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by Kyle Lobner on Jan 20, 2010 9:35 AM CST
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Some things to read while wondering where the potato went.
Two more Brewers are under contract for next season, as Rickie Weeks and Carlos Gomez came to terms with the team yesterday, avoiding arbitration (FanShot). Weeks will earn $2.75 million in 2010, while Gomez will take home $1.1 million in his first arbitration-eligible season.
I'm a little surprised to see Weeks didn't get more. Certainly, his injury history and somewhat turbulent production over the years make him a risky bet at times, but he was worth 1.2 WAR according to Sean Smith in just 162 PAs last season. Even if he had cooled off and played the rest of 2009 at his career averages, he would have been a 3.5-4 WAR player.
Gomez, on the other hand, got something similar to what most of us expected. Whether or not he'll be worth it is anyone's guess.
Meanwhile, the four remaining unsigned arbitration eligible Brewers exchanged proposals with the team yesterday:
| Player | Team Offer | Player Request | Difference |
| Todd Coffey | $1.7 million | $2.45 million | $750,000 |
| Corey Hart | $4.15 million | $4.8 million | $650,000 |
| Dave Bush | $4.125 million | $4.45 million | $320,000 |
| Carlos Villanueva | $800,000 | $1.075 million | $275,000 |
Here are various reactions to arbitration developments from around the web:
- Dave Pinto of Baseball Musings thinks the Brewers are close enough to be able to work out a deal with all four remaining cases.
- Jaymes Langrehr of Brewers Bar credits Doug Melvin for being very close in his estimated arbitration costs.
- The Former Hackers want to know how Corey Hart can demand a raise in the face of declining numbers.
- Ray Flowers says what we've all been saying for years: "If Rickie Weeks could just stay healthy and put it all together..."
Meanwhile, we have another story about how there's no story regarding Mark Mulder. Tom Haudricourt says the Brewers are still interested in his services, but "he's a long way from throwing in games." Apparently we're also a long way from being done with this one.
Here's an announcement we will have today: Tyler Barnes says the Brewers are preparing to unveil plans to celebrate the Brewers' 40th anniversary season. I counted twice to make sure I wasn't missing something here - wasn't 2009 the Brewers' 40th season in Milwaukee?
Maybe that inability to count is part of the reason Joshua Fisher of The Hardball Times ranked Brewer fans as the 23rd happiest in baseball.
Here's something to be happy about, though: MLB Network is covering the Brewers as part of their "Front Burner" series tonight, and they're looking for your questions.
In the minors:
- For the second straight season, the Timber Rattlers will play a home game at Miller Park. This year, they're hosting the Cedar Rapids Kernels (Angels) on May 7.
- Speaking of the Timber Rattlers, 2009 Rattler and BCB Community Prospect #13 Cody Scarpetta is the latest subject in their Interrogation Room.
- And, speaking of prospect rankings, you have until 4 pm today to cast your vote for Prospect #14. As of this writing, Mark Rogers leads Logan Schafer by 16 votes.
Around baseball:
Angels: Avoided arbitration with Howie Kendrick ($1.75 million), Jered Weaver ($4.3 million), Mike Napoli ($3.6 million) and Reggie Willits ($625k).
Astros: Avoided arbitration with Michael Bourn ($2.4 million), Matt Lindstrom ($1.65 million) and Humberto Quintero ($750k).
Athletics: Avoided arbitration with Kevin Kouzmanoff ($3.1 million) and Rajai Davis ($1.35 million).
Blue Jays: Avoided arbitration with Jason Frasor ($2.65 million), Brian Tallet ($2 million), Jeremy Accardo ($1.08 million) and Casey Janssen ($700k), and signed OF Jeremy Reed and pitcher Steven Register to minor league deals.
Braves: Avoided arbitration with reliever Peter Moylan, who will earn $1.15 million in 2010.
Cubs: Avoided arbitration with infielders Jeff Baker ($975k) and Mike Fontenot ($1 million), catcher Koyie Hill ($700k), reliever Angel Guzman ($825k), and Tom Gorzelanny ($800k).
Diamondbacks: Avoided arbitration with Stephen Drew, who will earn $3.4 million in 2010.
Dodgers: Avoided arbitration with Russell Martin ($5.05 million), George Sherrill ($4.5 million), James Loney ($3.1 million) and Hong-Chih Kuo ($950k).
Giants: Re-signed Bengie Molina to a one year deal worth $4.5 million.
Indians: Avoided arbitration with reliever Rafael Perez, who will earn $750k in 2010.
Mariners: Avoided arbitration with pitchers David Aardsma ($2.75 million) and Mark Lowe ($1.15 million.
Marlins: Avoided arbitration with Jorge Cantu ($6 million) and reliever Leo Nunez ($2 million).
Mets: Avoided arbitration with Jeff Francoeur ($5 million), Pedro Feliciano ($2.9 million) and Sean Green ($975k).
Nationals: Avoided arbitration with Josh Willingham ($4.6 million), Jason Bergmann ($750,000), Wil Nieves (unknown) and Jesus Flores (unknown).
Orioles: Avoided arbitration with Luke Scott, who will earn $4.05 million in 2010.
Phillies: Avoided arbitration with Chad Durbin, who will earn $2.15 million in 2010.
Pirates: Avoided arbitration with Zach Duke ($4.3 million), claimed outfielder Brandon Jones off waivers from the Braves and designated reliever Steven Register for assignment.
Rangers: Avoided arbitration with Josh Hamilton ($3.25 million) and reliever Chris Ray ($975k).
Rays: Avoided arbitration with Matt Garza ($3.35 million), J.P. Howell ($1.8 million) and Jason Bartlett ($4 million).
Rockies: Avoided arbitration with Huston Street (3 years, $22.5 million) and Rafael Betancourt (2 years, $7.55 million), and signed Paul Lo Duca to a minor league deal.
Royals: Avoided arbitration with Alex Gordon ($1.15 million) and Robinson Tejeda ($950k).
Tigers: Avoided arbitration with relievers Bobby Seay ($2.475 million) and Zach Miner ($950k) and catcher Gerald Laird ($3.95 million).
Twins: Avoided arbitration with Jesse Crain ($2 million), Matt Guerrier ($3.15 million), J.J. Hardy ($5.1 million), Brendan Harris ($1.45 million), Francisco Liriano ($1.6 million), Pat Neshek ($625k), Carl Pavano ($7 million) and Delmon Young ($2.5 million).
White Sox: Avoided arbitration with John Danks, who will earn $3.45 million in 2010.
One arbitration case wasn't settled yesterday, but it might not be as interesting as previously expected. Some had speculated Tim Lincecum might request as much as $23 million from the Giants, but he asked for $13 million instead. The Giants countered with an $8 million offer, which seems incredibly low for arguably the best pitcher in baseball.
Being able to build a team with cost controlled and arbitration players is all part of developing from within. Sky Andrecheck of The Baseball Analysts has possibly the best piece I've ever read on the value of a good farm system. He projects the Rangers to net about 31 extra wins over the next eight seasons by virtue of having baseball's best farm system, and the Astros to drop about 36 games for having baseball's worst.
Because of Big League Stew's "Everything you always wanted to know about" series, I've learned an awful lot about a fair number of advanced stats. Before this Saber 101 post at Bless You Boys, though, I didn't know that wOBA's name originated on Sesame Street.
Target Field may be a cold place to watch a baseball game in April, but at least the food will be good. Big League Stew has a look at one of the signature food offerings: Walleye on a stick.
On this day in 1996, the Brewers agreed to terms on a two year, $7 million deal with pitcher Ben McDonald. McDonald, a former #1 overall pick, pitched the last two seasons of his major league career as a Brewer, going 20-17 with a 3.96 ERA.
Happy birthday today to 2005 Brewer Julio Santana, who turns 37.
If you enjoyed this morning's Mug but felt like it was lacking a cause for motion sickness, then clearly First Person Tetris is your next step.
Drink up.
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Today
1251 words, 51 links (not counting internals).
Not bad, for a Wednesday in January.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
And 56 comments before 11
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Yeah,
I just sent a note to support. Appears to be working now.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
2010 is the 40th anniversary of the brewers first season in milwaukee.
It’s also the brewers 41st season in Milwaukee. That’s the way it works.
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Pretty much.
Like 1970 was the 1st season in Milwaukee, and 1971 was the first anniversary of the first season in Milwaukee.
It’s fun to use wordplay to come up with additional years in which you can sell nonsensical merchandise.
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Brewers website sort of clarifies this...
“The 2010 season is actually the 42nd in franchise history and the 41st season of Brewers baseball. But it marks the 40th anniversary of the team’s April 1970 move from Seattle to Milwaukee.”
Sort of
The key word is anniversary, which relates it to calendar years rather than a count of seasons.
Speaking of Baseball Musings, there was a mini-debate there a few months ago that guys who play from 1989-2010 shouldn’t be counted as four-decade players since the new decade doesn’t really start until 2011.
Really?
So Decades go from 01-10, 11-20, etc?
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Supposedly
No year zero, so the first ten years were 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.
I just look at the third digit of the year, myself.
Thoughts
Re: Weeks’ deal, I’m not surprised. He was hurt – that’s how arbitration, etc., works. I don’t think a team would pay him as a 3.5-4 WAR player as a free agent either.
Similarly, the Giants offering Lincecum $8 million probably has less to do with what they think he’s worth than trying to limit first-year raises through arbitration. Offering him what they think he’s worth defeats the purpose of arbitration (from the team perspective), which is to limit salaries until free agency. Also remember it’s not just him affected by his deal, it’s every first year arbitration pitcher next year.
The Former Hackers want to know how Corey Hart can demand a raise in the face of declining numbers.
Kevin Mench got a raise after his awful 2006 season.
I don’t think you had enough transactions today. Make up some more.
Yeah, the transactions got a little out of hand.
On the plus side, though, the massive overflow forced me to find a new way to manage transaction links, which might make the Mug a little quicker in the future.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
Mench's raise is a symptom of a larger problem, not a justification.
In both cases, a guy put up poor numbers, then requested more money.
At best, it’s players accepting that “this is how the system works” and dealing with some backlash over demanding more money for less performance.
At worst, though, it’s players being woefully out of touch with reality, thinking their mediocre-at-best performances are worth what they’re asking to be paid for them.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
by Kyle Lobner on Jan 20, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions
I’m really not surprised that players (and their agents, remember) begin with a high offer. It’s not unlike the offer you get from a car dealership. You know it can come down with negotiation, and the dealership would prefer it not dip too low. In other words, the players and their agents will offer the price that they think will be high enough to get what they want after negotiation.
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by Bettman's Nightmare on Jan 20, 2010 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
To a degree.
If Hart (or player) goes too high, the team can go into the hearing with a slamdunk.
I think what is an interesting trend, is that the Arby process is guaranteeing guys like Hardy, Hart, Francoeur, a more than fair salary, while the FA is a lot less forgiving.
Where the Brewers win in the Arby process, is not with guys like Hart and Hardy, but having leverage to keep guys like Prince and Braun in the fold. Overall, the net positive gained by locking down Braun, and keeping Prince in Milw., is worth the few hundred thousands, you pay to stiffs like Hart and Hardy.
As for Hart demanding a raise — His argument probably begins and ends with the fact he started almost all of the games for the Brewers in 2009 (when he wasn’t on DL). All he has to say is, if I was so bad, Why did I start 95% of the games I was eligible to start?
I do think though, teams will start to non-tender Arby guys more and more.
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by Fatter than Joey on Jan 20, 2010 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
Just like if a Dealer starts out too high, the customer will walk out
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Russell Martin got a $1.1 mil raise after a 680 OPS season
When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved
by Getting Yosted on Jan 20, 2010 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
Much like Hart.,
Martin can argue that he was good enough to start the 2nd most games in the NL at C. That’s going to get him a raise. I don’t think players should be docked for a down year, especially when some of that is bound to happen due to luck.
If the IP or PAs start going down drastically, that’s probably where a team doesn’t need to give a guy a bump.
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by Fatter than Joey on Jan 20, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
At least he's a catcher though.
And one with significantly more notable upside.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
by Kyle Lobner on Jan 20, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
Hellz Yeah!!!
Especially these
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
Is anybody keeping track of the votes?
I think we’ve got two for the ’98 uniforms with the “M” on the hats, one vote for the ’96 uniforms with the interlocking “MB” on the hats … anybody else want to get in on the action?
the 1 time used uni's of the future from 1999.
still can’t find pictures though.
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Put me down for the MB logo...
if nothing else, it’s because I have a cap with that logo and not with the “M”.
I want powder blues
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Are they going to wear the home pinstripes with Brewers in script rather than block letters?
As depicted here.
I thought they did that already.
If I remember correctly, they do it on Retro Fridays. I think it’s one of the Diamond Dancers dressed up in lederhosen… not a foam costume like Bernie wears.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1298/607089486_f7ea220b8c.jpg?v=0
I never understood the objection to those
At least they didn’t slap the namesake’s face on them like another MKE team.
See, I never thought those were that bad.
IMO, they’re much better than the standard, “Brewers”-in-script uniforms that we — and about 24 other teams — wear now.
I loved 'em when I was about 8 years old
Now I can see how ugly they really are
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
by BrewHaHeather on Jan 20, 2010 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
That's how I feel about the 80's retro unis.
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I don't get the dislike of the old unis
The old logo is one of the best sports logos of all time!
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
by BrewHaHeather on Jan 20, 2010 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
It's too cartoony. Just like the rest of the '80s uniforms.
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great logo, bad associations with the uniforms
iirc, the last time we hashed this out, the bad reaction to ’80s retro is that we need to get over 1982 already.
if this is the only retro they’re doing this year, with the 4-decade thing, I definitely approve as it makes it more special.
This, on both counts.
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by Kyle Lobner on Jan 20, 2010 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
Hat yes..
Rest of the uniform no.
Colors looks funky, almost like they are trying to be 90s cool with funky colors. The logo is a bag of fail. Infact all the uniforms in the 90s looked pretty bad. I love the retro logo, but not a fan of pinstripes. I’d like something like the old uniform with updated color schemes personally.
More importantly
Will they be wearing stirrups?
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
by BrewHaHeather on Jan 20, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
It's all a matter of perspective, I suppose.
I wasn’t all that impressed by McDonald when he was in Milwaukee, but it sure would be nice to find one more guy with a 3.96 ERA to add the rotation right about now.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jan 20, 2010 10:21 AM CST reply actions
for $3.5 MM
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Probably need to bring back the "Uniforms of the future" from 1999, also.
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You mean...
Turn Ahead The Clock Night?!?!?!?!?
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
by Hyatt on Jan 20, 2010 10:43 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
I feel like they should have updated the Barrel Man for TATC Night.
Maybe made him look like that FOX NFL robot, or the fire-breathing, car-crushing Looper …
We need to bring back Barrel Man
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
by BrewHaHeather on Jan 20, 2010 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah...
it’ll give Prince something to do in the off-season
"I hope your name is Rick"
I like the Barrellman Hats.
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by Fatter than Joey on Jan 20, 2010 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
They should do a Barrel Man sleeve patch
Like the As have the elephant sleeve patch
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
by BrewHaHeather on Jan 20, 2010 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
So do I
I would consider purchasing one, were it available. The jersey, not so much, though the Brewers’ “future” jersey is better than many of the others.
You've got a couple screws missin' up in your toolbox, if you think that you'll stop this man from hittin' moonshots.
They sell barrelman hats, but it's the full 'swinging-a-bat' logo
I’ve seen them in the MP store.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
I remember that.
Didn’t we play at Florida? They had a banner that said “Florida Marlins, 2021 Universe Champions”
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
WHOA. that's incorrect!
everyone knows that the marlins were moved to the AL, changed their name to the miami gators, and beat the cubs to win the 2015 world series!
wait… did doug davis just sign with milwaukee?
by Capt Science on Jan 20, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
In the future, there shall be NO SLEEVES!
Probably for some good reason.
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In The Year 2000!
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Robot arms don't need sleeves.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Beat me to it.
We’ll all have bionic arms like Jax in Mortal Kombat. And, of course, we’ll want to show them off.
Global warming,
too hot for sleeves
It is what it is.
by coolig on Jan 20, 2010 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Also
Didn’t Jr Griffey play with his hat backwards for that?
I was drunk. Sue me.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jan 20, 2010 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
So did Bonds
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
The wrap-around snake for the D-Backs is brutal...
… even worse than the rest. What’s next horizontal stripes on a hat? oh wait…
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jan 20, 2010 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
The Hardball Times article on fan happiness
sounds a lot more like how the author perceives the team, rather than the fans. The only complaint mentioned was Carlos Gomez.
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
Instead he should have written about the Happy Youngster being a reason for team unhappiness.
And the fast-talking basketball fund-raiser.
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Congratulations to the Cubs for keeping arbitration salaries low.
Question is…superior negotiating skills, or sub-par arbitration-eligible players.
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Marmol and Theriot
Are still Arby 1 (Plus Marshall). I wouldn’t be surprised of Marmol got a decent raise.
Marmol will be over 2M
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by Fatter than Joey on Jan 20, 2010 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
Which would be a $1.5M bump
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by Fatter than Joey on Jan 20, 2010 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
The oracle has spoken
I was drunk. Sue me.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jan 20, 2010 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
On an unrelated note
This “Virtual Sax” cat at the top of my page is really starting to grind my gears.
Any one else finding this guy to be a bother?
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by Fatter than Joey on Jan 20, 2010 12:08 PM CST reply actions
This Virtual Sax dude
Seems to have overcome my adblockers.
I have adblockers, yet he is always getting in my business.
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by Fatter than Joey on Jan 20, 2010 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
Does he have your phone number, too?
If he does, has someone warned you about the dangers of saxting?
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
The ads alternate between Virtual Sax Guy
and Jenny McCarthy.
I am giving neither of them my phone number.
Smooth Jazz blows.
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by Fatter than Joey on Jan 20, 2010 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
Not my hot tub
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by Fatter than Joey on Jan 20, 2010 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
Your First Person Tetris game gave me a wicked case of the dizzies.
Let me know when you’ll be by to throw some sawdust on my sick.
Yeah
I decided to give it another shot immediately after lunch. It was my worst idea since Off Day Astrology.
As for cleaning up, though: If I were you, I’d just leave it there. Odds are you’ll just make it worse if DePaul finds a way to beat the Gold tonight.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
by Kyle Lobner on Jan 20, 2010 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
BTW
Blogging the Bracket has Marquette as a #2 seed in their projected NIT field.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
by Kyle Lobner on Jan 20, 2010 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
That's better than the preseason.
Back in October, some talking heads didn’t even have us making the NIT.
Off Day Astrology
I don’t think I ever read a single one of those.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
they were easy to write, as a silly, glorified open thread on the topic of the day.
But yeah, they never really seemed to take off. Which makes sense, really.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
by Kyle Lobner on Jan 20, 2010 1:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
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How does Rickie Weeks not trip on his pants, or at least never get his cleats stuck in them? It’s baffling.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
IIRC, Ronnie Belliard's used to be much worse.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
Along the same lines...
How come he can’t make throws from second to first without the occasional skip?
back in soccer/rugby/football
people used to put the end of their long socks under the cleats of the heel. i wonder if rickie does the same with his pants?
The Astros have the 30th ranked happiest fans
Anyone else besides me giddy that that Houston is finally taking it in the shorts big time for that outrageous contract to El Caballo? Hopefully we are laughing in 4 years about Holliday’s deal.
by Brew Town Boozer on Jan 20, 2010 2:31 PM CST reply actions
The Astros
Have done a lot more stupid things than signing Carlos Lee — who was a good value for them up until 2009.
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by Fatter than Joey on Jan 20, 2010 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
These next two years...
is what we have been waiting for in regard to that contract. You kind of have to factor in the next two years to decide which of all of the stupid thing was worst. Either way, they suck.
by Brew Town Boozer on Jan 20, 2010 7:26 PM CST up reply actions
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Cincinnati
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57 | 46 | .553 | 0 | Won 2 |
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St. Louis
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56 | 46 | .549 | 0.5 | Lost 1 |
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Milwaukee
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48 | 55 | .466 | 9 | Lost 2 |
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Chicago
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46 | 56 | .450 | 10.5 | Lost 2 |
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Houston
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42 | 59 | .415 | 14 | Won 2 |
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Pittsburgh
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36 | 65 | .356 | 20 | Lost 1 |
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