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Castro replaced by Bosio, Hardy to AAA.

Hall DFA'd.

Editor's note: Escobar, Bourgeois also on their way up

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Whoa.

I’m fine with the Castromove, but Hardy? Hopefully this means that Escobar starts at shortstop for a while, otherwise I don’t like that at all.

by NoahJ on Aug 12, 2009 11:06 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm JAMOOL and i approve this message

captainbok: What do you like the most about milwaukee

Jeff Suppan: Captain Bok, that is a great question. Does "Bok" mean Book of Knowledge? My favorite thing about Milwaukee are the Brewers.

by JAMOOL on Aug 12, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Counsell at SS

Counsell doesn’t have the range that Escobar or Hardy have. Yes, he’ll hold his own periodically, but not as a full-time starter.

by sjlee on Aug 12, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a bit surprising

Unless they are trying to raise the value of Escobar during the off season by showcasing his ML talent I don’t see how this helps the club to much. Hardys trade value just went from something to reclamation project.

by SgtClueLs on Aug 12, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm shocked at the Hrdy move

I thought they would’ve let him play out the rest of the season and try to figure things out. This will just do wonders to his trade value.

"my goodness"

by BrewHaHeather on Aug 12, 2009 11:10 AM CDT reply actions  

Mine too.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Aug 12, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

welcome back

nothing much happened while you were gone

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Aug 12, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Not much happened while I was fishing, anyway.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Aug 12, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was just referring to the doctor appt.

but no muskie?

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Aug 12, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope

Just a couple days in the boat listening to baseball games and soaking up sun.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Aug 12, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I could live with that

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Aug 12, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

True enough

But I’m fine with getting less for Hardy if it means giving the team a kick in the ass. I’m just happy the Brewers Mgmt haven’t given up on the season.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 12, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

As much as I am dissapointed by Hardys demotion.

I am super excited for Alcides-Time! When was the last time we had a real 30-50 stolen base threat, Podsednik?

by NoahJ on Aug 12, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hrdy

sara? I believe she’s a physical (rather than cultural) anthropologist that talks about women and gender roles a lot.

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 12, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

They're both saying more to come

McCalvy and TH. I’m interested to see some quotes from Macha or Melvin, or Hardy

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Aug 12, 2009 11:13 AM CDT reply actions  

Holy crap!

I wholly approve of both moves.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 12, 2009 11:13 AM CDT reply actions  

No

I would rather of seen Hardy as a Giant and Cain as a Brewers after his all star year.

by SgtClueLs on Aug 12, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's where the Tardis comes in

The doctor will set things right by making DM make better moves.

by SgtClueLs on Aug 12, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

first daleks behind homeplate, and now managers with a tardis?

i’m suddenly loving this game more than i imagined possible.

"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin

by sowingwildoats on Aug 12, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe

Hardy will find that he hid all his memories on how to hit within a pocket watch, and regain them when he checks the time?

by drezdn on Aug 12, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Perhaps if we stare at the Cardinals and the Cubs they become statues and can’t move.

by SgtClueLs on Aug 12, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wow.

Really surprised at this. Hopefully Hardy can retool himself in the minors – unlike Bill Hall I’m still convinced Hardy can turn it around.

by kingcharlesxii on Aug 12, 2009 11:18 AM CDT reply actions  

He's just jealous

that Hardy still has a job.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 12, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree completely

Sending down hardy now gives him the opportunity to re-tool his swing away from the lights and pressure of helping his (big league) team win. He’ll be back in September and if his AAA performance shows he’s back to career numbers, he’ll probably get some good playing time to either bolster his trade value or help the Brewers compete.

by ecocd on Aug 12, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

As KL pointed out in the Mug

Salome has been hitting .306 since May.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 12, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would like, for the rest of the season

To have McGehee play in RF, Gamel at third, Escobar at SS and Salome at catcher. I think that would be something I would like to watch, even if this season isn’t going anywhere.

Also, with everyone voicing concerns over CF next season if Cameron leaves, what if we move Braun or Hart to CF and play McGehee in RF or LF? Sure, it’s not great defense, but Gamel should be starting at third next season if the Brewers don’t change his position (which I don’t think they should) and McGehee has shown he should at least get the opportunity to start next season.

by NoahJ on Aug 12, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hart in CF? Shudder. Braun in CF? Double Shudder.

They don’t know how the proper route to a ball at their CURRENT positions, much less a more difficult one.

by Mykenk on Aug 12, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think Braun could manage in center field.

Of course, the defense would certainly be subpar, but we have nobody in our system to fit in there and this puts all of our best bats in, at least. The other option, if we want to keep McGehee in the lineup is Weeks in CF and McGehee at 2B. I know there are those here who have wanted Rickie in CF.

by NoahJ on Aug 12, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Psht.

McGehee can play 3rd, Gamel can play 1st.

by Mykenk on Aug 12, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Am I the only one who thinks McGehee is not good at third?

Maybe it’s just his injury, but he’s running like a -40 UZR/150 there right now. And Gamel was really good in his time in the majors.

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Aug 12, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, then McGehee can play 1st.

Or maybe we can, instead of rewarding a guy for a (probably flukey) awesome year, trade him to a team that overvalues him like we did Hall?

by Mykenk on Aug 12, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather keep McGehee

He doesn’t suck and he can be a versatile player.

Why is everyone assuming we need to fill first base?

"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"

RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving

by kirbir on Aug 12, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

totally

if, worst case, he’s a power bench bat and a spot starter / insurance for Gamel and Weeks, I’m fine with that

by warwick5s on Aug 12, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

A year ago, I thought Prince's departure was inevitable

However, now I think we’re going to see a Sabathian offering from Mark A. to stay. (And probably a similar outbidding by the Yankees.)

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 12, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

The nice thing about the present era Yankees

Is that they’re in the middle of a big contract to Texeira, so I see them as unlikely to unload money on a first baseman, unless the DH spot is free full time.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Aug 12, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

A-Rod will be there in a few years

So I don’t think they’ll be spending money on a DH

by warwick5s on Aug 12, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm banking

On the Red Sox doing the outbidding this time.

BCB, the preferred above replacement level sarcasm supplier.

by MadJimiBrewha on Aug 12, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

He can play Catcher

:)

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Aug 12, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

McGehee's bum knee in RF?

count me out.

"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin

by sowingwildoats on Aug 12, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brewers purchased Jason Bourgeois' contract

According to Minor League Splits, he’s played center field all season. They might be trying him out for next season.

by ecocd on Aug 12, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

If we're going to put McGehee in RF...

… then why don’t we just put Prince in CF?

I’d watch that.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 12, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

i bet you he'd shag down balls better than hart has.

"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin

by sowingwildoats on Aug 12, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ohhhhhhh

That would be interesting and in line with today’s moves.

by ecocd on Aug 12, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yesterday

Melvin made it sound like he would like to see Rivera play more during his interview

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Aug 12, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Melvin fired!!!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 12, 2009 11:26 AM CDT reply actions  

(just kidding.)

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 12, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ass

I for one wouldn’t mind it.

by SgtClueLs on Aug 12, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

NOOOOO!!!

Damn you rj, I just dropped him in my Fantasy GM League when I saw your first post…

BCB, the preferred above replacement level sarcasm supplier.

by MadJimiBrewha on Aug 12, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sucker!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 12, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Outstanding

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Aug 12, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

That is the best you've ever been

congrats Jim

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Aug 12, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

please dont' say they've brought up borscht

please god.

"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin

by sowingwildoats on Aug 12, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll rec it

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Aug 12, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

In a corresponding move

The Brewers have purchased Knockwurst’s contract from the Independent Leagues

by drezdn on Aug 12, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

comment of the week winner

been thinking of getting people to pick their favorite comment every week.

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 12, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Castro...FINALLY!!!

It’s not a coincidence that the Brewers are at the bottom of the entire league in ERA and the Texas Rangers are top 15 in era and are still in the hunt for a post season birth. MIKE MADDOX is the reason for the brewers struggles this year! Maddox is a awesome pitching coach and why the brewers didnt offer him the moon to stay on as pitching coach is beyond me? Anyway, Melvin dropped the ball big time in the off season by putting all his eggs in one basket with CC. The brewers were fooling themselves if they thought they had the arms to seriously compete for the division and beyond. I don’t know why JJ is down at AAA This season has been a waste and I’m really disappointed as I thought the Crew turned the corner last year. Peace to all you die hard Crew fans out there!!

by LC19 on Aug 12, 2009 11:32 AM CDT reply actions  

I have the energy...

Are you honestly using the team ERA to compare the effectiveness of Maddux and Castro? That would only make sense if the teams had similar rotations (which they don’t). Not saying that Maddux isn’t a better pitching coach than Castro (he is), just saying that you’re comparing apples to automobiles.

How did Melvin “drop the ball big time by putting all his eggs in one basket with CC”? How has LaPorta been doing since he’s been playing with the Indians? Without CC, the Brewers would not have made the playoffs last season.

Funny enough, the starting rotation from the start of the season had the team in first place.

You really don’t know why JJ is down in Triple-A? Check out his stats.

by sjlee on Aug 12, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey it's Lowly!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 12, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

An upside of Hardys option

We won’t have to listen to that shitty at bat song her has.

by SgtClueLs on Aug 12, 2009 11:33 AM CDT reply actions  

Not a fan of Go Getta, eh?

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Aug 12, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd much rather have Go Getta

Then Smooth Criminal, that got annoying.

by SgtClueLs on Aug 12, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"

RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving

by kirbir on Aug 12, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's been using Go Getta a lot lately

I was at a game in late July and he was using that

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Aug 12, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

it would have been cool if it wasn't purely reactionary to MJ's death

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Aug 12, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

well...

the alien ant farm version rocks.

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 12, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Benny Hill Theme Song

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Aug 12, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Price is Right Theme?

complete with “… come on down!”

"my goodness"

by BrewHaHeather on Aug 12, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Super Mario Bros. theme?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 12, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

The theme from Signs would work too

With all those drastic violin moments

"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"

RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving

by kirbir on Aug 12, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're talking about

the Christmas in the Stars song, right?

"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"

RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving

by kirbir on Aug 12, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

wow

I didn’t need to hear that

"my goodness"

by BrewHaHeather on Aug 12, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Best Christmas album ever

"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"

RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving

by kirbir on Aug 12, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Everyone will have a cookie

I brought extra for the Wookie."

Someone needs to be shot for that.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 12, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hoffman

Last time Hoffman had an AB in MLB… Aug 10, 2001. In fact, he had 4 ABs (in 4 games) that season.

by sjlee on Aug 12, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Reds or Cardinals will

Since the only place he can hit is in Cincy or St. Louis.

by Brew Angel on Aug 12, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah.

So now that he’s been DFA’d, the Reds will give us Harang for him, right?

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 12, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

We can have Harang

If we’re willing to swallow his contract along with Hall’s. That’d be quite a mouthful, even for Mark A.

by Brew Angel on Aug 12, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

Harang is owed $14.5 million, plus the rest of this season. Bill Hall is owed $8.9 million, plus the rest of this season.

So, in a sense, the Brewer can get Harang for the rest of this season and next for only $6 million or so. (Harang’s stats here, and they’re not as bad as you might think.) I’d do that: it’s better than anything else we’d get for Hall. The Reds might do it, because not only have they seen him at his best, but it would save them $6 million paying a guy to play on another team.

In a sense, having Bill E. Hall is an asset, as no other team would be willing to take on Harang’s contract unless that had a bad one of their own. :)

Sooo…what am I missing?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 12, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Bill E is released outright

Then other teams don’t actually have to give us anything for him. They only have to sign him as a Free Agent and pick up the league-minimum portion of his salary. I’m sure the Reds might be willing to take a shot with him for roughly $400K. Harang has reportedly cleared waivers (he hasn’t been released), so he could be traded to anyone willing to pay his full contract for the rest of 2009 and all of 2010. So if the Crew somehow traded for him, they could potentially be paying all of Bill E’s salary + all of Harang’s salary.

by Brew Angel on Aug 12, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

As pointed out below, though

It’s not currently clear whether he’s going to be released outright or exactly what the deal is.

by Brew Angel on Aug 12, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bill Hall?

Adam McC says he was DFA’ed.

I guess I’m confused: unless Harang is traded, the Reds are on the hook for all of Harang’s salary minus the league minimum if he signs elsewhere. Unless Hall is traded, we’re on the hook for all of Hall’s salary minus the league minimum if he signs elsewhere. Both Harang and Hall can be traded.

I think you’re trying to tell me something is wrong with my logic, but I’m not sure what that is.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 12, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Harang wasn't designated for assignment though, right?

So the Reds will either trade him or keep him, they don’t have to release him. The Brewers will have to trade or release Hall in 10 days.

Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.

by TheJay on Aug 12, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ohhh, maybe that's the difference

ok, that makes sense.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 12, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's the key

Harang cleared waivers; he wasn’t DFA-ed. The Reds can trade Harang in a salary dump, or keep him if they want to. We have to do something with Bill E – either trade (though who’d want him for his current salary?) or release him.

by Brew Angel on Aug 12, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or attempt to outright him to the minors...

It’s too late here for me to remember which exception applies, but Hall could presumably reject that assignment to become a FA and still keep his contracted earnings in place.

Another puss who hides behind crap.

by Zeyes on Aug 12, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Designated for assignment

I don’t think Hall has actually be released yet (conflicting reports).

From what I’ve read, he’s been DFAed, which means that within 10 days, the Brewers either have to put him on waivers, trade him or release him.

by sjlee on Aug 12, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's sad

In the midst of our freefall, it’s the players on offense we’re reshuffling. Although Hardy’s having a bad bad season, he didn’t give up 22 hits last night.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 12, 2009 11:53 AM CDT reply actions  

they didn't score 14 to win the game

hence the shakeup!

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Aug 12, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Only one person can halp us now

Brooks Kieschnick, you’re our only hope!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 12, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

The Brewers don’t have starters in their farm system that could really help. The best ones are Burns and Dillard, and we all seen how they’ve done.

I don’t think they’re willing to offer much in terms of trade at this point.

by sjlee on Aug 12, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm honestly shocked that they sent Hardy down.

I can’t se how this makes the team better. Even if we do get better production out of Escobar, I can’t see this helping his trade value.

Besides. The pitching is what’s wrong with this team, not it’s hitting.

by levnclf on Aug 12, 2009 11:59 AM CDT reply actions  

Depends...

on what you think they are trying to accomplish by this move. Yes, it’s really not going to make an impact on the current season… but it will give them a chance to see if Escobar is ready to be the full-time starter next season.

by sjlee on Aug 12, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Clearly the season is slipping away.

This could be one more swing for the fences, by shaking things up, but there could be another possibility. Everything they are doing is getting ready for 2010.

At some point you have to say about Hardy, he is what his numbers say he is, and frankly, not only is Escobar a better prospect, he is probably a better player….right now. Yeah, it hurts Hardy’s trade value, but despite all the projections and prognosticators, its also possible that he does not turn it around. At least decent numbers in AAA will look better than bad numbers in MLB (Think Clay Buccholz)

Castro didn’t have a lot to work with, but he didn’t really take anyone from bad to average either.

Hall is just a guy at this point. Hopefully things work out for him, Not so sure why they don’t just finish it off and bring up Salome and Gamel.

by grant76 on Aug 12, 2009 12:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed

We have little to no chance of making the playoffs this year. Why not start to focus on preparing for next year right now?

"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"

RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving

by kirbir on Aug 12, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

how coincidental, then

that Hall and Kendall getting less playing time would actually improve our chances :)

by warwick5s on Aug 12, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

And expensive.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 12, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aslo

Might want to see if Cameron can be traded.

by grant76 on Aug 12, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

for what?

Unless a CF goes down, there’s no real reason for anyone to want Cameron.

He’s FA next year, and he won’t qualify for post season play.

by SgtClueLs on Aug 12, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah he would

After September 1 he wouldn’t.

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Aug 12, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unless I'm mistaken

Anyone acquired before Sept. 1 can be added to a postseason roster, and even players acquired after that can be added to replace an injured player.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Aug 12, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ohh I'm an idiot

I didn’t put any coffee on this morning. And apparently it’s catching up to me.

by SgtClueLs on Aug 12, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

and just yesterday

Someone thought I was crazy for thinking that the Red Sox would be better off picking up Counsell than Hardy. (Not like I want either of them on the Sox—Jed Lowrie will be fixed eventually)

by morineko on Aug 12, 2009 12:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Can I post my Ode to Bill Hall pictorial?

Three images, some fun, only one borderline word? :)

Looking to buy: General Manager Deputy Badge

by Bush League All Star on Aug 12, 2009 12:16 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm all for it

Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Aug 12, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just need an okay from the mods!

I know some folks on other forums are particular about images soaking up the sites. And the questionable word is buttsecks…which is far from being bad.

Looking to buy: General Manager Deputy Badge

by Bush League All Star on Aug 12, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm.

I’d encourage you to post it as a FanPost. If it’s not offensive, I may promote it to the front page eventually or link it from the Mug.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Aug 12, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

<3

Okay will fan post it thanks KL!

Looking to buy: General Manager Deputy Badge

by Bush League All Star on Aug 12, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hall's salary

It looks like we’ll owe Bill Hall a little more than $9 million to not play for us, minus (I suppose) the league minimum if someone signs him.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 12, 2009 12:34 PM CDT reply actions  

"We" -?

You mean the price of beer is going up, again?!

"At times I'm emotional," --Ryan Braun, 7/7/09

by heybatterbatter on Aug 12, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually...

It’s more like $11M.

From the AP:

“He is owed $2,006,557 from the remainder of his $6.8 million salary this year, $8.4 million next season and a $500,000 buyout of a $9.25 million club option for 2011.”

by sjlee on Aug 12, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh right

I meant after this season. Thanks for correcting.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 12, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just got this email from TheJay:
These are almost certainly panic moves straight from the top.
 
Bourgeois was called up to replace Hall. Given they just signed Corey Patterson’s veteranosity and he is tearing the cover off the ball in Nashville, that’s nice to see.
 
Someone should really check on the health of Don Money. He’s lost his pitching coach and two regular players off a roster that was already short-handed. They could have a pretty weird lineup tonight. Not including Hardy, he currently has 10 position players, three of whom are catchers. I wonder if any of the Nashville pitchers are converted position players? :)

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Aug 12, 2009 12:40 PM CDT reply actions  

I would guess so

Attanasio and Melvin probably had a heart-to-heart about what the team needs to do in order to be a contender for next year.

"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"

RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving

by kirbir on Aug 12, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unless Attanasio's trying to recreate the Yosting of Yost last September.

I said it then, I’ll say it again: our owner seems to have a bit of Steinbrenner in him.

by Rubie Q on Aug 12, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think you're right

I’m pretty sure Mark A is why we paid 10 million to Gagne

by drezdn on Aug 12, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome note about AAA

He should put all three catchers in the outfield for kicks and make Hall catch.

I must be reading Minor League splits wrong. If you put in Jason Bourgeois it looks like he’s played every game in the outfield and primarily in center field. I fail to see how that’s a “replacement” for Bill Hall.

by ecocd on Aug 12, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well right now he's been playing a lot in RF for Hart

So having another player who can play in the OF well is going to be needed for the next few weeks while Hart is out.

"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"

RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving

by kirbir on Aug 12, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bourgeois has played in the outfield this year

But IIRC, he’s been primarily an infielder for most of his career.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Aug 12, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

A Note of Patterson

I saw he was tearing it up at AAA this morning and checked out his splits. It looks like he has been basically platooning with all but 1 of his at bats coming against righties.

BCB, the preferred above replacement level sarcasm supplier.

by MadJimiBrewha on Aug 12, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

How does this hurt the Brewers chances? I don't get it.

All Melvin did was send down two underperforming players that didn’t have a right to be on the roster given their recent performance and their potential replacements. This is a move to make the Brewers more competitive this season and next season. The Brewers have a better team on paper now than they did last night. This is 100% good.

by ecocd on Aug 12, 2009 12:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Glad they waited for the home stand to start.

The interest should bring several more thousand to the games, esp. if Escobar gets off to a good start. Cash to pay off Hall.

A mid-season fix is always fun, for a while anyway.

Melvin may look like a hero in all of this a month from now, but I agree it all came from “the limited partnership” at the top.

"At times I'm emotional," --Ryan Braun, 7/7/09

by heybatterbatter on Aug 12, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can he pitch?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 12, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

He has been better lately

captainbok: What do you like the most about milwaukee

Jeff Suppan: Captain Bok, that is a great question. Does "Bok" mean Book of Knowledge? My favorite thing about Milwaukee are the Brewers.

by JAMOOL on Aug 12, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Melvin's quotes:

“We’re still focused on winning games,” said Melvin. "We’re two games below .500 and 6 1/2 games back (in the NL Central). We’re not gving up.

“If there’s anybody in the clubhouse that’s giving up, they shouldn’t be here.”

“Last night’s game was a stinker,” said Melvin. “That put me over the edge, I guess.” (edit: That’s totally reasonable, right?)

“All of these moves are performace bases. I look at myself and maybe I waited too long on some of these. I’m maybe more patient than most people. I try to ride these things out. When you don’t see progress, you’ve got to make moves.

“This isn’t to send a message to anybody else (on the team). This is all performance based.”

“I talked to J.J.,” said Melvin. “I told him he needs to go to Triple-A, relax and have some fun. Mentally, take a breather. That’s what Triple-A is for. Maybe he can find something mechanical with his swing.”

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/53052757.html

Not a precursor to a trade, though.

Interesting comments on Macahahaha

by Mykenk on Aug 12, 2009 1:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Sounds like Hardy just needed / wanted a break, but didn't ask for it

“It’s a prolonged slump that’s lasted four months for me, and I haven’t been able to slow it down,” Hardy said. “In the past, when I would have a few bad games in a row, I would get a day off to slow the game down and come back strong. It just hasn’t happened this year. A couple of days off will be nice, and then I’ll go down [to the Minors] and do what I need to do.”

by warwick5s on Aug 12, 2009 1:35 PM CDT reply actions  

“I don’t know — I’ve kind of been feeling it,” Hardy said. “I’ve been feeling like all of the coaches have been staring at me and watching everything I do. It’s been uncomfortable. But it still surprises me a little bit. I think three days off would have been all I needed, and I’ve been going out there every single day and doing what they’ve asked me to do.”

Hardy conceded that he never approached manager Ken Macha and asked for a break.

“Who am I to tell Macha what the lineup should be and who should be playing?” Hardy said. "They’ve been putting me out there every day and I’ve been trying my hardest. It’s not like I haven’t been trying. I like to think of it as the equivalent of a golfer who is a five- or six handicap and they’re going out there for four straight months shooting in the 100s and they can’t figure it out.

by warwick5s on Aug 12, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hardy's acclimated to the midwest

Keep your head down, your mouth shut and do your job.

I guess that’s just a case of a manager not knowing his players well. One thing about Yost was that he always rested his players regardless of how much they wanted to play (of course, he wouldn’t bench players that wanted to play regardless of their ability).

by ecocd on Aug 12, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jason Kendall might not agree with this line:
One thing about Yost was that he always rested his players regardless of how much they wanted to play

Of course, it’s entirely true for Mike Rivera. No matter how bad he wanted to play, Yost sat him for months.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Aug 12, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, so one exception

But I remember Fielder being frustrated about being stuck on the bench a few games last year when Yost insisted he take a day off. Macha doesn’t appear to be a member of that camp.

by ecocd on Aug 12, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not knowing the players well...

Agreed, but then again, this is Macha’s first season with the Brewers. Of course, if you’re going to blame Macha, why not the rest of the coaching staff… including Sveum who IS familiar with all the players.

by sjlee on Aug 12, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bosio's first words of advice

To Looper: “Stop giving up so many home runs”

by drezdn on Aug 12, 2009 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

That's why he's a winner.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 12, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know, when you put it that way...

First words of advice to Gallardo: “You know how we brought in Jeff Suppan to be a veteran presence, and to mentor young pitchers? Don’t listen to him! Don’t even stand next to him.”

by Yar Nivek on Aug 12, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't get why everybody's so worked up about this stuff

The big news of the day is that Cleveland claimed Swindle.

Also, cheese.

by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 12, 2009 3:22 PM CDT reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Swindle! Your 55 mph curveball will never grace our diamond again!

Well, except perhaps against us. He’s now Evil Swindle.

by ecocd on Aug 12, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Two teams since his release...

He went from the Brewers to the Rays and now to the Indians. I don’t even think he had a chance to put on his jersey with the Rays minor league affiliate before being waived.

by sjlee on Aug 12, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

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