looked weird tonight.
Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.
by Jordan M on Jun 2, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was terrible conditions.
Also – shit happens.
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by Jack Moore on Jun 2, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A 6.75 ERA and 1.80+ WHIP...
does not fall under the “shit happens” heading.
by Rubie Q on Jun 2, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Control [i]was[/i] awful?
It would be nice if he didn’t walk so many guys that his unlucky moments result in even more runs. Thankfully he only managed to to walk two last night or he might’ve given up fifteen runs.
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by TheJay on Jun 3, 2009 5:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, if he'd hit 100 pitches after just *three* innings, perhaps there'd have been less total damage...
Seriously though – either AAA or getting Dessentenced to a DL trip, something probably has to happen now. If only to give him time to rebuild his confidence…unlucky or not, the results are what they are, and they’re bound to have some effect by now.
by Zeyes on Jun 3, 2009 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd for "Dessentenced"
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
by battlekow on Jun 3, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dan Haren has started to grow a beard.
I wonder if it will rival Bush’s
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Jun 2, 2009 10:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bedard struck out Melvin Mora for his 7th K in the top of the 7th
Mora tipped his hat to Bedard. I don’t think I’ve ever seen that before.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Jun 2, 2009 11:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How awesome
was Macha waving off Kendall before dressing down Dave Bush. Don’t contaminate the grit!
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Jun 2, 2009 11:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dave Bush?
I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 2, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Late night comment fail
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Jun 3, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OUCH
That will NOT be the picture of the week…
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
by kirbir on Jun 3, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's a mutant
he’s got 3. one very bulbous. i wonder if it’s malignant
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 3, 2009 2:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's had surgery on it before
You can still see the stitching.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Jun 3, 2009 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Glad I missed this one..
Little lady and I went and saw UP instead. Seems like we made the correct choice.
by SgtClueLs on Jun 3, 2009 7:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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