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Trevor Hoffman still doesn't untuck, but it's nice to see him celebrating a Brewer victory anyway.

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Trevor Hoffman still doesn't untuck, but it's nice to see him celebrating a Brewer victory anyway.

Some things to read while getting your MST3K fix.

Today's biggest news is, without question, the health of Corey Hart. After complaining of abdominal pain during Saturday's game and again on Sunday, Hart left the clubhouse before yesterday's game and ended up having an appendectomy in San Diego last night. Hart will be placed on the DL and is expected to miss a minimum of 2-3 weeks. Michael Street of Baseball Digest Daily wonders if losing him might be the last straw for the Crew.

Hart will be replaced on the roster by Bill Hall, who returns to the team after just a few days in AAA. Hall was 4-for-8 in AAA entering play yesterday, but went 0-for-6 with a walk and three strikeouts in a doubleheader last night. Hall and Frank Catalanotto are expected to platoon in right field while Hart is out.

At least one Brewer starting pitcher on the DL is getting closer to returning: Dave Bush threw 25 pitches in a bullpen session yesterday, and could head out on a rehab assignment as soon as the end of this week. Jeff Suppan, meanwhile, is complaining of "fatigue" in his strained oblique muscle when he throws. He's not expected to miss much more than 15 days, at any rate.

With Bush and Suppan still out, the Brewers made one minor move at the trading deadline, picking up Claudio Vargas from the Dodgers in exchange for Vinny Rottino. There's plenty of reaction from all over the web on that move:

Here's the first few paragraphs of Anthony Witrado's story on Vargas from this weekend:

The last time Claudio Vargas was in a Milwaukee Brewers clubhouse, he was packing his belongings and trying to figure out what had just happened to him.

That was during spring training last year right after Vargas, who wasn't pitching poorly, was released by the club because, get this, they had an abundance of starting pitching.

How times have changed.

Actually, after two slow-moving appearances where Vargas allowed four baserunners and two earned runs in 1.1 innings of work, maybe times haven't changed that much at all. It could always be worse, though: The Brewers could sign Sidney Ponson, who was recently designated for assignment by the Royals and surfaced in Speculationville.

The Brewers managed to win just one of three games over the weekend in San Diego, and are digging themselves a pretty deep hole in the NL Central:

  • Cool Standings gives the Brewers a 7.6% shot at making the playoffs.
  • Adam McCalvy noted that the Cardinals are on pace for 88 wins, and the Brewers would have to go 37-21 (36-21 following yesterday's win) down the stretch to reach that mark.
  • Vegas is giving the Brewers 50-1 odds of winning the World Series.

With that said, Tyler Maas has ten reasons to keep watching the Brewers down the stretch.

As the Brewers pitching continues to struggle, the calls continue to come for Bill Castro's head, but Drew Olson of OnMilwaukee.com says firing Castro would be the wrong decision.

Prince Fielder made some very impressive defensive plays over the weekend, but still came in 15th of 16 NL first basemen in Baseball Digest Daily's defensive rankings. The good news for the Brewers: Craig Counsell finished first among second basemen.

In the minors:

With Friday's trade deadline, it's been a busy weekend on the transaction wire:

Blue Jays: Placed reliever Scott Downs on the DL with an injury to his left big toe.
Braves: Acquired Adam LaRoche from the Red Sox for Casey Kotchman.
Giants: Placed outfielder Andres Torres on the DL with a hamstring strain.
Indians: Designated relievers Winston Abreu and Mike Gosling for assignment.
Mariners: Designated first baseman Chris Shelton for assignment.
Marlins: Acquired Nick Johnson from the Nationals for a minor league pitcher and placed Burke Badenhop on the DL with a sore neck.
Mets: Designated Robinson Cancel for assignment.
Orioles: Placed pitcher Brad Bergesen on the DL with a bruised shin.
Padres: Released Mark Prior.
Rangers: Placed Ian Kinsler on the DL with a hamstring strain.
Rays: Signed reliever Jeff Bennett and added him to their 25-man roster.
Red Sox: Acquired Victor Martinez from the Indians for Justin Masterson and two minor league pitchers.
Reds: Acquired Scott Rolen from the Blue Jays for three minor leaguers and traded Jerry Hairston to the Yankees for a minor league catcher.
Rockies: Acquired Joe Beimel from the Nationals for two minor leaguers and placed reliever Juan Rincon on the DL with elbow stiffness.
Tigers: Acquired Jarrod Washburn from the Mariners for Luke French and a minor league pitcher.
Twins: Acquired Orlando Cabrera from the A's for a minor league shortstop.
White Sox: Acquired Jake Peavy from the Padres for Clayton Richard and three minor league pitchers.

Some parents pick their children's names out of baby books or name them after relatives. Not everyone does it that way, though: Here's the story of how the parents of Astros rookie Bud Norris got his name off a beer can.

On this day in 1997, Jeromy Burnitz hit a pinch hit home run for the second straight day. The Brewers lost both games to the Mariners.

Happy birthday today to Justin Lehr, who pitched in 39 games for the Brewers in 2005 and 2006 and turns 32 today.

Drink up.

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No Patterson news?

Hoping we are plus one Patterson amd minus one Gerut by next week.

by Mr. McGehee on Aug 3, 2009 10:39 AM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Really?

Patterson’s OPS the last three full seasons:
2006: .276/.314/.443
2007: .269/.304/.386
2008: .205/.238/.344

Gerut’s OPS last year and this (half) year:
2008: .296/.351/.494
2009: .199/.236/.323

I’m not an expert on defensive metrics, but at first glance, they look pretty similar.

Patterson hasn’t OPSed .800 since a half-season six years ago, when he was 23. Gerut, on the other hand, did it last year—in a pitchers’ park. I know who I’d rather have.

by Cheeseandcorn on Aug 3, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i totally agree, but watch yourself Mr. McGehee

there are many, many Gerut disciples around here.

"This one means 'Kill Kirk!!!!'... And also, 'hallelujah'... Depending on the context."

by trippingandy on Aug 3, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wha?

come again?

i just see those that were glad to get rid of TGjr, not add Gerut

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 3, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

There’s a difference between liking Gerut and liking the idea of getting rid of TGJ

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Aug 3, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i've just read some of the posters here talking him like he's the second coming/

best thing since indoor plumbing. i didn’t/don’t have too much respect for either of them

"This one means 'Kill Kirk!!!!'... And also, 'hallelujah'... Depending on the context."

by trippingandy on Aug 3, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't recall seeing a single one of those.

But, since you’ve already built that straw man, you might as well beat the crap out of it.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by KLSnow on Aug 3, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this sarcasm goes to 11

it’s a reference to a commenter that burns me up.

apologies to all involved

"This one means 'Kill Kirk!!!!'... And also, 'hallelujah'... Depending on the context."

by trippingandy on Aug 3, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

For the record

I’m not a Gerut fan, either. I just think Patterson’s terrible.

by Cheeseandcorn on Aug 3, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i concur

every gerut AB, i die a little inside

"This one means 'Kill Kirk!!!!'... And also, 'hallelujah'... Depending on the context."

by trippingandy on Aug 3, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No no oh my goodness good lord no this would be terrible news

I would honestly do a 2000 word rant and post it one the front page if this were to happen. you guys can hold me to it. It would be the most angry rant I would have ever written.

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Aug 4, 2009 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Escobar's wife

Wasn’t there a big storm earlier in the year because she called him out to the press for being a deadbeat dad or something? Apparently they reconciled?

by keephopealive on Aug 3, 2009 10:52 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

no one knows if it was true or not

That was the first think I had thought of, though.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Aug 3, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Werewolf and Future War

are two of my favorite MST3K episodes.

by levnclf on Aug 3, 2009 10:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Final Justice was better than Future War.

“But mommy, can’t I have just one more justice?”
“You’d better run…cuz he’s got the runs”

by Yar Nivek on Aug 3, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Werewolf is the best, no question.

Space Mutiny is probably my second favorite.

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by Jack Moore on Aug 3, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Puma Man

(sings)
Pu-Ma Man,
He flies like a Moran

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Aug 3, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Aug 3, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

prince of space is a great mst3k

the time traveler one is a good one too

"This one means 'Kill Kirk!!!!'... And also, 'hallelujah'... Depending on the context."

by trippingandy on Aug 3, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

MST3K

The actors still parody movies and have moved to more recent films like The Dark Knight and Twilight. You can download the audio for the films here, at a nice low price.

"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"

RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving

by kirbir on Aug 3, 2009 11:40 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

McCalvy's predictions

McCalvy is right in saying that IF the Cardinals win 88 games, we would have to go (36-21 down the road to tie them. However, if the Brewers were to go 36-21, several of those wins would, most likely, come against the Cards. This would lower the Cardinals record, making it so that the Brewers would only need to go something like 33-24 or 34-23 to make the playoffs.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Aug 3, 2009 12:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget Cinematic Titanic

Joel started his own project with a lot of original writers and actors. It’s essentially MST3K including shadows. Not as good as the original, but nothing ever is. It’s still pretty good.

http://www.cinematictitanic.com/

by ecocd on Aug 3, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cardinals vs Cubs

When they play each other one of them has to win, increasing their win total. I made this same prediction last Thursday while waiting for the Washington-Milwaukee game to begin.

by statsllc on Aug 3, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

PETCO Fun Yesterday

So there was a pretty sizeable and vocal Brewers contingent in left field yesterday, behind Braun and Headley. Braun took a bit of razzing from the Padres fans, but Headley was definitely getting the worst of it from the Brewers fans. Some of the better comments directed his way:

“Check your cheat-sheet again!” — He visibly pulled out his defensive cheat sheet and checked it several times.

“You better back up. Counsell has good opposite-field power!” — That one was mine.

“Move in. Kendall’s batting!”

“Chase, when did the Phillies trade you?”

“Hey, Utley!”

“Number 7? Is that Mickey Mantle?”

by Brew Angel on Aug 3, 2009 12:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice Job!

Creative Heckling is fun. It certainly beats, “Heeeeadleyyy, Heeeeadleyyy, Heeeeadleyyy, YOU SUCK”

Most. Uncreative. Chant. Ever.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Aug 3, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did anyone else see that there's a twitter tag about Counsell?

“#COUNSELL09WSMVP” :)

"If lovin’ Braun is wrong, I want to be a repeat offender!"

RIP Nick Adenhart - Stop Drunk Driving

by kirbir on Aug 3, 2009 12:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll have to add that to my twitter tags :)

Hopefully it’ll replace #firemacha or one of my NASCAR tags.

by suphalissa on Aug 3, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hall over Heether?

seriously? WTF is melvin thinking?

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 3, 2009 12:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What am I missing with Heether?

Lots of people seem to be pulling for him, which is fine, but his MLE gives him a .703 OPS.

Neither is going to get many ABs as the 25th man, so I think you might as well go with the guy with MLB experience who has a good glove.

by Supertramp on Aug 3, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hall's MLE

is around .200;)

Heether played left recently, so I assume he can play right, unless you’re afraid of too many doubles stretched to triples.

didn’t realize that heether isn’t on 40man. that’s probably a primary factor

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 3, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just a guess

1. Hall can probably play RF
2. Hall is on the 40 roster, Heether isn’t
3. Any former Rangers on the waiver wire?
4. Any Canadians?
5. Tacos would make for a good lunch

by Getting Yosted on Aug 3, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Waiver Trades

Say the Brewers put a player, we’ll call him Tom Sawyer, on waivers, looking to trade him to another team, we’ll call them Rush. When Rush put in a claim for Tom Sawyer, can the brewers remove him from waivers immediately and work out a deal before somebody else, we’ll call them the Huckleberry Finns, claim him? Or do they have to wait for a period to see if other teams like the Finns, put in a claim?

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Aug 3, 2009 2:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

My understanding is that there is a 48 hour window, and the Brewers can’t pull the player off until that window has been closed and every team has had a chance at putting a claim in.

by Supertramp on Aug 3, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

::Blank Stare::

Imagine the Brewers offense without Ryan & Prince.
-Bill Schroeder

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Aug 3, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Tramp's thinking is right.

Every team gets a chance to claim the player who was put on waivers. If there’s more than one claim, the team with the worst record has dibs. You can then pull the player back from waivers, work out a trade with the worst-record team, or just let the worst-record team take the dude.

by Rubie Q on Aug 3, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's a period, but I don't know how long probably 24 or 48 hours

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2006/08/waiver_trade_ru.html

The waiver part works like normal. Brewers put Tom on the waiver wire for 47 hours. If no one claims him, the Brewers can trade with any team. If the Rush alone claim him, they have 72 hours to work out a trade with the Brewers. If no trade can be worked out, then the Brewers can either pull Tom back (must stay on the Brewers roster for the next 30 days) or just hand him – and his full contract – over to the Rush.

If the Finns put in a claim, then the above scenario plays out for the team with the lowest winning percentage. There’s no “falling down” to the next team in line.

The full contract part is why Bill Hall can be safely placed on waivers as part of a post-waiver deal.

by ecocd on Aug 3, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are revocable waivers are different than the waivers we put TGJ on earlier this season?

when nobody picked him up

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Aug 3, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Found this link useful

http://www.purplerow.com/2009/2/19/762532/mlb-transactions-part-thre

Has a lot of the differences between the different types of waivers.

by Supertramp on Aug 3, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh.

I thought it was 72 hours to work out a trade. 48.5 hours. Sure. Um. That amount of time makes sense. Do they go down to seconds, too?

Thanks for the link!

by ecocd on Aug 3, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, if I'm reading Tramp's link right,

We DFA’d TGJ, with the intent of sending him to Nashville. Because he’s out of options, he has to be placed on irrevocable waivers before he can be sent down. He was made available to all 29 teams, nobody claimed him, and he gets outrighted to Nashville.

Now: this seems to be different than the scenario a couple years back when the BoSox put Manny Ramirez on irrevocable waivers after the season. My understanding — at that time — is that any team that claimed Manny would be on the hook for his contract, which, then, was considered prohibitively expensive. But the link on Purple Row says that a player placed on irrevocable waivers can be had for $20,000, plus the minimum salary.

Clearly, I’m missing something. Can anybody help me see what I’m overlooking?

by Rubie Q on Aug 3, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Manny was put on irrevocable waivers.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by KLSnow on Aug 3, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, the player would have to be released for the new team to be on the hook for only the minimum

If a team won the claim, they would have to pay the $20k or whatever the waiver claim price is PLUS whatever is left on his contract.

That’s why expensive players make it through waivers, because teams that want them hope they’re released and the original team foots the bill.

Q: What happens if a player on irrevocable waivers is claimed by another team?
A: If a player on irrevocable waivers is claimed, the club that put the player on waivers cannot rescind the waiver process. Once he is claimed, the player is the property of the claiming club, which would then be responsible for the player’s contract.

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by TheJay on Aug 4, 2009 4:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

is the GM (or big tuna) of the Huckeberry Finns

Samuel Langhorne Clemens or is it Mark Twain? I think it makes a difference in this discussion

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 3, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

His baseball Pen name is Doug Dombrowski

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Aug 3, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hall in RF?

Sad to say that he wins starting job. Why do we have no one better to replace? Guessing Hernan to AAA by Saturday, Patterson to MIL. I hope we get a decent return on him.

by Mr. McGehee on Aug 3, 2009 5:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just curious

Why do you like Corey Patterson so much?

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by TheJay on Aug 4, 2009 4:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just guessing here

because he’s neither bill hall nor jody gerut, who have both demonstrated that they suck in a Brewers uniform.

I think he’s arguing that anyone would be better than the two prime “internal” options.

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I should've phrased it differently anyway

More along the lines of why he thinks Patterson will be called up rather than saying he likes him.

But even if you think Gerut’s 50 AB in a Brewers uniform are as good as he’ll ever be going forward, what’s wrong with Catalanotto for a month with Gerut being the fourth outfielder who doesn’t play anyway?

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by TheJay on Aug 4, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wondering that myself

why hall over cat?
cat not have enough power?

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 4, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

new tagline?

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Aug 3, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's true.

I didn’t see a single “You have no concept” in that conversation, nor anyone being called a casual.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by KLSnow on Aug 3, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank God nobody asked what MST3K was.

I might have had to make something up like…"It’s a new stat we invented for Bill Hall. It means “Missed Swinging Through 3 Strikes”.

by Yar Nivek on Aug 3, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

wait, that's not what it means? ;)

"This one means 'Kill Kirk!!!!'... And also, 'hallelujah'... Depending on the context."

by trippingandy on Aug 3, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Intriguing pitching matchups vs. Dodgers

Parra vs. Kershaw: which Parra will we see tonight? If he’s on, expect a low scoring game in pitcher friendly Dodger Stadium.

Gallardo vs. Kuroda: The Brewers could get Kuroda out of the game early, as he doesn’t go deep into contests. Maybe Mota will bring the gas can to the mound.

Looper vs. Schmidt: Looper has been struggling of late, but then again, who knows which Jason Schmidt we’re gonna get.

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