BCB Community Prospect Rankings: Vote for our 17th and final spot
by Kyle Lobner on Jan 23, 2010 4:00 PM CST
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PrintLogan Schafer and Jeremy Jeffress tied for the 15th spot, so here's where we stand:
1. Alcides Escobar
2. Brett Lawrie
3. Mat Gamel
4. Jonathan Lucroy
5. Eric Arnett
6. Zach Braddock
7. Jake Odorizzi
8. Angel Salome
9. Kentrail Davis
10. Lorenzo Cain
11. Caleb Gindl
12. Wily Peralta
13. Cody Scarpetta
14. Mark Rogers
15t. Jeremy Jeffress
15t. Logan Schafer
And your nominees for #17:
Evan Anundsen
John Axford
Nick Bucci
Josh Butler
Chris Dennis
Eric Farris
Taylor Green
Brooks Hall
Kyle Heckathorn
Hernan Iribarren
Maverick Lasker
Chuck Lofgren
Dan Merklinger
Jose Alberto Pena
Alex Periard
Josh Prince
D'Vontrey Richardson
Amaury Rivas
Max Walla
Rob Wooten
Follow the jump for more on the nominees, then vote in the poll below. Voting will remain open for 48 hours, closing at 4 pm Monday.
Evan Anundsen, RHP
Rankings:
John Sickels: 18
Brewerfan.net Power 50: 21
Baseball America: 26
FanGraphs: 8
Diamond Futures: 16
Baseball Intellect (preliminary): NR (Rankings ended at 10)
The Hardball Times: NR
Age: 21
Seasons in minors: 4
Top level reached in 2009: A+
2009 Statistics:
Brevard Co. (A+): 24 G, 10-8, 2.69 ERA, 130.1 IP, 101 H, 41 BB, 118 K
John Axford, RHP
Rankings:
John Sickels: Honorable Mention
Brewerfan.net Power 50: 20
Baseball America: 23
FanGraphs: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Diamond Futures: Honorable Mention
Baseball Intellect (preliminary): NR (Rankings ended at 10)
The Hardball Times: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Age: 26
Seasons in minors: 3
Top level reached in 2009: MLB
2009 Statistics:
Brevard Co. (A+): 19 G, 4-1, 1.63 ERA, 27.2 IP, 14 H, 16 BB, 43 K
Huntsville (AA): 4 G, 0-0, 3.52 ERA, 7.2 IP, 7 H, 3 BB, 9 K
Nashville (AAA): 22 G, 3.55 ERA, 33 IP, 23 H, 19 BB, 37 K
Milwaukee (NL): 7 G, 3.52 ERA, 7.2 IP, 5 H, 6 BB, 9 K
Nick Bucci, RHP
Rankings:
John Sickels: HM
Brewerfan.net Power 50: 23
Baseball America: 29
FanGraphs: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Diamond Futures: 21
Baseball Intellect (preliminary): NR (Rankings ended at 10)
The Hardball Times: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Age: 19
Seasons in minors: 2
Top level reached in 2009: AA
2009 Statistics:
Helena (R+): 13 G, 6-3, 4.41 ERA, 69.1 IP, 59 H, 21 BB, 66 K
Huntsville (AA): 3 G, 1-0, 6.75 ERA, 4 IP, 3 H, 2 BB, 3 K
Josh Butler, RHP
Rankings:
John Sickels: 12
Brewerfan.net Power 50: 19
Baseball America: 24
FanGraphs: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Diamond Futures: Honorable Mention
Baseball Intellect (preliminary): NR (Rankings ended at 10)
The Hardball Times: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Age: 25
Seasons in minors: 4
Top level reached in 2009: MLB
2009 Statistics:
Arizona (Rookie): 4 G, 0-1, 4.76 ERA, 11.1 IP, 15 H, 6 BB, 16 K
Brevard Co. (A+): 9 G, 6-0, 2.47 ERA, 51 IP, 44 H, 23 BB, 32 K
Huntsville (AA): 8 G, 2-1, 2.85 ERA, 41 IP, 37 H, 13 BB, 33 K
Nashville (AAA): 3 G, 1-1, 3.60 ERA, 15 IP, 15 H, 1 BB, 15 K
Milwaukee (MLB): 3 G, 0-0, 9.00 ERA, 4 IP, 7 H, 6 BB, 3 K
Chris Dennis, OF
Rankings:
John Sickels: NR
Brewerfan.net Power 50: 31
Baseball America: NR (Rankings ended at 30)
FanGraphs: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Diamond Futures: 15
Baseball Intellect (preliminary): NR (Rankings ended at 10)
The Hardball Times: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Age: 21
Seasons in minors: 3
Top level reached in 2009: A
2009 Statistics:
Arizona (Rookie): 7 PA, .167/.286/.333, 1 2B, 0 3B, 0 HR, 1 R, 1 RBI, 0 SB, 0 CS
Wisconsin (A): 154 PA, .318/.409/.538, 15 2B, 1 3B, 4 HR, 20 R, 18 RBI, 2 SB, 0 CS
Eric Farris, 2B
Rankings:
John Sickels: 16
Brewerfan.net Power 50: 27
Baseball America: 19
FanGraphs: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Diamond Futures: 29
Baseball Intellect (preliminary): NR (Rankings ended at 10)
The Hardball Times: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Age: 23
Seasons in minors: 3
Top level reached in 2009: A+
2009 Statistics:
Brevard Co. (A+): 534 PA, .298/.341/.385, 18 2B, 1 3B, 7 HR, 68 R, 49 RBI, 70 SB, 6 CS
Taylor Green, 3B
Rankings:
John Sickels: Honorable Mention
Brewerfan.net Power 50: 9
Baseball America: 20
FanGraphs: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Diamond Futures: 18
Baseball Intellect (preliminary): NR (Rankings ended at 10)
The Hardball Times: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Age: 23
Seasons in minors: 4
Top level reached in 2009: AA
2009 Statistics:
Wisconsin (A): 26 PA, .400/.538/.600, 1 2B, 0 3B, 1 HR, 6 R, 5 RBI, 0 SB, 0 CS
Huntsville (AA): 345 PA, .258/.330/.356, 15 2B, 0 3B, 1 HR, 34 R, 43 RBI, 0 SB, 0 CS
Brooks Hall, RHP
Rankings:
John Sickels: Honorable Mention
Brewerfan.net Power 50: 38
Baseball America: 27
FanGraphs: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Diamond Futures: 30
Baseball Intellect (preliminary): NR (Rankings ended at 10)
The Hardball Times: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Age: 19
Seasons in minors: 0
Top level reached in 2009: Did not debut
Kyle Heckathorn, RHP
Rankings:
John Sickels: 10
Brewerfan.net Power 50: 16
Baseball America: 10
FanGraphs: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Diamond Futures: 9
Baseball Intellect (preliminary): 9
The Hardball Times: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Age: 21
Seasons in minors: 1
Top level reached in 2009: R+
2009 Statistics:
Brevard Co. (A+): 6 G, 0-1, 6.04 ERA, 22.1 IP, 30 H, 4 BB, 15 K
Hernan Iribarren, 2B/OF
Rankings:
John Sickels: NR
Brewerfan.net Power 50: 28
Baseball America: NR (Rankings ended at 30)
FanGraphs: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Diamond Futures: 31
Baseball Intellect (preliminary): NR (Rankings ended at 10)
The Hardball Times: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Age: 25
Seasons in minors: 6
Top level reached in 2009: MLB
2009 Statistics:
Nashville (AAA): 421 PA, .311/.362/.412, 19 2B, 5 3B, 3 HR, 46 R, 54 RBI, 13 SB, 7 CS
Milwaukee (NL): 14 PA, .231/.286/.385, 2 2B, 0 3B, 0 HR, 1 R, 1 RBI, 0 SB, 0 CS
Maverick Lasker, RHP
Rankings:
John Sickels: Honorable Mention
Brewerfan.net Power 50: 34
Baseball America: 30
FanGraphs: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Diamond Futures: Honorable Mention
Baseball Intellect (preliminary): NR (Rankings ended at 10)
The Hardball Times: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Age: 19
Seasons in minors: 1
Top level reached in 2009: A
2009 Statistics:
Arizona (Rookie): 13 G, 5-1, 3.26 ERA, 47 IP, 43 H, 9 BB, 39 K
Wisconsin (A): 2 G, 1-1, 5.00 ERA, 9 IP, 9 H, 5 BB, 4 K
Chuck Lofgren, LHP
Rankings:
John Sickels: Honorable Mention
Brewerfan.net Power 50: NR
Baseball America: NR (Rankings ended at 30)
FanGraphs: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Diamond Futures: 32
Baseball Intellect (preliminary): NR (Rankings ended at 10)
The Hardball Times: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Age: 23
Seasons in minors: 6
Top level reached in 2009: AAA
2009 Statistics:
Akron (AA): 8 G, 3-1, 1.48 ERA, 42.2 IP, 24 H, 15 BB, 31 K
Columbus (AAA): 17 G, 6-10, 5.31 ERA, 98.1 IP, 94 H, 33 BB, 62 K
Daniel Merklinger, LHP
Rankings:
John Sickels: Honorable Mention
Brewerfan.net Power 50: 33
Baseball America: NR (Rankings ended at 30)
FanGraphs: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Diamond Futures: Honorable Mention
Baseball Intellect (preliminary): NR (Rankings ended at 10)
The Hardball Times: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Age: 24
Seasons in minors: 3
Top level reached in 2009: A+
2009 Statistics:
Wisconsin (A): 11 G, 3-2, 2.55 ERA, 53 IP, 45 H, 17 BB, 53 K
Brevard Co (A+): 8 G, 4-1, 2.58 ERA, 38.1 IP, 27 H, 15 BB, 40 K
Jose Alberto Pena, OF
Rankings:
John Sickels: HM
Brewerfan.net Power 50: NR
Baseball America: NR
FanGraphs: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Diamond Futures: 26
Baseball Intellect (preliminary): NR (Rankings ended at 10)
The Hardball Times: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Age: 17
Seasons in minors: 0
Top level reached in 2009: Did not debut
Alex Periard, RHP
Rankings:
John Sickels: HM
Brewerfan.net Power 50: 23
Baseball America: 29
FanGraphs: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Diamond Futures: 21
Baseball Intellect (preliminary): NR (Rankings ended at 10)
The Hardball Times: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Age: 22
Seasons in minors: 5
Top level reached in 2009: A+
2009 Statistics:
Wisconsin (A): 3 G, 0-0, 3.18 ERA, 11.1 IP, 14 H, 2 BB, 5 K
Brevard Co. (A+): 9 G, 3-2, 5.23 ERA, 31 IP, 37 H, 13 BB, 22 K
Josh Prince, SS
Rankings:
John Sickels: Honorable Mention
Brewerfan.net Power 50: 30
Baseball America: NR (Rankings ended at 30)
FanGraphs: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Diamond Futures: 23
Baseball Intellect (preliminary): NR (Rankings ended at 10)
The Hardball Times: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Age: 21
Seasons in minors: 1
Top level reached in 2009: A
2009 Statistics:
Helena (Rookie): 176 PA, .298/.426/.348, 5 2B, 1 3B, 0 HR, 32 R, 8 RBI, 26 SB, 7 CS
Wisconsin (A): 140 PA, .221/.307/.287, 5 2B, 0 3B, 1 HR, 18 R, 10 RBI, 12 SB, 5 CS
D'Vontrey Richardson, OF
Rankings:
John Sickels: HM
Brewerfan.net Power 50: 24
Baseball America: 18
FanGraphs: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Diamond Futures: 27
Baseball Intellect (preliminary): NR (Rankings ended at 10)
The Hardball Times: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Age: 21
Seasons in minors: 0
Top level reached in 2009: Did not debut
Amaury Rivas, RHP
Rankings:
John Sickels: 15
Brewerfan.net Power 50: 12
Baseball America: 16
FanGraphs: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Diamond Futures: 34
Baseball Intellect (preliminary): NR (Rankings ended at 10)
The Hardball Times: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Age: 24
Seasons in minors: 5
Top level reached in 2009: A+
2009 Statistics:
Brevard Co. (A+): 26 G, 13-7, 2.98 ERA, 133 IP, 109 H, 43 BB, 123 K
Max Walla, OF
Rankings:
John Sickels: Honorable Mention
Brewerfan.net Power 50: 37
Baseball America: 28
FanGraphs: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Diamond Futures: 25
Baseball Intellect (preliminary): NR (Rankings ended at 10)
The Hardball Times: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Age: 18
Seasons in minors: 1
Top level reached in 2009: Rookie
2009 Statistics:
Arizona (Rookie): 212 PA, .199/.283/.280, 5 2B, 2 3B, 2 HR, 18 R, 19 RBI, 4 SB, 2 CS
Helena (Rookie): 8 PA, .250/.250/.250, 0 2B, 0 3B, 0 HR, 2 R, 0 RBI, 0 SB, 0 CS
Rob Wooten, RHP
Rankings:
John Sickels: Honorable Mention
Brewerfan.net Power 50: 29
Baseball America: NR (Rankings ended at 30)
FanGraphs: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Diamond Futures: Honorable Mention
Baseball Intellect (preliminary): NR (Rankings ended at 10)
The Hardball Times: NR (Rankings ended at 10)
Age: 24
Seasons in minors: 2
Top level reached in 2009: AA
2009 Statistics:
Brevard Co. (A+): 26 G, 1-1, 1.20 ERA, 30 IP, 21 H, 13 BB, 44 K
Huntsville (AA): 27 G, 0-1, 4.28 ERA, 27.1 IP, 26 H, 9 BB, 34 K
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It’s a credit to our farm system that Anundsen drops this far.
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by Bettman's Nightmare on Jan 23, 2010 6:52 PM CST reply actions
Agreed.
I think he probably should have been roughly 12th or so, but even there, it’s impressive to have that many better prospects.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
And that Rivas has dropped this far and is not in contention for this spot.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
That might wind up being the case for the guys at #7 and #12, too.
The #6 guy started his fourth year at A+, he just got the promotion Rivas didn’t. Also check out #14 and the pitcher at #15, though I’m sure they got ranked more for their names than anything else.
For what it’s worth, A+ is the fourth level of the system (Arizona, Helena, Wisconsin, Brevard County).
fair enough
but yeah…I’d put Jeffress around 42nd, just so he could be at 42.0. That and he hasn’t done much to impress when he has been around.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jan 25, 2010 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
Really, Heckathorn over Rivas?
26 G, 13-7, 2.98 ERA, 133 IP, 109 H, 43 BB, 123 K. Just look at that again. And his stuff is described as a low to mid 90s fastball and a really good change. But if I’m going to campaign just vote for Anundsen because Rivas is so far behind.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
Age/Upside
He is 24 years old and just finished his 2nd tour of High A ball. He may have some nice stuff, but at that age, and that level, guys arent really considered big time prospects any more. Heckathorn is just out of college and has electric stuff. if he improves his control/command, he is either an 8th/9th inning reliever, or a mid rotation starter.
Non flip answer
Older guys still in the minor leagues just arent really considered top notch prospects.
If he follows the pace he is on, Rivas will probably be a 26 year old rookie with a role as a 7th inning guy or something along those lines.
If you believe that a player hits his peak at age 27 or so, and also takes a couple of years to get acclimated to major league ball, a guy Rivas’ or McGehee’s age will be about 2 or 3 years behind schedule compared to top “prospects”.
In lower levels of minor league ball, age has a little bit to do with how bright a players star shines. Rivas is about 2 years older than the average player in High A ball and that can make a huge difference.
I know enough about Heckathorn
And given his profile I don’t see him in AA this year or even next. We’ll see, I guess, but you have to give some credit in rankings to being closer to the majors.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
Eh
There is a point there a bit, but Heckathorn (I will just add that I was not a fan of him beind drafted at this spot) will most likely be rushed through the system given his stuff and projectability.
This is kind of what happens a lot of times with Latin players. Sign contract, take quite a long time to get acclimated to professional baseball in America, and by the time they figure it out, they are already in the spot that Rivas is in: a bit old to be a prospect with not a lot of projectability left.
I think best case scenario for Rivas is as a late inning guy (7th most likely) who by age 27 or 28 or so turns into a reliable relief option. Heckathorn, if relegated to the bullpen, profiles more as a power 8th or 9th inning guy, or the sky is the limit projection of front line starter.
Brooks Hall
I guess I’m the charter member of the Brooks Hall fan club. Huge potential in that right arm.
Chicks Dig The Long Ball.
I voted Rivas the last 3 times
In any case, I wonder if the Brewers had wonderful pitching at the big league level that they had developed internally, and almost no offense, if folks might rank these differently? Some of the pitchers in the rankings were way too high, in my opinion.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
Logan Schafer behind Kentrail Davis?
You guys need to get over that 1st round draft picks are nit necessarily better prospects tan lower round guys. My guess is 90% of you have never seen Schafer or Davis play. Well, I have and you have missed the boat. Schafer to the Bigs way before Davis which makes him a higher prospect in my book.
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