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Some things to read while your voice comes in handy.

The trade winds could be blowing today, as the Brewers have yet to announce a starter for Tuesday, which happens to be the scheduled start day for Mariners starter Jarrod Washburn. Here's today's trade roundup in bullet points:
  • Geoff Baker of the Seattle Times thinks a deal may be afoot involving Washburn, reliever Brandon Morrow and Alcides Escobar and J.J. Hardy. (Also noted in FanShot.)
  • U.S.S. Mariner says not to be surprised if Carlos Villanueva is involved in the deal.
  • Jonah Keri listed a Washburn/Brewers deal as one of nine trade deadline deals that need to happen.
I'm going to break into the bullet points here for a quick aside. Doug Melvin is normally very tight-lipped about moves he might be making, arguing that press coverage and speculation make it more difficult to get a deal done. Why, then, would the Brewers wait so long to name a starter for tomorrow? Assuming no deal is done, Tim Dillard will almost certainly get the start (although Tom H. says it could be Villanueva), so why not name a starter? If the Brewers somehow manage to make a deal today, Dillard could be scratched in favor of Washburn and no one would be harmed. Something doesn't smell right here.

Ok, here's the other rumor-related stuff: Another ugly loss for the Crew yesterday left them 1-12 in their last 13 day games, 4-12 on Sundays and 11-22 in day games overall. The Brewers are now 7-14 in their last 21 games, and haven't won either a series or back-to-back games since beating the Mets on June 29 and 30. View From Bernie's Chalet doesn't see the 2009 Brewers as a contending team anymore. Yet somehow, the Brewers managed to sell out all three games this weekend.

The entire conversation about tomorrow night's starter almost took a strange turn yesterday, as Tim Dillard was warming up in the bullpen following the first inning of yesterday's game, when Braden Looper was struggling with his command early. Dillard sat back down, though, and Looper bounced back with four solid innings before getting rocked in the sixth.

Dillard was added to the roster when Seth McClung was placed on the DL following Friday's game. He has reportedly undergone an MRI on his strained elbow, but no results have been reported. McClung underwent Tommy John surgery in 2003.

Whether Dillard, Villanueva or someone else makes the start Tuesday, they're likely to get an extended audition: After experiencing a setback in his rehab, Dave Bush will not return until mid-August at the earliest. As the Brewers continue to slide downward in the standings, getting 3-4 starts to take a long at long-term rotation options might not be the worst thing.

Manny Parra struggled over the weekend while pitching to Jason Kendall, after pitching well to Mike Rivera for two straight starts. Over in the FanPosts, Saberilliterate wonders if Kendall really does call a good game, and if he's partially responsible for Parra's struggles.

He's probably not a long-term rotation option, but the Brewers signed Jesus Colome to a minor league deal over the weekend and he debuted last night, striking out three in two scoreless innings for Nashville. With the Brewer bullpen overworked and largely ineffective at present, Colome could probably work his way to the big leagues pretty quickly if he performs well in AAA.

Elsewhere in the minors:
  • The Brewers signed supplemental pick Kyle Heckathorn over the weekend, agreeing to a $776,000 bonus and inviting him to major league spring training next spring (Also noted in FanShot). The Brewers had to overpay for Heckathorn a bit to convince him not to go back to college, but he sounds excited to get his career started, once he's done buying a new pickup truck.
  • Alex Periard got a late start to his season after being shut down in spring training, but I had forgotten that he's still pretty far ahead in his development: Project Prospect reports that Periard is the 40th youngest player in AA. Jeremy Jeffress was 27th before being demoted and suspended.
  • R.J. Seidel, who was expected to miss the entire season after slipping on a patch of ice while jogging over the winter, made his season debut over the weekend and Rattler Radio has a link to a nice story about him.
On Power Rankings and whatnot: Around baseball:

Astros: Designated reliever Chad Paronto for assignment.
Cubs: Placed Ted Lilly on the DL with shoulder inflammation. He'll also undergo arthroscopic knee surgery while he's out.
Indians: Acquired pitcher Jess Todd, the Cardinals' 2008 minor league pitcher of the year, as the PTBNL in the Mark DeRosa trade.
Mariners: Placed Erik Bedard on the DL with shoulder inflammation and designated outfielder Wladimir Balentien and reliever Roy Corcoran for assignment.
Mets: Placed Gary Sheffield on the DL with a hamstring strain.
Phillies: Placed reliever Clay Condrey on the DL with a strained muscle in his side.
Red Sox: Designated Mark Kotsay for assignment.
Reds: Placed reliever Jared Burton on the DL with shortness of breath.
Rockies: Designated reliever Ryan Speier for assignment.
Tigers: Designated outfielder Josh Anderson for assignment.

The Cardinals have made a lot of moves this season, but are they building their team in the Brewers' image? Dave Cameron of FanGraphs noticed a severe lack of left handed bats in the Cardinals lineup, and wonders if they'll suffer the same downfall the 2008 Brewers did in the playoffs.

It's a little late to be adding promotions, but tomorrow could be "Surgical Mask" day in Arlington, as Vicente Padilla, who is suffering from swine flu, is still expected to make his scheduled start.

What do you do with a slick fielding shortstop who can't hit .100 in the big leagues? The Royals are going to try to teach Tony Pena Jr. to pitch. I guess they're not out much if the experiment fails.

Here's a cool promotion idea: For $75, the Astros are allowing fans to stand on the field and take pictures while the team takes batting practice. The promotion is available for any home night game. At that price, I think there would be more than a few Brewer fans interested.

On this day in Brewer history: Tommy Harper went 3-for-9 with a double and a home run but it was not enough as the Red Sox defeated the Seattle Pilots 5-3 in 20 innings. Ten years later, Cecil Cooper hit three home runs, including a walkoff shot to lead the Crew to a 6-5 victory over the Yankees.

Oh, and I wasn't able to find any Brewer birthdays, today, but happy belated birthday to Mat Gamel, who turned 24 yesterday.

Drink up.

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Sorry it's late, folks

I’m doing my best to get the Mug up in the 9-9:30 timeframe most days, but Mondays are always a little harder because of the volume of weekend notes to sift through.

Today’s Mug is 46 links and 1246 words long, qualifying it for pleonasm status.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 27, 2009 10:12 AM CDT reply actions  

I know, when I've been asked ...

to describe KL Snow in a word or two (and it happens at least five or six times a day), I’ve invariably responded: “Pleonastical.”

by Rubie Q on Jul 27, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Shouldn't it be "pleonasmic?"

Thanks, though…I think?

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 27, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're indubitably correct, without question.

Thankful kudos for correcting my mistaken error.

by Rubie Q on Jul 27, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

One more awesome link

Over at the Nats Blog, they interviewed our very own TheJay about the upcoming series.

"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"

RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving

by kirbir on Jul 27, 2009 10:21 AM CDT reply actions  

If the interview I went to today doesn't pan out, he might have to

"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"

RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving

by kirbir on Jul 27, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good stuff The Jay!

Coffey is surprisingly fast, as is the Polish Sausage

by molitorfan on Jul 27, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

my wishes

do not trade for washburn…the brewers are not a pitcher away from the playoffs..therefore, hardy is expendable so SS=escobar / trade hardy for a controlled young pitcher now and get something for him. if we were to trade escobar for washburn, even escobar for washburn and morrow i would be furious. the only way escobar goes is if king felix comes to town…

by BrewerBlue87 on Jul 27, 2009 10:27 AM CDT reply actions  

agreed. i was thinking hardy and a prospect for one. just for example (hardy and jeffress for john lannan) too bad jeffress smokes pot :-(

by BrewerBlue87 on Jul 27, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Given that much of the speculation

centers around JJ plus a lower prospect for Washburn and Morrow (a controlled young pitcher) your strong statement that its “not gonna happen” seems misplaced. Do you have any reason for your statement, or is it just your opinion? Just to be clear, I’m not trying to be a jerk, I was just wondering if you had additional information.

by tosabrewfan on Jul 27, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm curious what sort of value Hardy actually has

For a year and a half of a top 5 player at his position, who by most accounts is one of the better defensive SS’s and has been a relatively good hitting SS over the past 2 years or so, I would place his value relatively high. I think I could see him being traded for a young controlled pitcher straight-up. I’m not talking a future ace type player, but a guy that has a decent opportunity to develop into a consistent big-league starter sure.

BCB, the preferred above replacement level sarcasm supplier.

by MadJimiBrewha on Jul 27, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Their schedule is what makes this a difficult call

The Brewers pretty much have a puffball schedule through August. Then they still have 9 games against the Cardinals and 7 games against the Cubs.

If they take this series against the Nationals and end up going 18-11 or 19-10 in August then they’re sitting right near the top of the NL central with 9 games against the Cardinals. Sure that would be a hell of a turnaround, but it won’t be crazy if Hart and/or Hardy heat up.

If the Brewers stand pat and we’re all looking ahead at a brutal September, we’re going to be really ticked off DM didn’t make a move. If Braun or Fielder have a mediocre August, the Brewers could go 13-16 and any trade will make DM look like a moron, because the season will be pretty much over.

Again, I don’t relish the though of being DM. Also, is there a reason everyone seems to be ignoring what the Brewers can get for Fielder after the 2010 season (or in the middle if they’re really far out of it)? I must be overvaluing him, because he I’d think they’d do a fair job at replenishing the farm system.

by ecocd on Jul 27, 2009 10:50 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd rather not trade Fielder

He’s a very good hitter and has shown that he can perform consistently. I think it would be a silly move to trade him for prospects who may or may not work out in the end.

"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"

RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving

by kirbir on Jul 27, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Keep him through full to his FA year?

It seems like the Brewers can’t really afford not to trade him to keep the farm full. They’re certainly spending more these days with M.A. at the helm, but they still need to be cost-conscious, don’t they? Fielder’s the only blue-chipper they have will have pending free agency. Still, maybe you’re right. There are a lot of teams that would give up a chunk of their farm system for him, which means he’s worth that much tot he Brewers, too.

by ecocd on Jul 27, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

is it really absolutely out of the question that fielder can't be held after 2010?

"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin

by sowingwildoats on Jul 27, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, he's under our control for 2011, but I doubt he'll be here...

… he’s gonna make $$$ somewhere, and we’re only gonna be able to offer $$

by Mykenk on Jul 27, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

i am nervous about the west coast trip for the crew...

looking forward to seeing some games live in san diego; and LA. hopefully they will start kicking some butt…

by Jamie in LA on Jul 27, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll be at the padres games as well!

Im going to try and make all three.

::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami

by Wizzyconsin on Jul 27, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

cool!

if you guys get up to LA; this is always fun.

all wisconsinites/brewer fans welcome; even if you didnt go to UW.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/event.php?eid=66094300529

by Jamie in LA on Jul 27, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I made it up to LA last year

for the middle game of the series. That was a great win to be a part of. If you look back at the highlights of the game you can see with my hands on my head as Manny just barely missed knocking a HR directly at me.

::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami

by Wizzyconsin on Jul 27, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I got tickets all 3 games.

My first live Brewers’ games in 2 years. Hopefully i get to see some better baseball than I’ve watched the last few weeks

by CheezeconQueso on Jul 27, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

morrow and his control issues and straight fastball have not shown me anything. in my opinion i do not think we have a real shot at making the playoffs this year. i would like to get more for hardy than a half a year of washburn, even with him i still think we will not make the playoffs

by BrewerBlue87 on Jul 27, 2009 10:52 AM CDT reply actions  

One scout on Washburn: “Watching him and seeing Buehrle, it’s almost like they’re two peas in a pod.”

by Mykenk on Jul 27, 2009 11:40 AM CDT reply actions  

tick tick tick

The suspense is killing me! Is it pretty safe to say Washburn isn’t going to be a Brewer if the trade doesn’t happen by early this evening?

by ecocd on Jul 27, 2009 11:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Heyman on Washburn:
  1. The Yankees called the Mariners about Jarrod Washburn over the weekend. The Mariners say they aren’t selling now, but that could change this week.
  1. The Yanks would have to give up “a top prospect or two” to acquire Washburn.

by Mykenk on Jul 27, 2009 11:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Only $75 to get on the field?

That sounds like a steal of a price. I feel like there would be a very long waiting list should the Brewers ever offer something like that.

::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami

by Wizzyconsin on Jul 27, 2009 11:55 AM CDT reply actions  

How much does the Miller Park tour cost?

They take you into the dugout, on the field, to the visitors clubhouse… It’s not during BP, but still.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jul 27, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Having ball players around and hitting some BP would be amazing though.

I would assume they only do the park tours on off days.

::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami

by Wizzyconsin on Jul 27, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

no, they do it in the afternoon before BP starts

I’ve been at TGIFridays for lunch, and seen the tour go by. The grounds crew will be taking care of the grass, and painting logos/lines to prepare for the game. Maybe Hoffman will do his shirtless rubber band/sprints workout in front of a drooling FSN cameraman as the tour goes by..

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jul 27, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

its only 8$ a person

for 3$ a person more you get to see the batting cages, media room, and the party suites. Someone told me it wasnt all that great. I have a hard time believing them when its only 11$ for all that. Anyone been on the tour before?

::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami

by Wizzyconsin on Jul 27, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

SBNation Standings

Cubs -.5 games back of the Cards.

Well done.

by Mykenk on Jul 27, 2009 12:57 PM CDT reply actions  

MLBTR Update

FOX Sports reports that Tigers GM Dave Dombrowski is aggressively looking for a hitter.

The Brewers are reluctant to trade Alcides Escobar and would probably hesitate to move him for Brandon Morrow and two months of Jarrod Washburn.

by Mykenk on Jul 27, 2009 1:11 PM CDT reply actions  

You'll have to forgive Brew Angel

He keeps watching last year’s games

"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"

RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving

by kirbir on Jul 27, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heck yes he can

He put up a .400 average and 1.100 OPS in the last seven days.

He’s the best third baseman in the league, in case you don’t remember.

by Rubie Q on Jul 27, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shhhh... We're trying to build "internet buzz" without letting Dombrowski know the truth!

If we repeat “Bill Hall can hit” often enough on the interwebs, who cares if it’s true?

by Brew Angel on Jul 27, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just convince the Tigers that the Reds are moving to the AL Central

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jul 27, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't worry, everybody. I'm not dead.

I just have no home internet.

Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 27, 2009 3:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Is it 1992?

::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami

by Wizzyconsin on Jul 27, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

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