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The Weekend Mug

Here's hoping the first weekend of 2010 is going well for everyone. Unfortunately it probably didn't go very well for anyone who had to look at this sportscard of a certain new Brewer's wife.

Writers are still working their way through 2009 and the last decade:

  • Adam McCalvy's month-by-month recap on the official site has all the links to the important brewers.com articles of the year.
  • Last year at this time the Brewers hot stove talk was about Trevor Hoffman.
  • Seth McClung responds to Tom Haudricourt's 2009 lowlights blog, stating that the lowlights should have gone back to 2008-10-30. Independent research (mine) shows that this was the date Ken Macha was hired.
  • Joe Posnanski looks back at the decade of depressing Royals performance. Look on this and think that despite the difficulties of the Brewers from 2000-09, things could be far worse for the team and the fans.

With that said, don't forget to remember to vote for the last few spots in the BCB All-Decade Team. Vote for manager before 1600 (that's 4PM; I'm too used to 24-hour time) on 2010-01-03 and then go vote for the sixth bullpen slot.

New year, new outlook: Matt Snyder of FanHouse has New Year's resolutions for all 30 MLB clubs. According to him, Manny Parra needs to step up for 2010. McCalvy agrees with him in his 10 questions for 2010.

Dan Turkenkopf at Beyond the Box Score introduces a new metric for evaluating relief pitchers and their success rates. Trevor Hoffman did very well according to this in 2009. Jesus Colome, not surprisingly, did not.

Small minors offerings:

  • Bernie's Crew has some information about Brewers minor league free agent signings Chris Waters and Anderson Machado.
  • John Sickels of Minor League Ball is looking for input on the Brewers organization for his upcoming book.

This being a holiday weekend, there haven't been any transactions of note around baseball. There's plenty of talk about this winter's previous transactions, however. MLB Trade Rumors points out in a discussion of multi-year free agency signings that the Brewers are one of only five teams to guarantee more than $20 million to a player this winter. In unsigned FA commentary, Jeff Passan lists 10 free agents to watch because their signings could indicate a lot about the FA market in the 2009-10 offseason. Lesser-known FA reliever Kiko Calero isn't signed yet either and Satchel Price at Beyond the Box Score is wondering why.

This weekend in Brewer birthdays:

  • Current Brewer (despite our complaints) Jeff Suppan is 35 today.
  • Well-traveled 2003 Brewer Royce Clayton turns 40. He retired in 2007.
  • Another 2003 Brewer of far less service time, Mike Crudale, is 33. He was last seen playing in Italy in 2009.
  • 1972 spot starter Archie Reynolds is 64.

It's been a quiet weekend here, so that's all unless you want to read about Japanese old-timers' games that I hope Doug Melvin isn't scouting. The Crew already has a 42-year-old who throws 83mph.

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I was wondering

what Son of Clung was referring to. I’m starting to think he’s not a fan of Macha.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jan 3, 2010 3:16 AM CST reply actions  

McClung also -- not of fan of Deputy Braun's shirts....
read the top lowlights of 09 on js. I have2admit I didnt wear a remetee shirt after July 5 No hard feelings but his shirts just wernt the same to me anymore. And 2 bad oct 30 08 didn’t count on the 09 list!

I suppose it’s rough waiting for a job offer…

Taking shallowness to new depths -- FtJ's blog

by Fatter than Joey on Jan 3, 2010 7:55 AM CST reply actions  

That comment suggests he wore the shirts, though

I think he was not a fan of Braun trashing the pitching staff on July 5.

by TheJay on Jan 3, 2010 8:13 AM CST up reply actions  

I guess sometimes the truth hurts.

But I can understand his reaction. If Big Seth was wearing those awful shirts to support Braun, he probably had a right to expect that Braun would support his teammates when they did something awful too.

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jan 3, 2010 8:34 AM CST up reply actions  

I suppose

It seems clear to me that McClung no longer wears the shirts.

IIRC, when Braun made these comments, they had been beaten by the Cubs 3 times, and Braun said something like, “They pitched better than us” and also “they hit better than us”. I certainly understand how the rotation could have felt singled out, but Braun wasn’t saying anything that wasn’t being said and resaid 100s of times in the papers, blogs or radio.

I suppose that Braun could have been a little more smooth with his comments, but someone from the organization needed to show a sense of urgency — and then about a month later DM makes some pretty bold moves firing Castro, and shitcanning Hall and Hardy.

I understand that Seth got his feathers ruffled — but the pitching was honestly pretty poor at that point. People needed to step up their games.

Taking shallowness to new depths -- FtJ's blog

by Fatter than Joey on Jan 3, 2010 8:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Geez

As much as I am a fan of Son of Clung, NUT UP. Perhaps you should’ve approached Braun and you can lay your feelings on the table. Settle it instead of making it public months later.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jan 3, 2010 9:35 AM CST up reply actions  

This was my reaction as well.

Should be water long under the bridge at this point — I don’t think Braun was trying to be a bad guy, just trying to be competitive.

Taking shallowness to new depths -- FtJ's blog

by Fatter than Joey on Jan 3, 2010 9:51 AM CST up reply actions  

the problem is that the water can’t go under the bridge because he already burned it, collapsed the embankments, and scattered caltrops on the ruins of the road.

as much as I appreciate honesty, when one is without contract, this is the time for shhhhh.

by morineko on Jan 3, 2010 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly.

Comments like that aren’t exactly going to get you a call from the team down the road when they need you (see Vargas).

by sjlee on Jan 4, 2010 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

the Brewers are fond of Round 2

Vargas isn’t the only guy they’ve brought back; Weathers in 2009, Gagne with a minor league contract (even if it didn’t pan out) in ‘09, and Counsell and Ray King in 2007…note none of these five really complained about their time with Milwaukee. I don’t remember Vargas saying anything negative when he was let go in 2008. (And that was so they could keep McClung on the roster. Hmmm.)

by morineko on Jan 4, 2010 10:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, Vargas wasn't quoted much
“I thought that when they signed me, they needed me here, so I’m kind of surprised a little bit,” said Vargas, who was 3-1 with a 3.86 ERA in five spring outings. "And the way I’ve been pitching, I’ve been (as good) as any starter here, maybe except one or two.

“I understand, they want to keep Carlos and Parra in the starting rotation. And Yovani will come back soon, so someone (was out). I know I can start at some point in the major leagues for some other team.”

link

by TheJay on Jan 4, 2010 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess I thought it was supposed to be a joke...

… I don’t doubt the comment from Braun rankled, but maybe we’re taking McClung’s tweet a little too seriously.

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jan 3, 2010 9:56 AM CST up reply actions  

McClung is not respecting authority

Braun has been deputized after all.

Taking shallowness to new depths -- FtJ's blog

by Fatter than Joey on Jan 3, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Possibly...

but then again, there’s really nothing to indicate that it is a joke in the Tweet.

by sjlee on Jan 4, 2010 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Ask not for whom Son of Clung tolls

Son of Clung tolls for thee!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jan 4, 2010 1:42 AM CST up reply actions  

he thinks this is all srs bzns. there’s a reason I didn’t editorialize too much in the actual Mug, and focused on what I thought was the really interesting part—the blaming of the manager for sinking the 2009 season. It’s not like we here didn’t already argue about Braun back in July. (admittedly the highlight of the thread was the Pokemon joke)

also, it’s obvious he still reads here, so I’m tempted to throw in some more unsolicited advice for him, but really, he should be getting this from the people around him, not some random fangirl in the upper Midwest.

by morineko on Jan 4, 2010 9:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Huh

I am surprised Japan has had only 1 four decade player — MLB has had about 20, and a good portion of them were rather average players.

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by Fatter than Joey on Jan 3, 2010 8:51 AM CST reply actions  

poor misty

that’s just awful…

here’s a much better picture

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jan 3, 2010 9:32 AM CST reply actions  

I forgot to mention

that link is kinda NSFW

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jan 3, 2010 9:38 AM CST up reply actions  

and by W

I mean wife

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jan 3, 2010 9:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Meh.

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jan 3, 2010 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

MEH = Misty's Excellent Hinder

Maybe that’s what he meant

Taking shallowness to new depths -- FtJ's blog

by Fatter than Joey on Jan 3, 2010 11:13 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

She's still mannish

Now where’s Jordan with that picture?

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jan 3, 2010 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

That's what happens when you lust after athletes.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jan 3, 2010 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I honestly can't think of a female athlete off the top of my head that I think is hot.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jan 3, 2010 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

jennie finch?

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jan 3, 2010 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Nope

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jan 3, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Not attractive

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jan 3, 2010 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm going to have to go with Maria Sharapova.

Applying Simpsons and Star Wars quotes to Brewers discussions since 2009.

by Yar Nivek on Jan 3, 2010 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah, good one!

See, I just couldn’t come up with anyone off the top of my head. I’ll agree, Maria’s hot.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jan 3, 2010 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

^drunk

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jan 4, 2010 7:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Gymnasts

once they are 18 y/o of course

by Saberilliterate on Jan 3, 2010 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Unless you're not 18

Comes in handy once in a while

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Jan 3, 2010 5:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Hate to break it to you.

But just because you aren’t 18 doesn’t make them legal.

by NoahJ on Jan 3, 2010 11:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I don’t think it’s illegal to think anyone’s hot… wrong in some cases, but not illegal.

by sjlee on Jan 4, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Right

I think the state of Wisconsin threw a guy in jail for sexual assault for having sex with a 14-year-old when he was 16.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jan 4, 2010 1:51 AM CST up reply actions  

although, once they're 18, they look like they've finally turned 13

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jan 3, 2010 7:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry...

I don’t care if she’s 16 (I think 17 now)…Shawn Johnson has incredible legs:

by bluejazz04 on Jan 4, 2010 1:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Ah there it is

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jan 3, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

This picture is a good example

Did you ever notice that with many women, if you look solely at their faces for a few seconds, you find that yeah, they could be guys trying to pass themselves off as women?

Like in the picture above that Oscar is pointing to: at first blush, you might think, “Oh, she’s pretty.” But if you look at her face for a few seconds, and someone says “dude, that’s Oswald from The Drew Carey Show in drag,” you start to think, “you know,, that COULD be Oswald in drag.”

What’s worse, once you see Oswald, you can never NOT see Oswald.

Fortunately, this isn’t the case for all women. I can’t see a guy-in-drag in the above picture of Jennie Finch, or in Maria Sharapova. Still…it’s far too common.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jan 4, 2010 1:38 AM CST up reply actions  

I wouldn't say "many women"...

but yes, I do think there are some women who are attractive at first glance, but after prolonged viewing, are seen mannish… like Swank.

by sjlee on Jan 4, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

are we going to have this debate every time Misty May comes up?

Let’s just settle this. Great from the back, debatable from the front.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jan 4, 2010 7:00 AM CST up reply actions  

I guess

if that’s what floats your boat.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jan 4, 2010 7:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

She doesn’t do that much for me. Not saying she’s ugly, but I don’t really consider her “hot”.

by sjlee on Jan 4, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

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