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Friday's Frosty Mug

Some things to read while checking your local listings.

Well, I guess I was wrong about Frank Catalanotto, but I got the "aged veteran" part right, as the Brewers signed Jim Edmonds to a minor league deal yesterday (FanShot). Edmonds will earn $850,000 this season if he makes the team, and can request his release if he's not on the major league roster by March 25. Here are some thoughts on the deal from around the web:

All told, I'm doing my best not to get too excited about this move either way. I learned something last spring when I raised my blood pressure (and some of yours) with a rant about a minor league deal for Eric Gagne, only to have him come nowhere close to making the team and have the whole conversation become irrelevant. There are potential pros and cons to Edmonds as a Brewer, but he needs to come to camp and demonstrate some ability to perform before any of them become relevant. If he can't, he'll be gone before you can say "2010's version of Trot Nixon."

Besides, if you're looking for a reason to raise your blood pressure, there's a better option today. PECOTA and CAIRO's projected standings came out yesterday, and they have the Brewers winning 75 and 81.3 games and finishing tied for fourth and fourth in the division, respectively (h/t BBTF and FanShot). I know some of us are higher on the Brewers than others, but I think 75 wins is an unreasonably low projection, as is a fourth place finish. PECOTA also has two other strikes against them: They project the Brewers to allow 895 runs, which is 77 more than last year, and they project the Nationals to win 82 games.

Even if the 2010 Brewers are as bad as PECOTA seems to think they will be, they should be more exciting on the basepaths: Team Wisconsin notes the speed added to this year's team, and thinks they can steal at least 100 bases.

In the minors:

  • Keith Law has released his Top 100 prospect list, top ten prospects by organization and organizational rankings this week, and they're not too positive for the Brewers. The Brewers only had two players in the top 100, with Brett Lawrie at #47 and Alcides Escobar at #54, and the organization ranked 26th overall.
  • Beyond the Box Score has an interesting post comparing Law's rankings to John Sickels.
  • I seem to recall a thread on this site at one point discussing our personal preferences for walkup music. Apparently Fang's choices needed some work: They're the subject of this week's episode of The Offseason.
  • Speaking of the Timber Rattlers, here's an interesting note (complete with an original sketch) on the origin of their logo. Thanks to tristarscoop for the heads up.

There wasn't quite enough notable news to warrant a Winter League Update this morning, but there were these notes:

  • Carlos Gomez entered the game as a defensive replacement and didn't bat in Escogido's 5-2 win over Cibao, clinching the DWL championship. 
  • Martin Maldonado and Mayaguez missed their first shot at clinching the Puerto Rican championship, losing 9-2 to Caguas.

If you have MLB Network, you might get to see both Gomez and Maldonado play next week: The network is televising the Caribbean World Series this year, with the first game on Tuesday afternoon.

If you're looking for Brewer chats past and present, here are some opportunities: Tom Haudricourt was a guest on HotStove.com yesterday, Brian Anderson will be chatting with fans at 10 am today, and that last link includes a note on Gregg Zaun, Manny Parra and Carlos Villanueva chatting with fans on Sunday as part of Brewers On Deck.

Speaking of On Deck, John Steinmiller and Caitlyn Moyer have some numbers on the event.

Via Tom Haudricourt, we learned yesterday that the Brewers have agreed to deals with five more players on the 40 man roster: Tim Dillard, Mark Rogers, Amaury Rivas, Luis Cruz, and Angel Salome, along with Mat Gamel, who we've already mentioned.  Via Baseball America's Minor League Transactions, we learned yesterday that the Brewers have released three minor league pitchers:

  • Mark Holliman, who made 26 starts in Huntsville last season, posting a 4.62 ERA in 137.2 innings.
  • Greg Miller, a 2008 10th round pick who sat out all of 2009.
  • Jose Romero, a Venezuelan lefty who made ten appearances for the AZL Brewers last season.

BA also notes new homes for former Brewers Brady Clark (White Sox) and Sam Narron (Tigers).

Around baseball:

Dodgers: Signed outfielder Timo Perez and pitcher John Koronka to minor league deals.
Nationals: Designated reliever Marco Estrada for assignment.
Phillies: Signed Jose Contreras to a one year deal worth $1.5 million.
Rays: Signed pitcher Matt Bush to a minor league deal.
Rockies: Signed pitchers Justin Speier and Jimmy Gobble to minor league deals with invitations to spring training.

There's only one other former Brewer note on the Hot Stove today: Apparently the Orioles are interested in Braden Looper. Can you imagine his numbers in the AL East?

Odds are someone reading this site has some time on their hands and would be a pretty good fit for this job: Amy K. Nelson notes that the Indians are looking to hire someone for a Social Media Communications position.

Happy birthday today to:

A quick side note: Tomorrow is SABR Day, and there's a meeting in Milwaukee to commemorate the occasion. I'm not sure if I'll make it (Mrs. Snow isn't too excited about it), but are any BCB'ers planning on attending?

Oh, and if your baseball career doesn't work out, I guess there's always professional poker.

Drink up.

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Edmonds

Is Melvin intending him for a platoon role in right with Corey Hart? Still wouldn’t make 400 PA’s that way, but would it be surprising if he was promised as much?

by dtmeyers on Jan 29, 2010 9:51 AM CST reply actions  

I would have loved to have had Edmunds about 8 years ago.

Shoot, even last year he may have made a difference. If he can do what he did for the Cubs in 08 that wouldnt be too bad at all.

by backtocali on Jan 29, 2010 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Macha

Was on TMJ4’s morning show today but I did not see it. I would assume that the first question any baseball knowledgable person would ask him would involve his preferred style of play and the FO adding speed to the lineup.

Should be interesting to see how that all works out on the field this year.

I just dont get DM. He acts like he is running a big market team with the moves he has made this year. I dont see Edmunds even making the team. I know he didnt show it last year, but if you want to platoon with Hart, why not Gerut? When he was given consitent playing time I felt that he was quite effective.

by backtocali on Jan 29, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Edmonds against righties...

I am thinking about this more and I don’t really mind it. There isn’t a right hander in the league who can throw a slider down and away to Corey Hart if he is on the bench…

Meh who am I kidding Hart will still swing at it.

by BrewCrewBrian on Jan 29, 2010 2:33 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

hahaha

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jan 29, 2010 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

PECOTA

I like Pecota. I use them for the personal projections that I make as a basis. It appears as though they havent put up the projections for individual players though for 2010.

For what its worth, I think Pecota had the Brewers winning 87 games last year. I had them at 82.

I agree that 75 wins is a bit pessimistic. I had them pegged at 85 or so without doing any in depth research, but now that Pecota has them that low, I’ll have to see what my BP annual has to say. Maybe 85 is too optimistic.

by backtocali on Jan 29, 2010 10:15 AM CST reply actions  

as a side note

They do have VORP values up for the team so far:

Here’s what they have Fielder 64.5 -, Braun 54.5 -, Weeks 37.3 +, Hart 26 +, the rest in the teens with Zaun single digits. Gallardo 26.3 -, Wolf 13 + from Looper, Doug Davis 13.2 , Hawkins and Stetter in the teens and those are the highest pitchers. Last year the Brewers had Coffey and Hoffman in the 20s.

by backtocali on Jan 29, 2010 10:26 AM CST up reply actions  

I like Brew Brew Ball so much

and live chats never make that more clear. someone just mentioned missing JJ Hardy, Mike Cameron and Jason Kendall from this year’s squad. I can understand Hardy and Cameron to some extent, but Jason Kendall? Who could’ve watched last season and come to the conclusion that they’d miss him? It’s a bit baffling. Maybe they like guys that look like pirates?

by ecocd on Jan 29, 2010 10:24 AM CST reply actions  

I also like Brew Crew Ball

Someone could look to see if Brew Brew Ball is available, however. Sounds like a softball league name if I’ve ever heard one.

by ecocd on Jan 29, 2010 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

I was trying to think of logos for our softball team, but i have very little artistic ability.

Anybody have some extra time and want to draw up a mug of beer being smashed by a baseball/softball?

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jan 29, 2010 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Why would you smash a mug of beer with a baseball.

I think you would rather smash a baseball with a mug of beer.

Taking shallowness to new depths -- FtJ's blog

by Fatter than Joey on Jan 29, 2010 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Um, we like to crush beers.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jan 29, 2010 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

with baseballs?

I think it would be better, to have some guy swinging a mug of beer and hitting a baseball…

Baseballs breaking mugs of beer, sort of make me sad.

Taking shallowness to new depths -- FtJ's blog

by Fatter than Joey on Jan 29, 2010 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

that would be sweet!

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jan 29, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

A mug doesn't make a good bat.

I’d go with a guy swinging a 40 instead.

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by Yar Nivek on Jan 29, 2010 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

in my college days we played edward forty hands

After it was over, we played pingpong using the bottles as rackets.

I smashed my roomate at the time’s bottle, and cut him up pretty bad.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jan 29, 2010 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

sweet!

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jan 29, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Weren't we all waiting

for nullacct to come up with something quite good? The relatively size fo the mug to the player is particularly funny. If tcyoung can get that on whatever t-shirts, he’ll be a pretty popular guy.

by ecocd on Jan 29, 2010 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah,

Nullacct took the bait.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jan 29, 2010 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

come on, it was a metaphor

I think it would have looked pretty cool.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jan 29, 2010 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Follow through straight to your mouth.

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by Yar Nivek on Jan 29, 2010 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

You think that's bad

My dad once tried to tell me that the Brewers should’ve kept Looper because he won 14 games.

"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC

by BrewHaHeather on Jan 29, 2010 12:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Turnbow found a job

w/the fish.

Follow: @mykenk. Read thoughts: http://mhenk.blogspot.com.

by Mykenk on Jan 29, 2010 10:38 AM CST reply actions  

Really?

I thought the Dodgers were going after him.

by sjlee on Jan 29, 2010 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe they were.

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by Mykenk on Jan 29, 2010 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Best of luck to him!

"This one means 'Kill Kirk!!!!'... And also, 'hallelujah'... Depending on the context."

by trippingandy on Jan 29, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Mosquera was a Brewer for a whole week

Either Miller or Moeller was dinged up and they needed another catcher for a couple series so they called up Mosquera. He sat on the bench until Yost gave him a meaningless PA at the end of one game. I give credit to Yost for doing that so Mosquera could show up in a box score.

by TheJay on Jan 29, 2010 10:51 AM CST reply actions  

The anti-corporan?

Follow: @mykenk. Read thoughts: http://mhenk.blogspot.com.

by Mykenk on Jan 29, 2010 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Memorabilia?

I have my scoresheet from the Mosquera game.

by statsllc on Jan 29, 2010 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Checking local listings

I take it Brian Butch has never watched a late CBS football game that mentions 60 Minutes being next everywhere but the West Coast.

by TheJay on Jan 29, 2010 12:48 PM CST reply actions  

Maybe, like most of us

He didn’t care when 60 minutes is on. :-)

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Jan 29, 2010 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

or how long it lasts

"I like Suppan"
- Noah J. on 12/22/09

by molitorfan on Jan 30, 2010 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

FSN Brewers Classic on right now

Cards in Milwaukee, 0-0 in the 6th

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Jan 29, 2010 1:20 PM CST reply actions  

Hotstove.com

I think the guy on the right wears a muscle suit underneath his sweater.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Jan 29, 2010 1:30 PM CST reply actions  

Depressing

Jim Edmonds. There is probably a reason he didn’t play an inning last season. Why not just go for Julio Franco or Steve Beuchele.

by Wade V on Jan 29, 2010 3:59 PM CST reply actions  

That's more or less how I feel

If there was one minor league invite left for an outfielder, I’d rather have one that’s not as old and busted.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Jan 29, 2010 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

it's like DM read that fangraphs article from the other day

you know, the one about older players being the new market inefficiency. except he misread it as “old and busted players.”

by morineko on Jan 29, 2010 8:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Brewers should sign Steve Buscemi to play outfield.

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by Yar Nivek on Jan 29, 2010 11:53 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

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