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Game Thread #54: Milwaukee Brewers (31-22) at Florida Marlins (25-29)

Milwaukee Brewers at Miami Marlins, Jun 4, 2009 6:10 PM CDT


We could very well have a repeat of May 14 on our hands, since we have both starting pitchers back at the helm.

Dave Bush is 3-1 with an ERA of 4.38 in 2009. With him as the starting pitcher, Brewers are 7-4. He allowed three runs (two earned) while striking out seven Marlins in seven innings. As long as the hitters can at least match the three runs, I wouldn't mind seeing this again from Bush...especially since the bullpen has had to pitch 20 of the last 43 innings. In his career, Bush has only started four games against the Marlins, allowing 16 runs in the process.

The Marlins' starting pitcher tonight, Josh Johnson, is probably the best starter for them this season. So far, he's 4-1 for the year with an ERA of 2.66. In his last start against Milwaukee, he walked five while allowing three runs (two earned) in only four innings. Anyone remember how Manny Parra obsessively checks his baserunners? Well, Johnson has averaged one pickoff throw per baserunner this year, which puts him at the top of the league in such matters with a large margin. It'll be interesting to see how much he throws over to first base tonight, since the Brewers never run.

Lineup:

2B Craig Counsell
SS J.J. Hardy
LF Ryan Braun
1B Prince Fielder
CF Mike Cameron
RF Corey Hart
3B Bill Hall
C Mike Rivera
RHP Dave Bush

Tom sez:

And before you ask why the slump-ridden Hall is in the lineup, here is your answer: He is 4 for 6 with 2 HRs for his career against Johnson.

So unbelievably lame. We're using six at-bats as reasonable barometer now?

Bullpen Status:

  • Chris Smith pitched one inning the last two nights for AAA Nashville.
  • Seth McClung pitched last night for 3.1 innings and Monday for one inning.
  • Todd Coffey last pitched Monday for one inning.
  • Carlos Villanueva last pitched Monday for one inning (seeing a pattern here?).
  • Mike Burns pitched Tuesday for four innings.
  • Mitch Stetter last pitched Sunday for, you guessed it, one inning.
  • And Hells Bells himself pitched last night's final inning.

Today's game thread is officially open!

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Behold the evil that is the small sample

Damn this site even I the baseball caveman is becoming a baseball math geek ;)

Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S

by WSB Chris on Jun 4, 2009 4:47 PM CDT reply actions  

i was laughing out loud

when I read TH’s bill hall 4-for-6 posting.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 4, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's been dominant!

That’s gotta be at least 2 games worth of at bats!

dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove

by GoGregGo on Jun 4, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just to be clear, I wrote the "unbelievably lame" part

Kirbir may very well feel that I’m understating the manner and that it’s better characterized as “a Lusitania-esque tragedy”.

She wouldn’t let me get away with putting words in her mouth, anyway. Ryan Braun, on the other hand, could probably get away with putting just about anything in her mouth.

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Jun 4, 2009 4:49 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I agree 90%

but…he’s hit a home run two of the six times he’s faced the guy? If it were 2 doubles and 2 singles in 6 ABs, you could write that off to some BIP luck and I wouldn’t say anything, but if I’m ever willing to agree to a small sample size move, it’s something like this.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 4, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing

except I only agreed about 75%

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jun 4, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

...one of which was in 2006

Furthermore, there’s the Gamel factor. If it was between Bill Hall and Craig Counsell for the start at third, sure, maybe let Hall play. But Gamel’s gotta play.

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Jun 4, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

btw

do we consider “under 30” as a small sample size? Or does it depend on the statistic?

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jun 4, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

It depends on the stat

Here’s a good starting point.

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Jun 4, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sweet, Thanks

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jun 4, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

one limitation of that article

Simple regression is an easy way to make “too-small” sample sizes more meaningful.

Let’s say, just to make it more dramatic, that Hall had faced Johnson 10 times and homered all 10 times, for a home run rate of 100%. Of course, 10 AB isn’t a meaningful sample. But according to that list, for home run rate, numbers are meaningful at 300 PA.

So here’s what we can do. According to fangraphs, Hall’s projected HR rate for the rest of the season is 3.6%. So, for all we know about Hall, that should be his HR rate against Johnson. (Actually, we should probably take his platoon split. And if you wanted to do a fancier version of this, you could also look at Johnsons projected rate of HR allowed, compared both to league average, do some math, and get a matchup HR rate.)

So, let’s pretend we DO have a 300 PA sample — 290 PA of 3.6%, and 10 PA of 100%. That indicates a 6.8% home run rate. 10 PA isn’t meaningful if it’s all we look at, but if the 10 PA is that extreme (like 10 HR in 10 AB), it’s “meaningful” in the sense that it causes us to significantly revise our estimate of the Hall-Johnson matchup.

Now, of course, 2 HRs in 6 AB is nothing of the sort. If we do the same sort of thing, here’s what we get:
6 PA: 33.3%
294 PA: 3.6%
result: 4.2%
Probably not enough to merit a lineup decision. And maybe not even “meaningful” in a common-sense sort of way. But, strictly speaking, a “small sample size” doesn’t mean “ignore me!” It means, “regress the sh*t out of me.”

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 4, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is, Johnson's HR rate against righties, correct?

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jun 4, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

it takes a couple extra steps to generate a platoon projection — platoon splits are easy enough, as are projections, but nobody publishes the combination of the two.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 4, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd for truthiness

"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"

RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving

by kirbir on Jun 5, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Chris Smith

He’s wearing #52. Hopefully he pitches as well as the last Brewer to do that.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Jun 4, 2009 5:37 PM CDT reply actions  

or at least the previous pitcher to that one

He hasn’t done too badly, either. (No, not Capellan.)

by morineko on Jun 4, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Goodness you beat me to a Capellan joke?

Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.

by Jordan M on Jun 4, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unrelated question for Jeff & Admins/Mods

Is it possible for a group to start a new SBN blog?

I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 4, 2009 5:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes

the powers that be would probably want to see a blog you (or the group) has been doing for a while, since so many bloggers start out with good intentions and peter out a month later.

more here
http://www.sbnation.com/pages/faq

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 4, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you, kind sir.

I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 4, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

need a mod for that?

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jun 4, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

you like

the WNBA?

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

And once again,

we have the ultimate pun pitching matchup

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jun 4, 2009 5:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Bush tops Johnson

Johnson can’t beat around the Bush
Bush stays fresh late into game, Johnson tires early

by pharom on Jun 4, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

When Bush is at bat

“Bush takes a Johnson offering”

dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove

by GoGregGo on Jun 4, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm excited about Bush's rhyming possibilities

In case he blows tonight and requires a limerick burn

dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove

by GoGregGo on Jun 4, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder if we'll be seeing (Tim) Wood

or one of the Sanchez/s pitchers.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jun 4, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

My theory is that if I preemptively boo Bill Hall...

… he’ll play well and make me look like an ass.

So…

Boooo. You seem like a good guy, though of course I don’t really know, and you’re pretty good defensively most days, but you suck at hitting a baseball with a bat and are exceptionally difficult to watch. So Booo.

Now go make me look like an ass.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 4, 2009 6:01 PM CDT reply actions  

I'll join in

This team can’t steal a base! They are the worst base stealers and get picked off more then a first graders nose nuggets. And, if by some crazy chance, they DO steal a base, they certainly won’t steal another one in the same game!

this worked the last time guys… but I do believe it was Gamel =(

by pharom on Jun 4, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those were nice

especially since he ended up scoring on a sac fly. He would not have scored without those stolen bases.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jun 4, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now that the Brewers game has started

MLB Network is showing Brian Wilson trying to blow Randy Johnson’s 300th win.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Jun 4, 2009 6:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Well he's the former Brewer pitcher who's only major league hit came against Randy Johnson...

obviously

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jun 4, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not a promising start

dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove

by GoGregGo on Jun 4, 2009 6:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Help a guy out who can only follow the Brew Crew on the Radio...

does Bush still have the mountain man thing going on?

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jun 4, 2009 6:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Well then...

he can probably wrestle a bear, he can shake that off…

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jun 4, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

See...

getting Cantu on one pitch > wrestling a bear

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jun 4, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uh-oh

I saw that on Gameday…wtf happened?

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jun 4, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

crap

that’s going to suck. please stay in the game.

by Et tu Brewte on Jun 4, 2009 6:19 PM CDT reply actions  

fuck

I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 4, 2009 6:20 PM CDT reply actions  

That looked painful

Right off the elbow. Bullpen can’t really handle 8 2/3 innings tonight.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Jun 4, 2009 6:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Was that guy a prospect before?

And does one outing like that actually hinder his status?

by Et tu Brewte on Jun 4, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't really know

but he is a senior, meaning he could’ve been drafted last year but didn’t draw interest.

If he were a prospect of any stature, his coach probably wouldn’t have let him pitch that long.

I would guess that, if a team were considering him, the negative effect of a 13-inning outing would be reversed by the positive effect of proving you can throw 12 hitless innings against a solid lineup.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 4, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn

I really hate Florida. This trip has sucked.

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 6:21 PM CDT reply actions  

and more fun to come!

Next stop Atlanta to face their newly upgraded CF and Tommy Hanson. And we all know how great the Brewers do against minor leagers

"my goodness"

by BrewHaHeather on Jun 4, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hate you for saying that

I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 4, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fun fact

Jeff Suppan gave up runs in every start except two last year. He faced the Braves in both scoreless outings.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Jun 4, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aaaaaand

I hate you, too.

I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 4, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

That game at home was awesome

Had a nice bleacher view for the 1-0 win…Weeks RBI triple in bottom of eighth, and Suppan eight strong. Every once in a while, the blind squirrel finds his nuts.

by Et tu Brewte on Jun 4, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Corey has been flailing a lot lately

Lots of lame swings foul to the opposite field.

by Et tu Brewte on Jun 4, 2009 6:27 PM CDT reply actions  

i blame the haircut

tough to get a good swing with wind resistance like that

by sicklebeat on Jun 4, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn Marlins CF's

dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove

by GoGregGo on Jun 4, 2009 6:27 PM CDT reply actions  

What a warrior!

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 6:29 PM CDT reply actions  

He's only a warrior if he pitches well

Otherwise, he’s just a walking-wounded

dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove

by GoGregGo on Jun 4, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

or

if he puts on face paint and tights he is the ultimate warrior.

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Alright, that's a fair point

Usually you pay double for that kind of action

dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove

by GoGregGo on Jun 4, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

You need more than the facial hair…high standard sir, high standards.

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jun 4, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Craziness and homophobia

With a dash of ring-wing propaganda to match to the man who said “Queerin’ don’t make the world go round” and has legally changed his name to Warrior Warrior

by pharom on Jun 4, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rock

please stop saying that Bush got bone.

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 6:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Too much innuendo?

dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove

by GoGregGo on Jun 4, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh man...

I miss FSN Wisconsin

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jun 4, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey guys

My slut cat is no longer pregnant

I have a Rickie, a JJ, a Brauny, and a Prince(ss)

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jun 4, 2009 6:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Cats

My suggestion is either freezer, or microwave.

I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 4, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I knew there was a reason you arent allowed near children

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jun 4, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh come on

Cats are high in protein, who wouldn’t want their children eating them?

dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove

by GoGregGo on Jun 4, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I hate them, too.

I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 4, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

But

Maybe he knows how to catch a shark

by pharom on Jun 4, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pics to follow?

Sometime in the future, I assume?

by pharom on Jun 4, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

If there are "rally cats"

I fucking quit.

I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 4, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rally bush

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmmm

needs more boob.

Wait. Am I being too insensitive again?

I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 4, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

what kind of websites

go you go on?

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

do you go on.

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

google image search

google can find everything! =(

by pharom on Jun 4, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

okay

search for “A Bill Hall Who Doesn’t Suck”.

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Might want to put on the safe search filter for that one

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jun 4, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Item Not Found

Did You mean “Matt Gamel”

by pharom on Jun 4, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

send that to Macha

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

obviously he's looking for some p*ssy

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jun 4, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I won't subject you to rally kittens

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jun 4, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you

I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 4, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

no problem

so what is this new SBN Blog you are starting?

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jun 4, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not starting it

Putting the ball in motion for the unfairly, and very funny, axed Deadspinners. I haven’t been killed off, but I’m off that boat, with my peoples.

They have many quality blogs amongst themselves, and it would be easier to conglomerate on one SBN blog than to have a dozen blogs.

I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 4, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

any of the big guns get the hook?

like Weed Against Speed, or Ukraine Not Weak?

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jun 4, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

they killed

a bunch of funny people. I think Weed is still there though.

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Weed’s not banned, but he’s making appearances. UNW, I haven’t seen in a minute.

Mainly, Clinton Portishead, Shakey, The Rookies, Sculptor?!?, Fawn, Iracane, Rickey Fitts…The list goes on

I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 4, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

What happened

I missed why the firesale went on

by pharom on Jun 4, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Daulerio won't say

because he’s a punk bitch

I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 4, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Iracane was booted?

wasn’t he a contributor?

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jun 4, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Iracane was done when Pete Gaines took over being the combudsman. And now Pete got the axe, too.

I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 4, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's great

I didn’t like that Pete guy. The Spin has gone done hill since emo boy left.

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pete's good peoples.

Really

I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 4, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Undead spinners ?

Zombie spinners ?

Spinners Alive! ?

by pharom on Jun 4, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's get the bloody mess that is the miracle of life cleaned up

I’ll have pics next week

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jun 4, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

I gagged at the photographic evidence the wife provided

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jun 4, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

As a mother

and a companion animal nutrition consultant by trade….I’m not reading anymore responses to this. Congrats on the kittens — now get that girl spayed!

by BrewKitty on Jun 4, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

her appointment was 2 days away when she came home knocked up

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jun 4, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

my kittens aren't GRITy

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jun 4, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know

Because when someone asks “where’s the cat” you just…

okay okay fine no love =(

by pharom on Jun 4, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I laughed

That is something I would name a cat. But I am severely allergic to cats.

by morineko on Jun 4, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

after living in Rangerland

I’m ashamed I didn’t pick up on that right away

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jun 4, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Trivia question

Randy Johnson’s 300th win is just about in the books.

Name the Brewers pitcher whose lone Major League hit came against RJ.

(I realize you can look it up)

by Et tu Brewte on Jun 4, 2009 6:37 PM CDT reply actions  

I know the one who got his first ML hit off RJ

…and it’s not the same guy, so that’s useless.

by morineko on Jun 4, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't look it up,

but I guess Ben Sheets

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jun 4, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was grading on a curve...

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jun 4, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dae-Sung Koo

Er…needs to be a Brewer…

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by TheJay on Jun 4, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

An easy one would be

Who was the first and only Pitcher to get a homer off of the Big Unit?

Like I said, very easy =(

by pharom on Jun 4, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ben Sheets!

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Jun 4, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh

I have no idea who that is.

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by TheJay on Jun 4, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd say that one hit

Counts as his career highlight. I didn’t remember him either when they mentioned him on the Nats broadcast today.

by Et tu Brewte on Jun 4, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baserunning

FAIL

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 6:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Big Prince!

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 7:00 PM CDT reply actions  

FATSO!

I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 4, 2009 7:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Prince

Ties his career high for triples in a year.

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by TheJay on Jun 4, 2009 7:01 PM CDT reply actions  

A mobile Prince Fielder

Is like Nixon with Charisma, FEAR IT people

by pharom on Jun 4, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cynthia

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Prince stole 9 bases one year

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by TheJay on Jun 4, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm gonna hit it down to the Chocolate Factory in Cedarburg`

Anybody joining me?

I don't hate Kendall like everybody else, I'm a non-conformist like that.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 4, 2009 7:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Geez

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by TheJay on Jun 4, 2009 7:16 PM CDT reply actions  

You have got to be fucking kidding me

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 7:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Are you friggin' kidding me?

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jun 4, 2009 7:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Center Field?

What was that, a BP pitch?

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jun 4, 2009 7:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Youch

Thanks BA for the jinx.

by SgtClueLs on Jun 4, 2009 7:18 PM CDT reply actions  

gave up

a dead center field HR to the pitcher? hoooolllyyyyyy shit.

by Wizzyconsin on Jun 4, 2009 7:19 PM CDT reply actions  

it was a huge bomb

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ouch

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 7:22 PM CDT reply actions  

I blame TheHappyYoungster

For motivating the Fish with hate that’s been turned to productive.

by SgtClueLs on Jun 4, 2009 7:23 PM CDT reply actions  

I still can't believe

Any self-proclaimed “big fan” of a team can wear the opposing clubs hats and merch just to get another ball to add to their collection of hundreds, I keep hoping its all some hoax and one day Snopes will have an entire article about how there really isn’t a fan that poor

by pharom on Jun 4, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fuck you Ross

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 7:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Seriously

Arrest that man for repeated theft

by pharom on Jun 4, 2009 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

he will probably

get traded to the Cubs

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

So...

what has this series exposed the most and who should we be actively be pursuing?

by Wizzyconsin on Jun 4, 2009 7:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey now

At least we haven’t given up 6-10 runs in an inning yet, right? RIGHT?

… I should hold my tounge until after the game =(

by pharom on Jun 4, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

well,

there was the matter of a pitcher sending a ball into the Atlantic… but thats more Bush’s problem than a team thing…

by Wizzyconsin on Jun 4, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

ugh

why did you have to bring up that series? Salt, meet my pal Mr. Wound.

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really wanted to believe

That series was just marred by the ESPN/Primetime curse, but no, no =(

by pharom on Jun 4, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually,

it was the dumbass Brewers fans who kept chanting “Let’s go Brewers” in the opposing team’s stadium. Predictable karma beatdowns occurred shortly thereafter.

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jun 4, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its proving hard enough

To setup Miller Park South in division, they shouldn’t be working towards Miller Park West just for interleague play =(

by pharom on Jun 4, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope...

it was a disheartening series. But at least the tickets were cheap, and I got to see Cammy’s 250th homer. It made up for the teasing I faced the rest of the week…kinda

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jun 4, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

So...

… the offense is going to catch fire again at some point, right? I mean, without the benefit of the walks and errors that gave us the win last night?

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 4, 2009 7:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Ummm

Not sure how to say this.. but what’s up with Cams junk?

No I didnt notice, the GF did.

by SgtClueLs on Jun 4, 2009 7:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Watching Johnson and Bush battle

Makes things a little tight, gotta adjust the boys?

by pharom on Jun 4, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Christ

those strikeouts were painful.

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 7:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Rivera>Kendall

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 7:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Okay Jet's fan...

with backup QB syndrome

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jun 4, 2009 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

not so much

I agree with the MF

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jun 4, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know...

but really, how much better would Rivera be, or is he just not Kendall?

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jun 4, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

tell me

Is his BA still better than Ken-Doll’s OBP? The fact that I have to ask that question should tell you why he would be better

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jun 4, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's funny

Even though his average was better than Kendall’s OBP, his OBP wasn’t. The fact he drew a walk tonight helped there though.

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by TheJay on Jun 4, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

OBPS comparison still favor Rivera?

Or is there enough of a difference to make up for Kendall?

by pharom on Jun 4, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Rivera should at least catch Parra along with Bush

It’s not like Kendall has helped Parra much.

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by TheJay on Jun 4, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like that idea

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course Rivera might not survive starting 40% of the games

He seems to get dinged up somehow every time he’s out there.

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by TheJay on Jun 4, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why do you all want to hurt Ken Macha

Bodily harm has been threatened upon him when it comes to giving Kendall more days off, poor guy =(

by pharom on Jun 4, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or...

Rivera should catch Parra’s replacement

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jun 4, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

McClung to Rivera it is

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bill Hall.

At least he hit it hard.

Sort of.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 4, 2009 7:56 PM CDT reply actions  

So

who thinks the Crew has a comeback in them tonight?

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 8:03 PM CDT reply actions  

they have the top of the order coming up at least

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on Jun 4, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's go time

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where did that one miss?

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on Jun 4, 2009 8:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Big Question for Next Series

You can remove the pitcher from Pittsburgh, but can you remove the Pittsburgh from the pitcher?

Domination steak won’t be on the line vs the Brave McClouth, but moral victory will?

by pharom on Jun 4, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Braun

nice rip. Come on Prince, bring him in.

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 8:14 PM CDT reply actions  

AWESOME!

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

One out of two ain’t bad!

by pharom on Jun 4, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yay Prince

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by TheJay on Jun 4, 2009 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

BOOM!!

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on Jun 4, 2009 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

PRINCE!!!

"I think this decision could go either way," Baseball Tonight legal analyst John Kruk said.

by ZTK Always on Vacation on Jun 4, 2009 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Great shot Prince!!!

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Prince

always looks like he’s swinging out of his shoes

by Gallardo's Right Arm on Jun 4, 2009 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Cameron

no golden sombrero please

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 8:19 PM CDT reply actions  

4 Ks

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I knew

I was trying to reverse the jinx…

by keephopealive on Jun 4, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

damn

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jun 4, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's wearing it

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

yet no reaction to the carridine link...

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jun 4, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

HELLZ FUCKING YEAH!!!

That was almost as awesome as THIS

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jun 4, 2009 8:19 PM CDT reply actions  

that is good stuff

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

thanks for the pity reply

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jun 4, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

anytime

it was funny though.

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

JJ with the cannon

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 8:27 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm still in awe of Cutter's 96 MPH Cutter

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jun 4, 2009 8:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Just got here...

I wish we had something to rally around ;)

"At least we still have math on our side" - Ned Yost

by Prentice on Jun 4, 2009 8:30 PM CDT reply actions  

God I could use a rally

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jun 4, 2009 8:30 PM CDT reply actions  

someone find a lobster

"At least we still have math on our side" - Ned Yost

by Prentice on Jun 4, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

hope this helps...

"At least we still have math on our side" - Ned Yost

by Prentice on Jun 4, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

woo!

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

looks like I picked a bad week

to stop rallying

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lead man on!

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 8:31 PM CDT reply actions  

PH for Hall is even better

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by TheJay on Jun 4, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ugh

Figures.

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by TheJay on Jun 4, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

especially since Macha has said he doesn’t think Gerut can get a bunt down

by juggernaut400 on Jun 4, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fuckers

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 8:33 PM CDT reply actions  

ruh roh raggy....

"At least we still have math on our side" - Ned Yost

by Prentice on Jun 4, 2009 8:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Well

Mike Rivera hasn’t had a clutch HR in a while.

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by TheJay on Jun 4, 2009 8:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Rivera hasn't hit a HR yet this season

Just sayin’

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Jun 4, 2009 8:34 PM CDT reply actions  

not saying...just saying...hope it works

"At least we still have math on our side" - Ned Yost

by Prentice on Jun 4, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn

not a fun series.

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 4, 2009 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Well, at least this surreal series is over.

Playing the Braves will feel like we’re in the majors again.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 4, 2009 8:36 PM CDT reply actions  

major league fans and announcers

may take the suck out of this team… I’ll buy that.

by Braun Holio on Jun 4, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

In other news...

Carpenter is though 6 innings with only 63 pitches and 2 hits.

:(

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Jun 4, 2009 8:37 PM CDT reply actions  

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