Free Agent Pitchers 2010
by snicklefits on Sep 29, 2009 9:46 PM CDT
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PrintA sad season spiraling to an end leaves me wondering what could have been. The most glaring need for 2010 is starting pitching (the same can be said for +/- 95% of Major League teams). Cot's Baseball Contracts lists the following SP's as likely free agents...
Starting Pitchers
Brandon Backe HOU
Miguel Batista SEA
Josh Beckett * BOS
Erik Bedard SEA (B)
Daniel Cabrera ARZ
Bartolo Colon CWS
Jose Contreras COL
Doug Davis ARZ (B)
Justin Duchscherer OAK (B)
Adam Eaton COL
Kelvim Escobar LAA
Jon Garland * LAD (B)
Tom Glavine ATL
Mike Hampton HOU
Rich Harden CHC (A)
Tim Hudson * ATL
Randy Johnson SF (B)
John Lackey LAA (A)
Cliff Lee * PHI (A)
Braden Looper * MIL (B)
Jason Marquis COL (B)
Kevin Millwood * TEX
Brett Myers PHI
Vicente Padilla * LAD (B)
Carl Pavano MIN
Brad Penny SF
Odalis Perez WAS
Andy Pettitte NYY (B)
Joel Pineiro STL (B)
Sidney Ponson KC
Jason Schmidt LAD
John Smoltz STL
Tim Wakefield BOS (B)
Jarrod Washburn DET
Brandon Webb * ARZ (B)
Todd Wellemeyer STL (B)
Randy Wolf (A)
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2001/05/2010-free-agents.html
There's some notable names out there (Beckett, Webb, Harden, Bedard) but who can we realistically expect the crew to go after? My gut tells me a name like Tim Hudson might appear in Brewer blue come January, but I'm interested to hear everyone's thoughts.
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Brandon Webb
I would be behind such a signing. AZ doesn’t look like they want to commit to him (or even pick up his option) so we could easily swoop in. Otherwise, give me a Sheets/Harden duo. They may not be healthy throughout the life of the contract but they will probably average a collective 300IP of very good pitching per year.
Chicks Dig The Long Ball.
Who cares what you thinks, its all about the GM's opinion
If I may paraphrase Doug Melvin’s comments from about 2 months ago. Its more valuable to have a pitcher go 6-8 innings a starts and miss 3/4 of the season than a pitcher that goes at most 5 innings a start every start. I know i am just paraphrasing but you get the point.
He also mentioned we need to fill in some pitchers via free agency because we won’t get any talent from the minors for the next 3 years. I take that as the crew is willing to sign some 3 yr deals. here comes Lakey hudson bedard harden or pinero.
Why didn't you note that the players with astericks after their names have options for 2010?
Beckett will not be a free agent. Webb will probably not be a free agent. The Braves
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Webb
It is really looking like Arizona is not going to pick up Webb’s option. MLBTradeRumors has been following it, and it seems as if he’ll be available.
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
Yeah, but
I agree with Tim Dierkes when he constantly says that it wouldn’t make sense for them to not pick up his option. I don’t see how it doesn’t happen. UNLESS, of course they know something about his injury/rehab that we don’t. In which case we wouldn’t want him.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Of that list
The only ones I would even think of picking up would be Lackey or Wolf. Wolf would provide a moderate upgrade and Lackey will be too expensive.
Fan Graphs just had a article about how the top pitchers were acquired, rarely its due to free agency. Just doesnt pay off most times. Draft or trade has to be the way to get pitching. Forget about signing Free Agents.
I see quite a few that would be upgrades over Suppan.
I’d like to see them pick up a middle of the rotation guy to push somebody out of the starting 5, and then either overpay for lackey or trade for someone at the top of the order.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
But
Suppan isnt going anywhere
Unless someone wants to trade bad salaries for replacement level players. If it werent for the time remaining, Vernon Wells might work, but why would they want a guy like Suppan?
Unless you trade Bush, but again, who is going to want a replacement level pitcher in a trade?
Harden and Bedard are risky, Marquis or Davis would be Suppan part 2, Wellemeyer or Penny are replacement level guys right now. Maybe Brett Myers.
Im still on board with a Hardy/McGehee/Hart trade to get a pitcher.
He can go to the bullpen
If a player gets hurt and Suppan is forced to become a starter, I’m fine with that. I think Washburn, Davis, or Duchsherer (is he playing in 2010?) would be better options than Suppan. Who cares if Harden and Bedard are risky? You have to take risks if you want to win in a lackluster FA market like this. What’s the worst that can happen if one of them takes pushes Suppan out of the rotation? They pitch really well for a little while, then they get hurt, and Suppan comes back into the rotation. You’re still probably coming out ahead of where you were. And the beauty of it is that their risk is probably going to lower their price.
Where would the Mariners be this year, without that stellar first half from Bedard? Where would the Brewers have been last year without that stellar first half from Sheets?
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
minus "takes"
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
As we learned at the deadline
The Brewers don’t have the horses to get a quality pitcher via trade. There is not a package short of Prince that would bring in what we need. Free Agency is the only way to go in our case. The big names all have injury issues (though Lackey is showing he’s past his), and it’s a risk that the Brewers have to take in their current position.
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
You dont think
A Hardy/Hart/McGehee package coud return the team a decent #3 or maybe even a #2 starter?
I guess I am content with a rebuild, as opposed to spending money on a guy who in the end doesnt really help make a playoff push.
I like Harden, but the last part of the year he looked pretty hittable. And Bedard is great when healthy, but hes rarely healthy. Even worse than Sheets ever was.
The problem with rebuilding is that it doesn't make sense at this point
Our window of competing is closing as Prince’s Free Agency comes closer and closer. The fact is that rebuilding implies that we have talent in the farm system to bring this team back to competing, and that light at the end of the tunnel just does not exist.
The Brewers are in a WIN NOW phase that necessitates taking risks on the FA market. Sure Hardy and McGehee could bring a #3 starter, but we are more than a #3 starter away from the brass ring.
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
This list has a whole lot of "No" on it
Having troubles with wrapping my mind around Kirbir listening to T.I.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Sep 30, 2009 12:08 PM CDT reply actions
No kidding
The only one I like is Lackey, and, as the only decent pitcher on the list, he’s going to cost a fortune.
What a trying season this has been. All of our starters have gotten on my nerves - even Gallardo. It’s hard to accumulate all those walks when you only pitch 5 innings at a time.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
knipshin fit
Erik Bedard SEA (B)
Justin Duchscherer OAK (B)
Rich Harden CHC (A)
Tim Hudson * ATL
John Lackey LAA (A)
Brett Myers PHI
Joel Pineiro STL (B)
Jarrod Washburn DET
Brandon Webb * ARZ (B)
Randy Wolf (A)
if they sign any guy not on this list I’ll throw one
So, let's say we sign an A and B free agent
Do we only have to give up a 2nd and 3rd round pick, given our draft position?
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
oh, i thought it was comp and 2nd round.
Sweet!
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Let's remove Joel Pineiro from that list
I’m really tired of signing pitchers who had success in St. Louis and then sucked once they got here.
"my goodness"
by BrewHaHeather on Oct 2, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
And Randy Wolf
Seriously. This was his first healthy season since 2003, and he WAY overachieved. Not to mention that he’s a Type A FA.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Wait
And Jarrod Washburn too. The only good that can come from signing Jarrod Washburn is that we wouldn’t have to endure the “Brewers should trade for Washburn” rumors every June. Oh, and his last name is a compound word, which is always fun. Maybe he’s a Charles Dickens character!
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Because he's in a contract year?
I doubt it. His opponents’ OPS has been steadily increasing since 2004. It was probably actually his worst in STL.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
I'd still take Wolf
He did way overachieve, but he’s better than most other FAs out there. And its not like we have to give up our first round pick if we sign him (hooray for the only benefit of a losing season!).
"my goodness"
by BrewHaHeather on Oct 4, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
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