Wednesday's Frosty Mug
Some things to read while solving for Z.
It's projection season, and Tom Tango unveiled his Marcel projections for 2010 yesterday. I have the Brewer projections here. Follow the link to take a look for yourself, but the projections seem to look favorably upon Rickie Weeks, Corey Hart and Randy Wolf, and not so favorably on Gregg Zaun, Carlos Gomez and Manny Parra.
You know it's a slow news day when we're counting down to a meeting with a guy who has pitched six major league games since 2006. With that said, the Brewers are scheduled to meet with Mark Mulder and his agent on Thursday to see if they can work out a deal to bring Mulder to Maryvale on a minor league contract.
That might not be the only Brewer announcement this week: Tyler Barnes says the Brewers are getting ready to announce a new induction into the Brewer Walk of Fame.
In the minors:
- The Wisconsin Timber Rattlers are looking for host families for players and game day staff for the 2010 season. Mrs. Snow and I are discussing the merits of becoming a host family: Anyone done it before and care to share their thoughts on the experience?
- Elsewhere in Timber Rattler news, the Salisbury (NC) Post has a story on the offseason and rehab of reliever Garrett Sherrill, who missed most of the season recovering from a partial tear of his UCL. (h/t Rattler Radio)
- The Nashville Sounds will have a new radio flagship and play-by-play announcer next season: click here to learn more about them.
- As of this writing, Jake Odorizzi leads Angel Salome by nine votes in the race for the seventh spot in our BCB Community Prospect Rankings. You have until 4 pm today to cast your vote.
I've been doing my best to keep you updated on the progress of Brewers in the winter leagues via our Winter League Updates, but if you've fallen behind, Baseball Brew has a quick overview.
Around baseball:
Braves: Designated outfielder Brandon Jones for assignment.
Indians: Signed Mark Grudzielanek to a minor league deal.
Pirates: Signed pitcher Brian Bass, catcher Luke Carlin and outfielder Bryan Myrow to minor league deals.
White Sox: Re-signed catcher Ramon Castro to a one year deal worth $1 million.
Meanwhile, the Marlins may be looking to make a sudden splash in the free agent pool: They announced a deal with MLB and the MLBPA to increase payroll. The Marlins aren't admitting any wrongdoing, but it's long been suspected that they were spending significantly less in payroll than they received via luxury tax and revenue sharing.
Elsewhere in free agency, we have new details on the deal Brett Myers signed with the Astros: It will pay him just $3.1 million for 2010, but includes a club option for 2011 at $8 million, with a $2 million buyout.
One former Brewer farmhand is keeping the dream alive in independent ball: Former third round pick Josh Wahpehpah has signed to pitch in the bullpen for the Kansas City T-Bones of the Northern League. He posted a 5.18 ERA in 66 innings for Huntsville in 2009.
On this day in 2005, the owners voted unanimously to approve Mark Attanasio's purchase of the team. Decades from now, I think we'll be looking back at that moment as one of the franchise's greatest turning points.
Four years later, on this day in 2009 the Brewers officially signed Trevor Hoffman. Hoffman's tenure in Milwaukee has raised questions about overspending on relief pitching and committing to 40-plus players, but Hoffman posted a 1.83 ERA and 37 saves last season, so it's hard to argue with his results.
Happy birthday today to:
- 1985-1988 Brewer Billy Jo Robidoux, who turns 46.
- Elmer Dessens, who appeared in 12 games for the 2007 Brewers and turns 39.
- 2005-2007 Brewer Jose Capellan, who turns 29.
- 2009 Huntsville Star and Nashville Sound Juan Sandoval, who also turns 29.
- 2009 Wisconsin Timber Rattler Nick Tyson, who turns 22.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you've always wanted to see Randy Wolf and LaTroy Hawkins in street clothes.
Drink up.
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Mulder
The ongoing saga with him feels like the dichotomy paradox. Everyone knows they’ll sign a deal but it always seems like the latest news is that the parties are halfway to the deal.
For the most part
I’ve been ignoring the Mulder saga - for God’s sake, he hasn’t pitched in the majors in years. However, after reading Peterson’s comments - arm is sound, Mulder is in tremendous shape, etc. etc. - it’s hard to not to think about a rotation headed by Gallardo, Wolf, and Mulder.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Solving for Z
It is the Square root of Volume devided by Pi times A. This is the only thing I’ve read of the mug so far. More comments coming.
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
Positive square root.
I realize that’s more or less implied, but let’s be specific here.
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imaginary pizza is not quite as good
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
by tcyoung on Jan 13, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
My family has hosted 5 exchange students
Hosting a minor league ball player is probably completely different, but its obviously a great experience otherwise we wouldn’t have done it five times.
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
Kyle
On this note with the issue of hosting a MiLB player for the season…
My advice, although I have not done it, is that its probably too soon in your marriage to take on a big responsibility like that. If I remember correctly, you just got married last summer, right? Its a pretty big thing to throw out there early in a marriage to possibly cause stress.
as someone also just married
I agree with this statement
by theBrouhaha on Jan 13, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
It's true that I've only been married for seven months now
But we’ve lived together since September of 2004, so our situation is hardly new.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
Two points I agree with but am getting tired of hearing...
Gamel’s riding the pine has stunted his development…yes, you want your prospects getting consistent AB’s and time in the field. But now that his struggles have continued from AAA into the winter VZL.(.211), Mat has to man up. Presumably he starts the season at AAA and turns it around. If he turns out to be the next Andy Martre, I’m not willing to place all the blame on the FO.
Overspending on a closer: agree with that too, but as KL notes, Trevor has produced and he’s been signed to one year deals. Frankie Cordero, now THAT’S overspending on a closer.
Not mutually exclusive
Yes Hoffman did produce last year, but he was still probably overpaid probably to the tune of about $1 to $2 million.
Even if you put up great numbers, there isnt a ton of value add for a closer or guy who comes in for one inning a third of the games. To pay them like someone who is an every day player (even as a slightly below average every day player) is not being smart with your money. Add to it that for 2 straight years he has had 0 “difficult saves”…youre paying him a premium so that they can play Hells Bells on the speakers.
Hells bells is worth 2 million a season
Having the most exciting 9th inning opening is baseball is probably easily worth that cost in marketing alone
by theBrouhaha on Jan 13, 2010 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think Gamel's lack of performance in the VWL is at all notable.
He showed up late in the season (after Thanksgiving), so it’s probably safe to assume he’d need at least a week or two of consistent ABs to catch up. He never got them. He only played in 11 games over the course of a month, and was presumably left off the playoff roster.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
Right...it's not projectable
…and I’m betting on him bouncing back, but just saying if he does hit .240 in Nashville next season with a K every third PA let’s stop blaming mgmt.
Myers deal
That’s a huge buyout for a contract that pays him $3.1MM this year.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Backloading
It’s an easy way to defer $2 million until next year and if he’s great, they have him at a reasonable price. Not a bad signing and kind of creative.
by kingcharlesxii on Jan 13, 2010 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
can we have
one frosty mug in jan where it doesn’t start out with
“you know you have a slow news day when…”
We had one. Yesterday.
It started with
Far and away the hardest days to write the Mug are the days when there’s one major national story out there (especially when it’s steroids), and a collection of hundreds of blogs and sites I’ve gathered specifically to provide diverse points of view on baseball all stop what they’re doing so they can become the 300th voice to blather about it.
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Looking back
I think Monday’s Mug was a pretty good sized one, and I think yesterday’s wasn’t terrible, given what I had to work with.
I’m doing my best to find as much relevance as I can.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
Marlins
I joined the discussion on FishStripes about the Players Union forcing the Marlins hand, and I was surprised by how many Marlins fans are upset about this. I understand that they feel as though they are being attacked, but seriously, they’ve been pocketing money for years. Now they’re payroll is going to increase, and they’re upset?
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Kind of along the lines of a discussion a few weeks ago
What they are doing works. If you are a “fan” of the Marlins, why would you want your team to increase its liabilities when the current rate at which they produce is working pretty well.
I wonder if any of this pocketing going ont here has something to do with the new stadium?
It does. Read the thread, there's a few links to quotes about using the money for their new stadium
That simply isn’t fair to the rest of the league who had to find other ways to pay for a new stadium.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
my Marlins fan friends aren't upset
The team is doing well but there’s the constant sense (as I joked around yesterday) that Loria kicks almost all the players off the team when they hit arb. The reason the Pirates and the Rays aren’t getting looked at is because their moves are seen less as saving costs at all costs.
plenty of them are actually pretty happy.
But I was just surprised that there were a bunch of people who were upset about it. By no means am I trying to group all Marlins fans into that group.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Follow the link to take a look for yourself, but the projections seem to look favorably upon Rickie Weeks, Corey Hart and Randy Wolf, and not so favorably on Gregg Zaun, Carlos Gomez and Manny Parra.
This doesn’t really mean anything. Parra had a bad ERA last year and a pretty decent one the year before. Take the average with an emphasis on the recent year, regress, and that’s your projection. Same thing for Zaun and Gomez. Marcel is not capable of projecting an outbreak improvement for an above-average player.
It’s really, really misleading to say it this way. We’re best off taking the Marcels for what they’re worth and not reading into them. It’s a baseline for projection systems. Analyze CHONE or ZiPS if we’re going to do this.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
You have the keys to the front page.
Feel free to analyze whatever you like. :-)
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
Absolutely
and if I didn’t have work and a 4 page paper on a book I didn’t read due tomorrow I would definitely write a post. I just want to make sure people don’t think “Marcel thinks Parra is going to have a crappy year”. Marcel doesn’t know any better, and its creator fully acknowledges that.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
I was a huge Billy Jo fan
Looking at his stats, I can’t imagine why. He must have had a cool baseball card or something.
dude the name rhymes
that’s all the excuse you’ll ever need.
by Capt Science on Jan 13, 2010 7:15 PM CST up reply actions
What's more, it rhymes in several places
Bob Betts did a mighty fine “Billyyyyyy Jooooooooooe Rooooooooobidooooooux.”
You've got a couple screws missin' up in your toolbox, if you think that you'll stop this man from hittin' moonshots.
Just reminds me of the Simpons
Joey Joe-Joe Junior Shabadoo
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Elmer Dessens
Won the last game played at County Stadium. Alas, he wasn’t pitching for Milwaukee at the time.






























