The J.J. Hardy Overreaction
by Jordan M on Aug 12, 2009 11:24 AM CDT
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The Brewers optioned J.J. Hardy to Nashville. We don't really know all of the details about this yet, so maybe it's a two-week Rickie Weeks type situation to try to get him on track, but it's pretty rash and definitely an overreaction.
Everything I said back here about Hardy still applies. He's having a down year but not nearly as down as his baseball card numbers suggest, because he has gotten terribly unlucky on balls in play. The league on average drops about 30% of balls in play for a hit, and Hardy was only getting about 25% to fall. Part of the blame goes to him for not hitting the ball as hard as he has in the past, but that's just unsustainable for a hitter. Had they kept him in the majors I would have fully expected him to hit something like his .261/.325/.438 ZiPS rest-of-season projection.
Let's not lose sight of the fact that Hardy is a really valuable player even when he's hitting terribly. He's been worth about 8 runs above an average shortstop this year and his ability to play short gives his value another boost. He's been roughly average this year overall, and that's about 2 wins above a replacement player over the course of the year-- something teams are willing to pay $8 million dollars for. Hardy is not a bad player. In 2007 and 2008 he was easily an all-star caliber player worth between 4 and 5 wins to the Brewers, and even in a down year like this he's far from worthless.
I have no problem with "shaking things up", but I'm a bit concerned about how this will affect Hardy's trade value. I'd like to think teams are able to evaluate a player like Hardy without reading too much into his poor offensive numbers this year, but if sending him to AAA significantly lowers the return the Brewers get for Hardy, then it's a bad decision.
Finally, as much as I like Escobar, there's one problem-- he probably won't be an upgrade over Hardy for the rest of this season. Escobar has a lot more value to the Brewers than Hardy does because of his upside and cost, but for the rest of this year their production is a wash at best and probably favors Hardy. Escobar's MLE is just about the same as Hardy's line in the majors this season, and though I'd bet Escobar would outperform that, I think Hardy would easily beat his line to date as well. Escobar is considered an excellent defender but Hardy is probably in the top 5 in the majors at short and easily is in the top 10.
Doug Melvin felt the need to shake things up and that's fine, but I'm not so sure this is an upgrade for the rest of the year and now they're burning Escobar's service time while using up the limited time they control Hardy while sticking him in the minors. Not a shrewd use of valuable assets. I'm not fully against sending him down, but I don't really think it's a great idea, either.
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I’m somewhat surprised they didn’t just bench Hardy and play Counsell at SS indefinitely. I know he’s got a balky knee, but if the point was to shake up the team I think the indefinite benching of Hardy, canning Castro and the (apparent) DFA of Hall was probably enough. And it probably would have had less effect on Hardy’s trade value while preserving two months of service time for Escobar.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 12, 2009 11:33 AM CDT reply actions
I guess the service time for Escobar isn't a big deal if you think he's going to be in the majors to start next year
Then he’s got 6 years regardless.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
/Agree
Sort of bandaid-on-gunshot status here. Also, if the Mustache is really looking at Escobar as ‘the future’ doesn’t it make more sense to get Hardy every day ABs to try and increase his trade value? While it was never higher than last off-season, it can’t be a whole lot lower now. Unless you, say, send him to AAA…
I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."
~Jeff Sackmann
by Charlie Marlow on Aug 12, 2009 11:33 AM CDT reply actions
shut up shut up shut up
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The link in the second paragraph doesn't work.
But I agree with you on pretty much everything. The main thing I am concerned about is how it hurts his trade value. I am very excited for Escobar though.
Paging TheJay
Hardy has been in the majors since opening day 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, and would’ve been on schedule to hit exactly 6 years service at the end of 2010. Could this assignment delay his service time by a few days and keep him under control through 2011?
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
And the result of this would be that Hardy has more trade value, and Hardy is really pissed off.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
If there’s no trade, then this could have huge implications for J.J. Hardy.
This is the first time he’s ever been optioned. He was added to the 40-man roster just before the 2005 season.
So he will not have the necessary big league service time (six years) in order to become a free agent after the 2010 season.
Amazingly, he may have to wait until after 2011 now before becoming a free agent.
Per Mass Hass on BF.net
FTJ at brewerfan brought this line to the thread
If a player is sent to the minor leagues on optional assignment for a total of 20 days or less during a season, he receives service time for the entire season.
So I don’t think that would work if this is the case.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
That does run up against the end of the minor league season, though.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
what about playoffs?
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Intriguing question, yeah.
On the one hand, you could say, “well, if they don’t re-add Hardy to the 25-man roster he can’t receive service time by definition”, so they just shouldn’t make him a September call-up until September 3rd or so, but on the other hand, I have no idea if the definition of “optional assignment” requires that the minor league team still be active at the time (and here I would assume that playoffs don’t count). It could indeed be that it’s impossible for anybody to be optioned for a full 20 days at this point in the season even if he might be off the 25-man roster for 20+ days.
Okay, time to relax I guess (though the issue is still interesting in itself)...
Nashville’s still active through September 7th. Presumably the minors started up a week later this year just like the majors.
Generally the seasons end Labor Day weekend
which, of course, can vary by several days. Get the small town crowds to come out for one more holiday fireworks show.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 12, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
After reading the JS article..
And Melvin said it wasn’t to cut off free agency after the 2010 season, either. He said a player has to be down “18 to 20 days” for the service time to be deleted from his record.
Melvin sounds like he won’t keep him down for more then that amount of time. I doubt he needs anymore time then that, or if he does being in the minors won’t do much good..
Also…This may sound kind of harsh, but if we keep him down extending his free agency to the end of 2011, how is that a bad thing?
"Cubs suck. I own them" -Doug Davis
because the union will give the team a spanking
can’t imagine that kind of shenanigans going over well
What if Escobar comes up and hits .275 the rest of the year.
I mean, I know it’s kind of a dick move but he really isn’t playing well.
"Cubs suck. I own them" -Doug Davis
Nashville's still fighting for a playoff spot. (Currently half a game behind the Redbirds.)
Doesn’t change the dickishness much, but they could leave him down with the Sounds for the rest of the season…
Another puss who hides behind crap.
On the scale of things DM cares about
A rough estimate:
1. Winning games in 2009.
1A. Winning games next season.
2. Keeping attendance up.
…
37. What Uecker had for lunch.
38. Nashville’s playoff run.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
I think his point was more like this:
The nashville playoffs would extend several players’ stays in the minors by a couple days. Hardy would be put over the 20 day mark if he stayed for the playoffs.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Even if he "only" stayed for the full duration of the regular season. (Until Sep 7, as mentioned above.)
The Sounds are likely to be in a playoff race until the very end…besides the Redbirds half a game ahead, the I-Cubs are only three behind. Hardy may be an exception, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see the September callups from Nashville delayed at least until they’ve secured or missed the playoffs.
Another puss who hides behind crap.
Or in other words:
While Melvin may indeed not care too much about Nashville’s playoff run as such (although he’s shown at least some consideration of these things in past years, unlike what KLSnow seems to be insinuating…), I don’t exactly consider it inconceivable that they’ll not rush guys like Narveson back to the parent club on September 1st if they’re just going to sit their butts on the far end of the bench for that first September week anyway.
Another puss who hides behind crap.
And just to finish the posting trifecta:
My point about Hardy specifically was that Nashville’s playoff run gives Melvin a good excuse for keeping Hardy down on the farm past the 20 days mark IF Escobar is playing okay AND he’s okay with the likely union backlash for costing Hardy a free agency year. That doesn’t exactly clash with that dandy list of Melvin priorities, but what do I know.
Another puss who hides behind crap.
I don't think you can call it a GOOD excuse
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
he still could come up a couple days later
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Not true
20 days would be Sept. 1.
Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.
And a guy at Brewerfan is saying he thinks Hardy was traded and was just sent to AAA
so Escobar could come up and play before it’s finalized. I have no idea on his credibility, but he did say he knew he was risking his credibility on the site.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
That would make me feel better
Although I like that Mark and Doug are showing some passion (more than the actual team, it seems to me), Hardy’s demotion seemed like overreacting to me too. The same with Hall: why not send him back to AAA to work on his swing some more?
Having said all that…Hardy’s numbers have gotten worse since the All-Star break, across the board. A .611 OPS is Kendall-esque.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Ah, shoulda scrolled through the whole thread.
Didn’t think this specific issue would make another appearance further down. :)
I just don't see the reason behind these moves.
You DFA Hall two weeks after he agrees to go to the minors to work on his swing?
You option your starting shortstop to AAA and call up your prized prospect even though we’ve got a sliver of a chance at the Wild Card?
Color me baffled. This doesn’t make us better in the short run, and it doesn’t help that much in the long run. And if this is intended to light a fire under asses, why are the hitters the ones who need prodding? Isn’t the problem the pitching? Why didn’t we cut Looper, then?
We already are using two spot starters a week. If you cut Looper, that makes it three.
With limited resources to fill in starting pitching spots, you can’t really give up what you do have even if it is Looper.
Right.
I don’t think we should actually cut Looper — I was just sayin’: If pitching’s been the problem, why are we cutting our hitters?
Because we can't replace our pitchers
We have no one to replace them with.
Maybe the thinking is, if we’re going to make the playoffs, we’ll need to average 8 runs per game.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Yes -- I understand there aren't any arms in the cupboard.
I just don’t see any logic in these moves. We’re cutting off our nose to spite our face.
Well, if the Brewers did have the option to
I’m sure they probably would change things with their starting rotation. They just can’t, so they are doing the next best thing.
i am so ready to just suck on lemons instead of trying to figure out what the hell they're doing for this season
or 2010 now.
"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin
by sowingwildoats on Aug 12, 2009 12:14 PM CDT reply actions
It's all about 2010
They need to figure out if Escobar and Bourgeois can hit at the ML level. They both have the glove to make the opening day roster, but they have from now until the end of the season to show the organization has an internal option for CF and doesn’t need to keep Hardy around for SS insurance. It makes the re-signing of Cameron moot if Jason can play CF, and Hardy can be moved for pitching if Escobar shows any bat at all.
by Getting Yosted on Aug 12, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Not an Overreaction - WAY OVERDUE!!!
The only problem I have with this move is that it is so far overdue, it will have no effect on this season. This should have been done months ago. This season has been shot for a while now, but hopefully this will help Escobar get ready for next season.
I just wish Melvin would not let players, like Hall and Hardy and others, “wallow” in slumps for over half a season and then finally decide to have “accountability” when the season is already shot.
Exactly.
This is a positively Steinbrenner-ian reaction: we’ve gotta shake things up, but we can’t address the real problem, so we’ll just start firing people. I don’t get it.
You're fired.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Aug 12, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I will agree to be fired on one condition:
I get periodically re-instated ala Billy Martin, and then fired again (for no reason) shortly thereafter.
Bing. Bang. Boom.
You’re fired, Ed.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
i don't think is completely right
The pitching has been worse than expected, but if Hardy/Hall/Hart had played to (what some thought was) their potential, there would undoubtedly be a couple/few more wins on the table, which would make a huge difference in the division race at this point.
There is much that has gone wrong with the season. The horrendous performance by the starting pitching is only the most obvious thing.
by Big Dog Hoya on Aug 12, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
You're right, of course.
Ryan Braun went 0-for-4 last night. When is management going to wake up and realize he’s never going to amount to anything?
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
by Kyle Lobner on Aug 12, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Question
What do you think the Brewers would expect to get in return if they did trade Hardy? Just asking for some arm-chair GMing that we all like to do.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
We definitely need some pitching
Whether they’re ready for the majors now or prospects we can use in 1-3 years. That’s what they should be going after.
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
Any offensive needs?
cause, like, the Reds don’t really have any pitching prospects… :)
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
I think we need the pitching more than anything
But we might need a CF is Cameron doesn’t re-sign for next season. And, depending on how third base gets filled, we might potentially need another position player, mainly to sit on the bench and look good. I’d like to see Catalanotto go, just because he annoys me.
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
uh, best actually
Hardy’s was the worst. Actually, that might have been why he was sent down.
Someday I'm going to try to explain to everyone that Jody Gerut is actually pretty good.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
If he's a good off-the-bench player, I'm fine with it
Also, Counsell might not want to stick around another year, so that would affect anything the Brewers would be looking for. I hope he doesn’t decide to retire or leave Milwaukee (I doubt he would anyway), but we will see.
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
would Drew Stubbs, Chris Heisey, or Yonder Alonso look attractive to the Brewers?
How about Willy Taveras?
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Stubbs would be an interesting piece, though we do have Lorenzo Cain in a similar situation
Don’t even say Taveras as a joke.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
Believe me
I wish that I didn’t ever have to say Taveras as an anything again.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
well that makes me feel like it's too much
:)
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Would you take a .296/.351/.494 line out of an above-average defensive centerfielder?
Becuase he did that last year in 356 plate appearances.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
Not a platoon
He didn’t play much in April or September, I think he might have been hurt.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
i'd sooner see Cat stay
and Gerut get dumped
"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin
by sowingwildoats on Aug 12, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I have no idea any more
But I really do wonder if they did trade him already, or are working out a trade. With the whole waiver rules, it would make sense to get Hardy off the major league roster while the details are worked out because he wouldn’t play tonight anyway.
I would guess it would be either a Harang-type pitcher— good but limited control and an only decent contract— or two decent pitching prospects. Something like what the Mariners gave up for Jack Wilson and Ian Snell, and Hardy probably has a similar amount of value to those two combined.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
By control up there about Harang I mean team control, not pitching control
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
are the Brewers in the position to take on money?
Because I’d consider Harang for Hardy if I’m the Reds, as long as the contracts are close to fully swapped.
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Not much
I think if that trade were to go down the Brewers would have to get a little money.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
would they have to split the difference?
which I would figure to be around $4 million.
Harang is guaranteed $15M ($12.5 for 2010 + a $2.5M buyout of 2011 if traded; his option is worth $14M if he gets dealt). Hardy will probably make around $7M next year, right? Would $4M be a reasonable balance of money?
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Yeah I would say something like that
Although you’re probably high on Hardy. He made $5 mil this year and I doubt an arbitrator would give him much more after the season he’s had because they don’t really look at defense at all.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
How about this?
You take Bill Hall’s salary too and we call it even.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
can we put one of our pitchers on the mound every time he bats?
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
Based of what we know of Melvin
I would second you trade wondering. It would seem extremely out of place for Melvin to make this sort of move.
BCB, the preferred above replacement level sarcasm supplier.
by MadJimiBrewha on Aug 12, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
but he did just say that waivers haven't even been asked on Hardy, yet.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
True, he has straight up lied before
However, this was a situation where he said he can’t talk about waivers, and then went on to mention that he hasn’t asked for waivers on Hardy. I’m going to believe that there’s no trade in the works.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
They would have had to ask option waivers on him
Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.
Prosect return
Hardy is worth a Pitching prospect in the bottom half of the BA top 100, or a hitting prospect in the bottom quarter of that list.
Michael Bowden from the Red Sox makes a lot of sense, or Daniel Bard, if they could get him.
He's French
Imagine the Brewers offense without Bill Hall. Wait. What?
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Aug 12, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh dear god
Imagine the Brewers offense without Bill Hall. Wait. What?
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Aug 12, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
He needs to watch out for Proletariat?
"It seems like we're not hitting because we're not getting hits." - Dusty being Dusty
by Slyde on Aug 12, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Rec'd for awesomeness
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
Him in the majors makes me wish Harry Caray was still alive. I’d pay good money to listen to him try to pronounce that name for nine innings.
by Getting Yosted on Aug 12, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder how Uecker will handle it
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
He was born in Texas and drafted by the Rangers in 2000
Wikipedia is a beautiful thing
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
I second that notion
Already updated to reflect his call up and complete with this wonderful detail: “He is the last player to get his first major league hit at the original Yankee Stadium.”
If they're really going to shake things up they should just call up Gamel and play him everyday and make Gerut the everyday right fielder
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
by Jordan M on Aug 12, 2009 12:55 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
For the record
It’d be nice if among all this juggling, Adam Heether got the call to play third. He’s above average defensively, and he knows how to get on base.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
I'd prefer him to Jason B
but if we’re calling up someone to play third, I don’t know why it wouldn’t be Gamel.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
Me neither
though Gamel hasn’t been hitting well since going back to Nashville.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
This place
is nothing but a bed of Heethens some days.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
This isn't the end of the world
Barring the talk above about Hardy already being traded, I don’t think this is terrible for Hardy or the Brewers. It’s safe to say he’ll be getting a September call-up, so he’ll be down 2.5 weeks, tops.
I don’t see how sending him to AAA for 2 weeks is going to affect his trade value. GMs aren’t stupid. They know what he’s worth regardless of some mid-August roster move. And if it really does affect his value, then that means he’ll make less come arbitration time which increases his trade value.
Interesting
http://brewersbeat.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/08/burned-out_hardy_felt_demotion.html
Remember how Ned would always put Counsell in at short every 4 or 5 days to give Hardy a break? It has seemed like Macha hasn’t done that at all. Maybe someone forgot to tell him about the shoulder.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
by Jordan M on Aug 12, 2009 1:32 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Shoulder?
I thought he had a balky back.
Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.
Value
I don’t think anything but his numbers will attribute to his trade value. AAA or Majors….If Escobar does well then they know they can trade JJ. If Escobar fails then they try to keep him… Simple. 7 games back with the worst pitching staff in the NL. I think they can afford to experiment at this point.
Jordan M
Be a man. I agree but dont agree with the JJ hardy send down is you are another puss who hides behind crap. Stand up and be a man. True people speak their mind but dont put their feet in both answers. Thats only used for chickens who can cut it. JJ Hardy is having a bad season and needs his butt kicked. Our manager cant do it so our GM had the balls to do it.
You almost want to but I doubt he'd get he was being made fun of.
"Cubs suck. I own them" -Doug Davis
Seems like we have a lot of new members today
Did BCB get linked on Haudricourt’s blog or something?
I thought Witrado's handle would be L A not S F
"Today is."
by juggernaut400 on Aug 12, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
I agree but dont agree with the JJ hardy send down is you are another puss who hides behind crap
sig worthy?
"Today is."
by juggernaut400 on Aug 12, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm usually not into sigs...
and it probably won’t last, but for now I couldn’t help it.
Another puss who hides behind crap.
seconded
we definitely need something between Flag and Rec, like a “That certainly was a post” indicator.
by warwick5s on Aug 12, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It may be too long for a button, but:
Mr. Madison, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by Getting Yosted on Aug 12, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
That, of course
is from the introduction to the apocryphal Federalist Paper #86.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 12, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, I think it's from one of Thomas Jefferson's rebuttals of the Federalists.
Unfortunately, all copies were destroyed when the Jefferson airplane crashed.
Another puss who hides behind crap.
by Zeyes on Aug 12, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Which, if I remember correctly, addressed
what the city was built on.
by Getting Yosted on Aug 12, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Mini-poll time
Is Jordan M…
a) A chicken with his feet in both answers
b) A puss hiding behind crap
c) A man who is standing up
d) A man who is not standing up
e) Getting ready to kick JJ Hardy’s butt
f) Something else entirely
Oh, the options….
"I hope your name is Rick"
This is absolutely confounding.
Who creates an account to say that? Bizarre.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
Seems like a guy who would take a picture of himself in the mirror for his facebook page
only to leave the flash on and not really be all that visible.
"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"
RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving
I have a couple ideas
They’re both equally likely, so I don’t want to come down hard behind either one. I think she/he’d understand.
Obscure baseball records and more at my blog, Recondite Baseball.
you can’t blame all of a .667 OPS (75 OPS+, substantially below average) on bad luck. I mean, the guy is barely leading Counsell in XBH this year. Rickie Weeks was never as bad as JJ has been this year, and Rickie was pilloried by just about everyone before this season. I’m just not sure how this can hurt. It may not help, but it can’t hurt.
Weeks comparison
As bad as Hardy is hitting right now, he’s still an above-average SS. Weeks, on the other hand, struggled both defensively and offensively.
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