Thursday's Community Frosty Mug
by Kyle Lobner on Jun 4, 2009 8:00 AM CDT
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I'm going to have to take the day off today. You see, as I've mentioned on the site a couple of times, I'm getting married this weekend. In fact, the new Mrs. Snow and I were legally married at a courthouse here in Appleton last night. All told, it's a crazy month for me, with all of the following:
Last night: Legally married.
Saturday: Wedding ceremony
Sunday: Leave on honeymoon
Sunday 6/14: Return from honeymoon
Wednesday 6/17: Moving truck arrives in Des Moines to pick up our stuff.
Thursday 6/18: We get control of our new house in Appleton.
So, as you can see, I'm not going to be available to write for a bit. Thankfully, we've assembled the best team of Brewer writers on the web here at BCB, and they'll be picking up my slack for the next few weeks. Starting tomorrow, Jordan will be taking over on the Frosty Mug, likely for much of the rest of June, and everyone will be pitching in to make sure the site runs as well (maybe better) than it does while I'm here.
I may occasionally lurk and/or comment between now and my return, but until then, take care and go Brewers!
KL
P.S.: I forgot to mention it, but since I don't have a Mug today, I'm asking you to help out. Please use the comments to let us know what you're reading. Thanks!
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Congratulations
on your marriage, enjoy your honeymoon, and best of luck with your move!!
I'm Jim Sensenbrenner, damnit!
by Princess Grumbles on Jun 4, 2009 8:01 AM CDT reply actions
Congrats man
May your marriage be blessed and enjoy your time away!
Marriage, Honeymoon, Moving
you think you want to throw in a work project in there to make life a little more stressful?
Anyway, Melvin has no interest in Tom Glavine, and there is nothing funnier than a groin shot, especially by a football
And Peter King, taking a break from felating all things Brady and Favre, decided to chime in on his twitter page about the Pirates. Here is his statement in all of it’s glory:
SI_PeterKingOne other baseball note. How can you be a Pirate fan? They trade anybody with a chance to be a cornerstone guy. Bay last year, now McCloud.
I’ve already expressed on twitter how much he should stick to poorly reporting football, I’ll let the rest of you dissect it for yourselves.
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
"How can you be a Pirate fan?"
It’s hard for me to not like the Pirates, they’re the only reason the Brewers made the post-season last year, and they’ll likely be a large part of it this year as well. Thanks Pittsburgh!
They're my third-favorite team in the division, for sure
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
I never knew what true happiness was until I got married....
…..and now its too late.
Seriously though. Despite leading the NL in walks and losses, Manny Parra is staying with the team for now. Parra and Macha have a difference of opinion on whether he should slide step or lift his leg when pitching from the stretch.
McCalvy also says that Macha might want to take Manny’s splitter.
I like this statement referring to a AAA stint
“We haven’t thought about that at all,” Melvin said.
Then you’re not really doing your job are you? You have to at least think about it.
GM Doug Melvin doesn’t seem too interested in Tom Glavine
“I don’t think so,” said Melvin. "I had a lot of calls last night. My feeling is that Atlanta knows about Tom Glavine more than anybody. At this point, I don’t think we would have an interest.
Interpretation: If Atlanta will dump the franchise legend to the side of the road, he must have nothing left.
i think the braves GM is playing a little reverse psychology
dump him right before the bonus clauses kick in, have everyone pass on Glavine because the Atlanta GM must think he’s not healthy. Then a couple weeks go by and Atlanta signs Glavine for a contract even cheaper and without the bonuses.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 4, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Why would Glavine want to do that?
Considering the Braves FO just gave him a big FU(entes) after going through the motions of letting him rehab.
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Translation
We’re gonna see how much it would cost.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Boooooooo
How selfish of you Snow. Guess I will have to read another blog with a webmaster that actually cares.
captainbok: What do you like the most about milwaukee
Jeff Suppan: Captain Bok, that is a great question. Does "Bok" mean Book of Knowledge? My favorite thing about Milwaukee are the Brewers.
You've ruined my morning routine!
What am I going to do in the morning now?
Congrats and good luck KL.
Sammy Sosa
Sammy Sosa will announce his retirement soon so that he can “calmly wait for my induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame”
I saw that on ESPN
Sammy Sosa announces his retirement…did he get a job??
captainbok: What do you like the most about milwaukee
Jeff Suppan: Captain Bok, that is a great question. Does "Bok" mean Book of Knowledge? My favorite thing about Milwaukee are the Brewers.
I think he is retiring because he didn’t get a job.
The article says that he serves the Dominican governement as a Special Ambassador For Investment Opportunities. Fill in your own joke there.
"Special Ambassador For Investment Opportunities"
I would change his title to “Special Tactician for Economic Recovery in the Oppotunities and Investments Department”
or just “STEROID Czar” for short.
by vacin8r on Jun 4, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Yes...
… but he’s got to trust his audience. We’re smart enough to figure out he steroid acronym with the last line.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 4, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Big Unit to try again for his 300th win.
After a rain out last night, the Big Unit will attempt to win his 300th game in the first of a twin bill double header starting at 3:35 CT.
Maybe he can continue losing till they come to town in a few weeks, that way I can put a 300th win certificate next to my Nolan Ryan one.
I heard that on the radio this morning
Why would they have him pitch the day game of the double header? Its fine for east coast fans, but if I were a Giants fan at work today, I would not be too happy about that.
Is he the last 300 winner?
Every time this comes up I forget who else is on the list of active potential 300-win pitchers? Was Johnson the last one? I hate the “win” statistic so I’m trying to figure out why, for some reason, I really do care about the 300-win mark.
As far as whether it’ll happen again, forever is a long-time. At some point, there will have to be another phenom that ends up on a dynasty-type team or two and rack up 300 wins, but with drug testing it may be a bit tougher for future pitchers to get those last 20 wins.
I keep hearing that there won’t be another 300 game winner because of the specialization and 5 starters.
But the last 4 guys (Johnson, Glavine, Maddux, and Clemens) have all pitched most of their careers in the current environment.
Admittedly there is no one on the horizon after Johnson, but it does not seem unlikely to me that there will be another in the next 10-15 years.
Wikipedia to the Rescue
Here’s a list of the players with 106 or more wins, bolded names are active players. It seems doubtful that Moyer will get 50 more, or Petite to get 80 more, but who knows?
Some radio show earlier in the week were debating if it would ever happen, with one of the hosts picking Sabathia as the next likely candidate to hit the mark.
Joe Posnanski had an interesting article a few days ago that makes me think it pretty likely that someone could do it soon.
The article mentions Halladay and Oswalt which seem possible, but also mentions guys like Buehrle and Graland.
His point in the article is that most 300 game winners are guys that pitch well in their late 30s not just their early 20’s. Randy Johnson didn’t even have 100 wins at age 31. Roy Halladay had 131.
Oops
Damn me for taking so long to write my thoughts! Lots of redundancy.
Ichiro, on facing Daisuke Matsuzaka for the first time: "I hope he arouses the fire that's dormant in the innermost recesses of my soul. I plan to face him with the zeal of a challenger."
That's an awesome article
I’ll remember what that article had to say for decades. Sounds like the best chances are going to be some 15 years from now, but I can wait. I had no idea how much work went into performance past 35.
Baseball Reference to the rescue
Here is the active leaderboard for wins, with pitchers’ ages.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/W_active.shtml
One thing people forget to mention is that Randy Johnson did not snag his 100th win until his age 32 season. His career is clearly an outlier, but Roy Halladay has 140 wins at age 32. Yes, he would have to pitch into his 40s, but I think someone like Roy would be a good candidate for that. When Peavy starts pitching for a contender, he could make a run at passing Halladay by age 32. C.C. certainly has a shot if he can stay ‘in shape’. Hell, Jon Garland and Mark Buehrle have outside shots based on their ages. Johan may have as good a chance as C.C., though he’s behind in both age and wins right now. He is pitching for an annual contender in the NL with a closer who could very likely dominate baseball for the next 10-15 years.
I think it’s pretty short-sighted to think that no one will ever do it again.
Ichiro, on facing Daisuke Matsuzaka for the first time: "I hope he arouses the fire that's dormant in the innermost recesses of my soul. I plan to face him with the zeal of a challenger."
another thought
it’s never been common. In retrospect, it seems like a lot of guys because we talk so much about the guys who have done it (and we’ve gotten lucky lately with Maddux/Glavine/Clemens), but Johnson will be #24. Ever.
Now consider that 7 of them are 19th century players. That’s 17 in the last 100 years, or one every 6 years or so.
Five more are deadball era players who put up most of their wins pre-1920. Thus, there have been twelve in the last 90 years — barely one every eight years.
So we’ll have had four guys cross the line in, what, half a decade? It’ll be awhile before we get another, but we will. And then the conversation will start again.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 4, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I nominate Zeyes for hive-mind.
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
I'd wager my money on Felix Hernandez over anybody else.
He’s already got 44 wins and he’s 23 years old this year. Of course, as with anyone, he has to stay healthy (might be a big one, he’s pitched over close to 200 innings every year since he was 20) and stay productive late into his career.
:) + Suppan = :'(
I would think Johan could get close too. He seems like he would still be effective as he lost his heat due to his excellent changeup.
by juggernaut400 on Jun 4, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
My darkhorse pick
Tim Wakefield. 12 wins a year until he is 52? Or 15 a year until he’s 50? Maybe not… but ya never know. Phil Niekro pitched till he was 48.
Ichiro, on facing Daisuke Matsuzaka for the first time: "I hope he arouses the fire that's dormant in the innermost recesses of my soul. I plan to face him with the zeal of a challenger."
Good luck to the Big Unit
Both on getting the W and on actually getting to pitch. Still a 70% chance of rain for DC
"my goodness"
by BrewHaHeather on Jun 4, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
It's very cold and overcast in our nation's capital right now
No rain yet, but it certainly doesn’t feel far off.
Hey, not all of us live in freaking Guinea, dude
Travail, Justice, Solidarité!
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
And they are off. Stands look bare, I mean less then a Marlins game. That’s pretty weak, how often does the chance to see a 300th win happen?
Not very often...
the Nats won’t win their 300th game in Washington until the mid-2020’s.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 4, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
it's late
but that’s a rec
"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."
Congrats KL!
I wish you and Mrs. Snow well. Marriage and a house? That’s a lot of change at once. Good luck!
I have a sore
so shouldn’t be drinking from the community mug, lest I give you all SARS or some shit;)
Congratulations and Goodluck!
I don’t have much to add in the Thursday Commentary Mug, but I did see that BA and Rock’s conversation from last night made UniWatch,
Yesterday's USA Today
Had an article about what Ben McDonald is up to these days (comparing him to Strasburg):
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2009-06-02-ben-mcdonald-cover_N.htm
Very good read
Always interesting to hear a player’s take on Scott Boras long after the relationship has been severed.
by Et tu Brewte on Jun 4, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Brewers are mentioned...
In an Oswalt story on SI.com
Here
Here's the quote
Their people are suggesting that they aren’t sure which way they’ll go — hitter or pitcher. But their every day nucleus is excellent, plus rookie Matt Gamel brings another offensive option and they can cover second base from within with clutch hometowner Craig Counsell (.316) or Cubs import Casey McGehee. The rotation has been decent, but eventually they might need another big starter to pair with the impressive young Yovani Gallardo. They also have last year’s winning mid-year gamble on CC Sabathia fairly fresh in their minds. They worked well with Cleveland last summer, so why not try for Lee?
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
Of course they screw up Gamel's first name
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
i've made a point of
spelling his last name Gammell so people start paying attention.
Well, my Aunt is guaranteed to get his first name correct. Every birthday card she ever sent me was addressed to “Mat”
Which is odd
since your name is Hector.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 4, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Oh, and one free piece of marriage advice, KL ...
If you want your marriage to get off to a smooth start, don’t “occasionally lurk and/or comment” here on your honeymoon. I’ve found that kind of thing tends to irk the new missus.
No, no, no
You have to establish boundaries early. Otherwise she’ll walk all over you. What could be more important on your honeymoon than posting to a baseball site?
That's true.
Also: nothing says “I’m hip and on my honeymoon” like a guy who brings his laptop down to the beach.
Quick story
I came home from work late last night — about 8:30 (Colorado time). My wife is a Brewers fan by extension of me being Brewers crazy, but she’s not hard core, right. Well, last night I walk in and she’s watching MLB Network, and the first words out of her mouth are “Brewers won 9-6”. Not “How was your day?”or “Dinner’s in the fridge” or “Can you take the dog’s for a walk?”.
It warmed my heart. 10 years of training has paid off.
It's all about connecting
The point of communication for women tends to be making or strengthening relationships. By asking “how was your day?” she’s showing interest in your life and trying to make a connection with you. Paying attention to the Brewers makes a connection with you and telling you something positive about them is a way to show she cares about you!
Um, I don’t really see how the dinner in the fridge or taking the dog for a walk does that, though. So maybe she’s just a Brewers fan.
Congrats on
the wedding, wish you two all the best.
"I held it like and egg...? I know he scrambled the son of a bitch!"
Jordan
I hope you have a good name for your version of the Frosty Mug. Mine was the Plastic Cup, and battlekow had the Crystal Callix.
I think it should somehow reflect the fact that no one your age, ever, would consider consuming alcohol under any circumstances. Ever.
Also, cheese.
Friday Morning Beer Pong Table Cleanup
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
I have been working on this
Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.
Are you alliterate or something?
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Jun 4, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
alliterate or illiterate
really no difference either way.
actually…replace Java with Juice. So much more appropriate in baseball, given Suppan’s semi-recent comment (before the series in St. Louis).
by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 5, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Hoffman
Trevor Hoffman was named the NL pitcher of the month. Despite his success, Chris Smith is being brought up to challenge him for the closer job.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
h/t this foreshadowing fanpost by bleedbluegold03 and this fanshot by BrewHaHeather
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
According to MLBTR, according to Buster Olney
The Brewers are “actively looking” to improve their team.
link (I don’t see anything about the Brewers in the Olney piece linked there, but in lieu of digging around in his other garbage, I’m going to trust them.)
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
they're "actively looking"
despite denials that just about anyone speculated is on the trading block from our end.
so…we’re actively looking, but in a “window shopping” sort of way?
Heh
I imagine most teams could be described as actively looking to improve their team at, oh, any point of the season.
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