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Some things to read while cleaning the griddle.

The managerial search took something of a strange turn yesterday as Fox Sports reported that Bobby Valentine, who had previously been ruled out, "keeps coming up" as a potential candidate. Howie Magner is intrigued by the possibility, but Baseball Brew isn't interested.

So I guess it's possible Valentine is the fourth finalist. Rangers hitting coach and former Rockies manager Clint Hurdle is not: He told Tom Haudricourt the Brewers never contacted him to discuss the vacancy.

Meanwhile, at least one Brewer blogger is coming out against the concept of a Melvin-Melvin management team: Cody Zwiefelhofer makes the case against hiring Bob Melvin.

Award season continues to be pretty good to Casey McGehee: He's the Brewer nominee for the MLBPA's "Heart and Hustle Award." Follow that link to vote for him, or one of the other 29 candidates. Hardball Talk has a look at some of his more laughable opponents.

Speaking of Hardball Talk, Matthew Pouliot continues to rank this offseason's free agents from 1-111, and Trevor Hoffman checks in at #88.

McGehee and Hoffman both ranked pretty high on Miller Park Drunk's list of Brewers he'd trust with his girlfriend.

In the minors and winter leagues:

  • Josh Butler continued his rough start in Mexico yesterday, picking up his third consecutive loss and allowing six runs in 4.2 innings (AFL/Winter League Update). Jack Moore of Disciples of Uecker says it's going to be time for Butler to put up or shut up in 2011.
  • Yesterday I mentioned that Jamie Moyer will be one of Carlos Gomez's teammates for Escogido in the DWL this winter. As it turns out, Moyer won't be the only 45+ year old Dominican player: Ben Badler noted that 47 year old Luis Polonia is playing for Aguilas. Polonia last appeared in the majors in 2000.

Around baseball:

Blue Jays: New manager John Farrell's contract is for three years.
Mets: Are expected to hire Sandy Alderson as their new GM.
Nationals: Announced manager Jim Riggleman will return for 2011.
Phillies: Declined reliever J.C. Romero's option for 2011, making him a free agent.
White Sox: Exercised club options for reliever Matt Thornton and catcher Ramon Castro.
Yankees: Signed manager Joe Girardi to a new three year contract.

The Diamondbacks have announced six members of their 2011 coaching staff, but it's the (so far unnamed) seventh member that's interesting to me: They told the media they plan to add an extra member to the coaching staff so they can have a Spanish speaking coach on board. I'm not sure any of the 2010 Brewer coaches spoke Spanish, and I wonder if that was a factor in substandard performances from Carlos Gomez and Alcides Escobar.

Are you one of the (likely) minority of Brewer fans who think the team should make an effort to bring back Jorge De La Rosa this winter? If you answered yes, I have good news for you: JDLR's contract talks with the Rockies have stalled and he's expected to hit the open market.

If you've been around the internet for any length of time over the last couple of days you've likely been inundated with World Series previews, know most of the details of Bengie Molina's 2010 transaction history (he played for both teams!) and are aware of the fact that the games in Texas will have the DH and the games in San Francisco will not. But, you haven't actually seen enough World Series previews until you've read Wezen-ball's poetry. Oh, and Jeff Zimmerman's Umpire Heat Maps are pretty cool too.

Happy birthday today to:

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to open this box.

Drink up.

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@ bilingual

I’m with you on this. I think in today’s game it’s essential to have at least one coach who speaks Spanish.

by nullacct on Oct 27, 2010 10:10 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah

I can’t imagine the challenge of trying to coach someone you can’t fully communicate with. Maybe this is a new role for a guy like Billy Castro?

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 27, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Castro

I wonder if that’s one of the reasons why Castro remained on the coaching staff for so long – the ability to communicate with the Spanish-speaking players. There’s a lot of time during games to shoot the bull and for coaches and players to talk about what they see, and shift their approach. That’s a lot of teaching time lost if you can’t break the language barrier. If that was seen as part of Castro’s value then it was a one-way relationship, because he was stuck out in the bullpen for most of his tenure. If he comes back I’d like to see him in the dugout.

by nullacct on Oct 27, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I’ve heard the ability to communicate with spanish speaking players was the only quality he brought as a pitching coach during the 2009 season.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Oct 27, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yovani Gallardo?

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 27, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

lost in translation?

so the Spanish-speaking players on the team for most of this year included 1 reliever from the Dominican Republic, 1 outfielder from the Dominican Republic, a shortstop from Venezuela and a Mexican-American (from Fort Worth!) starting pitcher.

the result would probably end up a lot like what happened with my Mexican former boss trying to do translation on a customer call…“I know they’re speaking Spanish, but I don’t know what they’re saying.” (all right, the dialectical differences between the players on this year’s team aren’t as great as they are as they’d be in a call center situation—Mexican Spanish and a lot of Central and South American dialects are very different)

by morineko on Oct 28, 2010 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

and to not jokingly elaborate...

Villanueva’s been exiled to the bullpen which has been largely Anglo for years save for a few other guys who don’t stay long—so he’s had to pick up enough English there. Gallardo grew up in the States. They’re both pitchers. If the problem is “we need someone to keep Escobar and Gomez out of baseball trouble” it’s not going to be either of those two…there’s been speculation that one of the issues with Gomez with the Twins was that they didn’t have any Spanish-speaking coaches. I’m not sure Castro would have helped much with an outfielder.

by morineko on Oct 28, 2010 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just beause they don't hang out on the field doesnt' mean that they don't hang out off the field.

But yeah, as far as coaching goes, I doubt they’re helping each other much.

http://www.mlbsoup.com

by tcyoung on Oct 28, 2010 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sixto Lezcano?

He’s currently a coach in the Braves’ minors, maybe he’d like a shot. He’s also played in Japan, he’d probably get along with Valentine ;)

by nullacct on Oct 28, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's odd, I thought the problem with Gomez was he couldn't hit.

Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.

by cooper82 on Oct 28, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, that's escobar.

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by Mykenk on Oct 28, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought it was both.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Oct 28, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind having JDLR back.

Solid lefty with some nasty stuff. We sat so long on Parra, wouldn’t mind a good power south paw. Although, not like there needs to be another lefty in the rotation, but a way better signing than Davis, and most likely pretty cheap. Save a little money and pick up a bigger FA arm. Rogers and Jeffress aren’t ready to start yet.

by Mr. McGehee on Oct 27, 2010 11:31 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Too much $$

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by Mykenk on Oct 27, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty cheap?

What makes you say that? The Rockies weren’t able to sign him to an extension.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Oct 27, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cheap isn't a word I'd use.

You have to commit over $20M & cough up a pick to get a guy without much of a good track record.

by klwillis45 on Oct 27, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope, wouldn't get it done.

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by Mykenk on Oct 27, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he was willing to take that, he'd still be a Rockie.

Rumor has it he wants five years.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 27, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

5 years seem a little too much

considering he has been playing like a mid-rotation pitcher for the last 2 seasons and being awful for the rest

by ilikeburritos on Oct 27, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what the Rockies thought too.

And, what all of the rest of baseball will think. He’ll eventually get a 2 or 3 year deal probably from someone who over-values him.

I just hope it isn’t from Doug Melvin.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 27, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

This just in, Japan is weird.

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by Mykenk on Oct 27, 2010 11:42 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Did we just hire Bobby Valentine?

#facepalm
#pleaseno

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by Mykenk on Oct 27, 2010 11:56 AM CDT reply actions  

THwitter:

Bill Scott of Wisconsin Radio Network says Brewers have agreement in principle with Bobby Valentine to be manager. I’m looking into it.

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by Mykenk on Oct 27, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not surprised

and mildly disappointed.

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by Mykenk on Oct 27, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't like it.

LOVE IT.

I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.

by Rubie Q on Oct 27, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Fanshat

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by Mykenk on Oct 27, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

As of noon,

they reported on 620 WTMJ that the Brewers reached an agreement in principle with Bobby Valentine to be the new manager of the Brewers.

Not sure want.

by Bush League All Star on Oct 27, 2010 12:03 PM CDT reply actions  

incredible.

Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.

by theBrouhaha on Oct 27, 2010 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love the article

I don’t think it’s a warning though. It’s more like, who the hell knows what’s going to happen. It’s too bad that McCovey chronicles comments seem to have deteriorated a lot, I tried reading the thread but it was hard to do though. You should be excited though, aren’t the Giants your team?

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Oct 27, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

More my wifes team

I love watching Lincecum, but I dont think they are going to win it.

McCovey is a litle tough to read sometimes, they are pretty wacky over there with the comments.

by backtocali on Oct 27, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dodgers?

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Oct 27, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

He doesn't have one.

He’s “a fan of baseball”. He posts here because the Brewers are in the closest proximity to him, so he gets the most news, etc. about them.

This has all been hashed and rehashed.

by Noah Jarosh on Oct 27, 2010 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

the comments

I can’t read there any longer. I was lurking there for years before I bothered to sign up (oddly enough, the day Wellemeyer got hurt, which explains part of why I don’t post there any longer either) and I don’t get it, why people complain that the team is so bad when they’re in the World Series ffs and I can go look here, or even worse at the Diamondbacks board where the teams are not very good at all and the fans are more optimistic, or at the least excited about the prospects. When the fans of the 3rd-worst team in MLB aren’t as down as the ones of the NL pennant winner…it’s just bizarro fandom to me.

by morineko on Oct 28, 2010 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

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