Wednesday's Frosty Mug
by KLSnow on Jun 3, 2009 8:56 AM CDT
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Some things to read while building a pizza oven.
What's next for Manny Parra, who was awful last night and has lost three straight starts in ugly fashion? As of this writing, 78% of voters at the JS think Parra should be removed from the rotation. Quevedo at the Buffet has gone ahead and gotten Manny the extended weather forecast for Nashville and a Grand Ole Opry schedule.
If Parra is bumped from the rotation, Mike Burns (who threw four scoreless innings last night) and Seth McClung will likely be considered to fill in. Mark DiFelice might have been an option, but he'll be leaving the team this weekend to attend his grandmother's funeral.
One of the eleven hits given up by Parra last night was Dan Uggla's 100th home run, making him the quickest second baseman to 100 HR in major league history. Uggla, though, didn't want to make a big deal out of it.
How many Brewers belong on the All Star team? Dave Cameron of FanGraphs filled out an NL roster, and has two Brewers on his team: Ryan Braun and Mike Cameron. I'd be pretty surprised if Trevor Hoffman doesn't make the squad, and one could certainly make a case for Yovani Gallardo, too.
First, they need to get out of Florida, but this is nice too: Teams in first place on June 1 make the playoffs two thirds of the time. Of course, the 2007 Brewers were in first place on June 1, too.
I'm awash in minor league notes today:
- Jeremy Jeffress, the Brewers' top pitching prospect, responded well to a demotion to Brevard County, allowing just two hits and no runs in seven innings last night.
- Baseball America has a list of minor leaguers who attempt a disproportionately high number of stolen bases, and Alcides Escobar (21-for-27) shows up on it. We don't frequently mention speed as part of his game, but if Alcides could develop into a 30-40 SB guy in the majors, it would add a fair amount to his value.
- Chris Cody was called up to Nashville to fill Mike Burns' roster spot; At The Old Ball Game has frame-by-frame pictures of his delivery. (Now there's also video.)
- Rattler Radio has a preview of tomorrow's Timber Rattlers promotion: the "Salute to Cows." If you're headed to the park tomorrow for this one, you might see me there.
- Nashville plays Iowa at noon today, and you can listen live here. Chase Wright is starting for the Sounds.
The Brewers continue to prepare for the draft next week, their first draft without Jack Zduriencik. The Capital Times talked with Doug Melvin about the draft and his apparent dislike for the system. Baseball Reference has their draft preview up.
Meanwhile, Prince Fielder is on the cover of 2K Sports' The Bigs 2, and sat down for an interview to mumble something indecipherable about it.
Around the league:
Nationals: Catcher Jesus Flores has a stress fracture in his shoulder and may miss the rest of the season.
Rangers: Placed Josh Hamilton on the DL with a groin strain that may require surgery.
Reds: Placed Edinson Volquez on the DL with elbow tendinitis.
Milton Bradley may be headed back to the DL as well. Bradley left last night's game with a leg injury.
Yesterday I mentioned the possibility that the Nationals were getting ready to make a coaching change. They made one, but not the one I expected, firing pitching coach Randy St. Claire. Acting GM Mike Rizzo said the move was made due to a difference in philosophy, but Craig Calcaterra of The Hardball Times says St. Claire's laid back nature probably made it easier to fire him.
If Randy Johnson wins his 300th game but no one comes to see it, does it make a sound? Johnson will get his first shot at 300 wins in Washington, and Umpbump wants to know how many fans will show up.
It's still early, but the NL Central is significantly better than a lot of experts predicted. Dayn Perry, though, still ranks it third behind the AL East and Central.
Are you a roster rule junkie? If you are, you should check out this edition of Quid Pro Quo over at Inside the Majors. It's written by Bart Given, former assistant GM of the Blue Jays.
Finally, here are a bunch of obscure former Brewer notes:
- Elvis Andrus was hit by a pitch yesterday, making him just the second player named Elvis to get hit. Until yesterday, former Brewer Elvis Pena was the only one.
- It looks like Kevin Mench's adventures in Japan are drawing to a close. I doubt he'll be invited back.
- Teddy Higuera surprised me by making this list of players who have thrown nine innings with three hits or less in three consecutive starts, joining Roger Clemens, Bib Gibson, Sandy Koufax and John Tsitouris.
Oh, and happy birthday to Robert Machado, who caught 51 games for the 2002 Brewers and turns 36 today.
Drink up.
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Don't get me wrong
I like Parra and all. But why does the team feel the need to throw a lefty Daniel Cabrera out there every five days? His stuff is good but a lot of times he doesn’t know where anything is going and he’s prone to imploding a little too much for comfort.
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
by kirbir on Jun 3, 2009 9:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Did you just compare Parra to Daniel Cabrera?
There is absolutely no comparison between the two. There’s definitely a problem, but Daniel Cabrera is way too much of an extreme. Parra has been extremely unlucky this year, and Parra’s only full season was better than all but 1 of Cabrera’s years. I mean goodness people are overreacting. Parra’s still quite a bit better than replacement level in the two pitching evaluation stats that actually matter. He has a 4.90 FIP and a 4.40ish tERA. The dude is incredibly unlucky this year. He’s struck out a few more and walked a lot more— the 5.5 BB/9 needs to and will come down, but even so, he’s still been an effectively unlucky pitcher. See these 2 numbers: .359 , 62.4 %. League average BABIP is .300 and pitchers don’t have a lot of control over it, and the average left on base % is in the 70s and it’s largely chance when it deviates from that. After working myself into this, I’m kinda concerned that there isn’t even an option in the poll to just leave him in the rotation with maybe skipping 1 turn. I would’ve voted for it.
Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.
by Jordan M on Jun 3, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I only posted that to see what you'd say
I love Parra, so don’t worry.
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
by kirbir on Jun 3, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also thought it odd that there wasn’t an option to just leave him alone (since option 4 is wasted on DFA’ing him).
I agree that he has been somewhat unlucky with his babip (his babip againt lefties is especially bad), but the walks are his biggest problem IMO. And LOB% is going to be lower for guys that allow a lot of runners, as Parra does. I’m kind of torn on what to do. I think I would leave him alone for another start or two, but I wouldn’t be too upset if he got sent down for a few starts either.
by grant76 on Jun 3, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Teddy Higuera
Ah the magical 1987 season. Ironically, Higuera threw the first of those gems the night that Molitor attempted to hit safely in game #40. It was a complete game 10 inning 1-0 3 hitter that Rick Manning won with a single in the 10th leaving Molitor standing on deck.
by grant76 on Jun 3, 2009 9:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not to be a total douche, but...
… in what way is that ironic?
by Mykenk on Jun 3, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To me the 1987 season was the most memorable season in my memory, because so many cool things happened. 13-0 start, Nieves no-hitter. The Easter Deer/Svuem miracle. Molitor’s 39 game hitting streak (he batted .353 that year and led the league in doubles and runs while playing 75% of the season). And Higuera, who had a 32 innning scoreless streak.
To me its ironic that some cool events overlapped. The day that Molitor’s hitting streak was snapped, Higuera started his 32 inning streak including the aforementioned 3 straight complete game shutouts that had 3 hits or less.
by grant76 on Jun 3, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
interestingly?
and to describe the vision in your mind of the season
archetypal?
acmal?
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 3, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or, to describe the nitpicking of word choice,
Anal?
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by KLSnow on Jun 3, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oddly, Strangely, Interestingly, I was going to use the word magical to describe the ‘87 season but I thought that would sound cheesy. Definitely would not have called it archetypal because the season with the Crew on the outside looking in at the playoffs. I also would not have called it acmal, because I don’t know what that means.
And yeah, I’ll admit, the Higuera/Molitor thing is more interesting than ironic.
by grant76 on Jun 3, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I also would not have called it acmal, because I don’t know what that means."
Awesome.
by Mykenk on Jun 3, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta value the honesty
Up next: I couldn’t care less > I could care less, unless you actually do care a bit and want to share that you care enough to care less then you currently do
by pharom on Jun 3, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This place is gettin' Edgy
Better win tonight to keep the grammar police off the streets.
by One-Flap Down on Jun 3, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give me a win
And we all could care less about grammer and syntax and spelling
by pharom on Jun 3, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is,
We couldn’t care less.
(ducks)
by charmar on Jun 3, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Instead of marking it an error
You should record that in the books as a Poster’s Choice, I also misspelled grammar to drive the point home =P
by pharom on Jun 3, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Irregardless, Kelsey Grammer just can't catch a break because of this...
by Zeyes on Jun 3, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
While the grammar cops are in full force
Does anyone else think its really weird that
a) irregardless is a word
b) despite appearing to be the opposite of regardless, it basically means the same thing?
by grant76 on Jun 3, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I refuse to use it. I ignore the ir
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Jun 3, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's not a word really
it’s in the unabridged dictionary, but not the standard ones. This is from dictionary.com’s entry
ir⋅re⋅gard⋅less [ir-i-gahrd-lis] Show IPA
–adverb Nonstandard.
regardless.
Origin:
1910–15; ir- 2 (prob. after irrespective) + regardless
Usage note:
Irregardless is considered nonstandard because of the two negative elements ir- and -less. It was probably formed on the analogy of such words as irrespective, irrelevant, and irreparable. Those who use it, including on occasion educated speakers, may do so from a desire to add emphasis. Irregardless first appeared in the early 20th century and was perhaps popularized by its use in a comic radio program of the 1930s.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 3, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
weird, but not as dangerous
as inflammable/flammable.
due credit to: old Cheers episode. Woody Harrelson line.
by lawlackey on Jun 3, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
someone named woody talked about inflammability?
awesome.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 3, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Think...
… it’s time for a “Is Manny Parra a lost cause” post
by Mykenk on Jun 3, 2009 9:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lost Cause is way too strong.
He needs to take a start off. Maybe 2. Maybe even be sent to the minors to get his confidence back. Going into this season, we thougth he was our number 2 pitcher. Let’s not jump ship prematurely, here.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Jun 3, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was kidding.
And you thought he was our #2?? I had him 4th going in.
by Mykenk on Jun 3, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I had him and bush as tied for 2.
I had him above Looper
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Jun 3, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had Bush 2, Looper 3. 2-4 pretty close in my book.
by Mykenk on Jun 3, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you mean jeff suppan was #1 and Gallardo was #5 O>
(icecream cone)
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 3, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sending him down might be a good idea
Although, he’s always pitched really well in the minors. I wish that there was a way to figure out some better way to help him.
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
by kirbir on Jun 3, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The team wanted him to be a number 2
Sitting right behind the team wanting Yo to be a number 1, but going into the season neither was being forced into those roles overtly, and I’d probably have ranked Parra 4, after Yo, Bush, Looper, but there’s no denying that he was hoped to turn into a 2… and hasn’t yet
by pharom on Jun 3, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will be surprised
if any of the Cardinals don’t get upset about the way Prince is watching what we can assume is a home run on the cover of that game.
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
by kirbir on Jun 3, 2009 9:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The "Bigs" is a baseball game?
I figured they pegged Prince for the cover for a totally different reason. Who knew?
by Mykenk on Jun 3, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
possibly a “Sims” with all fat people?
by juggernaut400 on Jun 3, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would prefer that no Brewres went to the All-Star Game
I know we have to send one player but I would rather have them lay on the couch and rest over the break.
There have been a number of Brewers who have went to AS game and never really been right after it
Hart Capuano Turnblow(had to do it Marty)
Guys like Braun and Prince seem to be able to handle not having the time off but I hope no Brewer is in the final ballot goat rope.
I could care less about the AS Game I want our guys fresh for the second half of the Season
Playoffs are the only thing that matter.
So please stop voting let our guys rest
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
by WSB Chris on Jun 3, 2009 9:36 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
But
if I stop voting, I’ll never win a night in Braun’s suite!
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
by kirbir on Jun 3, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
tell you what Kibir stop voting
and I will kidnap Braun after the season is over and you can have him for your love slave all off season
that seems like a fair trade ;)
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
by WSB Chris on Jun 3, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, well then
No more voting for me :D
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
by kirbir on Jun 3, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. The AS game is played out and needs to be removed.
by Mykenk on Jun 3, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or, it can be a contest to see which OTHER teams superstars we can vote into starting roles in order to increase their injury potential... hmmm..
by Mykenk on Jun 3, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
stuff the ballot box for milton bradley
"This one means 'Kill Kirk!!!!'... And also, 'hallelujah'... Depending on the context."
by trippingandy on Jun 3, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All-Star Fall-Off
I dread the idea of all Brewers on the all-star team for that reason, some guys don’t come back to where they were after the game, Hart last year is a perfect example, I wouldn’t mind Prince, Braun or Cameron, but look at a guy like Kendall, who can’t be given a day off without someone coming into bodily harm, sometimes that break is nice to get setup for a strong second half.
In fact, look at Hart this season. He gets a few extra days off and plays well then drops off after what? A week? week and a half? extra break, back to performing, drop off, extra break, back to… etc, Hart fell off sharply at end of last year, he’s like the poster child for days off being incredible
by pharom on Jun 3, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In that Fielder video
did I see BIG SETH all suited up for batting motion capture for a second?
by warwick5s on Jun 3, 2009 9:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
In Parra's Defense
BA did doom him to give up Uggla’s 100th HR when he made the comment that he has been stuck at 99 immediately before the ab.
BCB, the preferred above replacement level sarcasm supplier.
by MadJimiBrewha on Jun 3, 2009 9:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
BA is the Angel of Death lately
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
by WSB Chris on Jun 3, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it is too early to consider Parra's career to be dead
but we do need to come to the realization that he is the #4 starter on this team, and I hope he makes it to the All-Star break to be adjusted as such. Last night was the bottom of the barrel for him, and I’m sure he was just fearing that Keyboard Cat was going to play him off, like Steven Colbert feared him.
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
by Hyatt on Jun 3, 2009 10:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't get the Keyboard Cat thing
It’s just some guy who put an outfit on his cat and then manipulated the cat to play the keyboard. The car is not happy looking at all and clearly isn’t thrilled with the fake playing. It’s so annoying.
But, yes, I agree with you about Parra. Everyone falls into slumps or has bad seasons. Hopefully, that is all that’s happening for him here.
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
by kirbir on Jun 3, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I explain the humor of Keyboard Cat
it will lose it’s luster. You’ve never seen the Gong Show, and I’m assuming you weren’t a fan of Showtime at the Apollo. If you liked Dave Chapelle’s Wrap it Up box, it is a similar concept. The cat itself is not the subject, it’s the guy screwing up and being played off the “stage”
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
by Hyatt on Jun 3, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've seen the Gong Show
I just don’t think this cat thing is funny is all.
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
by kirbir on Jun 3, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It could be worse
I could post the violation of Alf… but I have better tact, and I don’t want to get banned.
Though for those who want to see it, go to wwwDOTtinyurlDOTcomSLASHalfrape
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
by Hyatt on Jun 3, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm with you here
they could do something else to get the person off the stage. like, oh, throw tomatoes.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 3, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or bring out the cane
Why doesn’t that ever happen anymore?
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
by kirbir on Jun 3, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because of the advent of Keyboard Cat
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
by Hyatt on Jun 3, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
Keyboard Cat put long cane salesmen out of business
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Jun 3, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This economy is rough on everyone
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
by Hyatt on Jun 3, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not Getting Keyboard Cat
Honestly I never got into it at first, I get the gong show, i get the vaudevillian reference, i’ve seen the speeches that go on too long at the Emmys, but applying to every fail video just didn’t make sense.
Now it’s taken on his whole second life though, and I can say that even though the concept, like every other meme, is getting overused so very very quickly, I still can’t help but appreciate that moment, early on, when they cut to Keyboard Cat getting setup, he isn’t playing, but he knows the time is approaching. That little section is pure awesome, in a sea of overdoneness
by pharom on Jun 3, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh my goodness
his career is considered dead by some people now? (not you obviously). That’s disturbing.
Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.
by Jordan M on Jun 3, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
New poll up
Maybe if Macha reads the blogs ever, we can help decide Manny’s fate.
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
by kirbir on Jun 3, 2009 10:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If blogs can change Coffey's entrance music, anything is possible
But honestly, I’m torn on the poll. I voted for sending him down because I would like that to work, I’d really like him to just find his control again, and not blow up.
That said, I’d be fine with him becoming a member of the bullpen, maybe that’d be the answer if he gets send down, does fine and blows up after getting called up again… and if that’s likely to be what may occur why not cut to the chase and put him in the bullpen now? With DiFelice away/nursing an injury, Julio of course now gone, sending down means replacing Parra as a starter and also losing a member of a now depleted bullpen.
So… I think I just talked myself into wanting to change my vote. I have no idea now =(
by pharom on Jun 3, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing that I'm worried about if we send him down
is that he pitched really well in the minors, but usually has a problem in the big leagues. I’m not entirely sure that sending him down would help him out a whole lot.
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
by kirbir on Jun 3, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's say there's this person who got his driver's license six months ago ...
And he did really, really well in his driver’s ed class and his behind-the-wheel training and all that jazz.
Unfortunately, though, now that he’s got his license, he damn near wrecks his car every time he’s on the highway.
Would you think that maybe he needed a bit more seasoning in terms of learning to drive (even though he’d done really well in driver’s ed), or would you suggest we keep running him out there on the road and hope that he puts it together eventually — and, hopefully, before he wrecks the car for good?
by Rubie Q on Jun 3, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well i guess behind the wheel is the same thing as driving on the road
So he still could wreck cars while drivign behind the wheel… maybe not the best analogy
The question I have, does AAA really teach people how to pitch, while in the majors they are just left to their own devices… I am guessing there are coaches in the majors that can help him and have had more experience with pitchers… but I guess I get the point, he is hurting the team now, so dont wreck the Brewers 2009 season when they are in contention…
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
by Kyguy922 on Jun 3, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point, Kyguy.
Maybe the analogy should’ve been about a guy who did well on a closed road course, but couldn’t hack it on the highway.
Still: I don’t much care how he did in the minors before. Right now, he’s torpedoing the season with the way he’s pitching. What’s the harm in sending him down? It might not work, but it’ll be a hell of a lot less detrimental than running him out with the big league club every fifth day and praying the light goes on.
by Rubie Q on Jun 3, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So why not
just have him working with a pitching coach and rest an extra game or two?
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
by kirbir on Jun 3, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is a double edged sword
His confidence might go down if he is demoted in effect the Brewers telling him he is not “worthy” of a roster spot at the major league level, and could torpedo his year… but his confidence also could go up if he dominates in AAA and gets his groove back… while staying the majors and gettign beat up a few more outings will demoralize him, the only hope is he fights his way through this and starts dominating in the majors, which doesnt look liekly to me at this point.
I dont know, all conjecture, a tough call and I will stand by the Brewers with whatever they decide, because it is not an easy decision and they probably know best.
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
by Kyguy922 on Jun 3, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think
it’s more likely that he’ll not immediately do well in AAA either, but will eventually “find his groove”, which he can then apply to the big leagues
as to his confidence level being torpedoed by being sent down – if his confidence level is high right now, there’s something truly wrong with him.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 3, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm really not trying to be contrarian.
I’m just wondering: what’s the harm in sending him down for a couple weeks? His confidence isn’t going to get any better getting cuffed with the big league club, and we’re not going to have to suffer through 4-inning, 10-run debacles while we wait for Manny to get his groove back (if he ever does).
by Rubie Q on Jun 3, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think sending Manny down would be the best thing to do
look at how it helped Dave Bush
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
by dux2bux on Jun 3, 2009 10:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but if YoGa doesn't get hurt, does Bush still get called up just like that?
mesa thinksa no.
by Mykenk on Jun 3, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
perhaps
but as you were skeptical yesterday, do you really think Mike BOOO-Urns can hold Manny’s spot in the rotation?
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
by Hyatt on Jun 3, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So by that
Parra would be back up quickly once he gets things straightened out.
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
by Hyatt on Jun 3, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I almost posted "flagged"
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Jun 3, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flagged
Fortune favors the bold.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Jun 3, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd
for the proverb
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
by Hyatt on Jun 3, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As much as I would like to hope it would work like that
I look at Bush and Parra as polar opposites. Bush = Success with average at best stuff, Parra = Failure with above average stuff. Can we just get a shrink to be his buddy or at least assign Riske to be his shadow?
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by MadJimiBrewha on Jun 3, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2K Sports
Not to sound like a stickler, but The Bigs series is from 2K Sports, not EA.
by kdogg on Jun 3, 2009 11:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fixed
Thanks for the correction.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by KLSnow on Jun 3, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was a very difficult video to watch...
with the bad music and weird interviews; but it was rad to see that Seth got to swing the bat for the game. awesome.
by Jamie in LA on Jun 3, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hated how they went back and forth between interviews with Prince and the video game creator guy
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Jun 3, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ya.
and prince was actually a pretty good interview for how obviously unprepared they were for it.
the guy “selling” the game seemed nervous talking about the game. “um, yeah…um…”
the video was too long; if im not watching the whole thing; with the brewers cameos; i dont think too many people are.
by Jamie in LA on Jun 3, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a general question about Parra
He’s obviously under a lot of pressure to perform right now. But is there any way to actually alleviate some of that pressure? If we give him rest, or send him to the minors, will there actually be more pressure on him to perform well in his next start?
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Jun 3, 2009 12:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that is true
Maybe match him up the worst pitcher we see in the next 10 days? And give him off days for the rest—- then hopefully the brewers will score 6 runs or so and make it easier for him to win
Dontk now, just throwing it out there
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
by Kyguy922 on Jun 3, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how about skipping his next start
so he’s pitching against the Rockies and Indians instead of the Braves and White Sox.
Actually, I’m not even sure if those lineups are much different.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Jun 3, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And somebody would have to pitch on 4 days rest if that happened.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Jun 3, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is interesting
It seems to me that everyone is always talking about Parra thinking too much about what he is doing. Didn’t Sabathia even say that Parra needs to keep it more simple? If that is true I imagine sitting him would be the worst possible thing.
by Bernie's Mustache Wax on Jun 3, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With all this Parra Discussion
Now would have been the perfect time for some in depth Dixie Pitch-Fx analysis. Jordan, any chance you’ve figured out enough in those realms to give us something interesting to ponder? Maybe a look at effective vs. ineffective starts over the last 2 years or so and see if there is something we are missing, i.e. release point, pitch movement changes, pitch usage, etc.
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by MadJimiBrewha on Jun 3, 2009 1:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Two issues I see without looking into pitchf/x
1. One of the mug links talked about how Parra is having a problem pitching from the stretch. With a guy on first, his line is .381/.458/.595 in 50 plate appearances.
2. He is getting killed by lefties. 63 PA – .333/.435/.471 with 10 walks. BABIP against lefties is .436.
Interestingly, he was pretty good against lefties last year. And good with guys on base.
by grant76 on Jun 3, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll write a post about him soon
I’m kinda stepping in for KL for a while here starting when school’s done on Friday, so you’ll get something like that soon.
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by Jordan M on Jun 3, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ken Macha is on Rome right now
www.sportsradio1250.com
Click Listen Live in the upper right corner. It will probably be linked on their frontpage after the interview is over
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Jun 3, 2009 1:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
first time this week i haven't had Romey on, figures
what did i miss only coming into the interview now?
by pharom on Jun 3, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Draft
Very cool on Baseball Reference about the Draft.
So how will the Brewers look in 3 to 4 years,if with the picks they have this year can draft a 1) Alan Trammell to play SS (Jiovanni Mier?), 2) Barry Bonds (Jared Mitchell?), 3) Tom Glavine (Matt Bashore?), 4) Sid Fernandez (Michael Belfiore?) ) David Cone (Jason Stoffel?) and 6) Cliff Lee (Buddy Baumann?).
Probably a little too much to ask, especially since that would put 4 LHP in the starting rotation, but its worthwhile to see who has been picked at those various spots.
by backtocali on Jun 3, 2009 1:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I looked at that too
And said the Brewers could drastically improve if they picked all those best picks…. man what a difference that would make- problem is those players are over many years, every draft will only have 4-6 superstars at most, and more likely just 1 to 3, so the Brewers would have to be extremely lucky to get all of those players
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
by Kyguy922 on Jun 3, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
mAAAnny pAAArAAA
“I told him we needed a couple more innings,” said Macha, who rarely visits the mound if he’s not making a change. “Sometimes, he gets concerned about the runners. His focus gets away from him.”
He has a mechanical problem right now pitching with runners on. Nashville sounds like a great place to get his focus/confidence back.
"You combine the fact that they're good at everything and we're good at nothing, it's not going to be a very pretty outcome." -Ryan Braun
by GoCrew on Jun 3, 2009 2:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Furthermore
Macha said there was “a difference of opinion” between manager and pitcher on that subject and Parra admitted to struggling with men on base.
When you are pitching that bad you have no business having a difference of opinion. I want Prince to shove Parra as hard as he can in the face again!!! Headcase.
"You combine the fact that they're good at everything and we're good at nothing, it's not going to be a very pretty outcome." -Ryan Braun
by GoCrew on Jun 3, 2009 2:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If Parra admitted to struggling with runners on base
Woudln’t that mean that Macha doesn’t think he’s struggling with runners on base?
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Jun 3, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I gathered from that statement
It seems as though Parra has a problem with not having confidence in himself.
Besides, I don’t think that getting Parra shoved around is going to help him pitch any better.
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by kirbir on Jun 3, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
in fact...
maybe that’s the cause of some of his problems. he feels that he doesn’t “fit in”
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 3, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay no shoving
But I am concerned that Macha went out there and pleaded with him for more innings and Manny failed in a way that looked like he was trying to prove to Macha that he didn’t belong out there any more. Hence the grand slam after a visit to the mound.
"You combine the fact that they're good at everything and we're good at nothing, it's not going to be a very pretty outcome." -Ryan Braun
by GoCrew on Jun 3, 2009 2:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I really doubt anyone
with the drive and discipline to make it to the majors in the first place would purposely throw a meatball over the plate with the bases loaded. Except possibly Gary Sheffield, had he been a pitcher. But of course Sheffield knew he was going to make it and wanted out of MKE when he was purposely committing errors. I doubt Parra feels that way about his future. I think the disagreement was about some part of the windup vs. strectch thing.
by lawlackey on Jun 3, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In other news
Tony LaRussa is still a douche
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
by Kyguy922 on Jun 3, 2009 4:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Ken Macha is going to sue
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
by Kyguy922 on Jun 3, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That explains the lack of LaRussa/Dave Duncan fanfic. ;)
by morineko on Jun 3, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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St. Louis
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91 | 71 | .561 | 0 | Lost 6 |
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Chicago
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83 | 78 | .515 | 7.5 | Lost 1 |
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Milwaukee
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80 | 82 | .493 | 11 | Won 3 |
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Cincinnati
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78 | 84 | .481 | 13 | Won 2 |
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Houston
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74 | 88 | .456 | 17 | Lost 3 |
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Pittsburgh
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62 | 99 | .385 | 28.5 | Lost 2 |
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