Game Thread #95: Brewers (48-46) at Pirates (40-53)
Milwaukee Brewers at Pittsburgh Pirates, Jul 22, 2009 11:35 AM CDT
The Brewers are doing their best to make sure you accomplish nothing today, as the Brewers and Pirates get things started at 11:35 at PNC Park.
There will be plenty of time to work after the game. For now, follow the jump for the pitching matchup, lineups, bullpen and conversation on today's game!
Paul Maholm (6-4, 4.28) makes his 19th start of the season today for the Pirates, and his skills could match up pretty well against the Brewers. Maholm allows just .4 home runs per nine innings of work, the fourth lowest total in the NL. He is, however, eighth in the league in hits allowed (129) and second in wild pitches (nine).
Jeff Suppan (5-7, 4.43) will take the mound for the Brewers, taking on the team he made 21 starts for in 2003. The Pirates traded Suppan to the Red Sox for a package that included Freddy Sanchez. Suppan hasn't won since June 12, but has posted a 4.33 ERA over those six outings.
Here's today's lineup: (h/t JS)
RF Corey Hart
CF Mike Cameron
LF Ryan Braun
1B Prince Fielder
2B Casey McGehee
3B Bill Hall
SS JJ Hardy
C Jason Kendall
P Jeff Suppan
In the bullpen:
Trevor Hoffman pitched 1 inning (seven pitches) last night.
Mark DiFelice pitched .2 innings (seven pitches) last night.
Mitch Stetter pitched .1 innings (three pitches) last night.
Carlos Villanueva pitched three innings on Monday.
Chris Smith pitched two innings on Monday.
Seth McClung has not pitched since Sunday.
Todd Coffey has not pitched since Saturday.
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TH has it thusly:
BREWERS
RF Corey Hart
CF Mike Cameron
LF Ryan Braun
1B Prince Fielder
2B Casey McGehee
3B Bill Hall
SS JJ Hardy
C Jason Kendall
P Jeff Suppan
Post updated
To reflect lineup.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by Kyle Lobner on Jul 22, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Damnit
So I worked from home today so I could watch the game. Apparently I can’t, neither the rats nor the Brewers have cameras today. I can’t even watch it on MLB Extra Innings.
Sad.
Can we take an automatic out?
Can we just have Hall as a designated fielder and just take an out? It would save us from having to listen to Hall swing and miss at three straight pitches.
Ed Price of Fanhouse
Tweeted this morning:
“Source tells FanHouse that #Pirates have traded Adam LaRoche. Working on finding destination.”
www.5scorepachyderm.wordpress.com/
whaaaaat?
Come on, couldn’t Theo find someone else to trade for other than LaRoche?
…never mind, this is the same GM who thought signing Julio Lugo was a good idea. (The Rays replaced him with Brendan Harris and that was an improvement, and Harris is not good either.)
the Sox GM or one of the shortstops?
Yeah, Epstein has made a load of great deals, but the other ones tend to be about 95% awful, and 5% epic headscratchers.
Well, if you take away any GM's great deals
Then you’d be left with awful deals and headscratchers…
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by Kyle Lobner on Jul 22, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Take away the outings in which DBow gives up runs, and his overall line is a lot better!
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
Theo is an All-Star GM?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Rootin for Bill Hall
Seriously, let’s go go Billy!!!!
captainbok: What do you like the most about milwaukee
Jeff Suppan: Captain Bok, that is a great question. Does "Bok" mean Book of Knowledge? My favorite thing about Milwaukee are the Brewers.
Agreed
Although it pains me to watch Billy Hall, I do wish him the best, and hope for his sake (and the Brewers sake) he can get back above the Mendoza/Eucker line and give some production to make himself at least tradeable, I think he needs a change of scenery, and without producing some hits/runs, no one will want him and the Brewers just can’t eat his salary.
Personally, I think we got hosed on that one! - Harry Doyle
what's his career line against Maholm?
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Awesome, actually.
16-for-29, .552/.606/1.000
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by Kyle Lobner on Jul 22, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
MLBTR
Jon Heyman of SI.com says the Brewers appear to be a threat to acquire Halladay. He’s hearing Manny Parra’s name and suspects Mat Gamel or Alcides Escobar would have to be involved, too.
So what, it’s a game thread. Too lazy to leave and post in the right place.
Any chance Kendall honestly thought that Joe Kerrigan's name was Dave Kerwin?
When he was corrected, he recorrected whoever corrected him.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Possible
But I like the story better this way.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by Kyle Lobner on Jul 22, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Ryan Braun!
Uecker could not possibly have sounded less excited for that one.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
No kidding
Sounded almost like Ira Glass.
by SgtClueLs on Jul 22, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
And a tote bag?
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by Kyle Lobner on Jul 22, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
NPR loves giving out tote bags
"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin
by sowingwildoats on Jul 22, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
our story today, in 9 acts
act 1: back in the swing of things
"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin
by sowingwildoats on Jul 22, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Act 2: Bless you
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
Act 2: Soup is back.
Long term contract for a gritty veteran, how this effects the club, the fans and the unexpected.
Act 3: Walk the line.
the trials and tribulations of one third baseman’s quest to find his place at 200.
"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin
by sowingwildoats on Jul 22, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
LOL
Good morning to you too.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by Kyle Lobner on Jul 22, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
an 86mph meatball
you’re supposed to keep those over the plate at your stupid restaurant, not in baseball.
"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin
by sowingwildoats on Jul 22, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
i hope billy bought himself one of these and got a rush shipment on it from woot.

"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin
by sowingwildoats on Jul 22, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Wow,
someone must not have told Bill Hall the game started
Personally, I think we got hosed on that one! - Harry Doyle
If Soup gives that run back again next inning ...
so help me God, I’ll … well, I’ll sit here and type angrily. That’s about it.
Brewers sent a scout to watch Cliff Lee
Id rather see Lee in a crew uni than Halladay. Much lower price and next year only gets 8mil as opposed to Docs 20mil
::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami
Yeah
Doc is a beast, plain and simple. I hope they find a way to pull the trigger on him.
by theBrouhaha on Jul 22, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
the 20mil still owed would cripple the club
ontop of all the prospects we would lose? not interested. I still think we are there to drive up asking price.
::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami
by Wizzyconsin on Jul 22, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
how much lower?
Lee is still a Cy winner and pitched a CG 2-1 last night.
::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami
by Wizzyconsin on Jul 22, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
If you're willing to trade Gamel, Lawrie and Parra
the Indians might be willing to send you Lee.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by Kyle Lobner on Jul 22, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
For a season and a half of last year's AL Cy Young winner, at a really affordable price
I think they have a right to ask for the moon.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by Kyle Lobner on Jul 22, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Cliff Lee = awesome
captainbok: What do you like the most about milwaukee
Jeff Suppan: Captain Bok, that is a great question. Does "Bok" mean Book of Knowledge? My favorite thing about Milwaukee are the Brewers.
where is gamel going to play on the brewers in the next 2 or 3 years?
that’s what i try to think about when i think about trading him
Third base.
UZR had him pretty close to breaking even there in his major league appearances.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by Kyle Lobner on Jul 22, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
well....
i have the impression that prince will leave the brewers. I have this impression because 99% of professional athletes who are free agents choose to play for either a perennial contender or the team that pays them the most (Ryan Braun being the 1%). The brewers likely won’t be able to offer either of those things to prince, at least not as well as other teams can.
that being said, he will be traded or lost to free agency, unless we can put together a deal he can’t refuse, which he still might, since prince is sort of a wild card character.
all that being said, i just feel like gamel would be a logical fit at 1st, since it takes no fielding skills whatsoever, which is exactly what he has.
make any sense?
Fair enough.
But Prince is signed for next year, and we control his rights for 2011. So, unless we completely fall on our faces next year, he’s not leaving until July ’11, at the earliest.
And Gamel wasn’t a butcher at third — in fact, he made a handful of really nice plays. He’s a left-handed stick, with power, in a line-up that is sorely lacking another left-handed bat. And he can hit lefties, too.
What’s wrong with letting him play third every day for the next couple years?
Bill Hall battin' 1000 today
captainbok: What do you like the most about milwaukee
Jeff Suppan: Captain Bok, that is a great question. Does "Bok" mean Book of Knowledge? My favorite thing about Milwaukee are the Brewers.
It's nice to see Billy Hall
Batting at the same level as Jeff Suppan….. Go .200!!!
Personally, I think we got hosed on that one! - Harry Doyle
In Hall's defense
Suppan is hitting really well
captainbok: What do you like the most about milwaukee
Jeff Suppan: Captain Bok, that is a great question. Does "Bok" mean Book of Knowledge? My favorite thing about Milwaukee are the Brewers.
How has Ramon Vasquez walked 20 times
in 136 plate appearances? Who in the hell pitches around Ramon Vasquez?
Sounds like I took Gorman outside at a good time.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by Kyle Lobner on Jul 22, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
But I came back too early.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by Kyle Lobner on Jul 22, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
So, who's turn is it for long relief today?
Clung for 3-4 innings?
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Anyone else watching MLB.tv?
This play by play announcer has possibly the worst voice for broadcasting ever.
Cory: "The fireworks are going off."
I guess we can only hope one of them catches Suppan.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Soup Soup Soup....
I want to say I’m surprised or I can’t believe it or something else but i’d be lying
i'm sick of this Jeff Suppan guy trying to be good
he should just stay sucking where he belongs
FIXED
I woke up early for THIS?
One home run, and one MAYBE homerun since I got up and turned on the game.
you may have blinked and missed a second homer before the maybe homer
or thought it was a replay, because they happened so close to eachother
I'm kinda scared of this McCutchen kid
But then I remember he’s on the Pirates, and they’ll f#@k his future up somehow.
by Getting Yosted on Jul 22, 2009 12:24 PM CDT reply actions
ugh
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Who the F is Delwyn Young?
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Is the bullpen even up?
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Ok, yes.
Clung up.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by Kyle Lobner on Jul 22, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
If we can stop the bleeding now
we need the bats to give us some runs. We’re still within reach. But Bill Hall can’t do it all himself!
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Jeff Suppan had allowed one home run in his last nine starts.
Then, all of a sudden, the law of averages caught up with him.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
The two most powerful forces in the universe
1. Compounding interest
2. Reversion to the mean
by Getting Yosted on Jul 22, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
suppan is trying to emulate his idol, john smoltz
both overtly christian, both old as beans, both give up three home runs in one inning cause they can’t get their old fastball by anyone
omfg
I just checked Gameday. What’s up with all the homeruns all of a sudden. He’s inexplicably been keeping the ball down forever and now meatball city? That’s a truly pitiful display.
This has to demoralize the Brewers hitters. How can they possibly go up into the 4th inning with a positive attitude when their pitcher gives up 4 homeruns in 3 innings? All I’d be thinking is, “i wonder their pitcher is goign to give us 4 hanging breaking pitches.” Pathetic.
No worries, the Crew loves putting up runs in the daytime
Sigh.
"I still consider myself the best third baseman in the league" -Bill Hall
i leave for 10 minutes and you guys allow 3 HRs?
shame on you all…
::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami
Don't get your Wizzy in a Tizzy, it's still early
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
i meant you all
not the brewers. you werent cheering hard enough from your desks!
::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami
by Wizzyconsin on Jul 22, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
too busy hitting our heads on it
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
My fault!
I got up early (and evidently miss some innings) purposely to listen to the game. Got up just as the second homer in the third was hit.
Wait
Why is Bill Hall on base again?
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Maybe Suppan is still pitching
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
haha
but seriously, how did he get on base?
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
bizzaro wednesday
the brewers front office thinks we have money
the pirates are looking hungry and hit 3hrs in an inning
billy has a double a walk and an RBI
::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami
by Wizzyconsin on Jul 22, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Right about now
I’m good for trading JJ for some pitching
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
The walk to the mound feels a little late to me
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
Can't be much worse than Chris Narveson.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by Kyle Lobner on Jul 22, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Why did JJ leave???
captainbok: What do you like the most about milwaukee
Jeff Suppan: Captain Bok, that is a great question. Does "Bok" mean Book of Knowledge? My favorite thing about Milwaukee are the Brewers.
i was just going to ask that
brutal batting?
::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami
by Wizzyconsin on Jul 22, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Counsell plays better
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
No kidding...I wish we could start him every day
captainbok: What do you like the most about milwaukee
Jeff Suppan: Captain Bok, that is a great question. Does "Bok" mean Book of Knowledge? My favorite thing about Milwaukee are the Brewers.
I think we need to
Get Kendall and Counsell starting together, bringing back the GRIT for the team
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
he is probably still winded from going from 2nd to home
yesterday, though.
::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami
by Wizzyconsin on Jul 22, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe McClung can get it figured out the way Villa did on Munday
captainbok: What do you like the most about milwaukee
Jeff Suppan: Captain Bok, that is a great question. Does "Bok" mean Book of Knowledge? My favorite thing about Milwaukee are the Brewers.
random thought
how is derosa playing through rickies same injury? was weeks’ wrist just torn to ribbons?
::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami
think its got anything to do with him being a FA this fall?
i dont think he’s got anything to prove really for a contract and delaying surgery isnt a very good idea…
::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami
I assume that means he isn't getting the corrective surgery
which Mr. Weeks is, and did when he got it on his other wrist
Counsell: amazing
captainbok: What do you like the most about milwaukee
Jeff Suppan: Captain Bok, that is a great question. Does "Bok" mean Book of Knowledge? My favorite thing about Milwaukee are the Brewers.
Watch out everyone!
Dave Kerwin to the mound!
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Cam's OBP is .36?
Wow. He’s better than I thought.
captainbok: What do you like the most about milwaukee
Jeff Suppan: Captain Bok, that is a great question. Does "Bok" mean Book of Knowledge? My favorite thing about Milwaukee are the Brewers.
Someone has to take one for the team.
BCB, the preferred above replacement level sarcasm supplier.
by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 22, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's about time for another Braun grand slam
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
Let's hope Cameron doesn't "interfere" again
"I still consider myself the best third baseman in the league" -Bill Hall
C'MON RYAN BRAUN
SMASH!!!!!!!!!!!
::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami
They all seem out
Seriously, just walking one in would be so good right now
captainbok: What do you like the most about milwaukee
Jeff Suppan: Captain Bok, that is a great question. Does "Bok" mean Book of Knowledge? My favorite thing about Milwaukee are the Brewers.
his hit was a pitch inside though
::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami
YES BRAUNY!
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
This makes up for his slump
I love you Ryan Braun (and Craig Counsell)
captainbok: What do you like the most about milwaukee
Jeff Suppan: Captain Bok, that is a great question. Does "Bok" mean Book of Knowledge? My favorite thing about Milwaukee are the Brewers.
Nice to see the 'swing at every pitch' mentality pay off
captainbok: What do you like the most about milwaukee
Jeff Suppan: Captain Bok, that is a great question. Does "Bok" mean Book of Knowledge? My favorite thing about Milwaukee are the Brewers.
Can someone explain why this game is blacked out in Wisconsin
Game is in Pittsburgh check
Game is not on tv in Milwaukee Market check
Mlb stupid black out policy still blacks out the Wisconsin Market check
Sigh
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
I was under the impression
This was an MLB.tv exclusive, at least the announcers have mentioned that a few times
even if it is a MLB.TV exclusive it is still blacked out in Wisconsin
the app on Iphone now allows you to watch every game if you have MLB.TV but the stupid black out rules apply
I have the app and MLB.tv but I am still listening to the game
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
Ueck sounds like he doesn't normally get up this early either.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
I don't think he's on vacation
Take from that what you will :-p
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
He deserves a regular spot with the team
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
That's for sure
When Weeks comes back, we’ll see what happens, but for now he’s our solution
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
McGehee at third, Weeks at second
That’s something I could get behind for next season, without a doubt. For this year, I don’t see the point of not having McGehee on third and Lopez on second for the remainder of the season, aside from days of rest. Counsell is verstile enough to give rest to either of them or JJ. Seeing McGehee behind Braun and Fielder makes me happy
In Nashville
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
Toronto or Cleveland
BCB, the preferred above replacement level sarcasm supplier.
by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 22, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually
It would be great to get him some starts in right field. I have to assume the odds are Cameron won’t be back and the most obvious solution would be to slide Corey over (not saying any of us agree with it, just that it might be the most obvious solution for CF). It sounds like he would have the arm for it, so why not at least give the guy some reps out there for Justin’s sake, the only downside being that’s less reps at 3rd that he would be getting.
BCB, the preferred above replacement level sarcasm supplier.
by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 22, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
WHO THE HELL IS CASEY MCGEEHEEE
captainbok: What do you like the most about milwaukee
Jeff Suppan: Captain Bok, that is a great question. Does "Bok" mean Book of Knowledge? My favorite thing about Milwaukee are the Brewers.
I'm not sure
But he stole your milkshake.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
I think it's just on commercial?
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
your abs are lazy
and appreciate the lack of workout
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 22, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, most likely.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Oh, never :)
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
I went to the gas station/grocery store before the last half inning because i had nothing to drink
They had a special for hand packed ice cream on sale, I took the first spoon full right as Braun made us all happy. I will gladly give karma credit to the ice cream instead =P
Anyone else nervous that McClung is pitching?
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
not that he could do much worse than Suppan
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
Honestly here, who do we have to not be nervous about?
I can’t think of a single member of the bullpen who, in the last month, there hasn’t been a post about being nervous over their pitching. So, I can safely say you aren’t the only one worried, because someone is invariably worried about every member of our bullpen =(
I'm not all that worried about Hoffman, DiFelice, Stetter or Coffey
So, as it turns out, there’s a fair amount in the bullpen that’s not problematic. Chris Smith seems to get it too.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
But that's the thing
I’m not either, but I’ve seen “I’m worried” posts about all four of them in the last month. Two nights ago there was one about being worried over Hoffman and he’s only had… two or three bad outings, only one iffy one was a save situation.
Ueck is getting more Harry Carry like each season
There is a drive way back caught by Sandberg lol
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
It was a surprise homer...
Even the outfielders didn’t seem to be scrambling all that hard to get there, but then none the less it was a homer at the end, but it wasn’t getting reacted to by players or announcers until it was certainly out
I am starting to dislike the Son of Clung
No lead on this road trip is safe when he is in the gam e
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
We've had this conversation about Clung (and other relievers) before
But I think Clung needs to stay in a consistent routine to be effective. Unfortunately, starting doesn’t seem to be the answer, but if he needs regular work to be effective, then he’s not going to last long as a long reliever either.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
CRAP
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
what does this say about Macha that he once again ran Seth out with a small lead
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
Who did you want?
It’s possible Villy and Smith are both still unavailable today.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
do you ever not stick up for bad decisions by the Brewers
I guess winning does not matter
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
It's not that
But you can’t use pitchers who aren’t there
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
I blast decisions from time to time.
You just happen to argue with the wrong ones. And you didn’t answer my question. Given today’s bullpen status, who would you have used instead?
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
If I remember correctly,
he had a sub 3 ERA for most of the year before moving into the starting rotation.
No no no no
You are wrong. Every time a player has a 2-3 week slump you are to immediately forget everything they’ve done before it. And if a player is having a hot streak you are required to point out it won’t last.
Gaaaah
And the happy feeling goes away
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
Meh
It’s still 7-7, Clung’s day is likely over and neither team is probably done scoring.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
thats a Yost move
letting him stay in one hit too long. saw that too much last year.
::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami
and i always think its a good call
right here for instance. he did his job getting out of the inning and even getting the first two outs of this one. but he allowed a run with a double. give him the hook. settle their bats down and make them wait. new pitcher and still have the lead. I know you cant do this all the time but in the case of a one run lead where the guy has a history of giving up another, hes going to get yanked anyways so why not do it right away?
::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami
Yeah lets just let Hoffman pitch the rest of the game!
Oh wait, he can’t. And we have 3-4 pitchers available and we’re likely going to have to use them all today. So if one of them has a bad few batters, you can’t just take them out.
There's four more innings (at least) in this game.
Assuming Smith and Villanueva (both pitched multiple innings two days ago) are unavailable, that means the Brewers need to get four innings out of Coffey, Stetter, DiFelice and Hoffman. Macha left McClung in because doing anything less would have forced him to get more than one inning per guy out of his four remaining relievers, one of which is his closer.
This isn’t Macha’s fault, it’s Suppan’s. If Soup had managed to pitch five innings, McClung wouldn’t have seen the light of day today.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Does McClung have minor league options?
cause it looks like he needs to settle down and work on some stuff, and not in big league games.
The real Corey Hart got abducted at the 08 All Star game
we haven’t seen the old him in a Brewers uniform since =(
i remember a time when corey was good
i’ll never understand how someone that young can see such a decrease in talent
he shows flashes of the old self
no idea why though, it’s kinda awkward, both he and JJ who seemed so awesome and then became streaky alot faster then you’d expect
maybe they're both cokeheads
and just do it too when they’re partying late at night, unlike the greats of the eighties who did it before games (molitor)
Weird to think
Corey has a 7-game hit streak on the line.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
how many runs or RBIs have those hits produced though?
::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami
I was happy for 12 hits.
If they can consistently do that, things will work out.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
i meant just corey during his streak
ill never complain about a win.
::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami
Kendall steals a base, Bill Hall goes 2 for 2
What a day!
captainbok: What do you like the most about milwaukee
Jeff Suppan: Captain Bok, that is a great question. Does "Bok" mean Book of Knowledge? My favorite thing about Milwaukee are the Brewers.
LMAO at Uke
yelling to the fans ’ADAM’S GONE!!’
Coffey might get the opportunity to throw several innings today.
The off day tomorrow is going to come at a good time for pretty much everyone.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
One would think.
The only other options are multiple innings from DiFelice or Stetter, or one inning each for each remaining guy, with Hoffman pitching regardless of the situation and no one left to cover extras…
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Exactly.
Even if it has been a high scoring game, you have to see extras as a possibility.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Yeah, you said that in your last post. I just didn't read it.
Thanks for not pointing it out to everyone :P
Is Burns available today?
They are skipping his next start, but I don’t know when his usual ‘bullpen’ day would be if he were still in the rotation.
by Getting Yosted on Jul 22, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, he could be available I guess.
But this would be two days rest from throwing about 60 pitches.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
It doesn't fill me with confidence either
I was just counting up available bodies before we start asking the position players “Who pitched in high school”
by Getting Yosted on Jul 22, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I was thinking he pitched Sunday
But you’re right, it was Monday, so he’s in about the same boat as Villy, and a little worse off than Chris Smith.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
C'mon McGehee
Let’s see a replay of that hit earlier
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
With an 11:30 start, I didn't expect to say this today
But it’s time for a new thread.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
philly
creeping back onto the cubbies
::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami
And cue the complaining about leaving Coffey in...
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

































