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Rampant Speculation: Filling out a coaching staff for 2010

The last few weeks haven't gone so well for Ken Macha, and there's an increasing possibility that he will and/or should be let go after just one season at the helm in Milwaukee. Until a few weeks ago, I was indifferent on Macha, and felt like he was worthy of one more season in the job before a full evaluation was given. In the last few weeks, however, he's made several moves that I found troubling in both short and long term situations. Here are the offenses we've seen in the last few weeks, and why they worry me.

Mat Gamel. Gamel entered this season as either prospect #1 or 2 on nearly everyone's prospect list, and was fully expected to contribute to the team this season. He made his 2009 debut on May 14, but stagnated on the bench for much of the next two months, picking up just 113 at bats in 57 team games. Despite posting a .267/.341/.493 line as a third baseman, he played in just 23 games there. Since being recalled, he's received just one pinch hit AB. He last appeared in a game on Wednesday: He entered the game as a pinch hitter and was removed without hitting (in a 5-0 game) when Tony La Russa changed pitchers.

Gamel entered the 2009 season as a key element in the Brewers' future plans, but Macha's decision to let him sit on the bench in May, June and now September may have cost him three months of development time this season, and now he could be sent back to Nashville to open 2010. I disagree with but understand the decision to play Casey McGehee more down the stretch, but burying Gamel at the end of the bench is a poor long term decision.

J.J. Hardy/Alcides Escobar. This is a tough situation, and even an expert manager may occasionally struggle with it. The Brewers have a league average at worst major league shortstop in J.J. Hardy, and a potential star in the making in Alcides Escobar, but both can only play one position, so Macha is forced to find a way for the two to split time and do the best he can with what he has. It's possible there's no correct answer, but some answers are certainly more wrong than others, and the way this situation has been handled was bad for several reasons:

  • When Hardy returned, Macha immediately started him on back to back days. The Brewers have done their best to deny sending Hardy down purely to delay his service clock. So, if Hardy didn't actually give the Brewers the best chance to win in Macha's opinion, then why did heimmediately slot back in as the starting shortstop upon his return?
  • Alcides Escobar, meanwhile, has been bounced around with and messed with in the lineup (batting ninth for his first several starts), when he plays at all. There is a legit argument to be made for batting a position player ninth in a properly constructed lineup. With that said, the fact that Escobar was the only position player to start in the nine hole this season doesn't make sense when considering we're talking about a top prospect and one of the potential faces of the franchise. Escobar has a hit in four of his last five games, but has played in just six of the team's 13 games in September.
  • Craig Counsell started at short yesterday. As I mentioned above, Macha is in a tough spot with two players who deserve and/or need to play, but he made that problem worse yesterday by benching them both to start a 39-year-old utility infielder. Counsell is having a nice season and several of us like him for various reasons and roles, but there's no excuse for taking opportunities away from Hardy and Escobar to give them to him.

Corey Patterson. He's been to the plate 3751 times this decade, and hit .252/.290/.405. Among players with at least 3000 PAs since 2000, he has the lowest OBP and the 11th lowest OPS. He's coming off a spring that saw him get released by baseball's worst team. Why he's on anyone's roster is a legit question, but Ken Macha started him and batted him leadoff on back to back days against the Cardinals last week. For perspective: Bill Hall's career OBP is 22 points higher than Patterson's. If Bill Hall had started in center and batted leadoff, there would have been enormous howls of protest. Macha found a way to do something worse. The next day, he did it again.

Ryan Braun. Braun has rested in two of the last seven games, for reasons that may or may not be medical. This by itself isn't a cause for alarm, but Macha's decision to tell the media Braun had a sore shoulder without talking to Braun about it was. Braun adamantly denied any issues to reporters, but the fact that the manager and his star player didn't make sure they had their story straight implies either a lack of communication or a communication failure. If something like this had happened with a role player, it wouldn't be important, but when it happens with one of your stars, it's a cause for concern.

Jason Kendall. We cover this topic a lot so I won't belabor it. Jason Kendall is one of baseball's worst hitters, and despite repeated evidence that the Brewers may have better options available, Kendall started nearly every game for several months this season. He's playing less and hitting better lately, but the fact that it took this long to realize a 35-year-old catcher with a .295 slugging percentage shouldn't catch every day is unfathomable.

Now, let me make myself perfectly clear: Ken Macha isn't the only thing wrong with the 2009 Brewers. Even with another manager at the helm, this was probably not a playoff team and almost certainly not a better team than last season. With that said, I think Macha has shown us enough to make the decision that he's not the best manager for this team, and it's time to move on.

Follow the jump for the 2010 coaching staff I would assemble, and feel free to offer yours in the comments.

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Manager: Dale Sveum. In hindsight, maybe Sveum should have been retained after finishing the season last year. Familiarity is the key for me here: Sveum has been with the team long enough to watch much of the young core develop. He knows their strengths and weaknesses, what they can and can't do and how they should and shouldn't be handled. He has limited managerial experience, but his brief run as manager in 2008 makes him a somewhat known commodity for the organization and its fans. He's a rare opportunity to provide a fresh face for the organization while also retaining a tie to recent success.

A quick aside - It's possible the managerial search before this season was one of the worst in recent memory. Consider the candidates:

  • Ken Macha, who we're already talking about firing.
  • Bob Brenly, who has gone on to repeatedly embarrass himself discussing the Brewers on Cubs TV broadcasts.
  • Willie Randolph, fresh off a train wreck of a managerial career in New York
  • Dale Sveum.

There's two candidates there who would have been terrible, a third that hasn't been very good, and one dismissed first for lack of experience. Maybe they should have looked a little harder.

Bench coach: Don Money. I'd love to keep Willie Randolph in this role and feel like he's done a lot of good here, but I suspect that he'll leave if Ken Macha is fired and he isn't hired to replace him. That's unfortunate, but the Brewers have another pretty talented manager-in-waiting with a track record with the organization in Don Money. He's managed over 1300 games over the last ten seasons in the minor leagues, and worked his way up the ladder with a lot of the Brewers' homegrown talent, having managed everyone from Prince Fielder and Rickie Weeks to Mat Gamel and Alcides Escobar. Again, I like the familiarity with the organization here: Money was involved in the development of a lot of the organization's present and future, and hopefully he can use that experience to put those players in the best position to succeed in Milwaukee.

Pitching coach: Chris Bosio. Again, familiarity with the organization is a nice asset. I'm not really comfortable evaluating Bosio based on his limited amount of time with the major league team, and I'm optimistic enough about him to give him a full season to work with in 2010.

Bullpen coach: Stan Kyles. I don't think I've seen a word written about Kyles one way or the other since spring training. That's not exactly a ringing endorsement, but it's not a reason to fire him, either. He stays.

Third base coach: Frank Kremblas. After managing for four years in Nashville, Kremblas left the organization this offseason to take the same job with Indianapolis in the Pirates' organization. Would he come back to the Brewers? It's hard to say, but I'd guess the lure of coaching in the big leagues and avoiding the bus rides of the minors is pretty strong. Like Sveum, Money and Bosio, Kremblas has extensive experience with many of the young players that will be the core of this team going forward, and like Money, he's managed over 1300 minor league games, so he'll be another voice of experience in the clubhouse.

First base coach: Ed Sedar. I see no reason to replace him, but also no reason to promote him. So I'll leave him where he is.

This would be a relatively young and major league experience-light coaching staff, but I think they're exactly what the 2010 Brewers will need: Someone who is familiar with and will understand the young core of this team, and will put them in positions to succeed and produce results at the major league level. The Brewers have built a pretty nice core of young talent, now it's time to put together a coaching staff that can maximize it.

What do you think? Do you like this staff? Would you change anything? Am I completely off base? Have at it. Speculation is fun.

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Not bad.

I’d give Bobby Valentine an interview if interested, I’ve always liked the guy,

by Mykenk on Sep 15, 2009 1:03 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

you forgot the hitting coach

unless you’d like Sveum to do double duty .

by morineko on Sep 15, 2009 1:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

All of them

have their pluses and places where they were successful, but I would much prefer a staff that comes from outside of the organization and wasnt filled with guys who used to play here.

I am not too thrilled with someone from within being the pitching coach because of familiarity. If anything that should be a strike against them given the organizations poor job of developing pitching.

I dont know of a lot of guys out there who could fill coaching positions, but I do know there are plenty of guys around the game, and the Brewers arent really thought of as a breeding ground for coaches.

My favs for manager would be Terry Pendleton or Ron Roenicke, and then let them build their own staffs.

by backtocali on Sep 15, 2009 1:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Criticisms...

Gamel – I don’t have a big issue with Macha not playing him. When he was first called up this season, the Brewers were still a playoff contender… not really a good time to play a rookie who is a defensive liability. I think that the Brewers are trying to give McGehee as much playing time as possible now to try to get him a shot at the ROY. However, I do agree that Gamel should be the second option for 3B… ahead of Counsell. If anything, let Gamel start and bring in Counsell late in the game (like they did with Braun in 2007).

Hardy/Escobar – Completely agree. Only one of these two guys should be starting at SS.

Patterson – I know I have previously posted that I thought he should be given yet another shot… but I agree that batting him lead-off was not what I had in mind.

Braun – Not sure what happened here, but I don’t think it’s indicative of a communication problem in the dugout.

Kendall – He calls a good game. Ok, all kidding aside, I’ve been wanting Rivera to play more and Kendall to play less since halfway through last season. Not sure what the pitchers are saying to the manager, but both Yost and Macha seem to love playing Kendall like he’s 10 years younger.

As far as your 2010 coaching staff…

I’d put Kremblas ahead of Money, but for some reason the FO doesn’t have much faith in Kremblas. I believe he asked to be released last season after they indicated to him that they didn’t have any plans to promote him to the MLB level. That being the case, I doubt if he’d come back… or if the FO would even put the offer out there.

I don’t have much faith in Sveum. Yes, he’s familiar with most of the players (which seems to be a common theme with each coach you named), but I don’t know if that’s enough. You could argue that when he took over as manager last season, the team was on auto-pilot… start Sabathia as many times as you can.

by sjlee on Sep 15, 2009 1:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Getting McGehee an award would be a terrible reason to play him ahead of Gamel

Overall, I’m not so sure about Sveum. I have standards way too high for a manager, but he sure was fond of small-ball and that. Wouldn’t be a terrible choice but we’d probably be complaining about too many sac bunts and the like.

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Sep 15, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why terrible?

If they plan on trading McGehee, a ROY award will only increase his value.

I don’t buy into Gamel needing to play in the the last few weeks of the season to help his development. If he’s not ready to be a MLB starter now, 20 or so games won’t make a difference.

by sjlee on Sep 15, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There might be 3-5 GMs in all of baseball that value awards like Gold Gloves, ROY, etc.

And they all should be fired.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Sep 15, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, those awards are based on performance...

and considering that the extra playing time has not resulted in McGehee’s decline in production, I still don’t have a problem with playing him more… even if it is simply to prime him for trading.

by sjlee on Sep 16, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Casey McGehee's trade value is probalby equivalent to an A-Ball pitcher.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Sep 16, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"not really a good time to play a rookie who is a defensive liability"

You mean like McGehee? I know McGehee’s numbers in the minors indicate that he’s solid defensively at 3rd, but whether it was because of his knee or some other issue, he’s struggled at times defensively this season, and he’s a rookie. While fielding percentage isn’t the best measure of defensive prowess, Gamel’s is actually .004 higher than McGehee’s in about half the chances. Defensively, there’s reason to beleive that this season there wasn’t much difference between McGehee and Gamel. And even if you were right on the issue of their defensive capabilities, it would still be a dumb ass reason to leave him rot on the bench now that their 15+ games out.

Essentially, Macha’s telling Gamel every day “We don’t believe in you. We don’t think you have anything to offer. You’re not in our plans.” If you can explain to me how that’s supposed to help Gamel develop, I’m all ears.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 15, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

let him learn humility?

i dunno. any chance he (Gamel) was being a cocksure jackass?

by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 15, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's some evidence of that in spring training...

… based on the incident where Cameron put his locker outside. But if that was an issue is it really a good idea to TRY to destroy a young player’s confidence? Would that have been a good move if they did it to Braun?

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 15, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it depends on how well that confidence does them

do people think it’s pure hubris, or something useful that keeps them confident and doing good things.

by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 15, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sort of like the last 3B they brought up?

The key difference being they played him every day, regardless of the poor defense.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Sep 16, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apples and oranges

They did needed someone to play 3B in 2007.

by sjlee on Sep 16, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Mr. Statistical outlier just happened to work out this year.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Sep 16, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he didn't, he probably wouldn't have played as much as he has...

and Gamel would have likely have been called up to start at 3B.

by sjlee on Sep 16, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Sep 16, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gamel had already been called up by the time McGehee began starting at 3rd

McGehee hit like crazy while playing second after Weeks went down. Gamel split time with Hall for a month until they moved McGehee over.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Sep 16, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which I guess is kind of your point

That Gamel would have stayed in the majors.

You know me Al.

by TheJay on Sep 16, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And really

my point was more that Braun is, and always has been, a cocksure jackass. He was just given the chance every day.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Sep 16, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok... I see your point.

I didn’t see which post your reply was in response to.

by sjlee on Sep 16, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no worries

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Sep 16, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They could (should?) have just let Gamel go after AAA was done.

While not playing him isn’t helping his development, they could be doing less, they could have just sent him home, like the majority of the AAA’ers.

by Mykenk on Sep 16, 2009 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can't compare their defensive stats considering the small sampling size for Gamel.

Looking at his most recent stats… more playing time could easily have resulted in a decline of his fielding percentage.

BTW – Your same sentiment could be applied to McGehee if they were playing Gamel everyday. “We don’t need you anymore. You’re not in our plans because we plan on trading you after this season since you’re obviously going to have a down season next year.”

by sjlee on Sep 16, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

McGehee was a depth pickup

No one ever expected him to perform as he has. And it is increasingly evident he has the knees of an arthritic 80 year old man, so he may not be able to play every day.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Sep 16, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't go that far

regarding the 80 yo man comment, but you are correct that he has exceeded expectations. Probably evens out the disappointment with Hall.

by sjlee on Sep 16, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, that depends

on if Melvin will give him a big contract based on one year. Not that it would be out of character. See also: Suppan, Jeff.

Look I’m all for McGehee starting everyday next year. I just don’t know if he can. And never forget Corey Hart. Which was the statistical anomaly? The past season-and-a-half? Or the first approximately 2 (256AB in 2006, full year in 2007, half year 2008) seasons?

But, really, going into Spring Training, who was saying “Casey McGehee is gonna be the everyday guy at 3B this year”? I don’t think, with Gamel and Taylor Green, the FO decided to pick up McGehee as its permanent solution.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Sep 16, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree for the most part

Particularly on the critique of Macha, though I do think you’re a little too harsh on Randolph; I don’t really think it’s fair to blame the Mets’ struggles entirely on him, especially considering how much of a train wreck that entire organization is. Honestly I think Randolph’s firing reflects more on them than on him.

P.S. sorry if this posts twice, I’m having computer issues.

Brewers Baseball and other assorted nonsense (mostly the assorted nonsense) at my blog, What's a Tararrel?

by Lefti on Sep 15, 2009 2:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn't say Randolph's struggles in New York were entirely his fault

But from a PR perspective, hiring him would have been a disaster. Regardless of who designed the tracks, he was driving a train that came completely off the rails.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Sep 15, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, fair enough

I guess I’m a little more willing to risk a PR disaster in hiring a manager. I’m not sure if that’s a good thing or a bad thing :-p.

Brewers Baseball and other assorted nonsense (mostly the assorted nonsense) at my blog, What's a Tararrel?

by Lefti on Sep 15, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dale Sveum not only should not be the manager but he should be shown the door. On his watch, an excellent offense from a year ago turned into a mediocre one. Two players are having exceptional years, the rest have regressed this year. Why is he not held accountable.

If you want someone who knows the organization inside and out, bring back Ned Yost. When they hired Ken Macha, he shouldn’t have been forced to hire retreads from the old staff.

On another point, Hardy is not an average shortstop. He is one of the best in all of baseball. He had a bad year. Get over it. I believe the Brewers should trade the shortstop (Hardy or Escobar) who brings the most in return. If that’s Escobar, so be it. Escobar is still just a prospect. If someone wants to pay big to gamble on his future, the Brewers would be foolish to pass on a chance to build a major league starting staff.

by tannerboyle on Sep 15, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Mediocre offense???

You do know the Brewers are scoring more runs per game than last year, right? (Solid 5th in the NL) They’re .3 runs per game better than league average vs .09 above league average last year. Team OPS is a bit higher as well. Sure, some players are having bad years but overall it is a better offense.

by kingcharlesxii on Sep 15, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about RISP?

I’m thinking it’s higher this season than last season too, but cannot confirm it.

by sjlee on Sep 15, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

RISP

I don’t really put too much faith in RISP stats but here they are:

RISP: 2009 is .776 OPS, 2008 is .742
RISP 2 outs: 2009 is .798 OPS, 2008 is .668

So yes, quite a bit better in both but neither is a huge sample size. Late and close is the only category I could find that the 2009 team is noticeably worse in and that’s only because the 2008 was incredibly good in that (.815 OPS vs .719 OPS).

by kingcharlesxii on Sep 15, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ack.

Ok, point by point:

As someone noted below, this year’s offense is actually scoring more runs than last year, and doing so without Rickie Weeks.

I don’t know who Macha was “forced” to hire, if anyone. Maybe the guys on the staff were recommended to him, maybe they weren’t. Unless you know something I don’t, in which case you’re welcome to enlighten me.

I said Hardy was “average at worst.” That implies he’s above average in all cases that aren’t “worst.”

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Sep 15, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait, what?

McGehee, Counsell and Fielder (at least in OBP) are all exceeding expectations, so that’s 3, not 2. Who’s regressed? Not Braun. Not Cameron, who’s doing more or less what’s he’s done for the last several years. Weeks hit well until he went down. Lopez has been productive in his place. Hart has been disappointing, but that started last year.

Hardy’s had a terrible year and Kendall is, well, Kendall at this point of his career. So you think Sveum should get run because his catcher is bad with a bat in his hands, as expected, and one of his regular 9 is having the worst year of his career?

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 15, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

His argument doesn’t hold much water.

by sjlee on Sep 16, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sveum

If the pitching had been better everyone would be talking about how Sveum was doing such a good job with the offense. Wins and losses always change the way things are viewed.

by Junked on Sep 15, 2009 3:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Stan Kyles

I’ve been to a number of baseball games in my life and never got a ball. I’ve come close once. That said, I went to the August 30 game this year, and after Manny Parra finished his bullpen session, Kyles threw me a ball. Thus I am willing to throw out all logic and analysis and say: keep the man.

Honestly, though, I think the decision is mostly about the manager, and then letting him fill in the staff (with some options presented, if desired). I don’t love any of the choices, yet am useless enough to not bother presenting alternatives.

On a side note, if people think McGehee has a good shot at ROY (and I’m not sure he does – Wells and Hanson come to mind), then I’m fine with him getting PT if the plan is to trade him. My guess is that they’re thinking about McGehee at 3B next year and doing something else with Gamel (AAA, trade, or OF). If it’s OF, they probably wouldn’t just throw him out there now.

by Capt Science on Sep 15, 2009 4:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ROY

McGehee has the stats to be ROY, but the one thing that’s not in his favor are his limited PAs.

According to this article…

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/brewers/59187122.html

“After sitting on the bench for the first six weeks and missing some time with an ailing knee, McGehee has played less than many of the top candidates. Still, entering play Sunday, he was first among NL rookies with 57 RBI, second with 15 home runs and tied for first with Coghlan with a .306 batting average.

McGehee was second to Jones with a .522 slugging percentage and fourth with a .367 on-base percentage. Beyond his rookie numbers, McGehee led all major leaguers with 17 RBI in September."

by sjlee on Sep 16, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

my issue

they’re all “internal.” Why not pick up someone from a staff like the Rays or some other team that’s turned raw talent into good performance (either this year or last year)?

by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 15, 2009 5:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm soured on external candidates

After a year of watching Ken Macha not know how hard Todd Coffey throws, that Bill Hall has never played left, etc.

I’m looking to swap out 2009’s “fresh eyes” for 2010’s organizational knowledge and familiarity with success.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Sep 15, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

okay...maybe you've got a point for the "top spot"

but how about the underlings? Can’t they be shown the ropes by their superiors that have experience with the personell?

by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 15, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hall

Macha played Hall in LF for one game. Seattle has started him there for 10 games.

I don’t think his handling of Hall is any reason to be fired.

by sjlee on Sep 16, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would love to see the Brewers hire Manny Acta as the manager next year. He obivously didn’t get great results in DC but I don’t really think you can blame him for that. He seems to me to be one of the smarter managers in baseball and is currently available.

by Trent Durrington on Sep 15, 2009 6:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I completely agree.

I love Acta.

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by Jack Moore on Sep 16, 2009 1:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Respected Chain of Command?

I really like the idea of keeping all the familiarity within the organization. At this point in their careers are these players really going to be making major changes? For the most part, they’ll tweak what’s familiar and I don’t see how a brand new guy is going to do any better than someone already in house.

What I don’t necessarily like is that with such an inexperienced coaching staff (at the major league, of course), I don’t know how everyone will respond to Sveum as the manager. They’re all professionals to be sure, but having so much history on one staff can be detrimental as well. When Macha was brought in, he didn’t owe nuthin to nobodah.

Let’s dream and pretend we could convince La Russa to run the Brewers.

by ecocd on Sep 15, 2009 6:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dream of La Russa?

No thanks.

"The reports are that he is getting better. The definition of better is nebulous."

by Kyle Lobner on Sep 15, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree with ecocd here

we need someone somewhat unconventional

I would prefer someone not so drunk though.

by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 15, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some of the greatest mind's in history were drunks

See Monty Python’s Philospher’s Song for a sample. It works the same for many great mathematicians. If only I’d started drinking earlier I might have been brilliant!

by ecocd on Sep 16, 2009 6:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My thoughts...

1.) I think it would be hilarious if the Brewers fired Macha tomorrow, made Sveum the interim manager and then didn’t retain him.

2.) I am not big on an organizational guy — JJ Hardy is sure to be traded, Hart may as well. Prince and Braun are established MLBers. We have no organizational pitching that is ready for 2010… I’d just as soon dip our pen into another font.

3.) I think someone other than Doug Melvin should hire our next manager.

4.) Dave Duncan seems interesting to me.

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by Fatter than Joey on Sep 16, 2009 9:10 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ive always wondered about Duncan too

Going back to his Oakland A’s days.

But I think he’s pretty content with what he does. Ive heard stories that he is pretty contemptible, even more so than LaRussa is, so he might not be the kind of guy you want as the face of your coaching staff.

Pretty rare that a pitching guy translates into being a good manager, much less a manager. Catchers make much better managers, or middle infielders.

by backtocali on Sep 16, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dave Duncan

Was a MLB catcher for a bunch of seasons.

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by Fatter than Joey on Sep 16, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean, really...

Shouldn’t we be looking at replacing Doug Melvin? I think that needs to be the first order of business.

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Sep 16, 2009 1:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, he's been gawd-awful. Just brutal. Worst in the game.

Wait, what are we blaming Melvin for right now? not signing the pitchers that weren’t available last offseason? not trading our top prospects (again) for a pipe-dream of maybe making the playoffs? Rickie weeks getting hurt? Ken Macha managing on tranquilizers? Prince Fielder ruining the budget by wearing a tarp to each game?

by Mykenk on Sep 16, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, for creating the Texas Rangers of Milwaukee

Draft and develop only position players. Sign all or nothing hitters. Didn’t work in Arlington, why do you and Doug think it works in Milwaukee?

Also, do you prefer to simply provide contrariness to specifically my opinions? Or do other people get this from you regularly too?

I don’t have a category for "washed-up guys who may or may not be dominant big-league closers sometime soon."

~Jeff Sackmann

by Charlie Marlow on Sep 16, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I totally agree with Mykenk

He is perhaps a tad bit extreme, but he makes a lot of convincing and well-argued points.

I was on the fence, but after reading that I am pretty sure the Stache needs to be Stowed.

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by Fatter than Joey on Sep 16, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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