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Game Thread #70: Twins (35-36) at Brewers (37-32)

Minnesota Twins at Milwaukee Brewers, Jun 23, 2009 7:05 PM CDT



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3 game series vs Twins @ Miller Park

Wed 06/24 7:05 PM CDT
Thu 06/25 1:05 PM CDT

Miller Park will be ready just in time for tonight's game after this weekend's flooding. Tom H. tweeted that players were told not to report to Miller Park until 3 pm today to allow contractors time to continue to work on repairs, and when players did arrive, the indoor batting cages remained unavailable. Repairs are expected to continue on the Service Level for quite some time, but Brewers Executive VP Rick Schlesinger said the repairs "will be invisible to fans as the field, seating areas, and main concourses were not affected by the water damage."

Meanwhile, the Brewers are attempting to bail out a sinking ship of their own, as they open a three game series looking for their first win of the season against the Twins. They'll send Jeff Suppan to the mound tonight, toting a 5-4 record and 4.48 ERA. Suppan is 2-0 over his last three starts, and the Brewers have won each of those games. Luck may have been a factor, though: Suppan has posted a 2.50 ERA in his last 18 innings despite allowing opposing batters to hit .314/.360/.429 against him.

He'll be opposed by Francisco Liriano, who leads the AL with eight losses (2-8 overall), and is third in the AL with 51 earned runs allowed (5.91 ERA). However, he's also tenth in the AL with 7.88 K/9. He's looked much better over his last three starts, posting an ERA of 3.79 in 19 innings, but is 0-4 in his last seven starts, and hasn't won since beating the Mariners on May 9.

Justin Morneau is expected to return to the lineup tonight for the Twins, while flooding over the weekend left an overabundance of grit at the top of the Brewer lineup:

C Jason Kendall
2B Casey McGehee
LF Ryan Braun
1B Prince Fielder
RF Corey Hart
CF Mike Cameron
SS J.J. Hardy
3B Bill Hall
RHP Jeff Suppan

(h/t Tom H.)

Coming off Sunday's game where only one reliever was used (Carlos Villanueva) and the off day, nearly everyone in the Brewer bullpen has at least two days of rest and anyone could feasibly pitch today.

Tuesday's Game Thread is now open.

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Interesting, let’s see if the slider is effective tonight

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on Jun 23, 2009 6:05 PM CDT reply actions  

I guess I haven't been paying attention

The last time I thought about Liriano, he was teh awesome. An ERA near 6?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 23, 2009 6:06 PM CDT reply actions  

what is the expected runs scored in that situation?

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on Jun 23, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

2.417

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on Jun 23, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was wondering...

Last I heard, Capuano was supposed to start rehabbing on June 5. Any news?

by DukeMarkell on Jun 23, 2009 6:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Watching the Philly TB game on my iPhone and am impressed

Not stalling at all, quite smooth… when i am between my computer and want to watch parts of the game, it is a huge upgrade not jsut for the AtBat application, but for what it means for baseball

I think the MLB has a great advances in technology that enhances the fan experience, if only they fix the arcahic blackout restrictions…

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on Jun 23, 2009 6:27 PM CDT reply actions  

MLB needs to do something to their websites

No MLB website seems to be compatible with my computer

by DukeMarkell on Jun 23, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

some of the flash popup links are blocked by internet explorer

the gameday links work, but the wrap and pre-game reports don’t work on IE. Works fine mac/safari, but that results in an ad popup as well.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 23, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Safari crashes

whenever I try to go to an mlb.com page.

by DukeMarkell on Jun 23, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

then your computer is goofed

everything works beautifully on my iMac (10.5, Safari 4, Flash 10)

try reinstalling flash, maybe?

by warwick5s on Jun 23, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

people tell me I can't crash a mac

however, I appear to have a hidden talent.

PCs are stable as hell in my hands. Not Macs though. Go figure.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 23, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bill fuckin' Hall again?

I don’t even have words for this.

Get over it.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 23, 2009 6:43 PM CDT reply actions  

There is one plus though

He’s much less likely to ever come up in a DP situation.

by DukeMarkell on Jun 23, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right

Now, with Kendall batting leadoff, we could have innings where the #8 hitter gets on, the pitcher bunts him to second and Kendall bunts him to third. It’ll be like a wasted-out carnival.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Jun 23, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

i didn't think there was a whole lot of threat

of Kendall hitting into a DP with a runner on second. Sometimes I’m pessimistic enough to think so.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 23, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone catch Costas on MLB last night?

He had Bruce Froemming, Don Dinkinger and Steve Palermo on. Really good shit. Froemming can tell some stories.

"We're a lot better when everybody contributes, that's for sure." -JJ

by GoCrew on Jun 23, 2009 7:05 PM CDT reply actions  

I saw bits of it

Good stuff, but sometimes the umps came off as a bit obnoxious.

by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bruce actually comes in to my work once in a while

Him & the Stache were in there early in the season discussing Braun’s intercostal. It was great stuff to hear first hand.

Get over it.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 23, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

x=3?

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Jun 23, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

42

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 23, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

nope

math retired that number across all equations.

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 23, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah that was my thought too

Arrogant SOB’s

"We're a lot better when everybody contributes, that's for sure." -JJ

by GoCrew on Jun 23, 2009 7:09 PM CDT reply actions  

I haven't been able to watch a game in awhile

Please don’t suck.

It was a great selection of awesome.

by battlekow on Jun 23, 2009 7:10 PM CDT reply actions  

You weren't sneaking games on the honeymoon?

Flagged!

"We're a lot better when everybody contributes, that's for sure." -JJ

by GoCrew on Jun 23, 2009 7:11 PM CDT reply actions  

battlekow != KL

It was a great selection of awesome.

by battlekow on Jun 23, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Jun 23, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mauer hits evertything everywhere

"We're a lot better when everybody contributes, that's for sure." -JJ

by GoCrew on Jun 23, 2009 7:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Ugh

what a joke our pitching has become in the last week.

by theBrouhaha on Jun 23, 2009 7:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Twins mascot at the game?

Who allowed that?

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Jun 23, 2009 7:33 PM CDT reply actions  

?

No, apparently not.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Jun 23, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hart walked?

I didn’t think that was possible

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 23, 2009 7:36 PM CDT reply actions  

That's his 24th walk.

He now needs just 12 more to tie his career high.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Jun 23, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seven in his first eight games, yes.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Jun 23, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I may not be back for long today.

I have a conf. call at 8, and may be headed to bed after that…allergy meds are making me sleepy.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Jun 23, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

there we go. nice hit cam!

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on Jun 23, 2009 7:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Bases loaded

Down 3… …. Well this isn’t too bad yet right? Thank you Cameron, make that down 1

by pharom on Jun 23, 2009 7:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Odds of knocking Mauer below .400?

Technically possible?

I’m sure not feasible given our starting pitcher:P

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 23, 2009 7:43 PM CDT reply actions  

funny

A strength training guy would say micro-tearing is what you are trying to do when you lift weights.

by jimf on Jun 23, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

4-2

This could be another high scoring affair

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on Jun 23, 2009 7:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Damn

this is so frustrating to watch.

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 23, 2009 7:51 PM CDT reply actions  

the D

needs to help out Soup

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 23, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Inge homers, puts Tigers up 3-2

I watched about a minute of it on WGN and Z is storming around on the mound.

by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 7:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Suppan, Hall, Kendall

Who of those three would you predict to get a hit… me too…I think we all would put money on Soup

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on Jun 23, 2009 7:59 PM CDT reply actions  

This could be the night

that Mauer drops below .400 and Hall drops below .200

by DukeMarkell on Jun 23, 2009 7:59 PM CDT reply actions  

and I drop

some liquor in a glass

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 23, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Run Soup, Run!

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 23, 2009 8:01 PM CDT reply actions  

This game may come down to two things....

1. which manager is smart enough to pull their starter first
2. which bullpen can handle it

by jimf on Jun 23, 2009 8:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh JJ

not good man. Not good.

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 23, 2009 8:12 PM CDT reply actions  

I hate baseball.

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 23, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions  

yep.

at least this baseball.

by Braun Holio on Jun 23, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

i hate JJ

but hey, hes our “sure-fielding” shortstop. ill say it again, i hate JJ

by BrewerBlue87 on Jun 23, 2009 8:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Manny Ks

I just saw the last pitch. Larkin dissin’ our Manny.

by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 8:22 PM CDT reply actions  

ugh

why is FSN showing Twins fans all giddy?

by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 8:34 PM CDT reply actions  

i hate playing the twins

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on Jun 23, 2009 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

So ummm what happened to the Brewers?

They haven’t looked this woeful in a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time

by dishingoutdimes on Jun 23, 2009 8:41 PM CDT reply actions  

This will brighten things a bit

Kevin Gregg gives up a walkoff HR in the 9th

by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

cool

we can stay in second for another day or two.

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 23, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have a few others

but they are much shorter than your word.

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 23, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Greetings from MN

Twins site is booooooring tonight

by ajmargarine on Jun 23, 2009 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Hola

We’re mired in doldrums at the moment

by theBrouhaha on Jun 23, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why do you hate Milwaukee so much? :)

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 23, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

from Cory

“Bill Hall’s average has dropped to .199”
Can we please stop starting him now?

by theBrouhaha on Jun 23, 2009 9:06 PM CDT reply actions  

bad pitching, both sides

with the way Liriano is pitching there should be a few more runs out there.

by morineko on Jun 23, 2009 9:11 PM CDT reply actions  

big at bat Jason

screw the fat asshole Gardenhire

by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 9:11 PM CDT reply actions  

If the pitchers suck

And Jason Kendall’s only strength is “handling the pitching staff,” what evidence is there to let him play? I realize the pitchers are bad with or without Kendall, but come on.

by Et tu Brewte on Jun 23, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Manny Parra

3 2/3, 2 ks, 0 bbs, 0 runs. I would have his next start be in the majors, I’m sure there are some that would disagree.

I last May, still no more than Nick Neugebauer not.

by Jordan M on Jun 23, 2009 9:16 PM CDT reply actions  

I would wait post all star break

But with Bush out, maybe that will be good enough

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on Jun 23, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think if he pitches the exact same way he did so far he's good for a 5.00-5.50 ERA

and that might be better than what we throw out there. And if he improves, you’re back to normal.

I last May, still no more than Nick Neugebauer not.

by Jordan M on Jun 23, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes some disagree

like the entire Brewers front office

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 23, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dickey pitching

I think 2 other twins pitchers have warmed up. The Yost school of managing at work.

by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

I totally forgot about that

you mean his habit of warming guys who never get into the game, right?

by morineko on Jun 23, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

Even the announcers used to refer to X number of appearances but X number of times warmed up without pitching.

by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only one other guy warmed up

Keppel, just called up today. But, yeah, Gardy is a bullpen manager extraordinare’

by ajmargarine on Jun 23, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok, allergy meds, you win.

I’m off to bed. Night everyone.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Jun 23, 2009 9:32 PM CDT reply actions  

thanks FSN

for showing all the defensive miscues together

by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 9:37 PM CDT reply actions  

I'd think Seth would be the only possibility

and he did look fairly sharp. I’d like to see DiFelice get a start, but I think the whole can’t get lefties out stops that. Curses to the LHer who golfed out that HR in Cleveland.

by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

but, defense

McClung actually managed to get some D out of the fielders during his inning. Suppan, as we well know, is also defense-dependent, and he got nothing out of them.

by morineko on Jun 23, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

flat brim guy

Its interesting how that bothers different people.

by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not so sad I missed this one

Night classes on Tuesday were going to be a drag. Well, at least Suppan didn’t give up a homerun right? :-P Let’s hope no one tells Burns the Brewers are in a slump so he doesn’t know he’s supposed to suck.

by ecocd on Jun 23, 2009 10:13 PM CDT reply actions  

there were a couple of liners that made the gaps

but he really wasn’t hit that hard. He really pitched pretty well. A few inopportune fat pitches though.

by ol Pete on Jun 23, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

here is tonight's post-game thread:

Suppan explosion for three innings of excitement.
Six innings of dull, boring, painful baseball.

by sowingwildoats on Jun 23, 2009 10:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Postgame thread.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 23, 2009 11:35 PM CDT reply actions  

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