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by Kyle Lobner on Sep 24, 2009 9:23 AM CDT
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Chris Narveson made quite a statement last night, shutting down a Cubs offense that had scored 13 runs in the first two innings of the previous two games. He also struck out ten Cub batters in his 5.2 innings of work, earning some praise from Seth McClung. Here are some notes on his achievements:
- Narveson became just the 15th pitcher in major league history (and the first Brewer) to strike out at least ten batters while throwing 70 pitches or less.
- He was the first Brewer rookie to record ten strikeouts in a game since Steve Woodard in 1998.
- He was the first lefthanded Brewer rookie to accomplish the feat since Angel Miranda in 1992.
Are you upset enough with Doug Melvin to call for his firing, but bobble-obsessed enough to want his bobblehead anyway? Then Fire Doug Melvin has a contest for you.
Mike Cameron is only a few weeks away from becoming a free agent, but what will the market look like for him? The Chicago Tribune is reporting that the Cubs might be interested in his services. Of course, he's also expressed willingness to "make a sacrifice" to return to Milwaukee. Circling the Bases ranked Cameron #21 among this off season's potential free agents.
The Brewers are down to four remaining home games, and will spend the weekend trying to keep the Phillies from clinching the NL East. Ken Macha said he won't stick around to watch the celebration, should the Phillies clinch this weekend.
If you're hoping to see Mat Gamel one last time this weekend, you'll probably need to go to all four games to have a chance. Gamel is considering playing in Puerto Rico this winter to get some of the ABs he's missed while Ken Macha has allowed him to rot on the bench.
Jason Kendall may not lead the league in HBP this season but his plunks are gritty, difficult ones: Plunk Everyone calculated the HBP difficulty of players who have been hit by ten pitches this season, and Kendall ranks second in that stat.
In the minors:
- The Brewers went 2-0-1 in their first three instructional league contests in Arizona. Adam McCalvy has the full roster, which includes most of this season's high draft picks and many of the top talents from Rookie and A-ball. (FanShot)
- Eric Arnett doesn't sound too excited about instructional league, but at least his "main man EV" is there with him.
- The Hardball Times named Brett Lawrie the top hitting prospect in the Midwest League this season, saying he has "the quickest wrists in the minor leagues, and some of the best raw power that the Midwest League has to offer."
- Jeremy Jeffress, who celebrated his 22nd birthday earlier this week (hopefully not with a bag of pot), is reportedly in tremendous spirits and looking forward to the 2010 season. He'll be eligible to return from suspension sometime in May, but would face a lifetime ban with one more positive test.
- Baseball Digest Daily moved the Brewers up two spots to #17, but also noted that they have baseball's toughest remaining schedule.
- MLB FanHouse moved the Brewers up two spots to #18.
On this day in 1999, former Brewer Bill Spiers was attacked by a fan at County Stadium in one of the uglier incidents in Brewer history. Spiers was able to remain in the game, and the attacker was charged with two counts of assault.
Happy birthday today to Chris George, who appeared in two games for the 1991 Brewers and turns 43.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some weird Muppet moments. (h/t Daily Drink)
Drink up.
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Narveson
Less than, equal to, or greater than
ability, effect, chances on making a difference with the Brewers next year
With Nick Neugebauer?
I think he has a much higher chance of making a difference with the Brewers next year than Nick Neugebauer.
by Mykenk on Sep 24, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I loved all of his Lethal Weapon movies.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
by roguejim on Sep 24, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Addendum
“I think every young guy should go play winter ball,” Brewers general manager Doug Melvin said, while formulating a complaint about how injuries suffered in winter ball affect some teams more than others because there’s no rule leveling the playing field for all teams.
You know me Al.
by TheJay on Sep 24, 2009 9:56 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
In honor of Jody Gerut's homer last night:
Jody Gerut since the All-Star Break: .312/.379/.538, with 5 homers and 18 driven in.
Tony Gwynn, Jr. since the All-Star Break: .241/.320/.281, with no homers and 10 driven in.
And thats
While still being relatively unlucky. His MIL babip is only .255, any way to pull that up since all star break?
Even with the very nice 2nd half, is he above replacement level?
I love the kid and would love to see him as a starter next year in either RF or CF, but not if he is merely replacement level. With his great year last year in SD I think he was till only a game and a half above.
It depends on the options, and how we'd use the money we could save by starting Gerut in the OF.
That’s the only way to evaluate using him as a starter. Looking at his value in a vacuum is a decent starting point, but you’ve gotta consider that players cannot be fully evaluated independently
You know, the whole>sum(parts) thing.
I want to be clear on everybody's sentiments
Does the collective “we” want Mike Cameron back next year?
Having troubles with wrapping my mind around Kirbir listening to T.I.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Sep 24, 2009 11:50 AM CDT reply actions
Depends on a few things
If we run out the same rotation in 2010 that we did in 2009 — I don’t see the point in keeping Cameron.
Taking shallowness to new depths -- FtJ's blog
by Fatter than Joey on Sep 24, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Not really a cop-out
I would gladly take him at the right cost. I’m curious to see what his demands are.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
So, nobody's gonna actually answer the question.
to hell with cost. Call the funds unlimited.
Having troubles with wrapping my mind around Kirbir listening to T.I.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Sep 24, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I like Cameron as a player...
If we shored up our pitching, and had a legit shot at contending in 2010 — I’d take him back in a second. I think Cameron can still contribute to a good team.
If we are going to run out a bunch of dudes with 6.00 ERAs we might as well put one of those roombas out in CF.
Taking shallowness to new depths -- FtJ's blog
by Fatter than Joey on Sep 24, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
>we might as well put one of those roombas out in CF
I think Dmitri Young is going to stay retired.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Sep 24, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I want Cam back....yes.
Absolutely.
Suppan, who has seen his ERA rise from 4.12 in his final year in St. Louis to 4.62 in 2007 and 4.96 last year, isn't an option in fantasy leagues - Rotoworld
I wonder if Crawford would sign knowing he had to play center.
I bet he would play there, but he might prefer to sign somewhere he can play left in that scenario.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
Do you think that it would really matter that much?
I get that CF is a more valued defensive position, but do you think it makes that big a difference in a players mind?
I really don't understand why Chavez is such a great option
He’s never hit and I guess he’s supposed to be an awesome defender, but a guy like that who has had hamstring issues and tore an ACL this season isn’t exactly tempting to me.
You know me Al.
You know this isn't what I meant
Having troubles with wrapping my mind around Kirbir listening to T.I.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Sep 24, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
No
Would prefer someone who is younger, cheaper, projectible who can hit leadoff.
Wish they had pulled the trigger on the Melky Cabrera deal when they had the chance.
Ahahahahahahaha!
Are you aware that “leadoff” is not a position?
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
by Jordan M on Sep 24, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tell that to Ken Macha
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Does anyone remember the skit they did on Saturday Night Live awhile ago where they had a game show where Pete Rose and George Will were contestants?
No, but one time at a Packer game and yelled at Monte Clark until he gave me a dirty look.
Is this non-sequitur ping pong?
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 24, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes.
I don’t answer questions regardless of cost, but unless he wants more than he got this year…
…yes.
Also, cheese.
by Jeff Sackmann on Sep 24, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
nope
unless it’s < $8 MM
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
That's the number htat arbitrarily came out of my ass
It’s also 80% of his current salary. I like Mike Cameron, but if he’s making more than that, he’s going to cost us SP. And that is more important than CF.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
exactly. Cam would be a nice addition to the 2010 team, but not anywhere near his current salary. I was thinking no more than 5 mil. that becomes a take it or leave it situation and if he bites, cool. If not we can replace him with what we have and stand pat or maybe better offensively and chase some pitching.
by Mr. McGehee on Sep 24, 2009 1:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Going to be tough
To get any starting pitching this offseason that could make a difference. The only decent FA guy out there that might cost upwards of $8mm is Lackey and his services will probably be bid out of Milwaukee, and the only trading chip the team has to get impact pitching is Fielder, and as I, and other people have thought, might be very difficult to get fair value for him in terms of pitching because of his contract.
That's why I have a feeling Escobar gets traded.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
If Escobar got traded?
After what went down with Hardy, yes, I’d be very surprised if Escobar got traded.
If you're looking for a stud pitcher, that might be the only way to get one.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
So you think
They might go for another all or nothing type of year?
If they move Escobar for a stud pitcher, thats a very risky move. Braun Fielder will produce, that means Cam is back too, and they are hoping for a bounce back year from Hardy and Hart, Weeks recovery. It also assumes a bounce back from Parra.
Even then, you package Escobar and maybe a guy like Gindl or Schafer, get your big new rent an ace. You need a very solid year from Gallard, and all of those pluses above.
Very risky to clear out the prospect cupboard again with only 2 years of arb left on Fielder, Weeks, Hardy, Hart. Biiiiiiig rebuild after that time comes.
More speculative than risky
There are about 6 big “if’s” in the situation listed above. If it fails, Melvin never gets another job in baseball above ticket salesman.
Id rather take my chances with the steady influx of prospects and continual rebuild, but also improving method of management, than the go for it all philosophy every 4 or 5 years with disappointing ones in between.
We all knew this year would be somewhat of a let down for the Brewers, I dont see the need for a big risky move to try for it all, at the expense of one of its best rising players.
Every GM is guaranteed an assistant GM job somewhere else in baseball after being fired
It’s a fact of baseball life.
You know me Al.
Yeah, I'm not saying I would advocate it
I just have a feeling that it’s going to happen. More realistically, I could see them packaging Gamel, and hoping McGehee pans out.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
I'm not sure Salome has much of any value on the trade market.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 24, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Do things come out of your ass non-arbitrarily?
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 24, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
i would assume his use of the toilet is not arbitrary
so…yes
by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 24, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
umm....................
I think we’re done here.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Miranda
His rookie 10 K game was actually in 1993.
by Infield Fly Rule on Sep 24, 2009 12:16 PM CDT reply actions
Kudos to TH for admitting to his JS mistake
Anti Kudos for calling Narveson’s father, Bruce. We figured out last night in the game thread that his father’s name is Narve.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Rather famously (over in the UK anyway)
The dad of ex-England footballers Gary and Phil Neville is called Neville Neville. I think the Man Utd fans used to have a song to the tune of Bowie’s “Rebel Rebel” about it…
"I hope your name is Rick"
Name Those Players
Player A: 462 ABs, .273 BA, .335 OBP, .416 SLG, .750 OPS, 12 HRs, 10 SBs
vs.
Player B: 506 ABs, .251 BA, .344 OBP, .447 SLG, .790 OPS, 21 HRs, 6 SBs
(Hint: Player C: 9.64 ERA, 2.02 WHIP, 42 IP, 1-6 W/L)
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Very good
Remember, Melky is making $1.4 million, but Wang is making $5 million in 2009. The Melkster has 3 years of arbitration left, and Wang has 2 years left.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Technically, yes
;)
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
I thought the trade was supposed to involve Kei Igawa
I’ve been reading the English translation of Sayonara, Zetsubou-sensei manga and there was a joke making fun of Kei Igawa’s hair in the 2nd volume. There was also a remark about how Dan Miceli destabilizes decent bullpens.
I hope that all 18+ volumes of this get translated because it’s hilarious. Oddly enough, the translation notes explained most of the baseball references except for the Miceli joke.
Aside from Kendall, that's a good looking lineup.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
How come no one has mentioned that Narveson looks like a deranged clown?
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
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NL Central Standings
| W | L | PCT | GB | STRK | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Cincinnati
|
78 | 55 | .586 | 0 | Won 4 |
|
St. Louis
|
69 | 62 | .526 | 8 | Lost 5 |
|
Houston
|
62 | 71 | .466 | 16 | Won 3 |
|
Milwaukee
|
62 | 71 | .466 | 16 | Lost 3 |
|
Chicago
|
57 | 77 | .425 | 21.5 | Won 1 |
|
Pittsburgh
|
44 | 89 | .330 | 34 | Lost 1 |
(updated 9.3.2010 at 9:13 AM CDT)
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