Tuesday's Frosty Mug
Some things to read while removing the S.
It's a big day for managerial speculation, so let's get right to it:
- Adam McCalvy got in touch with Ron Roenicke yesterday and he refused to comment on his potential candidacy. So it's probably safe to assume he's the third member of the final four.
- Doug Padilla of ESPN Chicago is reporting that the Brewers are strongly considering Joey Cora.
- Meanwhile, Tim Wallach didn't make the second round (FanShot).
- Tom Haudricourt is guessing that Bobby Valentine is the fourth.
- Former Cubs bench coach Alan Trammel isn't the fourth: He's going to be the Diamondbacks' bench coach this season.
We're only a few weeks away from the opening of hot stove season, and Tim Brown of Yahoo seems to think the Brewers could be pretty active in the market. He lists the Brewers as one of six teams that could potentially trade for Zack Greinke, and lists eight teams (the Red Sox, Rays, White Sox, Braves, Cubs, Rockies, Dodgers and Giants) that could have interest in Prince Fielder.
The hot stove probably won't be as hot for these three guys: Matthew Pouliot of Hardball Talk is ranking this offseason's free agents from 1-111, and Gregg Zaun (98), Craig Counsell (109) and Dave Bush (111) are all pretty close to the bottom.
For today, though, the hot stove is quiet. No transactions to report.
If you've been following along in the AFL/Winter League notes, you know that Carlos Gomez is spending his offseason playing for Escogido in the Dominican Republic. He might win the award for "most fascinating teammate:" Jamie Moyer, who will turn 48 in November, is also on the roster.
Seth McClung is in the Halloween spirit this week, and notes that it's not the only time major league rookies wear costumes.
Elsewhere in former Brewers: Get Your Film Fix says he'd cast Ed O'Neill (who plays Jay Pritchett on Modern Family and played Al Bundy in Married with Children) if making a film about Ken Macha.
Last week I posted a couple of times about fan behavior in New York during the ALCS. As it turns out, the behavior might have some interesting consequences: Cliff Lee's wife Kristen sat in the visiting family section at Yankee Stadium and her comments would suggest it didn't help the Yankees' chances of signing Lee this winter.
Happy birthday today to:
- Nashville Sound Marty McLeary, who turns 36.
- 2000-01 Brewer Mark Sweeney, who turns 41.
- 1993 Brewer Rafael Novoa, who turns 43.
- 1989-90 Brewer Gus Polidor, who would have turned 49.
- Oshkosh, WI native Bill Gogolewski, who turns 63. Gogolewski spent six seasons in the majors between 1970-75 with the Senators/Rangers and two other teams.
Now, if you'll excuse me, my game is paused.
Drink up.
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Didn't TH already say Valentine wasn't a candidate?
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TH wrote this last week in the comments section:
I just was told by a very good source that neither Bob Brenly nor Bobby Valentine are in the mix for the Brewers’ managerial job
Was linked in the mug on Friday.
Get a ife broseph
In other words...
TH knows about as much as we do on the whole situation.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Did we not have a scouting report on Cora, or did I just miss it?
by KittenMittons on Oct 26, 2010 9:26 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I sent out emails asking for one, but none came back.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Oct 26, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
More I think about it
More I’m kind of warming up to the idea of giving a guy like Roenicke or Cora the job. Might be nice to see how a new manager takes an approach to our team.
"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck
And by new I mean someone who's never managed before
Not like “we’re hiring a new manager to replace the old one”.
"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck
by GormanBraun28 on Oct 26, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions
I've never managed before
I’d like to throw my hat into the ring.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
I officially declare my intention to run for manager
Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.
by theBrouhaha on Oct 26, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
I was under consideration
But I hereby withdraw to spend more time with my family.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 26, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I had an initial interview with Melvin
but was told that if I was regularly blogging about my own job security, it’d be too “meta.”
I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.
by Rubie Q on Oct 26, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Doug's word, not mine.
Obviously.
I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.
by Rubie Q on Oct 26, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
None of you guys have what it takes
I vote for Ralph Nader
"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck
by GormanBraun28 on Oct 26, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm retiring from my family
To spend more time with baseball
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
by jarlbartar on Oct 26, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
make it green
Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.
Remember that Family Guy episode...
when Brian calls out Stewie for lifting a joke from an issue of The Onion?
by thefreewheelin76 on Oct 26, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh yes, full disclosure
Stolen unabashedly from the Onion
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
I'm thinking the same way
If the candidates are Roenicke, Cora, Melvin or unknown – I’d rather take a chance with Cora or Roenicke.
Get a ife broseph
If you follow the "removing the S" link at the top of the Mug
take a good look at the illustration at the top of the page. Racing Sausages on the right, Robin Yount is playing shortstop, and the flags on the poles show the standings as of 5/31/2009, which means the Brewers are in first place.
I like that site.
"Not everything's baseball." "Yes, it is!"
by hawing on Oct 26, 2010 11:22 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
>= 3 pitches -> legitimate potential major league starter
I think that’s the normal process. Go Jeffress.
"Just one more turn." - The Civilization addict's motto
Whether the changeup is legit or not
I think it’s safe to say Jeffress has a bright future here. Whether he’s hitting mid-90’s as a starter or 98 as a reliever, that’s the big heat the Brewers were hoping for when they drafted him.
"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck
by GormanBraun28 on Oct 26, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Meh.
Considering his off the field issues, I’ll gladly take a flamethrowing reliever.
But that would still be a big disappointment from the #1/2 type pitcher they thought they were drafting.
Huh?
Chris Smith’s average FB velocity is 88.5, occasionally up to 92. I guess I wouldn’t classify that as ‘flamethrower’.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 26, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
You will once you start on fire!
http://www.mlbsoup.com
by tcyoung on Oct 26, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
As you shouldn't.
Smith is the other side of the coin.
Velocity (or lack of) is not the be all end all.
Got your point now
It was pretty vague.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 27, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
again
“good” flamethrowers
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I'm having a hard time
understanding whether the “Turnbow, McClung, Smith” comments are meant to indicate that their respective authors think that little of Jeffress, or whether they’re just naming some arbitrary ex-Brewers.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 26, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we're making fun of the fact
that people assuming “flamethrowers” are valuable.
Or of the fact that they see Jeffress as merely a flamethrower.
Either way, I’m sure we’re making fun of someone.
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mocking is going on
we just can’t figure out who is being mocked
Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.
So, typical day at BCB.
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by Mykenk on Oct 26, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Recville
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 26, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I was making the point that putting a guy in the pen just because he throws hard isn't a good decision.
Is it good to have some good flamethrowers in the pen? sure (Ax man, Braddock, Loe)
If Jeffress reaches his potential (can develop a third pitch) he will be more valuable in the rotation.
by BrewCrewBrian on Oct 27, 2010 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
Except I don’t consider Loe a flamethrower… his average fastball velocity is under 90 mph.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
I could have sworn that I had seen it at 92.
My bad.
by BrewCrewBrian on Oct 27, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Having an average fastball of 92 isn't really a flamethrower
Axford’s average fastball was almost 94.9 mph this season, while Coffey’s was 93.6 mph.
As a comparison, Billy Wagner’s was 95.6 mph.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
so there are 8 possible teams who could trade for Fielder
My thoughts:
Red Sox- the Sox aren’t gonna let go of Bucholz and are only gonna offer Dice-K in terms of pitchers
Rockies- possibly Jhoulys Chacin
Rays- Matt Garza, Wade Davis, OR possibly Hellickson(but very unlikely)
Giants- Cain, Bumgarner, OR Sanchez
Braves- Mike Minor and/or(but most likely “or”) Julio Teheran(most likely Minor)
Cubs- why the Cubs? anyway I don’t know many Cubs pitchers who are good
White Sox- Danks or Floyd
Dodgers- Billingsley
My thoughts are based on which pitchers are the Brewers likely to get from a Fielder trade
I think I disagree with your wording
My thoughts are based on which pitchersare the BrewersDoug Melvin is likely toget fromask for in a Fielder trade
Realistically if you take the Red Sox, for example (in my opinion), the Brewers MAY be able to get someone like Casey Kelly or Daniel Bard and a Lars Anderson/Josh Reddick type. Probably two of those 4, and that depends on whether the Sox are planning to keep Bard. Kelly was ranked in the low-20s to begin 2010, and he may even be off-limits as I believe he’s generally thought of as the team’s best prospect. I have to believe that Anthony Ranaudo would be off limits as well as Felix Doubront. Ironically, I’m sure the Red Sox would love to throw Michael Bowden in on any deal involving Fielder. That might be the best chance to pick up 3 prospects from them for Prince. Possibly Michael Bowden, Drake Britton, and some low level positional prospect. Given Britton was the breakout player of the year in the minors for the Red Sox, who knows if that would even fly.
I think people’s expectations on trade return are unrealistically high for Fielder.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 26, 2010 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
at least it isn't as bad as the thought that Melvin could get Felix Hernandez for Fielder
as I have read in Bleacher Report. Now THAT was a serious head-scratcher :/
by ilikeburritos on Oct 26, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Reading Bleacher Report
was your mistake there.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Oct 27, 2010 7:02 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Without knowing what the offers are from other teams...
I don’t think you can say one way or another which is the “smart choice”.
However, I think that holding onto him is a distinct possibility.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
What DM should do
is listen for the right offers first and if he can’t find any then hold on to him and get compensation picks. But easier said than done, though.
by ilikeburritos on Oct 27, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
three way deal
No team in the N.L. will want Fielder.
Giants get to the world series without fielder why would they trade one of there good pitchers?
I say a 3 way deal Fielder (signs a long term)goes to the Red Sox for minor leaguers, those minor leaguers and maybe one more from brewers minor league go to the Royals for Greineke.
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