Game Thread #124: Brewers (60-63) at Nationals (44-80)
by Kyle Lobner on Aug 24, 2009 2:30 PM CDT
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PrintMilwaukee Brewers at Washington Nationals, Aug 24, 2009 3:35 PM CDT
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Milwaukee Brewers Monday, Aug 24, 2009, 3:35 PM CDT Yovani Gallardo vs Collin Balester Partly cloudy,rain. Winds blowing in from center field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game time temperature around 85. |
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Everyone loves a Yovani-day, right!
Follow the jump for today's pitching matchup, lineup and conversation on today's game!
Collin Balester (1-3, 6.75) is making his seventh start, but is averaging slightly more than four innings pitched in each of his first six games. His only win in 2009 was against the Brewers on July 28. He's posted a 10.97 ERA and allowed six home runs in his last three starts. Last time out, he allowed three earned runs on three hits and five walks in just 1.1 innings of work, lasting just 51 pitches.
Meanwhile, Yovani Gallardo (11-10, 3.56) comes into today's start in the top ten in the NL in hits per nine innings (fourth), strikeouts (third) and walks (third). Opposing batters are hitting just .197/.295/.364 off of him in his last three starts, but he's just 1-2 in that time. He beat the Nationals on July 30, allowing three earned runs over seven innings and striking out eleven.
Here's today's lineup, courtesy of Tyler Barnes:
Felipe Lopez 2B
Frank Catalanotto RF
Ryan Braun LF
Prince Fielder 1B
Casey McGehee 3B
Mike Cameron CF
Jason Kendall C
Yovani Gallardo P
Alcides Escobar SS
And in the bullpen:
Mark DiFelice pitched 1 inning (12 pitches) yesterday, and also pitched on Saturday.
Carlos Villanueva pitched 2.2 innings (56 pitches) yesterday.
Chris Narveson pitched 2.2 innings (34 pitches) Saturday
Todd Coffey pitched one inning (18 pitches) Saturday.
Trevor Hoffman pitched one inning (9 pitches) Saturday
Claudio Vargas pitched one inning (7 pitches) Saturday.
David Weathers pitched one inning (14 pitches) yesterday.
Mitch Stetter last pitched on Sunday, August 16.
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So it is a Yo day game
That means our high powered offense will score 0-1 runs right?
Maybe Yo can hit a Home run or two by himself and win 2-1
Oh and apparently Cammy has remembered he is in a contract year over the last week and is actually hitting the ball nice of him to show up.
The Cult of Cameron Live it Love it never question your love for our Center Fielder.
Greatest Brewers to ever lace them up.
How are the shadows in Washington's park?
It’s afternoon/evening game, so i’ll guess the offense will put up 2-3 runs.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
i guess late afternoon would be the correct terminology
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
There's a reason why we all love him!
by Getting Yosted on Aug 24, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Careful being mean will get you banned. Diffrence is I could care less what you think MY.
The Cult of Cameron Live it Love it never question your love for our Center Fielder.
Greatest Brewers to ever lace them up.
by WSB Chris on Aug 24, 2009 3:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Strike him out, Yo
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Adam Dunn has 311 career home runs and won't turns 30 until November.
If I set the over-under for his career total at 575, which one do you want?
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
That's a tough one.
At best, he’s probably got three or four more years in the NL. He’s a butcher in left field, and he’s not much better at first. He could go to the AL and DH until he’s 39 … if he feels like it.
I’m going to say under. I think he’ll finish right around 500.
Under
I don’t think he’s going to be hitting 40 HRs a year well into his 30s. I think he’ll have a steep decline, starting at about 32.
also
the guys who score had high similarity scores to him are guys like Gorman Thomas, Incaviglia, Gus Zernial, who didn’t wear well. However, nobody scores in the 900s, so Dunn may be unique.
Well
575 would be 264 more. Here’s my math:
8 more this season to reach 40
Five more seasons at 40 each for 200 more.
So at that point he’d turn 35 and sitting on 521. If he can stay healthy that long, then 54 more in his career is pretty easy.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Yeah, I go under too
but I don’t think he’ll be that far away from 575.
Of course, to give it a Brewers slant, Jason Kendall is currently on 74 home runs. I’m setting the over/under for career total at 75…
"I hope your name is Rick"
Ueck telling people to come to the stadium and let their families eat by themselves
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
I for one
Can’t wait till he’s playing for someone else…
And now couldn’t find the handle on a SB attempt.
I don't know if this is pessimism or realism.
But if I had to put odds on it, I’d give it about 75/25 that Kendall comes back next year, and about 65/35 that he opens 2010 as the primary catcher.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
I really hope its pessimism
"my goodness"
by BrewHaHeather on Aug 24, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, here's my logic.
1) Given the fact that the organization is standing behind him and playing him damn near everyday, it would appear they’re not disappointed with his performance, at least not enough so to merit trying an alternative.
2) There’s not a clear cut alternative, at least in the organization’s eyes. They must not like Rivera for some reason, Salome and Lucroy aren’t sure-fire prospects.
So, I can see them giving Kendall one more year. Someone will have to keep me from jumping off a rooftop when it happens, but I think it’ll happen.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Replacement level
At this point, you could pick up any number of catchers that no other team wants, and they would be comparable to Kendall. Unless he’s willing to take a substantial pay cut, I can’t imagine Melvin bringing Kendall back.
Kendall makes $4.2 million this year. For what? To be last in just about every offensive category, and his much vaunted defense was a short-lived phenomenon. The Rangers are stockpiling catchers this year. I bet Melvin could have productive discussions with them about bringing over a non-Pudge catcher, if he doesn’t care to just pick up a replacement-level guy.
Rivera makes $395,000 this year. Melvin could pick up 2 more Riveras from AAA or somebody’s bench, and rotate them all next year and get similar performance. He could apply the remaining $3 million toward signing a pitcher, either a reliever or a back of the rotation guy. It’s just silly to overpay like that for a catcher when you complain to the media how hard it is for small market teams to compete.
by Marty McSuperFly on Aug 24, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Right.
All of those reasons are why I’m going to be pissed when it happens.
But, based on his playing time and the apparent lack of accountability for him, I think Melvin thinks Kendall is somehow better than any significant stat would suggest.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
There's gotta be a GRIT joke in there with that wild pitch...
…but my joke making has failed lately.
"My name is Jason Kendall, and I am here to murder your season. Prepare to die 2009 Brewers." - molitorfan
Way to use your hose, Escobar
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
From the THwitter:
They’re playing at 4:35 instead of 1 p.m. so they won’t dump game traffic into rush hour. I don’t think the seven extra cars would have hurt
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
*rimshot*
"My name is Jason Kendall, and I am here to murder your season. Prepare to die 2009 Brewers." - molitorfan
Also this:
They just announced the game time temperature at Nationals Park as 84 for Brewers-Nats, which also happens to be the attendance.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Boom, Roasted.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
45 pitches through 2 innings
yeah, that sounds about right
"my goodness"
by BrewHaHeather on Aug 24, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
what was his IP/Pitch Count
when Rivera caught him?
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Has Rivera been catching Gallardo?
More than the one time, anyway?
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
yeah, i meant the one time when he caught him
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Right?
Didn’t he catch his last 2 starts?
by Zorakathura on Aug 24, 2009 4:23 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
aww crap
Forgot this Sunday is Suppan bobble day.
I kind of want to smash mine on the floor after I get it.
Don't smash it, it'll be worth something on Ebay someday.
BUT, if you have a bobble head sized dunce cap…
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Got the Braun one here
Could give the circumfrence of his head and then go from there. :D
"My name is Jason Kendall, and I am here to murder your season. Prepare to die 2009 Brewers." - molitorfan
Suppan
I live in the neighborhood where Suppan’s shitbox of a restaurant is. I’ve been thinking of going there and doing a little dine and dash. Now, I would sit at the bar as to not stiff a waitress and I’d probably leave a snarky note behind explaining my actions. Anyone have thoughts on such a maneuver?
ps went there to watch game three of the Brewers playoffs last year there and had to ask them to put the game on. It was all college football.
"It may sound hollow, it may sound unrealistic, it may even sound stupid to some people. We still think we are in it," - Mark Attanasio
I'll vote no.
Because I doubt the loss would actually come out of Suppan’s pocket. And if it did, it’s not a significant loss to him anyway.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Most likely he's only a part owner... just to get his backing.
He’d most likely end up ripping off whomever took his order… like the bartender.
It's always stealing
Unless there’s defensive indifference.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Probably not the best idea
I almost always run into people I know when I’m out and about. If you don’t get caught trying to leave, someone will track you down.
CounsellWSMVP10!
Go on Wing Wednesday
Then he can watch you from the clubhouse!
by Marty McSuperFly on Aug 24, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
You'd probably do more damage
by simply posting a bad review online. bad publicity might deter some people from trying it. Or walk by and let a rat in the kitchen
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Irribaren headed down?
When Jeff Suppan is activated Tuesday, manager Ken Macha said it’s “a very strong likelihood” the Brewers will go with 13 pitchers.
Per THwitter
HA!
Yeah it is silly. Best just to express my snark here then. I was in the mood for a caper though
"It may sound hollow, it may sound unrealistic, it may even sound stupid to some people. We still think we are in it," - Mark Attanasio
Send them a fake invoice:
10 million dollars for 500 meatballs.
by Zorakathura on Aug 24, 2009 4:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
hahahahaha
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Balester
No hitter through 3.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Nice job!
:)
"My name is Jason Kendall, and I am here to murder your season. Prepare to die 2009 Brewers." - molitorfan
Is that you BA?
"It may sound hollow, it may sound unrealistic, it may even sound stupid to some people. We still think we are in it," - Mark Attanasio
Why are we batting escobar 9th?
I still don’t get it…
captainbok: What do you like the most about milwaukee
Jeff Suppan: Captain Bok, that is a great question. Does "Bok" mean Book of Knowledge? My favorite thing about Milwaukee are the Brewers.
My prediction may have been generous.
This game has four-inning, 100-pitch outing written all over it.
Nyjer trying to take out all the Nats fans?
"My name is Jason Kendall, and I am here to murder your season. Prepare to die 2009 Brewers." - molitorfan
He's just trying to take people out all over!
"My name is Jason Kendall, and I am here to murder your season. Prepare to die 2009 Brewers." - molitorfan
I can't believe Yo's pitching and we're losing 1-0
captainbok: What do you like the most about milwaukee
Jeff Suppan: Captain Bok, that is a great question. Does "Bok" mean Book of Knowledge? My favorite thing about Milwaukee are the Brewers.
Nice jinx!
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
Cat, you're so lucky that throw was off....
"My name is Jason Kendall, and I am here to murder your season. Prepare to die 2009 Brewers." - molitorfan
Is it just quiet in here, or is something wrong?
Stepped away for several minutes and came back to no activity.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
I thought the same thing, that it was too quiet
…at least it wasn’t just my wireless telling me “phbbbbbt”.
"My name is Jason Kendall, and I am here to murder your season. Prepare to die 2009 Brewers." - molitorfan
Braun!
Ending the quiet spell!
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
3rd time through everyone is due.
by Zorakathura on Aug 24, 2009 5:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Thank goodness math is on our side still
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
COME ON GUYS MY GAMECAST IS LAGGING WHATS HAPPENING
captainbok: What do you like the most about milwaukee
Jeff Suppan: Captain Bok, that is a great question. Does "Bok" mean Book of Knowledge? My favorite thing about Milwaukee are the Brewers.
It's about time...I can't believe we went 5 scoreless
This is Cole Ballester…he’s a AAA perennial if i’ve ever seen one
captainbok: What do you like the most about milwaukee
Jeff Suppan: Captain Bok, that is a great question. Does "Bok" mean Book of Knowledge? My favorite thing about Milwaukee are the Brewers.
It hasn't seemed like the shift has been real effective against Prince lately
Or is that just me?
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
Not just you.
His ability to go oppo seems to be making him a much more dangerous hitter.
by Cheeseandcorn on Aug 24, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
This Braun kid isn't half bad
We should keep him around for another year.
I'm going to take credit for this turn around, i started watching in the bottom of the fifth
Sorry for not getting here sooner
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
What are the avg. runs scored bases loaded no outs?
by Zorakathura on Aug 24, 2009 5:25 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I think I found it myself 2.21 runs.
by Zorakathura on Aug 24, 2009 5:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Because Kendall hits worse than Gallardo
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
reply fail
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
I don't think anyone hits worse than Kendall
"My name is Jason Kendall, and I am here to murder your season. Prepare to die 2009 Brewers." - molitorfan
Jody Gerut?
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
Alcides Escobar?
Worked last time…
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
What about Lopez?
"My name is Jason Kendall, and I am here to murder your season. Prepare to die 2009 Brewers." - molitorfan
I was going to, but that's saying something I know isn't true
but, what the hell, Felipe Lopez?
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
woudn't a Kendall slam there have been awesome?
not just for the runs, but just for pure unlikeliness
"my goodness"
I would have gone to buy a lotto ticket
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
Jody Gerut has reached base in three straight games.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
Wow
There might be 1000 fans in the park, but the camera shot of Alcides’ pop up showed that there are some people way up in the third deck…and you might be closer to the action in Baltimore.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
I got Henry Hatworth and the Puzzling Adventure today and can't stop playing it.
Now I have two reasons to recommend it.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
so i missed it
(was at the dmv)
but it looks like a few more steals against yovani, which i believe also was the case last time out. is he not holding anyone on?
Kendall had some bad throws.
They also has some well timed steals against breaking balls.
by Zorakathura on Aug 24, 2009 5:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
not to beat a dead horse
(i assume it’s in poor taste to say “not to beat a kendall to death”)
but if he can’t hit, can’t throw, and if yovani was at 108 PC, you could argue he didn’t call a good game…
ramon hernandez is a FA. even if he’s on the DL for half a season, that still seems like a better alternative to our current starter.
by Capt Science on Aug 24, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
well, if you want to talk better alternatives
this is also a better option.
by Capt Science on Aug 24, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
How?
The balls hit the net instead of hitting a glove. The pitcher is then responsible for all pitches he does or doesn’t make correctly instead of blaming it (partly, whether deserved or not) on some guy bent down in a semi-crowded area.
CounsellWSMVP10!
ehn
the joke’s not really funny enough to pursue. but, yeah, i was implying that it’d be more effective to throw into a “backyard net” than to kendall. it was supposed to remind you wistfully of your childhood. i had to throw a tennis ball against a garage door, but pasting a link to a garage door would probably just confuse folks even more than that net apparently did.
by Capt Science on Aug 24, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
What bratty kid has his own net.
by Zorakathura on Aug 24, 2009 6:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I did
But only because I beat the crap out of the side of my dad’s garage first.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
So how many runs do we need for 4 innings of Brewers bullpen?
by Zorakathura on Aug 24, 2009 5:38 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah beware Willingham's in the house
"It may sound hollow, it may sound unrealistic, it may even sound stupid to some people. We still think we are in it," - Mark Attanasio
Even when we aren't in Miller Park
when Cat comes on I still have “I don’t wanna lose your love” in my head
better than 2 girls 1 cup
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
Was that a shot at the cards by Rock?
" Normally the cards aren’t real paranoid."
by Zorakathura on Aug 24, 2009 5:53 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Ladies and gentlemen, the Milwaukee Brewers are officially done with Nyjer Morgan for 2009.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
And there was much rejoicing
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
Watch him get traded to the Cubs.
by Zorakathura on Aug 24, 2009 6:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't even want to think about that
"my goodness"
by BrewHaHeather on Aug 24, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Who are these people....
…and whatever they did with Vargas and Gerut, DON’T bring them back.
"My name is Jason Kendall, and I am here to murder your season. Prepare to die 2009 Brewers." - molitorfan
I'm glad the Brewers look pretty good tonight
Because I’m not anticipating a good day tomorrow.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
I think I'll take a chance
and go to the game anyway.
BTW
John Smoltz was on Dan Patrick this morning talking about how Chris Carpenter alerted him to the fact that he was tipping his pitches. Kind of odd that no one on the Red Sox was able to figure that out.
"It may sound hollow, it may sound unrealistic, it may even sound stupid to some people. We still think we are in it," - Mark Attanasio
What happened to Stetter & DeFelice?
Did they just hit the IP wall?
by Zorakathura on Aug 24, 2009 6:45 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Your untucking thread
is open.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
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