Game Thread #80: Brewers (42-37) at Cubs (38-38)
Milwaukee Brewers at Chicago Cubs, Jul 3, 2009 1:20 PM CDT
Hey, it's a day game where no one will complain about shadows! Enjoy some retractable-roofless, open air baseball today as Jeff Suppan takes the mound for the Brewers against Carlos Zambrano.
Suppan (5-6, 4.86) has somehow avoided being the Brewers' worst starting pitcher so far this season, but he has lost each of his last two starts and posted a 7.59 ERA while doing so. He's been a significantly better pitcher on the road, though: Soup has a 6.08 ERA at home and a 3.96 ERA away from Miller Park. Here's something you may not have noticed: After creeping up among the league leaders by allowing 12 home runs in April and May, Suppan only allowed one in June. Hopefully he can keep that up in July, and I can stop making jokes about the special at Soup's Grill: Meatballs served lukewarm and over the heart of your plate.
Carlos Zambrano (4-3, 3.69) is making his fourteenth start, but has just one win in seven appearances since going on the DL on May 3. He had averaged over 110 pitches in five starts leading up to his last one, where he allowed five runs (four earned) in just 5.1 innings. July has historically been a good month for him: He's 24-9 in 39 starts with a 2.90 ERA. He hasn't been as good against Prince Fielder, who is 11-for-30 against him in his career with seven extra base hits and eight walks (.367/.500/.733).
Jason Kendall, who has ten singles off of Zambrano in 33 career at bats, gets the call to lead off today, with J.J. Hardy replacing him in the #8 hole (h/t McCalvy):
Jason Kendall C
Craig Counsell 2B
Ryan Braun LF
Prince Fielder 1B
Casey McGehee 3B
Mike Cameron CF
Corey Hart RF
J.J. Hardy SS
Jeff Suppan RHP
And in the bullpen:
Chris Smith pitched 2.2 innings (50 pitches) last night, and has appeared in two straight games.
Mark DiFelice pitched one inning (13 pitches) last night.
Chris Narveson pitched one inning (11 pitches) last night.
Carlos Villanueva has not pitched since Wednesday.
Todd Coffey has not pitched since Tuesday.
Mitch Stetter has not pitched since Monday.
Trevor Hoffman has not pitched since Monday.
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is this on national TV? Or what’s the excuse for the daygame, now that Wrigley actually has some lights?
I'm relatively sure the Cubs have an agreement with the neighborhood to only play a certain number of night games.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
The Mug didn't take today off.
So that those of us who are still working could still have one at work. :-)
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
nor I
i stupidly scheduled myself for something that would take tuesday through friday to complete, rather than monday through thursday.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 3, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Pretty sure that ...
all Friday-Sunday Wrigley games are during the day unless it is an ESPN Sunday night game. The only night games are Monday-Thursday.
I'm pretty surprised they can get away with that
Since Thursday is often a travel day, that creates about a dozen times annually where teams are forced to play Thursday, arrive late and play another day game Friday.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
This from TheJay, who's obviously working very hard today:
The majority of Thursday games are day games so teams don’t get into Chicago particularly late before Friday day games. The exception would be if the team was finishing a series in Texas or Florida where the CBA says they can’t play day games after June 1.
I think there’s even a special case in the CBA where a team can’t play on the West Coast and then go to Chicago for a day game. Or maybe it’s that MLB can only schedule a couple such games among all teams combined.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Yeah, it was a thrilling day
Not really West coast related (that has to do with flying cross-country) but this is Article V©(7) of the CBA:
(7) No Club shall be scheduled to play a game starting after 5 P.M. if such game is a road game and is followed by a home off-day, unless:
(a) a later game is required to be scheduled pursuant to a national television agreement; or
(b) the road Club is playing at Texas or Florida on or after June 1.
In addition, the Players Association shall grant one additional exception only to a Club that is limited by its stadium lease agreement or a governmental regulation, in the number of day games it may play, and only after the Club has applied for and has been denied a waiver by its lessor or the local governmental authority.
Other getaway games shall not be scheduled or rescheduled to start later than 5 P.M. if either Club is required to travel for a day game, scheduled the next day, between cities in which the in-flight time is more than 1½ hours. In each season, the championship season schedule may contain six exceptions to the rule in the immediately preceding sentence provided that the traveling Club is traveling to Chicago to play the Cubs and the in-flight time does not exceed 2½ hours.
Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.
Why the hell is Kendall leading off again?
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 3, 2009 1:00 PM CDT reply actions
McCalvy cited the fact that he's a .300 hitter against Zambrano.
He’s also closing in on a .400 OBP since June 1.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
fine
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 3, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
FSWI
Says you should make your plans today to spend the 4th in the Dells. Might be a bit late.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Yeah...
… the 4th of August is only 31 days away.
i have a reasonable dislike of Bill Hall.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Out of interest...
are there many other countries where people listening to their anthem put their hand over their heart? It doesn’t really happen in Europe (to the best of my knowledge).
So...
… why is Buddy Hackett delivering the Cubs lineup card on FSN right now?
i have a reasonable dislike of Bill Hall.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 1:19 PM CDT reply actions
Yes.
But on the upside, we can pretend that Suppan is pitching for someone else.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Makes sense.
His performance in red hats got him that fat contract from Melvin.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
all that grit at the top of the line up and no hits lol
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
Just listened to an interesting trivia piece
The Brewers/Cubs play on Memorial Day/ 4th of July and Setember 11th this year…
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
that is not true now that i check sept 11
maybe misheard it
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
so is Sept 11th officially a US holiday yet?
and if not, any prediction on when that will be?
I suppose we don’t get off work for Pearl Harbor day, but it’s still a US holiday, right?
I think I heard perhaps the Cubs play at HOME on those 3 days
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
I blame Cory Provus for the loss yesterday
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
D Lee
kind of wish someone was on base. He deserves a GIDP to start the game.
Coffey is surprisingly fast, as is the Polish Sausage
Y'know what's weird?
My XM hasn’t worked since I ranted about it months ago, but now that I live in Wisconsin (can catch Brewer games over the air) and my new phone can stream Pandora in the car, I don’t miss it a bit.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Yeah
Until my prepaid subscription runs out.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Which is how long?
It’d suck to be paying for a year for a service you’re not using.
by Cheeseandcorn on Jul 3, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I've got another month or two.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
yeah i had a free couple months of XM in my new car
was so close to buying the year, but then gameday came out with audio, so no need! saved me $140
i'm really close to shelling out for XM
but we’ll see if they catch me making a 7-day free trial account every week. I don’t need it for baseball, but there are a bunch of music and talk channels I am really digging. Pandora really doesn’t do it for me
I love Pandora
But it just doesn’t do what XM can. XM is absolute gold for road trips—especially when, like me, you don’t have a CD player.
by Cheeseandcorn on Jul 3, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed...
…. though, since I have a CD player, I dropped XM when I discovered audio books.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
it's just too repetitive for me
I mainly listen to Liquid Metal and SiriusXM U, and having DJ’s which keep up on the newest stuff is awesome. Pandora just seems to play the same old stuff over and over. I’ve had better luck with Last.fm.
Not that it probably matters all that much...
… but would anyone else prefer to see McGehee in the leadoff or #2 spot instead of #5?
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 1:34 PM CDT reply actions
*shrug*
McGehee might be a good #2 hitter, but it’d mean Cameron (1 home run in the last month) or Hart would have to hit #5.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Not a bad day so far
got in 18 holes and now get to watch Brews-Cubs.
Coffey is surprisingly fast, as is the Polish Sausage
If this pace keeps up
You might have time to go another 18 after the game
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
I'll have what he's having
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
didnt miss much
Kendall throwing Fuku out, no DLee grand slams yet
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
i think so
that is what happens when you have good pitching and struggling hitters
The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws.
Z's got some bad body language going right now.
He’s overthrowing. At least in that at bat.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 1:49 PM CDT reply actions
If I worked in marketing...
1. Summer Solstice — Bright yellow, with sunbeam lines
2. Canada Day — Mini Maple Leaf graphics scattered all over
3. Retractable Roof Day — The tops swivel on and off
wow how great a move was it moving Kendal to the top of the order
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
Gritty Groundout
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Anybody listen to Bill Simmons' podcast with Keith Law this week?
They cited Suppan several times as the example of the type of player who never would have survived this long in the AL but has somehow managed to eke a lucrative career by moving to the NL.
Simmons’ condescension toward the NL drives me nuts, but, crap, he and Law were right about that one—even if Bill was pronouncing his name Sou-pan instead of Sou-pahn.
except
about the NL being AAAA compared to the AL. Every year the interleague stats back this up.
Coffey is surprisingly fast, as is the Polish Sausage
And NL teams keep winning World Serii
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 3, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree the AL is superior
But Simmons talks about the NL as if it’s freakin’ Little League.
by Cheeseandcorn on Jul 3, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions
how would one find out the interleague record in NL ballparks
having the DH built into their roster gives the AL a definite advantage in AL parks, but I’m curious what the difference is without the DH
he was pretty right on when he said the Bucks front office is horrible
by CheezeconQueso on Jul 3, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, well..
… doesn’t take a genius, or even a fondness for the NBA to notice that.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
It's true.
I never watch the NBA and I know the Bucks aren’t run well.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Exactly my thought
Chris Berman probably could have noticed that
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the only time bill simmons would be right
is if he said “hi, i’m a dumb douchebag who should thank my lucky stars daily that I have a job at espn instead of having to write my tom brady fanfiction on random internet messageboards”
Manny Parra back
Didn’t he just leave? Sure Seth gave up four in the first inning, but wouldn’t Parra have given up 5? 6? =(
I want Parra to be what we all hoped, but I guess having Yo and Parra both break through as young aces was asking too much
Not yet.
But BA is talking about the possibility.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought they said he had to have a number of good starts before they were going to recall him
Not that Manny could have been any worse than McClung last night
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
Recalling Parra is a desperation move.
Unless the plan was to send him down long enough to have a melt down at AAA and then bring him back up.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Cam made me nervous on that one
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People have to go places for Saturday
Cubs and Brewers just trying to let them leave a little earlier
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
I would hate for McGehees second grand slam to get spoiled for me
before i get to be surprised by it
See what happens
when we clear Kendall the previous inning?
Coffey is surprisingly fast, as is the Polish Sausage
Prince gets hit?
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Wow.
But I don’t think he did it on purpose. His control has been off, and Z’s reaction suggests it was a mistake.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 2:05 PM CDT reply actions
Brewers lead the league in HBP?
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we did earlier in the season, last i knew we had given up to another club sometime in may or early june though
Cubs broadcast says we're two ahead of 2nd place
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well i mean... no it's not nice to get players hit
but i know when we had it earlier there were a few articles being surprised about a non-yankees non-bosox team being the top of the list meant the Brewers were getting noticed… or getting disrespected =(
Zambrano has no idea where it's going right now.
The pitch McGehee hit missed its spot by the width of the plate.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
this is just plain sad
now we have to rely on Hart might as well move on to the bottom of the 4th
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
but I love being proved wrong
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
We score first?
Seems like a while since we did that
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perfect time for a big Z meltdown
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
"The patience paying off there for Corey Hart"
First time that sentence has ever been spoken, I’m sure.
Way to beat yourselves boys...
… three stinking popups with the bases loaded.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 2:10 PM CDT reply actions
Ugh
that’s pathetic that we only got one run there.
Coffey is surprisingly fast, as is the Polish Sausage
all things considered that was a pathetic inning by the crew
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
Z's begging to get lit up.
He’s all over the place, but we keep letting him off the hook.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 2:11 PM CDT reply actions
wind is helping him out two they should have at least 2 bombs off of him already
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
But hey, at least Suppan and Kendall get to lead off the 5th!
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 2:11 PM CDT reply actions
Well, really, batting Kendall leadoff and the pitcher 9th
Isn’t that much different from batting the pitcher 8th and Kendall 9th.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Even bases loaded and a run walked in...
only took like what 9 mins? this game is freakishly fast so far
From TheJay
That second walk was his 30th of the year, putting him just six off his career high in 2007.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Might not have been smart...
… but it looked intentional to me.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Off the hip.
I like that the umps waited to warn the dugouts until the second guy was hit.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 2:14 PM CDT reply actions
Puts Suppan in the stretch though.
Hope that doesn’t come back to haunt him.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 2:15 PM CDT reply actions
"Let's see if Bradley can make them pay for the baserunner"
The Cubs crew makes me laugh
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Great.
Now call Suppan hitting one out down the left field line. Looks like the only way one’s getting out today.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice DP!!\
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And all of a sudden Z is hitting his spots.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 2:21 PM CDT reply actions
Bet the other BCB is going nuts.
Lots of Theriot hate in Cubfandom. Not sure why, as I kind of like him, except that bit about being a Cub.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 2:23 PM CDT reply actions
He has a cool name.
Not as cool as Dr. Mark Schickendantz or Al Albuquerque, but cool nonetheless.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
It would have been a better question
if they didn’t give the answer in the broadcast the other day =(
Nope
Still umpire’s discretion.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
i dont understand this belief that braun is a below-average outfielder
true, that sucked, but i mean…. really, he’s not bad in that position
It must really confuse them
when they hear that he had zero errors last season
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OF errors are misleading, though.
That ball, which made Braun look foolish, was not an error.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
That's the worst I've ever really seen him look out there.
He typically does not look out of place.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
agree
he is having a rough start to the series. Lots of baseball left though.
Coffey is surprisingly fast, as is the Polish Sausage
i guess it comes from his third-base days
but its just stupid to say hes only there because of his bat
now they make us pay for that pathetic inning earlier
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
I'd have to look at the stats
But it seems like Zambrano is the last guy you’d want up in a situation where you need to induce a ground ball.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
or to
have the Christmas ham feed more than one person.
Coffey is surprisingly fast, as is the Polish Sausage
by molitorfan on Jul 3, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd.
Very nice.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Anyone else hear the crowd light up when Soriano hit that ball?
It didn’t clear the infield, but the crowd popped like it was going out onto the street.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
I almost asked if there was a worse lead-off hitter in the league than Soriano
But then I looked at the top of our lineup…
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Could have been much worse
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they returned the favor
from the inning we let them off the hook
Coffey is surprisingly fast, as is the Polish Sausage
there is the Cam we know and love
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
Z's first strikeout and we're in the sixth?
With Cam and Hart in our lineup?
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Bill Hall is resting today.
Z owns him.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
a pitcher owns Bill Hall?
I am going to have to suspend my disbelief.
Coffey is surprisingly fast, as is the Polish Sausage
yes
and Soup (if he stays in) and Kendall to start next inning.
Coffey is surprisingly fast, as is the Polish Sausage
How wrong, how wrong
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Dammit
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
2 on no outs and runner never makes it to 3rd
There are times this offense just makes you hate the game of baseball
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
Cam's AB with 2 on and nobody out was pathetic.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Cameron by definiton is pathetic
I really do hate him I will be glad when he is gone next year
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
Regardless of the outcome of today's game...
…. this is a well-timed good start from Suppan which will (barring extras) spare some wear and tear on the pen.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 3:03 PM CDT reply actions
I love the way
your reply presumes it was the chicken he was speaking about
by MrLeam on Jul 3, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I love it when errors work FOR us
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Another terrible AB with 2 on and nobody out.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 3:06 PM CDT reply actions
I am going to rage
if we don’t at least get a runner to third this inning
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this is getting
really old. Awful with RISP today.
Coffey is surprisingly fast, as is the Polish Sausage
Dammit!!
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Making that mistake twice is inexcusable.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
PATHETIC
PATHETIC PATHETIC PATHETIC
WHY WAS SUPPAN NOT PINCH RAN FOR WHEN HE GOT TO FUCKING SECOND
that’s I done with this team for the rest of today
Oh and our fucking 3rd base coach sucks ass on a cosmic level
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
I didn't think he could either
but he is killing up there!
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I don't know...
… there were 2 out. Do you really think we were going to string another hit on the end of that inning? I don’t really have a problem with sending him, nor do I have a problem with leaving Suppan in the way he’s been pitching.
But what do I know…
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 3:12 PM CDT reply actions
I was yelling to send him too, which looks pretty stupid now
Based on how we’ve been hitting with men on today though, I didn’t trust us advancing the runners again.
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So a) the brewers never steal bases, and b) he's terrible at sending runners.
Why bother having a 3rd base coach, he doesn’t DO anything?
So far, so good
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That went better than i could have possibly hoped
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Ueck's up in the Cubs broadcast booth
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Ughh.
Makes me want to puke that we only got 1 run on Z today. He was ripe for the picking.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 3:18 PM CDT reply actions
OK
we can’t waste a good Soup start and a good Yo start within a 3 day span. Let’s get some runs!
Coffey is surprisingly fast, as is the Polish Sausage
McGehee, Cam, Hart, Hardy, PH (or Suppan)....
…. uh, yeah. Let’s go.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Jordan in Appleton with the email question of the day?
Hmmmm….
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 3:21 PM CDT reply actions
What was it?
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How do pitchers chart their pitches?
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn't that just get asked recently?
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Beats me....
… I’ve been out of state….
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok, the question wasn't dumb, the answer was...
… mainly because they, once again, didn’t answer the question of the day.
Suppan and Z have the exact same WPA for their pitching
Z’s got the better WPA number for hitting because of that RBI
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Isn't that always the case when two starters have worked a tie game
through the end of an inning?
by Cheeseandcorn on Jul 3, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 3, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I see Cam struck out again
boy I am sure glad we did not trade him in the off season
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
I thought you were done for the day?
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brewers are like a car wreck you have to look at the carnage
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
Good analogy
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Because the other options are having fantastic years..
… can’t wait ‘till Gerut’s the full time center fielder next year.
It's true.
Very good day for him.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
yes shame he could not throw like this when they score him runs
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
Do you need a beer or something?
The Brewers are still in a game where they only scored one run and Jeff Suppan pitched. I know not everything has gone well today, but all told, this isn’t as bad as it could be. Not even close.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
I am tried of this supposedly might offense having games like this
They wasted Yo great start now they are going to waste Suppan’s rare gem. Our starting pitching is not good enough to have our offense take the day off when we actually get pitching
Couple that with a third base coach who contiunes game after game to prove he does not belong in MLB baseball as a coach
Yeah I could use a beer
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
True, they're not on top of their game today.
And they still might win anyway.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
It's the red hats
Bill Hall is gonna have the winning RBI again
by CheezeconQueso on Jul 3, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
And it might take 15-16 innings
For the Brewers to use him.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Problem is they're getting nothing out of 5-9.
Macha’s got McGehee battiing 5th to try to get some production out of the bottom half of the lineup, with only marginal success.
I still think it all comes down to Weeks. You’ve got guys (Counsell, Kendall, Hart, McGehee) who should be in the second half the lineup jumping up to 1st periodically since Weeks went down. That takes a lot of productivity out of the second half of your lineup.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Best start of the season?
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
Great, now we have Gerut up second next inning
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
I would have rather CV stayed in for the inning
And Gamel or Cat man pinch hit, has nothing to do with Hart
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
nope. CV had to go
in that situation
::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami
So you could whine something when he gave up the 2nd run?
Lefty vs Lefty. No question in that situation
Baker's a righty...
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
Double switch:
Gerut in for Hart, and I’m not remotely upset. I probably thought to much of him last year, but I can’t believe how little I think of him now.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 3:41 PM CDT reply actions
Hart
as a penance for voting for Corey as an All Star last year, I banned myself from All Star voting this year.
Coffey is surprisingly fast, as is the Polish Sausage
With each passing day I'm a little more grateful...
… that he declined the Brewers offer for a long contract last year.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
whys he not a trade chip?
::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami
because
Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder aren’t GMs
Coffey is surprisingly fast, as is the Polish Sausage
Because Catalanotto or Gerut would have to play every day.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Nice pitching Stetter
Let’s get some runs!
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
Man that hop annoys me.
Probably shouldn’t.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 3:47 PM CDT reply actions
i agree
::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami
Nah.
Getting irritated by it feels a lot like Pujols bitching about the Brewers untucking after wins.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
fair point
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
CMON CREW!
lets give sweet lou a no so sweet aneurysm!
::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami
Why couldn't Catalanotto have been used as a replacement instead of Gerut?
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
What's TGJr's BA?
On second thought, I don’t want to know
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
I love Milton Bradley
So long as he isn’t on my team, he’s comic relief
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
Finckle is Einhorn
Einhorn is Finckle!
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
Gritty Error
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
Why not a Counsell HR?
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 3, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm looking for CC to spray one down the line
and score Kendall
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
How the hell are we not winning this game?
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 3:51 PM CDT reply actions
Its quite difficult to comment on a blog & play pro baseball at the same time
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 3, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
A Brewer win here could set off a huge Cub implosion.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Nice
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 3, 2009 3:53 PM CDT reply actions
I wonder what the score would be without this wind
There’s been a lot of near HRs. Hardy would have 2
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
ohgodohgodohgodohgod
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami
I'll take it
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
BTW
Did Jordan send in the text the booth question?
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
why are we getting our hopes up here
I mean we have been following this game all day we know what is going to happen here
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
Shhhhhh....
I prefer to be blissfully optimistic
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
You're right.
Every major league baseball game has its outcome determined in the first inning. Why do we watch the rest?
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Because the remote is waaaaaay over there.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
when did I mention the first inning
how many times have they failed today?
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
Really, a different sport
Though I guess most baseball failures are another player’s success.
It was a great selection of awesome.
maybe he was saying it will be an obvious
braun smash?
::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami
We boo a lot too.
When we’re not inching to the ledge, like Chris is.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
See Gagne, Eric
Hart, Corey
Hall, Bill
Suppan, Jeff
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Boooo....
… sorry… it’s a reflex every time I think of Bill Hall.
Don’t forget Sheffield, Gary, though I prefer to shout "you game throwing bastard’ instead of booing him.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 3, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
What ever KL
how did that 9th inning work out just like all the other chances they have had today right
god forbid someone is not a pollyanna about the Brewers performance
I will be like you great try guys another wonderful infield pop up with RISP
Loving it
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
I'm not enjoying this either
But that’s mainly because you can’t stop bitching about it.
The Brewers aren’t coming through, and if they lose I’ll be pissed. But right now there’s also a decent chance this will be a game we talk about next week and say “The offense had a down day, and the pitching carried them through it.”
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Lest you think that inning was a failure
Kendall tied a (post-1953) Major League record.
It was a great selection of awesome.
Ok folks
Time to move to what will hopefully be the extra inning thread.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Hold 'em scoreless
Fielder will get it done next inning
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".





























