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Pirates 9, Brewers 5

W: Kevin Hart (4-2)
L: Carlos Villanueva (2-10)

HR: Prince Fielder (31), Mike Cameron (17), Andy LaRoche (6), Garrett Jones (13), Ronny Cedeno (8)

MVP: Felipe Lopez (+.168)
LVP: Carlos Villanueva (-.349)

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Well, apparently the Brewers don't dominate the Pirates anymore.

This one was over early, as the Pirates scored one in the second and five more in the third off of Carlos Villanueva to take a 6-1 lead that the Bucs never relinquished.

Carlos Villanueva rebounded from the third inning and made it through four, but still left four innings of work for a Brewer bullpen that was already overworked. Villanueva allowed six runs on eleven hits and a walk in four innings, picking up his tenth loss. He threw just 73 pitches in the effort.

The Brewer bats had some moments tonight, including Fielder's 31st home run. Felipe Lopez scored the first run of the game after tripling in the first, and went 1-for-2 with that triple and two walks. Five Brewers were on base multiple times in the game, but that wasn't enough to overcome a Pirate attack that included 16 hits.

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Beam me up, Sucky

Phasers set to stun, fired on the fanbase each time the pitching collapses

by pharom on Aug 17, 2009 9:16 PM CDT reply actions  

We canno' hold 'er any longer Cap'n

The season, she’s fallin’ apart!

CounsellWSMVP10!

by kirbir on Aug 17, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damnit Jim

I’m a doctor, not a baseball statistician!

CounsellWSMVP10!

by kirbir on Aug 17, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

He isn't very good...

Villanueva had his last win back on May 25th.

Since July 1st, the Brewers have only won 2 games that Villanueva pitched in (13 games).

by sjlee on Aug 17, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

By the Wooclear Wessels

by SgtClueLs on Aug 18, 2009 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

16 hits!

22 given up to the Padres!

Man, I thought our pitching would be mostly average-ish. I didn’t see this coming.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 17, 2009 9:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Kendall FTW!

2-3 with a walk. Surprised that didn’t make it into the game summary, to be honest. Based on the large sample size of 1, I wonder if Kendall needed more than 1 game of rest.

Has Villa had his head screwed on right at all this year? It would’ve been hard to predict his poor performance at the beginning of the season. Guess Bosio didn’t have any magical pitching dust to get Villa tonight.

by ecocd on Aug 17, 2009 9:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Does this sound like a fair trade?

I need pitching help bad.. His team only has 35 innings remaining on the season…

My offer… Braun… For Greinke & Cliff Lee.

First place team has 99 points.. I’m in 3rd place with 79.5.. Trading partner is in 4th place with 67 points.

Thanks much for any thoughts.

by Flag Up on Aug 17, 2009 9:32 PM CDT reply actions  

at this point

it’s really too bad this wasn’t a real life trade.

by morineko on Aug 17, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

How far behind whip k and era?

by SgtClueLs on Aug 17, 2009 9:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Whip.. I have 8 out if 10 points and a whip of 1.23.. Ist place team in the league has a 1.21 whip and all 10 points.. Era.. Mine is 3.75. 6 points. 1st place teams era is 3.26. 2nd place 3.59.. What I really need is K’s, W’S & Quality starts.

by Flag Up on Aug 17, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's certainly not veto-able

though it’s hard to say if it’s a good trade without more specifics.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 17, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

My offense in the 6 Cats

Is 8 or better except doubles… I only have 2 points lol. I don’t really see me gaining or losing much in offensive cats with the loss of Braun..

by Flag Up on Aug 17, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

i have a question for the pitch fx minded posters of this board.

are the problems we’re seeing with carlos villaneuva’s pitching as of late (and including spring training stuff where he was giving away monster homeruns it seemed) more of the same, or is this completely out of the norm from his peripherals and expected performance?

"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin

by sowingwildoats on Aug 17, 2009 9:35 PM CDT reply actions  

We knew the pitchers were overperforming at the start of the year

And we knew they would correct. But now they’re underperforming.

Is it dumb for me to continue waiting day in and day out for them to correct back again?

by Cervercero on Aug 17, 2009 9:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Nah

It just means you’re a fan :)

CounsellWSMVP10!

by kirbir on Aug 17, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least we're not the blue Jays...

in the past 3 weeks they:

- failed to trade Roy Haladay at his peak value
- have gone 5-9
- did not sign their supplemental 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round picks.

Just how does Richardi still have a job? seriously, someone tell me.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Aug 18, 2009 12:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Or the Cubs...

… who are losing ground on the Cards nearly as fast as we have been the last two weeks with an aging roster. I’d rather have to pay Suppan and Hall a total of 22 million in 2010 than Soriano 76 million over the next 4 years. Of course they’ve got far more margin for error financially so it probably doesn’t matter all that much.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 18, 2009 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

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