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He'll make $1.5 million in 2010. Haudricourt notes that that's a $400,000 raise.

over 1 year ago Newavatar_tiny Kyle Lobner 21 comments 0 recs  | 

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$66.476M. I was high on Gomez by $250k.

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by Charlie Marlow on Dec 18, 2010 10:15 AM CST reply actions  

Smaller raise than Kevin Mench got after his 2006 train wreck.

I never use a big word when a diminutive word would suffice.

by TheJay on Dec 18, 2010 10:23 AM CST reply actions  

I appreciate that after years and years of covering the game, Haudricourt still acts surprised when guys get raises in the arbitration process.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Dec 18, 2010 11:35 AM CST reply actions  

The general disapproval surprises me

More of a general complaint – people seem to complain about the arbitration system when a bad player gets a modest raise but have no problems when good players get league minimum under the same system.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Dec 18, 2010 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I recognize that it's a small picture approach

But regardless of what you use to justify it, the fact that a player was worth -0.2 WAR and got a 25+% raise is probably always going to be met with some headshaking.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Dec 18, 2010 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I see your point

Any time someone gets a raise when they played poorly it looks bad on the surface, but any head shaking about it ignores how the arbitration system works.

The raise Gomez gets is a result of his initial salary being limited by MLB in the first place. If he had made $3MM last year, and his salary was reduced to $1.5MM, he’d make the same amount but people would be happy that he got a big time pay cut.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Dec 18, 2010 12:44 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I wish I could completely suck at my job,

only work part time, and get a > 25% pay increase in pay every year.

I think the arbitration process in baseball is really stupid.
Even though he clearly doesn’t deserve a raise he would have most likely gotten an even larger one in arbitration.

That’s why people hate it when crappy players get raises.
Because people know those players don’t deserve it and people relate that to their own lives.

If you have a co-worker who is so bad at his job that they send him home early half the time, brings nothing useful to your workplace and generally sucks at his job, he doesn’t get a raise. He get’s fired.

For your health!

by menchkins on Dec 18, 2010 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I think it sucks that McGehee is only making what he is

but that isn’t the point.
The point is that Gomez doesn’t deserve a raise of any sort. Period.

I see absolutely no reason why he should be making more than league minimum.

People should be paid for performance, I feel that’s ow it should be in every industry.
If you do a good job, you get a raise, if you suck at your job you don’t get a raise and if you suck enough, you get fired.

The dollar amounts have nothing to do with it it’s just a matter of principle.

For your health!

by menchkins on Dec 19, 2010 4:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

but then again, these clowns are getting paid millions of dollars to play a game. It’s not really a job. It’s not really representative of the american workplace.

I can’t stand when people get upset that crappy players get raises yet still tolerate the insanity of the salary system in the first place.

Baseball’s not a job. Don’t let them tell you it is. The contracts aren’t anything like tradition labor agreements, the negotiations are totally different than real world salary negotiation.

Good for Carlos. He’s talented enough to have gotten him into this system that rewards grown men for being children for the rest of their life. Yeah, I’m jealous. No, I don’t hate the fact that he got a raise. The money involved in this industry is so stupid that it doesn’t make any sense to get outraged over a player getting a .5M raise, when there’s another player getting paid 28M a year. Whole thing is insane, not based in reality, and not worth getting upset over.

Twitterize me: @mykenk

by Mykenk on Dec 18, 2010 1:08 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

i dont really want to argue about salaries but....

Players are constantly traveling…play 10 times the games football players play…and most careers are over by a players mid thirties. You can’t really compare it to an office job

I only watch the games for Taiilgate Tips.

by jmag043 on Dec 18, 2010 1:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed 100%

I’m not trying to compare it, I’m saying it’s silly to get upset about things, because they’re not comparable to what you and I deal with.

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by Mykenk on Dec 18, 2010 2:04 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

But you can't really compare it to football either.

If nothing else, the risk of life-altering injury is much less.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Dec 18, 2010 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Also, these aren't crappy players.

They may be crappy by the standards of the rest of the major leagues, but they are still in the top 1% or whatever of baseball players/athletes in the world.

I don’t think athletes should make what they do (then again, the owners don’t really deserve all the profits either) but if we’re linking salary to talent, all of these players are extremely talented.

Shaun and Yo and pray for snow.

by SRB on Dec 18, 2010 2:39 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

The disapproval surprises you?

Haudricourt disapproves of the weather.

Twitterize me: @mykenk

by Mykenk on Dec 18, 2010 3:04 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Cheap!

When you consider the average MLB ballplayer is over 3 million. As for Hardicourt, to quote Issac Asimoz, critic are like eunuchs in a harem, they can study and analyze all they want but they can’t do it.

by joeybal56 on Dec 18, 2010 4:15 PM CST reply actions  

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