Game Thread #82: Milwaukee Brewers (43-38) vs. Chicago Cubs (39-39)
by battlekow on Jul 5, 2009 12:08 PM CDT
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Cubs lead the series 2-1
| Thu 07/02 | WP: Ryan Dempster ( - ) LP: Seth McClung ( - ) |
5 - 9 loss |
| Fri 07/03 | WP: Kevin Gregg ( - ) LP: Mark DiFelice ( - ) |
1 - 2 loss |
| Sat 07/04 | WP: Braden Looper ( - ) LP: Rich Harden ( - ) |
11 - 2 win |
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Milwaukee Brewers Sunday, Jul 5, 2009, 1:20 PM CDT Sunny. Game time temperature around 80. |
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It's the second half--numerically, if not ceremonially. We can play the "multiply everything by two" game in the comments.
Lineups:
BREWERS
Hart RF
Hardy SS
Braun LF
Fielder 1B
McGehee 2B
Cameron CF
Kendall C
Hall 3B
Burns P
CUBS
Fukudome CF
Theriot SS
Lee 1B
Bradley RF
Fox 3B
Soriano LF
Soto C
Fontenot 2B
Lilly P
Bullpen:
Trevor Hoffman has not pitched since Monday.
Mitch Stetter threw 1.1 innings (15 pitches) on Friday.
Todd Coffey threw an inning (nine pitches) yesterday.
Chris Narveson threw an inning (14 pitches) yesterday and another (11 pitches) on Thursday.
Mark DiFelice used 29 pitches to get two outs on Friday.
Carlos Villanueva threw one inning (seven pitches) yesterday and got two outs (16 pitches) on Friday.
Chris Smith threw 2.2 innings (50 pitches) on Thursday.
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Finally...
… Macha found a way to work a 3B into the lineup who is an unknown quantity and needs playing time to continue his development.
not.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 5, 2009 12:25 PM CDT reply actions
Seriously
What’s up with that? If they’re not going to use Gamel, send him down so he can get some playing time. Benching him now doesn’t help us in the long run…
Ken Macha brings you this Gamel update from 1930:
“It gets to be a jam. You’re developing a guy, so do you put the pressure on him that he’s going to be up there with guys on base all the time? … In a way, I was put into a little bit of a ‘zim-zam.’ It’s got me flummoxed.”
Be sure to drink your Ovaltine.
It was a great selection of awesome.
Yeah it's tough.
So clearly the solution is to forget he’s on the roster and play the offensive boat-anchor that is Bill Hall in the hopes that he thinks it’s 2006 finds his stroke.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 5, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
oops.
I’m the Bill Hall of font changes in mid-comment.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 5, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
If you thought Bill Hall back in 3rd base was worrying...
Macha was saying the other day that if Cameron doesn’t start getting more hits with RISP he’s going to go with Gerut more often
"I hope your name is Rick"
I saw that.
I wonder if Cameron managed to hold in his laughter until Macha left the room.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 5, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I saw that too, but that's not the best part
Macha, who studies statistical data on a daily basis, is well aware that several hitters in his lineup have failed miserably with runners in scoring position. One of the biggest offenders was centerfielder Mike Cameron, who was batting .129 (8 for 62) in those situations, including .057 (2 for 35) with less than two outs, entering Saturday.
It was a great selection of awesome.
I wonder if he has studied Mike Rivera's July stats
Dude doesn’t even have a hit! Obviously Kendall has to play every day until that changes.
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Worse
In the JS version of Macha’s excuse explanation:
“The long-term plan is getting more left-handed batters in the lineup. In a way, I was put in a little bit of a ‘zim-zam.’ It’s got me flummoxed.”
It was a great selection of awesome.
Lol.
Maybe he forgot that Hall was the righty.
Or, maybe they’re telling Hall to bat left handed.
I mean, what the hell, right?
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 5, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, it's really a tough call.
Should I play the younger guy, with the higher OBP and OPS, who bats left, which I like, and who has been better than expected defensively and who needs playing time?
Or should I play the older guy, who will dip below .200 if he takes the collar today, who’s terrible with runners in scoring position which I’ve been harping on, and who’s been “looking for his stroke” for 3 years?
If Macha’s flummoxed by that choice, he needs a brain transplant.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 5, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Cut him some slack
He is in a zim-zam, after all. I don’t know what that is, but it sounds scary. Maybe an Earthly relative of the Sarlacc?
It was a great selection of awesome.
I was wondering
what a zim-zam was too. Perhaps he’s been studying English EVERY day and has invented a new word.
"I hope your name is Rick"
Either that
or he likes neologism
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
If that's the case, I can understand not wanting to be there
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
Oh, only the starters were up when I posted that
Yeah, just Prince.
It was a great selection of awesome.
Do they ever have more than one player from a team in the Home Run Derby?
It was a great selection of awesome.
Good question.
I am hoping for just Fielder so I don’t need to worry about Braun straining his oblique on every swing.
Misread that as
‘Starting for both leagues’. How would he bat?
I think people were impressed with Marquis
since he has to put up with pitching at Coors all the time. Not that I’m defending the decision, I’m just saying that probably had something to do with it
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
so, you're saying he got the "feel good story" vote?
Yo could use the break anyway, so I really have no problem with the snub
by CheezeconQueso on Jul 5, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Marquis is always on playoff teams
That mean he’s got moxie and should be an all-star.
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If Gallardo really cares about, I'm sorry for him
But I have a hard time getting worked up over him missing a chance to get extra-overworked.
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Contract bonus’s? Plus he could probably make more money once he qualifies for Arby if he can say “All Star” (Look at hackin Hart)
At least we got more then one in ;)
I am SO happy that Soriano didn't get in
that would have been a complete mockery
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
Nah
The complete mockery would be having Milton Bradley in the game.
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
well, ok
but I meant a feasible situation that would have been ridiculous, as Soriano was at least within striking distance in the fan voting
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but, if Soriano makes it,
Yo probably goes over Lilly
by CheezeconQueso on Jul 5, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I was going to say the days rest situation might play into it
Since Gallardo is slated to pitch the Sunday before the game. But Marquis is pitching that Saturday, so who knows.
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Lets try this again
Hung. Over.
Must have hair of the dog.
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 5, 2009 1:07 PM CDT reply actions
This pisses me off.
Isn’t it 2009?
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 5, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Nah, its 2010
You’ve been drunk a whole year…
"I hope your name is Rick"
by MrLeam on Jul 5, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd because I love it
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
fuck
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 5, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey...
… who wants to see Sweet Lou in HD anyway…
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 5, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
What is with the weird start times in this series?
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1:20 is the traditional Cub day game start time,
and they put Saturday games at noon so the local TV broadcast doesn’t interfere with FOX.
They take a norman start time...
… and then add an extra 20 minutes so attendees can scrape the Chicago off their shoes as they enter the stadium.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 5, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Lineup
I just logged in to bitch about Hall starting but I see you guys already have it covered!
Coffey is surprisingly fast, as is the Polish Sausage
It's because
We’re going to score so many runs we needed someone to ground into inning ending double plays to give our offense a rest!
Once again another example why stealing sucks
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
I personally am very happy the Crew will not more than Braun and Prince in the AS Game
I love the idea that You will be laying on the couch resting his arm.
I think the AS experience totally messed up Hart last year and he has not recovered
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
Playing in the All-Star Game somehow convinced him to swing at every slider he saw for the next three months?
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no I think all the hoopla and the lack of time off added to him wearing down at the end of the season
He was tired and frustrated and shot off his mouth about the fans and that just snowball
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
christ
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 5, 2009 1:30 PM CDT reply actions
Terrible read of that ball by Cam.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 5, 2009 1:30 PM CDT reply actions
wonderful
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 5, 2009 1:34 PM CDT reply actions
Another 1st inning 2-run HR for Burns
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Now he just needs a solo homer for the home run cycle this series
It was a great selection of awesome.
at least a solo shot would hurt the least
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
Good point
He’s a very streaky hitter…. and obviously on a hot streak now. Probably would have made sense to IBB in that situation.
Unless, of course, it ends up setting up a 3-run HR
Good play Hall
Now win the game so we can love you a little.
by SgtClueLs on Jul 5, 2009 1:37 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I thought Hall’s month-long streak in which he failed to get two or more hits in a game was pretty bad, but at least he wasn’t Pedro Garcia in 1974.
It was a great selection of awesome.
i don't know how anyone could resist
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
Not for a hundred bucks
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 5, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
They ruled that an error?
According to the cubs broadcast
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
Yep.
Everyone hates Soriano in Wrigley now. Even the official scorer.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 5, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Is it just me or has Cam been a little shaky in the field lately?
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 5, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Cam is god
Just ask BK :)
Let me spell it for you Cub fans O N E H U N D R E D A N D O N E Y E A R S
I like your disdain for authority
We need you. Hell, I need you. I’m a mess without you. I miss you so damn much. I miss being with you, I miss being near you. I miss your laugh. I miss your scent; I miss your musk. When this all gets sorted out, I think you and me should get an apartment together.
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 5, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
Sarge killed a man. With a trident!
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 5, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I've been meaning to talk with you about that
you should probably find a safe house or some relatives nearby. lay low for awhile, because you’re probably wanted for murder
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
Macha: "60% of the time, Hall gets a hit every time"
BCB: “I’m going to be honest with you, Ken, Bill smells like pure gasoline.”
It was a great selection of awesome.
He's made with bits of real panther
so you know he’s good
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
Is that a soft J or a hard J?
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 5, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions
So, what...
… did you just type in the drunken voicemail you left yourself last night?
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 5, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not nearly as young as some of these jokers
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 5, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Is Kendall catching because of burns pitching?
Kendall catching his 8th game in a row.. A game off before the day off might do old man kendall’s body some good.
To be on the safe side, I think we should give him the rest of the season off
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That was a really slow developing fielder's choice
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I propose we now refer to Hall as Mendoza
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I'd suggest we just call him Suck...
… but someone might confuse him for Fon du Lac.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 5, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
careful buddy
some of us grew up there. And are waiting for the day to leave
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So, no help from the Reds today, huh?
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 5, 2009 2:01 PM CDT reply actions
At least they've held The Arbiter homerless
It was a great selection of awesome.
by battlekow on Jul 5, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
So would I...
… but they’re behind us, so I’d rather have them win than the Cards.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 5, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Cubs announcers suggesting that Bradley bat leadoff
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surprisingly no, in cub land
I would applaud that decision
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
A one can be crooked
depending on how you write it
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
I miss Trenni
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 5, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
oh yes
but how good would today’s lineup look as such:
weeks
hardy
braun
fielder
mcgehee
cameron
hart
kendall
burns
:( :( :( :( :(
Almost as good as this
weeks
hardy
braun
fielder
mcgehee
cameron
kusnierek
kendall
burns
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 5, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Hardy is kind of like a Fiery Furnaces song
There are always some really great catchy parts, but the it changes abruptly and I can barely listen to it.
It was a great selection of awesome.
I like that boom boom boom
It was a great selection of awesome.
by battlekow on Jul 5, 2009 2:11 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Big Daddy
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 5, 2009 2:11 PM CDT reply actions
Good bye!!
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
Your hands can't hit what your eyes can't see
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee!
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 5, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Failed
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 5, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha, another gift XBH for McGehee from Soriano
He’s so bad out there.
It was a great selection of awesome.
longest single i've seen in a while
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Yeah, I typed that as it was developing
I can’t believe he’s still on first.
It was a great selection of awesome.
Cam's a good defender though
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has to be better than cubs banter
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
Well, it was...
… not sure how you take that pitch 3-2, but whatever.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 5, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
to the ballpark?
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
Still a huge inning for us
Lilly’s pitch count was at 37 with 2 outs, and ends the inning at 53 pitches
Spiffy
Maybe they can get him out after 8 innings now
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Pink Bat
In a completely unrelated question..
I have a pink 2008 mothersday bat I’m looking to get signed by a player. Anyone remember who used a pink bat in 08? Fielder?
I think Bill Hall did
not that it helps you
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Here's an article recapping the 2008 Mother's Day game
Looks like Hart, Hall, Hardy, Braun, and Kendall. link
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Thanks
Damn, looks like the best choice would be Braun. Guess I’ll have to go at 3am next party to try for Braun.
I would rather
hold up 4 fingers before the AB.
Coffey is surprisingly fast, as is the Polish Sausage
This is the suck
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 5, 2009 2:29 PM CDT reply actions
sigh...
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
especially after seeing that swing
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
this is histerical so far
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
When is enough...enough.. with Hall?
They still have to pay that anchor 8.4 million next yr. That’s a disaster.
Would he be a prick if they floated him out on the waiver wire?
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 5, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
It hurts to say this
Suppan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hall
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 5, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
faint praise indeed
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All-Star final vote released
No Yo or Hoffman…
AL: Figgins, Inge, Kinsler, Lind, Pena
NL: Guzman, Kemp, Reynolds, Sandoval, Victorino
Based on fantasy production
Sandoval DEFINITELY gets my vote
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 5, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
dammit
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
should do the same
But I’m lazy. And drinking.
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 5, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
even if it means an everyday player
such as hardy, hart (and if you can find a sucker for hall) get some starting pitching please
I quit
Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 5, 2009 2:49 PM CDT reply actions
Honestly I feel like we gave them this game.
I’m not normally a big “blame it on the manager” type of guy. But honestly, so many bad decisions today. Completely asleep on the bench I guess.
At least the game yesterday left us all in a feel good mood for the night
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
by kirbir on Jul 5, 2009 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
well
i never gave the crew a shot at winning that game in cleveland monday night, so we’ll see i guess
at least we were hitting in that game though
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Big at bat here
if we are going to get back in this thing.
Coffey is surprisingly fast, as is the Polish Sausage
Let's go McGehee
keep stringing basehits together
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Let McGehee pitch
He’s so hot right now.
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Brewers down to .500 with RISP today
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I hate lead-off baserunners
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I think Gamel should Platoon 3rd with CC and Hall shouldn't even be on the team anymore.
At some point you just need to cut your loses. Maybe even call up Escobar to take the backup infielders spot to give JJ and McGehee days off.
doesn't it kind of defeat the purpose of a platoon
to have two same-handed batters?
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
Well..
We have a 3rd basemen who is to old to play everyday, and a 3rd basemen who isn’t all that great in the field. I’m all for Gamel starting and CC taking over if we’re ahead, honestly.
And as far as I’m concerned Hall shouldn’t ever be playing.
Send Hall down...
Obviously he can’t correct what ever is wrong with his swing in the majors seeing 3 ABs once a week. He’s plus defense, but his Offense is so bad that its a drain. Gamels defense is a bit of a worry, but seems not as bad as advertised.
I’d send Hall down, if he refuses assignment, then well, we saved a ton of money. Hall should get every day ABs in the minors and figure it out. I really don’t see much negative with sending Hall down besides maybe some morale problems, but hey, if you don’t perform you don’t get to play.
"I’d send Hall down, if he refuses assignment, then well, we saved a ton of money."
You have to pay him either way. That’s why he hasn’t been sent down.
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Is 2010 the last year of his contract?
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 5, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, with a chump-change buyout for 2011
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I haven't been this eager for a contract to end...
… since Teddy Higuera.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 5, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
More flexibility
There’s probably some team that will give him a shot. If he’s sent down from Milwaukee, chances are there won’t be much of a hurry to bring him back. Might as well take free agency and sign somewhere that has more of a 3B opening if you have to go to AAA.
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at some point it's a sunk cost
and it doesn’t matter what he’s being paid if any random dude off the street could produce better
The cost is already sunk.
And if he’s below replacement, the question becomes whether they like his upside better than the guy who would take his roster spot. Also, whether they’ve got the stones to publicly acknowledge how wrong they were when they extended Hall in the first place. But with Weeks out and the obvious lack of faith in Gamel at this point they’re an injury to Counsell or McGehee away from disaster. Hall provides adequate defensive depth at both positions, though not much at the plate. Barring a trade that fixes the 2009 problem at 2nd, Hall’s not going anywhere.
We all know it’s going to be an interesting offseason. There will be enough moves made and holes to fill that they probably will talk themselves into keeping Hall around for 2010 (he can play 3 of 4 infield positions and CF), but if they manage to address the rotation and the CF position without creating a hole in RF or at 3rd (if, though it seems unlikely to me, Gamel were moved to RF after Hart is either moved or dealt), then it’s at least possible Hall will be released. I doubt it, but it’s possible. He’s already shown that he’s too good of a guy to turn himself into a clubhouse cancer and force a move. If he would have done that, it would have happened last year when he briefly demanded a trade to no effect.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 5, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Is it a lack of faith in Gamel
Or too much faith in Casey McGehee?
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That doesn't explain today's decision...
… which I’m sure Macha would pin on Lilly being a lefty, regardless of Gamel’s positive numbers (small sample though it is) against lefties since he’s been up.
I haven’t been bitching too much about it to date because it’s hard to argue with the decision to play McGehee when he’s been producing the way he has. Obviously the Bill Hall sighting set me off…
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 5, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe they are vainly trying to showcase Hall for a trade of bad salaries
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Not to steal roguejim's gig but...
if all you’re looking for is another utility infielder to play some more infield-by-committee this season, Heether’s probably your guy. He’s right-handed, too, so if they’re dead-set on platooning Gamel they might as well have Heether as the short-ended side than Hall’s carcass.
He has three years of major league service
So he can reject an outright assignment even the first time around.
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Five years for a regular option down
Three years for being outrighted.
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at least fielder got that one
wonder how this game would be different if he’d gone after that first foul pop
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that was one of the shortest doubles i've ever seen
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He's not
Fox and Roto is reporting that all indications have it that he won’t be ready to pitch in 2009.
2010, but Doug Melvin needs to start sending him flowers and love letters now.
Why?
So we can spend half of 2010 waiting for him to come off the DL again?
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 5, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Hell, I got 80% Suppan love
It’s only the days he pitches I don’t love him…
"I hope your name is Rick"
by MrLeam on Jul 5, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
And to add insult to injury
i have to listen and watch the cubs announcers talk to greg olsen, who sounds as interesting as a wet carrot
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
He seemed to struggle with the words of Take Me Out to the Ballgame as well
"I hope your name is Rick"
not as much as the tune
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
i fully expect a k
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
this game sucks
i’m so disappointed with this
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
wasn't a must have series
but certianly losing 3 of 4 not ideal……long way to go still but concerned as the cubs do get healthier, the cards aren’t going anywhere and the starters for our beloved crew are so up and down and really few trading partners
On the road in Wrigley a split was a realistic hope...
… but more than that would have taken a great deal of luck. The split was there to be had, but they blew game 2. It’s as simple as that. Obviously the Cubs outplayed them in games 1 and 4.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 5, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Why am I blocked from FSN.
I live in milw, cant get it on TBS or regular old 31
"How's your mother?"
"She's on her way out."
"We all are. Act accordingly."
lou wants this game
bad, pitching marmol with the bottom of the crew’s lineup you throw mama cass and she’d get 3 outs
great game for billy
0 for 4 with 3 K’s
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
I'm shocked, shocked, to find there is gambling going on in this establishment.
The only people who didn’t see that coming were Hall, Macha and Hall’s immediate family. He had a couple of nice defensive plays, but at the plate he’s just awful.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 5, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
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