Wednesday's Frosty Mug
So the Brewers had a pretty full day yesterday. A day that started with an appearance on the Price is Right (but no Plinko) ended with Prince Fielder trying to force his way into the Dodger clubhouse to confront former teammate Guillermo Mota, who hit him with a pitch under exceptionally questionable circumstances in the ninth inning of a 17-4 game. Craig Calcaterra called it "a scene out of late-80's WCW."
If you missed it (and odds are most of you did), Tristarscoop has a recap of the event and an abnormally heated Ken Macha press conference afterwards. Dodgers catcher Russell Martin probably didn't do Mota or Joe Torre any favors by acknowledging the pitch was intentional after the game, claiming it was retaliation for Chris Smith grazing Manny Ramirez (his 100th career HBP, by the way) earlier in the night.
I got this email from TheJay this morning, related to the incident, which makes a valid point:
Just wanted to note something my dad mentioned that I think has gotten lost in the shuffle. A big deal is being made about how Torre must have ordered the hit since a reliever was warming with two out in the ninth in a 13 run game. At first blush, I thought it was pretty classless, too, but in Torre's defense, Mota had already thrown nearly 40 pitches, more than he had all season, and Troncoso might have been staying loose down there just in case Mota ran out of gas.With the loss last night, Cool Standings dropped the Brewers' playoff chances to 4.9%, below 5% for the first time all season. They had never dropped below 10% before last week. With that said, Michael Street of Baseball Digest Daily says Hiroki Kuroda, who beat the Brewers last night, is baseball's best Asian starter.
Moving on, the off day tomorrow gives the Brewers an opportunity to skip one spot in the starting rotation this week, and Ken Macha has decided to skip Mike Burns and start Carlos Villanueva on Friday. By the time the Brewers need a fifth starter again, Jeff Suppan may be ready to return. Adam McCalvy reported yesterday that both Suppan and Dave Bush had successful bullpen sessions yesterday. Sounds like Suppan will return directly to the rotation, while Dave Bush will be sent down for a minor league rehab appearance.
There's also good news today for Corey Hart: He's expected to be released from the hospital today, and will likely fly home to Milwaukee.
Here's a silver lining, if you're into silver linings: Andy Seiler has a projected draft order for the 2010 June draft, and the Brewers' recent struggles have moved them up to the 15th spot. Because picks 1-15 cannot be taken away for compensatory reasons, having pick #15 would mean the Brewers would only lose their second round pick if they sign a Type A free agent this offseason.
Jason Kendall, meanwhile, is doing his best to keep the Brewers in the top 15. Dugout Central named Kendall to their NL All-Stink Team, and Brewers Daily credits Kendall with having "that extra something ... hype by the media to make a bad player look like he helps a team."
As young as the Brewers are, they're getting a large chunk of their production from two aging veterans. As Al noted yesterday, there are only four players in all of baseball over age 36 who consistently play the field and have accumulated enough ABs to qualify for the batting title, and the Brewers have two of them: Mike Cameron and Craig Counsell.
The Brewers are one Trevor Hoffman appearance away from witnessing history. As TheJay noted over at Recondite Baseball, Trevor Hoffman's next game finished will be his 803rd, passing Lee Smith for the all time record. To put that in perspective: Since the Brewers began play in 1969, only 31 pitchers in all of baseball have appeared in 803 games. Soon, Hoffman will have finished that many.
In the minors, Jesus Colome continues to build his case for a major league callup. He's only been with the team for a little more than a week, but Colome racked up two more scoreless innings and his second save for Nashville last night, giving him seven scoreless innings in four games as a Sound. Meanwhile, R.J. Swindle got knocked around again last night and has now surrendered 12 earned runs in 6.2 innings as a Brewer.
In another minor note, FanGraphs rated Cole Gillespie, sent to Arizona in the Felipe Lopez deal, as the 24th best prospect among 35 traded at the deadline.
Around baseball:
Cubs: Placed infielder Andres Blanco on the DL with a calf strain.
Indians: Designated reliever Jose Veras for assignment.
Mariners: Designated infielder Chris Woodward for assignment and announced that reliever Roy Corcoran, designated for assignment last week, has elected to become a free agent.
Someone could probably design and market a calendar based on obscure baseball roster rules and the time of year when you need to know them. August's page would be a refresher on waiver trades from former Blue Jays assistant GM Bart Given.
Giants rookie Joe Martinez, who hasn't pitched since being hit in the head by a line drive from Mike Cameron in April, will start for the Giants today against Houston. It's good to see him back on the mound.
On this day in 1994, the Brewers were one-hit by future Brewer Ben McDonald. David Nilsson collected the only Brewer hit off McDonald, who threw 145 pitches in the game.
I wasn't able to find any Brewer birthdays today, but Tommie Aaron, who played for the Milwaukee Braves in 1962, '63 and '65, would have turned 70 today. Also, Menasha, WI native Eric Hinske turns 32.
Drink up.
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I got a kick out of this line in TheJay's email:
“…and Troncoso might have been staying loose down there just in case Mota ran out of gas.”
From what I’ve seen, the manager is usually more worried about Mota bringing his gas can to the mound.
Blind MLB strikes again.
Obviously Fielder will deservingly get suspended for 3-10 games, because trying to enter an opposing team’s clubhouse is ridiculously poor judgment let alone what might have happened had he made it through the door. We can only hope no other Brewers will be caught in the fallout.
As far as “retaliation” goes, this is just another case of baseball needing to get its head out of its a$$ and enter the 21st century. When even hockey makes the effort to remove that kind of behavior from their game, you know you’re becoming an embarrassment to professional sports.
Simply put, make the suspensions hurt for a team. Give the commissioner or some “independent” committee complete and unchallenged authority to determine whether a pitch was intentional. No appeals, no nothing. It doesn’t matter if benches were warned. You throw at someone, you’re suspended within 48 hours.
Let the committee rule with an Iron Fist for a season or two to get it into the players’ and managers’ heads that this is no longer part of the game. As soon as pitchers see one or two 15 or 25-game suspensions handed down, they might start thinking about the impact for the team. If it’s not already part of the rule, ensure teams can’t replace that player on their 25-man roster during the suspension. Can any team give up a 25-man roster spot for 15-25 games? I don’t think anything less will stop the behavior, though less punitive punishment will probably be necessary to maintain it.
Sadly, I think every last one of us will agree that the only way this is going to change (whether you want the change or not) is when a player gets hit in the head on an intentional pitch and has a serious injury from it. There will be a lawsuit against the pitcher who threw the pitch and MLB for allowing the behavior to continue. ALL of the sportswriters in the US will start railing against the commissioner and MLB for saying that it “was only a matter of time” and it could’ve been stopped decades ago. The pitcher will go to jail for 30 days during the offseason and MLB will settle out of court for $5 million and the crackdown will occur … one batter too late. Let’s just hope that person isn’t a Brewer.
Your analogy with the NHL doesn't work...
The hits still happen, and they’re now almost getting worse. Although….I like you basically using the Todd Bertuzzi/Steve Moore incident, and turning it into baseball terms.
The problem is the NHL doesn't work.
Malkin should have been suspended for the third game of the Finals, because of an instigation penalty in the closing minutes of a loss. But the league overlooked their own rule to keep a superstar on the ice.
And with Jody Gerut and Bill Hall on the roster, one could argue the Brewers have had a 23 man roster since June.
by Getting Yosted on Aug 5, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
It's always going to be that way
The superstars of the sport, no matter WHAT sport, are going to get preferential treatment. I saw it this summer in the NHL. You see it in the NFL. You see it in the NBA. Hell, you see it in NASCAR. Is the league going to come out and say it? No. But the fans know.
One more birthday...
Bernie Carbo (8/5/67) played briefly on the Brewers in 1976. More importantly, he was traded with George Scott for Cecil Cooper.
Child labor laws were much more lax back then
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
What Prince did was very immature
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
I've posted a link on the front page
There’s video of the incident, and it’s not nearly as bad as many reports would have you believe.
"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."
dang, it won't load
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, ""That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
as i was typing on the other link
but then my touchpad interpretted that I was making the back arrow gesture and erased my post…
I can’t see one thing or the other. Looks to me that the camera dude arrived after things had already slighty simmered down. He wasn’t actively trying to get in the clubhouse at that point, but he probably was screaming obscenities inside (note, no audio).
In any case, it COULD have been as bad as indicated, but what we see is the tail end of it. Or, the story was overblown. One way or the other.
by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 5, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
So, the Nationals with the #1 pick again next year
Tell me exactly what leverage Boras thinks he has in the negotiations this year? If Strassbourgh doesn’t sign, he goes back to pitch at SD St next year and then get drafted by the Nationals with either pick 1 or 1A.
He can delay free agency by a year, take on the risk of a career-ending injury with no compensation and go to the same team after its all said and done. If the Nats can’t win this negotiation, they would be pretty close to the worst front office in the game. I thought the Reds had it locked up with the Volquez Tommy John fiasco.
Doesn’t the #1 overall pick alternate between the AL and NL?
by richardhkirkando on Aug 5, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Did it happen recently?
Looking at the last several drafts and the #1 overall pick:
2009-Washington
2008-Tampa Bay
2007-Tampa Bay
2006-Kansas City
2005-Arizona
by Getting Yosted on Aug 5, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Used to
But doesn’t any longer. It’s just based on straight record now.
by kingcharlesxii on Aug 5, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Nationals can't draft him again unless he gives permission
by CheezeconQueso on Aug 5, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
yes
that and his hometown team (Padres) has the pick after the Nats so that is what Boras is using as leverage.
2009 Brewers: Pass the liquor.
What if the Nats give his future indy league team $20 million to pitch him every inning for a year?
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