Trevor Hoffman got robbed!

by davewillie on Jul 5, 2009 2:23 PM CDT Comment 22 comments

Trevor should have been selected for the N.L. All-Star squad. Francisco Rodriguez is having a good year, but made it due to East Coast favoritism. Trevor was a no-brainer pick and, hopefully, will be added before the Mid-Season Classic is played.

Trevor is having the best start to his long, successful career. The reward of being named to the All-Star Game was an honor he earned. It's too bad the Final Vote does not include pitchers. Trevor would get my vote.

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Yovani

was the bigger snub.

I agree both deserved to make it, but how do you justify Jason Marquis over Yovani Gallardo? Lilly’s not really deserving either, but I guess if they have to select at least one Cub (I hate that rule) he makes the most sense.

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by SunglassesAtNight on Jul 5, 2009 3:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Marquis is leading the league in wins

Yawn, right, but I’m sure that helps.

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by TheJay on Jul 5, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He was also the only Rockie selected, right?

I read that somewhere

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by Lefti on Jul 5, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nevermind, just saw that Hawpe made it

Yeah, that’s ridiculous

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by Lefti on Jul 5, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yovani wouldn't have been able to pitch.

He’s scheduled to start the Sunday before the All Star game.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by KLSnow on Jul 5, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Marquis is pitching the Saturday before

I guess two days rest means an All-Star appearance is like Marquis’ bullpen day, but still.

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by TheJay on Jul 5, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Deserving players get snubbed every year because they feel the need to represent every team.

by Acheron on Jul 5, 2009 4:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I understand the complaints on that rule...

… but after watching how many times Yount and Molitor were ignored despite being among the best players in the game, I just can’t join in on the criticism.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 5, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yount, for instance...

… made the All Star game 3 times, in 1980, 82 and 83. He was not selected as an All Star in 89, the year in which he won his second MVP.

I don’t like it when guys like Ricky Bones make the All Star game either, but if that’s what it takes to keep deserving players from being unfairly ignored because they play in small markets (the Brewers recent excellent voting tallies aside), then I’ll live with it.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 5, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The only problem I have with it

Is there are two more NL teams and potentially two more so-so “All-Stars” than the AL in a game that decides homefield advantage in the World Series.

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by TheJay on Jul 5, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This^

Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 5, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That is kinda bad, but

just look at it from the little kid perspective. You have to have somebody to pull for in the game. MLB sucks at marketing to younger people in general, but why would you watch the game if you’re a Nats fan or something and it’s a year they don’t have anybody deserving?

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Jul 5, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Right

So you can do this one of two ways:

1) You can make the game a little kid event – a nine inning exhibition with one player from every team that can end in a tie if it doesn’t end at nine innings. Everyone plays, everyone has fun, but nothing is on the line, and the game itself would be taken about as seriously as the NBA All Star game.

2) The game can matter. Two teams of the best players from both leagues settle in and battle for league supremacy with something on the line. But if you’re going this way, you need to have the best players there, for integrity purposes.

Unfortunately, baseball wants it both ways.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by KLSnow on Jul 6, 2009 6:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The NBA has an all star game?

by Saberilliterate on Jul 6, 2009 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah.

They hold it at a strip club. Shaq has surprising speed when his destination is the Champagne Room.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 6, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

3) Dial the clock back to 1960

Play two All Star games and sit back secure in the knowledge that fifty years later everyone will talk about how the players cared so much in each game.

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by TheJay on Jul 6, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Especially when only Reds were elected

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 6, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Trevor

Needs the rest. He’s had a couple rough outings recently. I’d rather have him in September…

Fuck tOSU

by ajs1122 on Jul 5, 2009 10:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

He hasn't pitched in eight days right now.

How much rest would you like him to have?

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by KLSnow on Jul 6, 2009 6:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or, at least

It’ll be eight days by gametime tomorrow.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by KLSnow on Jul 6, 2009 6:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Show me the All Star who has worse numbers than Trevor?

When selecting an All-Star, it’s pretty much a lock that ERA and Saves, the two things Trevor is pretty much measured upon, are the two comparable categories. The fact that Trevor did it in two fewer months should not be held against the guys that were selected. Trevor has 18 saves and a 1.93 ERA. Here are the All-Stars:
Heath Bell- 23 Saves, 1.49 ERA
Jon Broxton- 20 Saves, 2.73 ERA, and 6 W
Frankie Cordero- 20 Saves, 1.80 ERA
Ryan Franklin- 20 Saves, .084 ERA
K-rod- 21 Saves, 1.54 ERA

The only argument when comparing guys at his position would be Broxton, who leads all closers in Wins.

Yovanni got it worse

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jul 6, 2009 8:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

Hoffman is fantastic, and if the team was rolling along like they were from the second half of April to the end of May, where Trevor got brought out 3-4 times a week, I’m sure he would have made it. I thought he had a great shot being the all-time saves leader and future HOF’er and all in addition to his great season, but I guess the few recent rough outings kind of killed the hype a bit. If his ERA was still 0.00 it would be inexusable to snub him ;) Still can’t complain about an under-2 ERA for a closer, but it’s borderline All-star worthy

As for Gallardo – definitely better than Lilly, but if you look at the league leaders in ERA (w/ at least 100 innings pitched), he’s behind Haren, Jurrjens, Lincecum, Cain, and Cueto. His walk total is higher than any of them. I do think he deserved to make it, but that’s some real tough competition…

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by JAMOOL on Jul 6, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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