Managerial Survivor: Cooper Eliminated, Vote for Elimination #2

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 26, 2010 12:01 PM CDT in Events

Looks like we've established that Cecil Cooper is not our guy. Here's the remaining field:

~~Cecil Cooper~~ (eliminated first)
Joey Cora
Bob Melvin
Ron Roenicke
Juan Samuel
Ted Simmons
Tim Wallach

You have until 3 pm Wednesday to vote in this round.

Poll

Which of these six candidates should be eliminated next?

Joey Cora

41 votes

Bob Melvin

111 votes

Ron Roenicke

32 votes

Juan Samuel

97 votes

Ted Simmons

149 votes

Tim Wallach

71 votes

501 votes | Poll has closed

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Lets try this again

Melvin

Theory: The friend of my enemy is my enemy, or something like that.

by backtocali on Oct 26, 2010 12:02 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

Ron Roenicke

same reason.

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Note: Improvement not guaranteed.

by Mykenk on Oct 26, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs

touche

by backtocali on Oct 26, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions

Seriously, this is getting old.

I get that you don’t like DM, which is your right. But hating decisions because he’s making them is turning you into a caricature.

I think there are reasons to dislike Bob Melvin that are stronger than “someone else likes him.”

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 26, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs

Gotcha

by backtocali on Oct 26, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions

Worth noting

At least at this point, the #1, 2 and 4 least unpopular choices are in the final four.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 26, 2010 2:04 PM CDT reply actions

So...

Does “Ted Simmons” actually refer to the person Ted Simmons, or TedSimmonsSpeedCamp?

I’d vote to keep the latter as a candidate.

by cwolf20 on Oct 26, 2010 3:11 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs

Agreed.

I, for one, would enjoy TSSC press conferences.

by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 26, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions

experienced manager????

Didn’t melvin use that “experience thing” when he hired Ken Macha? That obviously didn’t work.

Why is Joey Cora and Ron Roenicke even being considered? Neither have been in the N.L. and will have a learning curve managing without a D.H.

Tim Bring back the chalet,frank charles at the wurlitzer organ, bob betts at the mic, and the barrell man logo!!!!

by storminTAZZ on Oct 26, 2010 8:45 PM CDT reply actions

So are you arguing for or against an experienced manager?

by Noah Jarosh on Oct 26, 2010 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions

I think

He is against hiring an experienced guy just because he is experienced (put me in this club) and against guys that don’t have any NL experience.

I am guessing that his idea candidate would be a guy like Sveum. (or one of those guys if they had been assistants on an NL club).

by BrewCrewBrian on Oct 27, 2010 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions

Learning curve?

I think managing in the NL could easily be picked up in the offseason. It’s not that much more complicated than the AL. You could be an expert in under a week.

by kingcharlesxii on Oct 27, 2010 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions

I've spent years playing MLB The Show as the Brewers' manager

surely I must be qualified

Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.

by theBrouhaha on Oct 27, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions

I don’t think that really makes that much of a difference. There have been managers who made the transition pretty seamlessly. For example, both Pinella and LaRussa were able to make the transition from AL managers to NL managers (Pinella won the WS in his first year as an NL manager and LaRussa got his team to the NLCS).

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Oct 27, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions

The right bench coach negates the problem, I think.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 27, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions

Don't know if it's been reported on here yet, but

Apparently Bobby Valentine IS the 4th candidate being considered right now, as tweeted by Ken Rosenthal who says he “keeps hearing it”.

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Oct 26, 2010 9:56 PM CDT reply actions

The speculation continues...

TH link

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Oct 27, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions

I wonder where these rumors come from

by nullacct on Oct 27, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions

Heh

I think it’s very possible that Rosenthal was tweeting about the conversation he had with TH.

TH: Ken, do you know if Bobby Valentine is a finalist for the Brewers’ managerial job?
KR: It’d be awfully tough to keep that sort of thing quiet, but you never know.

Later…
KR: Valentine must be the 4th candidate… TH is the Brewers’ inside guy, so he must know what’s going on. Where’s my cell phone?

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Oct 27, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions

I would have liked to have seen Sveum get a shot. Ideally a shot during this past season. I think at the all star break or soon after this team was out of contention. Why not blade Macha and find out if Sveum can really manage. The players like him and it may have jumped started a few of them.

Going from AL to NL may not be a big issue. At that point I wouldn’t mind seeing Cora or Roenicke. I am just tired of the retreads, especially Melvin. He’s been interviewed three times now and the first two times he wasn’t hired.

Out of the current candidates I’d lean toward Cora because he was a second baseman and hopefully that would help Weeks out like it did having Randolph around.

Tim Bring back the chalet,frank charles at the wurlitzer organ, bob betts at the mic, and the barrell man logo!!!!

by storminTAZZ on Oct 27, 2010 9:46 AM CDT reply actions

If Sveum can't get the Pirates job, do we really want him for the Brewers?

As far as hiring Cora because he was a second baseman, is that really necessary? Does Weeks really need more help going foward? What about the other 24 guys on the roster? Maybe they should get Roenicke so he could help Hart out since he was an OF?

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Oct 27, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions

Not really his point...

But I see the value of hiring a guy with experience playing up the middle on defense, though probably matters less for manager as they won’t have the time to put in with specific players as a coach would.

Young middle infielders generally need more help on their defense than a corner OF would. Escobar struggled at times last year despite his tools and if Weeks doesn’t sign an extension they may need to break in another young guy at 2B in 2012.

A bench coach similar to Randolph could really provide some value if he’s able to help the team in that capacity next year.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Oct 27, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions

Agreed

I don’t think hiring a manager because he played a specific position should be a factor. If you want to hire someone to help players work on their defense, then you hire a coach.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Oct 27, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions

Not getting the Pirates job isn't necessarily a condemnation

The Pirates make lots of bad decisions.

by nullacct on Oct 27, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions

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