Game Thread #70: Twins (35-36) at Brewers (37-32)
by KLSnow on Jun 23, 2009 6:00 PM CDT
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Minnesota Twins at Milwaukee Brewers, Jun 23, 2009 7:05 PM CDT
Current Series
3 game series vs Twins @ Miller Park
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Minnesota Twins Tuesday, Jun 23, 2009, 7:05 PM CDT Francisco Liriano vs Jeff Suppan Partly cloudy. Game time temperature around 85. |
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Miller Park will be ready just in time for tonight's game after this weekend's flooding. Tom H. tweeted that players were told not to report to Miller Park until 3 pm today to allow contractors time to continue to work on repairs, and when players did arrive, the indoor batting cages remained unavailable. Repairs are expected to continue on the Service Level for quite some time, but Brewers Executive VP Rick Schlesinger said the repairs "will be invisible to fans as the field, seating areas, and main concourses were not affected by the water damage."
Meanwhile, the Brewers are attempting to bail out a sinking ship of their own, as they open a three game series looking for their first win of the season against the Twins. They'll send Jeff Suppan to the mound tonight, toting a 5-4 record and 4.48 ERA. Suppan is 2-0 over his last three starts, and the Brewers have won each of those games. Luck may have been a factor, though: Suppan has posted a 2.50 ERA in his last 18 innings despite allowing opposing batters to hit .314/.360/.429 against him.
He'll be opposed by Francisco Liriano, who leads the AL with eight losses (2-8 overall), and is third in the AL with 51 earned runs allowed (5.91 ERA). However, he's also tenth in the AL with 7.88 K/9. He's looked much better over his last three starts, posting an ERA of 3.79 in 19 innings, but is 0-4 in his last seven starts, and hasn't won since beating the Mariners on May 9.
Justin Morneau is expected to return to the lineup tonight for the Twins, while flooding over the weekend left an overabundance of grit at the top of the Brewer lineup:
C Jason Kendall
2B Casey McGehee
LF Ryan Braun
1B Prince Fielder
RF Corey Hart
CF Mike Cameron
SS J.J. Hardy
3B Bill Hall
RHP Jeff Suppan
(h/t Tom H.)
Coming off Sunday's game where only one reliever was used (Carlos Villanueva) and the off day, nearly everyone in the Brewer bullpen has at least two days of rest and anyone could feasibly pitch today.
Tuesday's Game Thread is now open.
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Interesting, let’s see if the slider is effective tonight
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
by Kyguy922 on Jun 23, 2009 6:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess I haven't been paying attention
The last time I thought about Liriano, he was teh awesome. An ERA near 6?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Jun 23, 2009 6:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cubs load the bases with 0 out in the 1st
But only get 1 run. Small miracle.
by Brew Angel on Jun 23, 2009 6:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what is the expected runs scored in that situation?
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
by Kyguy922 on Jun 23, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the Tigers come back with 1 in the bottom of the inning
Though they strand Polanco after his triple with no outs.
by Brew Angel on Jun 23, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering...
Last I heard, Capuano was supposed to start rehabbing on June 5. Any news?
by DukeMarkell on Jun 23, 2009 6:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Watching the Philly TB game on my iPhone and am impressed
Not stalling at all, quite smooth… when i am between my computer and want to watch parts of the game, it is a huge upgrade not jsut for the AtBat application, but for what it means for baseball
I think the MLB has a great advances in technology that enhances the fan experience, if only they fix the arcahic blackout restrictions…
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
by Kyguy922 on Jun 23, 2009 6:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
MLB needs to do something to their websites
No MLB website seems to be compatible with my computer
by DukeMarkell on Jun 23, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
some of the flash popup links are blocked by internet explorer
the gameday links work, but the wrap and pre-game reports don’t work on IE. Works fine mac/safari, but that results in an ad popup as well.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 23, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Safari crashes
whenever I try to go to an mlb.com page.
by DukeMarkell on Jun 23, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
then your computer is goofed
everything works beautifully on my iMac (10.5, Safari 4, Flash 10)
try reinstalling flash, maybe?
by warwick5s on Jun 23, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
people tell me I can't crash a mac
however, I appear to have a hidden talent.
PCs are stable as hell in my hands. Not Macs though. Go figure.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 23, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bill fuckin' Hall again?
I don’t even have words for this.
Get over it.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 23, 2009 6:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jason fucking kendall as leadoff?
didn’t we try that already?
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 23, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is one plus though
He’s much less likely to ever come up in a DP situation.
by DukeMarkell on Jun 23, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
Now, with Kendall batting leadoff, we could have innings where the #8 hitter gets on, the pitcher bunts him to second and Kendall bunts him to third. It’ll be like a wasted-out carnival.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by KLSnow on Jun 23, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i didn't think there was a whole lot of threat
of Kendall hitting into a DP with a runner on second. Sometimes I’m pessimistic enough to think so.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 23, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone catch Costas on MLB last night?
He had Bruce Froemming, Don Dinkinger and Steve Palermo on. Really good shit. Froemming can tell some stories.
"We're a lot better when everybody contributes, that's for sure." -JJ
by GoCrew on Jun 23, 2009 7:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I saw bits of it
Good stuff, but sometimes the umps came off as a bit obnoxious.
by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bruce actually comes in to my work once in a while
Him & the Stache were in there early in the season discussing Braun’s intercostal. It was great stuff to hear first hand.
Get over it.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 23, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
x=3?
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by KLSnow on Jun 23, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
42
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Jun 23, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nope
math retired that number across all equations.
"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."
by molitorfan on Jun 23, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that was my thought too
Arrogant SOB’s
"We're a lot better when everybody contributes, that's for sure." -JJ
by GoCrew on Jun 23, 2009 7:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I haven't been able to watch a game in awhile
Please don’t suck.
It was a great selection of awesome.
by battlekow on Jun 23, 2009 7:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You weren't sneaking games on the honeymoon?
Flagged!
"We're a lot better when everybody contributes, that's for sure." -JJ
by GoCrew on Jun 23, 2009 7:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
battlekow != KL
It was a great selection of awesome.
by battlekow on Jun 23, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mauer hits evertything everywhere
"We're a lot better when everybody contributes, that's for sure." -JJ
by GoCrew on Jun 23, 2009 7:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
When is the last time there was a pickoff attempt at 2nd?
Anyone remember one?
by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 7:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That the Brewers made?
It was a great selection of awesome.
by battlekow on Jun 23, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Suppan must be scuffing the ball
It was a great selection of awesome.
by battlekow on Jun 23, 2009 7:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Awesome
It was a great selection of awesome.
by battlekow on Jun 23, 2009 7:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ugh
what a joke our pitching has become in the last week.
by theBrouhaha on Jun 23, 2009 7:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My traditional prediction for Suppan starts:
a high-scoring affair.
by theBrouhaha on Jun 23, 2009 7:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Twins mascot at the game?
Who allowed that?
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by KLSnow on Jun 23, 2009 7:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
it's a bowl game
didn’t you get the memo?
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 23, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about a bowl?
Get over it.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 23, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hart walked?
I didn’t think that was possible
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 23, 2009 7:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's his 24th walk.
He now needs just 12 more to tie his career high.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by KLSnow on Jun 23, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
weren't this first 10 in the first week of the season
before pitchers re-discovered the slider?
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 23, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seven in his first eight games, yes.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by KLSnow on Jun 23, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good to have KL back
Get over it.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 23, 2009 7:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I may not be back for long today.
I have a conf. call at 8, and may be headed to bed after that…allergy meds are making me sleepy.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by KLSnow on Jun 23, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
gameday borked
i see two runs in, but how?
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 23, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there we go. nice hit cam!
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
by dux2bux on Jun 23, 2009 7:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bases loaded
Down 3… …. Well this isn’t too bad yet right? Thank you Cameron, make that down 1
by pharom on Jun 23, 2009 7:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Odds of knocking Mauer below .400?
Technically possible?
I’m sure not feasible given our starting pitcher:P
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 23, 2009 7:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
micro-tearing of the triceps
I wonder if that is “bruised.”
by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 7:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
4-2
This could be another high scoring affair
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
by Kyguy922 on Jun 23, 2009 7:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn
this is so frustrating to watch.
"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."
by molitorfan on Jun 23, 2009 7:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the D
needs to help out Soup
"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."
by molitorfan on Jun 23, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Inge homers, puts Tigers up 3-2
I watched about a minute of it on WGN and Z is storming around on the mound.
by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 7:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Suppan, Hall, Kendall
Who of those three would you predict to get a hit… me too…I think we all would put money on Soup
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
by Kyguy922 on Jun 23, 2009 7:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This could be the night
that Mauer drops below .400 and Hall drops below .200
by DukeMarkell on Jun 23, 2009 7:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and I drop
some liquor in a glass
"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."
by molitorfan on Jun 23, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Run Soup, Run!
"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."
by molitorfan on Jun 23, 2009 8:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This game may come down to two things....
1. which manager is smart enough to pull their starter first
2. which bullpen can handle it
by jimf on Jun 23, 2009 8:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
MLB network says there going to have it… after the break.
by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh JJ
not good man. Not good.
"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."
by molitorfan on Jun 23, 2009 8:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate baseball.
"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."
by molitorfan on Jun 23, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i hate JJ
but hey, hes our “sure-fielding” shortstop. ill say it again, i hate JJ
by BrewerBlue87 on Jun 23, 2009 8:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Manny Ks
I just saw the last pitch. Larkin dissin’ our Manny.
by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 8:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont get how he swings through so many fastballs
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
by dux2bux on Jun 23, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ugh
why is FSN showing Twins fans all giddy?
by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 8:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i hate playing the twins
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
by dux2bux on Jun 23, 2009 8:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So ummm what happened to the Brewers?
They haven’t looked this woeful in a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time
by dishingoutdimes on Jun 23, 2009 8:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
DP ends the inning
and C McG with a nice turn
by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 8:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This will brighten things a bit
Kevin Gregg gives up a walkoff HR in the 9th
by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 8:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
cool
we can stay in second for another day or two.
"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."
by molitorfan on Jun 23, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a few others
but they are much shorter than your word.
"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."
by molitorfan on Jun 23, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Greetings from MN
Twins site is booooooring tonight
by ajmargarine on Jun 23, 2009 8:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hola
We’re mired in doldrums at the moment
by theBrouhaha on Jun 23, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do you hate Milwaukee so much? :)
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Jun 23, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell, even I hate Milwaukee
The city, not the team
Get over it.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 23, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they are desperate to get him a win
he’s been the suck for us this year
by ajmargarine on Jun 23, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
from Cory
“Bill Hall’s average has dropped to .199”
Can we please stop starting him now?
by theBrouhaha on Jun 23, 2009 9:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Narveson warming
I wonder if that is a white flag
by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 9:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
bad pitching, both sides
with the way Liriano is pitching there should be a few more runs out there.
by morineko on Jun 23, 2009 9:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
big at bat Jason
screw the fat asshole Gardenhire
by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 9:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If the pitchers suck
And Jason Kendall’s only strength is “handling the pitching staff,” what evidence is there to let him play? I realize the pitchers are bad with or without Kendall, but come on.
by Et tu Brewte on Jun 23, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manny Parra
3 2/3, 2 ks, 0 bbs, 0 runs. I would have his next start be in the majors, I’m sure there are some that would disagree.
I last May, still no more than Nick Neugebauer not.
by Jordan M on Jun 23, 2009 9:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I would wait post all star break
But with Bush out, maybe that will be good enough
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
by Kyguy922 on Jun 23, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think if he pitches the exact same way he did so far he's good for a 5.00-5.50 ERA
and that might be better than what we throw out there. And if he improves, you’re back to normal.
I last May, still no more than Nick Neugebauer not.
by Jordan M on Jun 23, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes some disagree
like the entire Brewers front office
"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."
by molitorfan on Jun 23, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dickey pitching
I think 2 other twins pitchers have warmed up. The Yost school of managing at work.
by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 9:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I totally forgot about that
you mean his habit of warming guys who never get into the game, right?
by morineko on Jun 23, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only one other guy warmed up
Keppel, just called up today. But, yeah, Gardy is a bullpen manager extraordinare’
by ajmargarine on Jun 23, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, allergy meds, you win.
I’m off to bed. Night everyone.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by KLSnow on Jun 23, 2009 9:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
thanks FSN
for showing all the defensive miscues together
by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 9:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Billy with his fingernails hanging on the Mendoza line
facing a knuckleballer – yiy
by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 9:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
is the relief pitching tonight a form of audition for Saturday's start?
Probably not, I know, but it could be.
by morineko on Jun 23, 2009 9:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd think Seth would be the only possibility
and he did look fairly sharp. I’d like to see DiFelice get a start, but I think the whole can’t get lefties out stops that. Curses to the LHer who golfed out that HR in Cleveland.
by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but, defense
McClung actually managed to get some D out of the fielders during his inning. Suppan, as we well know, is also defense-dependent, and he got nothing out of them.
by morineko on Jun 23, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rats, Reds, Cubs and Stros all lose
Cards get a CG 2 hitter from Pinata
by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 9:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you know who is the best leadoff hitter in the world?
kendall.
by sowingwildoats on Jun 23, 2009 10:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
chris smith looks so grizzled
like an old sea captain.
by sowingwildoats on Jun 23, 2009 10:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
flat brim guy
Its interesting how that bothers different people.
by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dink, dunk, slap, squib, bloop...
Chinese Twins water torture
by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 10:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not so sad I missed this one
Night classes on Tuesday were going to be a drag. Well, at least Suppan didn’t give up a homerun right? :-P Let’s hope no one tells Burns the Brewers are in a slump so he doesn’t know he’s supposed to suck.
by ecocd on Jun 23, 2009 10:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
there were a couple of liners that made the gaps
but he really wasn’t hit that hard. He really pitched pretty well. A few inopportune fat pitches though.
by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
here is tonight's post-game thread:
Suppan explosion for three innings of excitement.
Six innings of dull, boring, painful baseball.
by sowingwildoats on Jun 23, 2009 10:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Jun 23, 2009 11:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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| W | L | PCT | GB | STRK | |
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St. Louis
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91 | 71 | .561 | 0 | Lost 6 |
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Chicago
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83 | 78 | .515 | 7.5 | Lost 1 |
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Milwaukee
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80 | 82 | .493 | 11 | Won 3 |
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Cincinnati
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78 | 84 | .481 | 13 | Won 2 |
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Houston
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74 | 88 | .456 | 17 | Lost 3 |
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62 | 99 | .385 | 28.5 | Lost 2 |
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