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Yes, that is Jason Kendall stealing a base. (AP Photo/John Amis)

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Yes, that is Jason Kendall stealing a base. (AP Photo/John Amis)

Today the Brewers are off, but there is no shortage of news, links, rumors, speculation, and other intrigue from around baseball.

The Cub Reporter has a draft preview for the Cubs, and because they pick two spots behind the Brewers, you'll recognize names of several players as Brewer draft targets as well. Fangraphs also wrapped up their draft preview series. For some college hitter info, check out this post at Beyond the Boxscore.

After I quickly pass along the details of the Brewers' next fantasy camp, we'll delve into some Brewer issues.

The Junkball Blues looks at situational strategy, baserunning, and small-ball. As discussed in yesterday's post-game thread, I'm fine with what he's been doing. There are situations in which a sacrifice is a decent play, but those situations are very rare. Tom talked about the issue, and Macha's reasoning. Here's more good stuff from CZWief on bunting strategy.

Our own contributor Nicole has a story at her blog with a bunch of pictures from a T-Rats game.

Prince Fielder is hitting very well, and Dave Bush is progressing. Their stats are decent, but I still don't like RBI being referred to as an "individual statistic". And in the notes on the bottom, Mike Cameron will probably just be fined for his ejection in Atlanta for arguing balls and strikes.

This is pretty good, but I find it hard to understand all of the Manny Parra hatred, though. I'll let you know when his BABIP allowed comes below .350, or his strand rate gets back up to 70%, or Chipper Jones stops hitting ridiculous 3-run homers on good splitters down and away. Rambling Al "would have pulled the plug before today", which I would find defensible, but I do find laughable considering his continual mocking of anyone who suggests that Jeff Suppan is a bad pitcher as a "casual". I am completely convinced that Parra has been a better pitcher this season than Jeff Suppan, and I would love to see an argument that explains how Suppan could be considered a better pitcher going forward.

Ladies and gentlemen, Woody Paige. Sometimes I wish Fire Joe Morgan were still around. This edition contains several awesome lines, and it seems to be written in free verse:

Defense: Imagine Willie Mays being cloned in the 1950s, and he and Willie II playing in center and left field. Dexter Fowler and Carlos Gonzalez are real deals in the outfield.

So, two above average outfielders both equal Willie Mays? Couldn't he have come up with a comparison to a left fielder?

I would trade Hawpe, Phillips, Garrett Atkins, Ryan Spilborghs, Manuel Corpas, Omar Quintanilla and Jason Hirsh, plus cash and a player or three to be named later, to the Blue Jays for Roy Halladay — Arvada's own, who won a major-league-high 10th game on Sunday.

Besides the utter absurdity of the deal-- hey, lets pretend to trade a bunch of crappy major leaguers and a few average ones for the best pitcher in baseball, video-game style, like he doesn't know any of the Rockies' minor leaguers-- he then suggests that if this deal is turned down, he would offer the same deal to the Nationals for John Lannan or Shairon Martis. So, in terms of Woody Paige Value, Halladay=Lannan=Martis. I feel grateful for Tom Haudricourt.

Livan Hernandez has surprised me and everyone else by not being utterly ineffective this year, and his good start is actually backed up by decent numbers: a 5.35: 2.67 K/BB ratio and 4.22 FIP is far better than, oh, Jeff Suppan's, at 4.81: 4.24 and 6.11 FIP. Hernandez's tERA is also in the low 4 range, while Suppan comes in in the high 5s. But it's a good thing Suppan the stabilizer is in the rotation, because where could we ever find spare parts capable of pitching better than him?

Carlos Marmol pitched innings 27-85, with Austin Wood taking over afterward.

In a not-quite-as-long game, the Dbacks beat the Padres 9-6 in 18 innings. The winning homer by Mark Reynolds was hit off of Padre infielder Josh Wilson, who had already pitched this year... for the Dbacks. Here's the awesome win probabliity graph. Dbacks relievers threw 9 consecutive no-hit innings at one point in the game.

Rob Dibble and Rob Neyer had a Twitter fight about each other's education, the status of the Nationals, and the low strike call to Adam Dunn in Randy Johnson's 300th win. I have no idea why the Giants would start Randy Johnson on three days of rest, in Florida, in his next start tonight.

Negative/backwards baseball cards are always fun. There's even a Brewer error for your time.

The Royals issues were inevitable, but the mainstream media overlooked Dayton Moore's failures. Royals fans deserve better.

Ian Kinsler is the subject of an interesting profile about scouting, the draft, and MLB player development. Good story from the Dallas Online Magazine.

Former Cub Rich Hill had been pitching well, but he reverted back to 2008 form again with a sub-1 inning start. Now there's a pitcher with intellectual problems.

Joe Posnaski discusses Tom Glavine. It is, of course, well-written.

No game today for the Brewers, but there will be at least one post today from me about pitch types and production. Tomorrow is a big day, as the Brewers return home to play the Rockies and the MLB Draft gets underway tomorrow night.

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I am excited about the MLB Draft

I am expecting a lot of articles on how the Brewers were screwed by the draft system in the next couple of days…

Also the first time I will be able to watch it on TV…

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on Jun 8, 2009 10:20 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i quit reading al

for a number of reasons a couple months back. one of them definitely was his defense of suppan v/ his visceral hatred for parra. for a guy that has a pretty level head about most things baseball, he gets riled up about that kid. won’t try to speculate as to why, but if anyone reads his non-baseball related posts i’m sure they can come up with something. nice to get updates on what he’s saying over there though, withough reading the shit.

by goirish2107 on Jun 8, 2009 10:23 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He's on KL's mug reading list

along with about 500 other blogs and feeds. 2/3 posts there are political, so I skip over most of them.

Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.

by Jordan M on Jun 8, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Parra is anti-Wal-Mart?

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't understand

Yesterday, they “played for the win” with Kendall batting. There was a runner on first, and Kendall is a notorious GIDP guy. Fine. Whatever. But then, after the DP, why does Rivera get sent with 2 outs? If you are going to play for the win with 0 outs, then play for the win with 2 outs. Am I missing something?

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jun 8, 2009 10:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

red light green light

I’ve heard Macha a couple different times – as recently as this week (?) on radio with Uke – say that essentially everybody has a “green light” to steal on their own. Now, whether that extends to backup catchers, and two out one-run 9th inning situations, I certainly can’t say.

But it is possible that Rivera went on his own.

by robertearle on Jun 8, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the TV broadcast, they said that he wasn’t being held on at all. The 1st baseman was playing back near the grass. I would say that he got such a good lead that he had to take off.

by Saberilliterate on Jun 8, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Feel Free to spike your kool-aid tomorrow, Jordan.

We aren’t going to criticize you for it.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jun 8, 2009 10:41 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Playing for the Win

I have always had a hard time wrapping my head around that concept in baseball. Not that I don’t think it is a valid strategy but I never think of the dynamic of the game that way.

by Bernie's Mustache Wax on Jun 8, 2009 10:42 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That is not just in baseball

You hear it in other sports as well, In basketball, if a team is down 2 pts in the final seconds, they will play for 2 and the tie if they are at home or the 3 and the win if they are on the road

"You are only a success at the moment that you do a successful act"
-Tex Winter

by stork02 on Jun 8, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the idea works better in basketball and football.

You do something at the end of a football game that makes sense with 30 seconds left that would be ridiculous if you did it in the middle of the second quarter. 30 seconds left and no time outs it becomes a solid strategy to run out of bounds as opposed to trying to gain extra yardage. The nature of how the game moves dictates that reversal of strategy.

Baseball always seemed kind of different to me, with the nature of the game being a set number of outs as opposed to a time limit. Bunting in the ninth inning to move the runner over wouldn’t seem to be any more strategic then bunting him over in the second inning.

Again that is just me and I am sure this evidence that would point otherwise.

by Bernie's Mustache Wax on Jun 8, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Basically

I am saying Jason Kendall should constantly be sacrifice bunting. ;)

by Bernie's Mustache Wax on Jun 8, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In football and basketball there is no distinct advantage of being the “home” team. The visiting team has the same chances of winning the flip/tip in overtime as the home team.

by juggernaut400 on Jun 8, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

technically yes,

but don’t pretend that there isn’t still home-field advantage in football and basketball. It may be mental or subconscious or whatever but the records show there is definitely an advantage in those sports.

by hamburgular17 on Jun 8, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not just mental/subconsious

It’s indoor vs outdoor. It’s weather conditions. It’s lighting and how close the crowd is…. Basically, it’s comfort

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jun 8, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure, but then the question becomes (for basketball)...

is the homefield advantage for overtime period(s) larger than the added difficulty of trying to score 3 for a win instead of 2 for a tie, i.e. are you at such a disadvantage that it’s indeed optimal to try to win right away. I’m not really into basketball, but that strikes me as one of those issues where the conventional wisdom might well be wrong.

by Zeyes on Jun 8, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, isn't that the question for all sports?

Does the added difficulty of scoring a TD instead of a FG outweigh the difficulty of scoring first in OT on the road?

Does the added difficulty of getting one more big hit outweigh the difficulty of winning in extra innings on the road?

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jun 8, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure...

I was mostly just trying to split the difference between juggernaut and hamburgular’s posts. In any case, I wouldn’t say it’s a question for all sports – goal-scoring in soccer for instance is sufficiently difficult and rare (and of course always worth just the same number of “points”) that this question doesn’t really arise.

by Zeyes on Jun 8, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Soccer

If we’re talking soccer, I think we have to throw in the argument of whether or not you will be killed by a crazy fan for winning on the road :)

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jun 8, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh.

After thinking about it some more, perhaps the NHL makes for a better-structed argument. Now, I haven’t watched a hockey game in at least 15 years so I’m even more out of my depth than with basketball – do away teams ever take out their goalie or do other drastic stuff late in tie games?

Because that’s the issue I was trying to get at (somehow, anyway) with the soccer example – in some sports your available late-game tactical choices just aren’t granular enough that the question of “go for a regular-time win vs. try to overcome the homefield advantage in overtime” ever applies, no matter how large or small the homefield advantage might be in a given game.

by Zeyes on Jun 8, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

(Note: I’m talking about the subset of soccer games that can actually go into overtime, i.e. cup competitions.)

by Zeyes on Jun 8, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great read on Ian Kinsler

Great story… life as a scot must be difficult, but hanging your hat on something like that must be rewarding…

Here’s to hoping the Brewers find a late draft pick surprise… I believe Corey Hart was an 11th round pick… hopefully some more of those are in store for the Brewers…. any other late round picks that are starters/ quality players for the Brewers?

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on Jun 8, 2009 11:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Manny Parra in the 12th round

by Supertramp on Jun 8, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude he said quality players/starters

Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.

by Jordan M on Jun 8, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I thought he meant players we needed to have “pulled the plug” before yesterday. My bad.

by Supertramp on Jun 8, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Slight Correction...

Parra was a 26th round pick in 2001.

by TheBurningRom on Jun 8, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Life as a Scot

Hey, I’m of Scottish heritage. Yeah, life can be difficult, but somehow I persevere.

Oh, wait, you mean life as a Scout.

Carry on…

by cmow on Jun 8, 2009 11:20 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If it's not Scottish, It's CRAP!

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jun 8, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who put the Mescaline in Paige's coffee?

Seriously, that’s ridiculous. It was almost as incoherrent as a Bill Plashke column. And to think, the WWL pays these guys hundreds of thousands of dollars to be on TV sodomizing your ears every day on Around the Horn.

So lets see here, the Rockies give Atkins (who would replace Scott Rolen), Paul Phillips (an emergency catcher), Ryan Spilboughs (who would take over for… Vernon Wells? Alex Rios? Travis Snider? Adam Lind?), Manny Corpas (below replacement reliever), and Jason Hirsh (a failed prospect) for Roy Halladay. Yeah, I’m sure Richardi is all over that one. What a moron.

It makes me wish the Rocky Mountain News instead of the Denver Post survived so no one would have to be subjected to this.

It truly brings the description of columnists to life. The purpose of columnists is to make the general public feel better about themselves. They can look at Plashke, Mike Hunt, and Paige, and say, “I’m smarter than this asshat,” and be completely correct.

And people wonder why newspapers are dying.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jun 8, 2009 12:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I just liked the part where he said

if the blue jays didn’t accept the package, he’d offer it to the Nationals for one of two average-ish pitchers. It’s like this one, where he suggested trading Matt Holliday for the likes of Sabathia, then Rich Harden, then Cliff Lee before he got good again, and then “Time Lincecum and a few prospects”. He’s in his own little video game.

Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.

by Jordan M on Jun 8, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

clearly Paige has no concept of value

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jun 8, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

or anything else, for that matter

At least he didn’t try to trade matt holliday for Vince Young

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jun 8, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he's trying to get Lebron for Jhulys(sp?) Chacin

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jun 8, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He will trade Holliday for 100 whiteboards/blackboards

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jun 8, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Goodie goodie goodie

Tomorrow is our first trip to the ballpark this year. (Actually, that’s not true - I brought our 2-year-old to the playground and watched some really bad softball at Helfaer field last week.)

Oh, and sorry I hadn’t been around for the last week. A thunderstorm knocked out our Time Warner signal booster and router, so the phone and internet were mostly offline for much of the week.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jun 8, 2009 12:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

cool!

did you buy the 10 dollar loge outfield seats?

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jun 8, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heckling

So, tomorrow, the Brewers start a 3 game series with the Rockies.

I’ve mentioned before that my 9-pack seats are in LF, and we tend to heckle the opposing Left Fielder. Well, the Rockies’ have Seth Smith out there. I don’t know anything about this guy, so here’s what I’m thinking.

First half of the game: continuously call him Holliday. Maybe ask Holliday if he’ll sign an autograph.

5th inning and on: Start asking why Holliday is so small and bad at baseball.

Any thoughts?

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jun 8, 2009 1:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and he was Eli Manning's backup at Mississippi!

Eli Manning jokes would work….

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on Jun 8, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

backups

Wait, so the Rockies have Todd Helton, who was Peyton’s backup at Tennessee, and Seth Smith, who was Eli’s backup?

Strange.

by cmow on Jun 8, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And we thought Melvin was weird

for his obsession with former Texas Rangers.

by ecocd on Jun 8, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

can we expect the Rockies to sign

the other Manning brother, Cooper Manning’s back up WR, where he played in HS… now that would complete the strangeness… but this should be talked about more, I agree!

The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.

by Kyguy922 on Jun 8, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is way too complicated...

but his TotalZone ratings in the minors have been ATROCIOUS. As in, worst defensive player in organized baseball atrocious. As in, John Vander Wal with a broken knee, dazed by Vicodin atrocious.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jun 8, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's awesome

I’ll be sure to tell Holliday that he’s out of position a few times.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jun 8, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean Willie Mays

Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.

by Jordan M on Jun 8, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, left field huh?

So, uh, does that mean you will see Ryan Braun? And, uh, could yell out some digits? ;)

"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"

RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving

by kirbir on Jun 8, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I yelled out your digits

Wouldn’t Braun think I was giving him MY phone number? I’m not so sure he’d call.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jun 8, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

One where she's wearing a remetee?

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jun 8, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll blow $80 on that chance

"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"

RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving

by kirbir on Jun 8, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd for truth

Stop going through my photobucket!

"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"

RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving

by kirbir on Jun 9, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rockies complete the 4-game sweep of Cards

Let’s hope they cool off in the next 24 hours.

by Brew Angel on Jun 8, 2009 3:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Parra

The frustrating thing about him is the 5+ walks per nine innings. If he’s walking that many guys, the excuse he’s getting unlucky starts to wear thin. I mean, sure, he’s unlucky, but crappy minus the unlucky part is still crappy. I guess it’s encouraging he hasn’t as walked many guys these last two starts, but it’s hard to understand how a guy can have decent control in the minors and then lose it so badly in the majors without some external factor whether physical or, annoying as it might be, in his head.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Jun 8, 2009 5:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think he freaks himself out

Being someone who freaks herself out, it’s pretty easy to see that he gets extra worried about his ability to pitch well. What he really needs is a confidence booster along with working on his control. I’m starting to think that it might not be such a bad idea to send him down to the minors for a little while. Maybe if he pitches well there, he’ll have the confidence to know he can pitch well anywhere.

"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"

RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving

by kirbir on Jun 8, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's the point though

8 strikeouts and 5.5 walks is quite a lot better than oh, Suppan, with 4.8 strikeouts and 4.2 walks. Parra has not pitched well, or up to my expectations— I expect a 4.20ish Fip and he’s at about 5. He’s not getting the job done, and maybe it is somewhat mental. Maybe it’s just the fact that I’ve used pitching stats like Fip and tRA so much that I completely disregard the ERA, but Parra has been a better pitcher this year than Suppan and Looper. It’s the difference between him struggling right now and being a borderline 4 or 5 and him finding the control and being a low 4 guy and a 2 or 3 on the staff. I’d consider moving him out of the rotation for a start ago— but it angers me when I indirectly get criticized every Suppan defense-aided 5 inning start with 2 ks and 3 walks by Rambling Al and then he suggests Parra should’ve been in AAA weeks ago.

A guy with his groundball-inducing stuff, 8 ks, and 5.5 bbs per nine should have about a 5 ERA. That’s not great. But that’s how he should be evaluated, not as a 6.50 era guy.

Scored three times and detonated an indisputable in four visits to the batting box.

by Jordan M on Jun 8, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Suppan's got moxie! :)

I guess I just felt hammering the point Parra has been unlucky so much kind of detracts from the point that, you know, he hasn’t been pitching all that well anyway.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Jun 8, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

backwards baseball cards

linked to that article is another article on misidentified players on their baseball cards

They missed this brewers reference.

(P.S. that’s rickie weeks, not bill hall)

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 8, 2009 7:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was President Obama?

"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.

by battlekow on Jun 8, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cleary that is not Bill Hall

or he would be in the dugout watching the Batt Man.

"He had some firsts," said Brewers manager Ken Macha. "His first homer, his first Major League start, his first error and my first gray hair."

by molitorfan on Jun 8, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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