Thursday's Frosty Mug
Some things to read while waiting in line.
Unless NASA announces they've found aliens, today's big story is likely to be tonight's 10:59 deadline for the Brewers to tender contracts to their eight arbitration-eligible players. Here's one last look at what people are saying about the possibilities:
- Adam McCalvy and Tom Haudricourt both have player-by-player looks at the decisions to be made.
- MLB Trade Rumors is still listing Joe Inglett and Todd Coffey as non-tender candidates, but not Carlos Villanueva, Carlos Gomez or Manny Parra.
- Brewers Daily makes the case for bringing back Coffey.
Yesterday I asked for your opinions on what the Brewers should do. Here are the results:
| Player | Tender | Non-Tender | Undecided |
| Todd Coffey | 40% | 47% | 13% |
| Joe Inglett | 45% | 46% | 8% |
| Carlos Gomez | 54% | 38% | 8% |
| Carlos Villanueva | 58% | 30% | 12% |
| Manny Parra | 78% | 15% | 7% |
| Kameron Loe | 92% | 6% | 2% |
| Prince Fielder | 95% | 4% | 1% |
| Rickie Weeks | 98% | 2% | 0% |
The Brewers are still interested in working out a long-term deal with Weeks, but apparently they're having a hard time getting his agent (Greg Genske) to answer the phone. As such, the team knows Weeks is interested in discussing a deal but don't know what he's looking for in terms of money.
Earlier this week I mentioned Ryan Braun's nomination for Best Play in the This Year in Baseball Awards. As it turns out, I missed something important there: John Axford points out that he's a nominee for Top Rookie, Trevor Hoffman is a nominee for Best Moment and Casey McGehee is a nominee for Breakout Performer.
Elsewhere in awards: Matt Klaasen of FanGraphs named Corey Hart and Casey McGehee as Honorable Mentions in his 2010 Carter-Batista Awards, given annually to the players whose RBI totals most distort their actual value.
In the minors: Congratulations to Helena first baseman Cody Hawn, who made Topps' All-Star team for short season and rookie leagues.
Around baseball:
Astros: Re-signed pitcher Nelson Figueroa to a one year, $900,000 deal.
Diamondbacks: Signed outfielder Wily Mo Pena to a minor league deal.
Giants: Re-signed outfielder Pat Burrell to a one year deal.
Padres: Signed outfielder Chris Denorfia to a one year deal, avoiding arbitration, and will non-tender outfielders Scott Hairston and Tony Gwynn, Jr.
Pirates: Signed infielder Andy Marte, pitcher Fernando Nieve and catcher Dusty Brown to minor league deals.
White Sox: Infielder Alexei Ramirez has declined his player option for 2011. The team still holds an option for $2.5 million.
Yankees: Re-signed pitcher Sergio Mitre to a one year, $900,000 deal.
Relevant to nothing: I think "Dusty Brown" might be one of the more fitting names I've ever seen for a minor league catcher.
Today in former Brewers:
- Brian Shouse is calling it a career. Despite appearing in just 13 major league games before his 33rd birthday, Shouse finished his career with 467 appearances over ten major league seasons with six teams.
- Jim Edmonds, meanwhile, is stretching the decision out a little more. Edmonds' agent told Jon Heyman that his client's 2011 plans change week to week.
Looking for a reason to oppose plans to expand the playoffs to ten teams in 2012? Here's an easy one: Big League Stew has the list of teams that would have made the playoffs over the last sixteen seasons under this format, and the Brewers didn't net one extra appearance.
Projection season won't be quite the same this year, as we're going to be forced to do it without CHONE. As Bucs Dugout noted, CHONE creator Sean Smith has signed on with an unnamed team and won't be releasing his forecasts this year.
Looking for an internship for this spring? The Brewers are looking for one to work with their Community Foundation.
Happy birthday today to Helena Brewer Michael Melillo, who turns 23.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going back to looking at things. (h/t Dave Brown)
Drink up.
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Wow major bummer for me about CHONE
but great news for Sean Smith. Gotta feel good when ‘one of our own’ gets a gig with a team.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
I based loads of my fantasy league choices on CHONE this year
Hello Javier Vazquez, James Shields, Nick Markakis, Jason Bay, Julio Borbon, Jose Lopez. Also hello to finishing in the bottom half of most of my leagues.
I’m entirely blaming Sean Smith rather than my drafting abilities…
"I hope your name is Rick"
I've done it the last two years
I’ve finished 1st and 2nd both years in the league that I use it.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
right there with u
a combination of chone and pecota led to an end of the year 21 total points in a 10 team 5×5 league. Lets see how ZIPS does this year
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
Speaking about ZIPS
Brewers for 2011 are “looking a very .500 team”: http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/oracle/discussion/2010_zips_projections_-_milwaukee_brewers/
"I hope your name is Rick"
I always liked Baseball Prospectus
It has for the past two seasons help me find a new pitcher with huge upside as a result of their work….Max Scherzer in 09 and Mat Latos last year. Cant wait to find out who it will be this year. Id say the subscription price is definitely worth what they provide over there.
My 1000th post!
A couple of days ago I noticed that I was coming up for 1,000th post on BCB. As a result, I’ve done a bit of research over the last few hours (thanks to the sub-zero temperatures keeping me off work!) to examine exactly what I’ve posted on over the months since I first came to this site. So, while noting that this post rivals anything Ryan Braun has ever done in terms of narcissism, here’s the results…
10% Comments about Russell Branyan (subset of "comments about Russell Branyan with vague homoerotic undertones" also equals 10%).
9% TWSS posts. Further analysis shows that, while each "TWSS" may or may not have been amusing, exactly none of them reflected the reality of my life. Unless I missed a "TWSS" I posted in reply to my girlfriend complaining on BCB that I spend "miles too much time on that stupid baseball and never do any housework"…
7% Saying "Recced" after Nullact posts
6% Linguistic problems. Includes repeatedly looking like an idiot due to my continuing inability to remember that "football" in America is not the same thing as it is over here
6% Relatively pointless Home Run posts – "Brauntosaurus Rex!", "McGeeeeheeeeee!", "Rickiiee!", "Corey/Caveman!".
5% "WOW~!" posts
5% Theological discussions (Pujols, Counsell)
5% Reply fails
5% Posts dedicated to the excellence of Trevor Hoffman (2009)
5% Unamusing posts "subtly" pointing out to anyone who didn’t notice that, if you look really closely, Prince Fielder is, hmmm, kinda on the large side…
4% Attempts at own sabermetric research that are easily refuted by someone within 5 minutes
4% Discussion about recipes. Primarily about correct way of cooking rhubarb.
3% Recycling jokes from @notKenMacha
3% Comments about beer, homebrew and alcohol. This also includes all posts I’ve made about Tony LaRussa. And Dikembe.
3% Pointing fun at Braun’s fashion sense (while keeping quiet that I come from a country where the main fashion icons are Groundskeeper Willie, The Proclaimers, and this pair: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/theatre/3559419/My-week-Janette-from-The-Krankies.html)
2% Detailed, well thought-out and serious commentary relating to baseball (would have been 0% had I not deliberately widened the category to include all the posts I made about Ryan Braun’s restaurant yesterday)
2% Posts where I make some hideously awful mistake, e.g. totally forgetting about the difference between the American and National Leagues
2% Arguing with Cubs fans ("kicking a drunk passed out in an alley" as ZTK correctly puts it). Mainly about 30 posts on the Jake Fox walk bases-loaded walk a year or so ago. To those who claim that hindsight shows this was a waste of time I’d reply that the loss that day eventually stopped us finishing 81-81 instead of 80-82. Enough said.
2% Deliberately posting something other than "Recced" after a Nullact post. Just to keep him on his toes, y’know…
2% Attempts to authenticate claims that Corey Hart’s frequent baserunning errors are due solely to his neolithic brain not yet understanding which order 1st, 2nd and 3rd bases come in.
2% Statements suggesting we should definitely keep Manny Parra only subsequently to argue the exact opposite after he implodes in his next start
2% Poking fun at American politics. Because, in case you never noticed, politicians in the UK are all intellectual giants and not responsible at all for a huge recession…
2% Attempts during last summer to divert conversation to the World Cup in pointless effort to prove I actually do know something about sport…
1% Unsuccessful efforts to introduce nicknames for Brewers, e.g. Todd "Espresso" Coffey, Kameron "Crap Pants" Loe (don’t ask…)
1% Joining in discussions about some local place in Milwaukee that I feel perfectly able to comment on despite a) having never been there, b) not knowing anyone who’s ever been there, c) not having a clue what or where exactly it is
1% Attempts at own sabermetric research that are not easily refuted by someone within 5 minutes (due primarily to posting at times when everyone in the US is asleep).
1% Puerile discussion with NoahJ about fancying "Plunk Everyone" (leading to entirely correct telling-off from said HBP expert)
0% Relatively pointless Home Run posts – "Gomez!".
0% Posts dedicated to the excellence of Trevor Hoffman (2010)
I did begin to search through my personal records to take the alternative approach of assessing the amount of time I’d spent reading various types of article on BCB before realising that at least 80% of the countless hours I’ve spent on this site can solely be put down to the days it took to read that monster 1000+ post involving Bucks…
"I hope your name is Rick"
by MrLeam on Dec 2, 2010 10:26 AM CST reply actions 11 recs
I too share a great number of posts about the Grand Branyan
Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.
by theBrouhaha on Dec 2, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
in celebration of your post, I will post my 4872nd comment
and remark on how I’ve spent WAAAAY too much time here.
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
amateurs
12023 12024
also way too much time
by PagsBrewCrew on Dec 2, 2010 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
between you, The Jay and Rouge Jim
I’m sure you could pass 50K, or Mykenk’s total alone.
#shrugitty
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
4198
My comment frequency has plummeted since the fall semester started. Hopefully I’ll have a little more time for baseball during winter break.
My goodness.
by BrewHaHeather on Dec 2, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
I was upset at 3480
But everyone else is still hundreds past me, so I’m safely not obscenely obsessive. That’s what I’m telling myself anyway. And besides, how many of those were just describing how great tasting that thar chicken was?
With only 4 “posts” I have to be near the top of the leaderboard, if not the top, for the Most Prolific Poster That Adds No Original Content To The Site. Just call me Mr. MoProPANOrCoTTS.
Minecraft is like digital Legos. I like digital things and I like Legos. I am now addicted to Minecraft.
by ecocd on Dec 2, 2010 8:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow, I have 5492 comments and 43 threads
of mostly forgettable material. Huh.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 2, 2010 9:01 PM CST up reply actions
I'm glad to know I'm not the only one
still upset about that Jake Fox bases-loaded walk.
My goodness.
by BrewHaHeather on Dec 2, 2010 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
Oh, I remember BUCKS
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 2, 2010 9:00 PM CST up reply actions
ROFLCOPTER?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 2, 2010 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
hopefully we won't read about him sending shots of his nads
to a Red’s front office employee in 2 years.
by PagsBrewCrew on Dec 2, 2010 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
wheres the savior shouse?
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
DISREPECTFUL!
We all know that Poo-holes is the saviour
by BrewCrewBrian on Dec 2, 2010 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
I love how Councell is the ref.
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
By the way, for any newer people to BCB or who didn't know about it
Credit where credit is due: The Unofficial Brian Shouse Fan Club.
im newer kind of
I have been reading for a whole MBL season, but I just started to post.
heard back from one of the authors already
she can’t talk about it for about 2 hours still:P
Her contribution is in the Journal “Science”
by PagsBrewCrew on Dec 2, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
word on the blags is
it’s the arsenic based life found in mono lake that is the crux of the announcement. which if it is, i’m stoked.
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Dec 2, 2010 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
heard arsenate
instead of phosphate for nucleic acids, etc. in any case, having trouble connecting to nasa’s server ATM. I guess a few other people are trying to look at it too
yep, arsenate for metabolic functions
but more importantly, arsenic instead of phosphorous for it’s genetic backbone.
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Dec 2, 2010 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
reported 2 day replication time is impressive
but I’ll be more impressed if I see a mass spec signature lacking P. Looks like they just eliminated the most common bioavailable P source, but not all P.
the other question is is the Arsenate incorporation transient or does it stay in through a replication cycle – ie, can the arsenate-backbone DNA be replicated? transcribed into RNA? is there evidence for As in the RNA pool, or just DNA?
I was looking on sciencemag.org and don’t see the paper up there yet, so it all seems like everyone is just speculating other than the authors…and they’re obviously going to make it sound like the best thing since sliced bread.
I'd always wondered
what type of complete space-cadetery would be necessary to be called a “nerd” by sabermetrically-oriented baseball fans…
"I hope your name is Rick"
i'm reading through the paper itself
looks like the growth media contained nearly no phosphorous:
“The background PO4 (3-) in the medium was 3.1 (± 0.3) μM on average” while the final plate concentration was 5 mM AsO4 (3-)
so i would venture that the arsenate is replicated if those replication times are accurate and the medium is as devoid of phosphate as their dilutions allowed.
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Dec 2, 2010 1:56 PM CST up reply actions
have the paper, but haven't had a chance to read it yet
is that free phosphate? in the supplied media (as contamination of the salts)? or did they assay the total amount (ie, tied up in biomolecules)? How many replication cycles did they grow the bugger? Or is it “we had it double 5 times and then it died”. Was there a slowing of its replication over time as it got more and more diluted?
Is it an axenic culture?
trying searches in the manuscript for phrases
“we centrifuged the cells and re-suspended the pellet in PBS”
This whole sub-thread makes me feel like a fucking idiot.
Thanks guys.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 2, 2010 9:05 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah I figured as much
still, when you’re talking serious hard-core science stuff like this, I have no idea. General concepts and principles? Sure. Human dietary evolution? I’m all about it.
is that free phosphate? in the supplied media (as contamination of the salts)? or did they assay the total amount (ie, tied up in biomolecules)? How many replication cycles did they grow the bugger? Or is it "we had it double 5 times and then it died". Was there a slowing of its replication over time as it got more and more diluted?
Nope. No way.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 2, 2010 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
So it is not a technical term then
I think that’s what was tripping me up!
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 2, 2010 9:56 PM CST up reply actions
i am one of the aforementioned "nerds"
also i work in medical research now, so it’s kinda my bag too.
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Dec 3, 2010 7:52 AM CST up reply actions
thanks for the greatest OT thread ever
well, at least one of them. I can follow it (mostly) and my acquaintance who’s doing a biology doctorate at U of MA-Amherst w/astrobiology concentration hasn’t posted to her journal about it yet so I have to read the discussion here XD
This is unreal for a number of reasons
Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.
Totally agree that the US doesn't deserve it again so soon.
Especially considering that soccer is more popular in just about every other country in the world.
My goodness.
by BrewHaHeather on Dec 2, 2010 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
Speaking of my favorite (non BCB) baseball website
Baseball Prospectus has an article posted today regarding small moves that could/might/should be made next week where teams deal from a position of surplus for needs and they mention 2 very interesting deals (one directly related to the Brewers).
The writer Christina Karhl says the Rays trade James Shields to the Brewers for Gamel and Parra. She cites the Rays depth at pitching and need for salary relief as well as opening a spot in the rotation for Jeremy Hellickson, and Gamel as a positionless player whose bat may be better suited to DH/AL and Parra as a guy with great stuff who the Brewers cant really get a handle on.
I would put Shields’ value at about $10 million surplus, but if the Brewers didnt unloade him before the remaining two years of his contract, that value drops. Shields has a contract through 2014 with the last 3 years of the deal having club options with buyouts attached. I would rate Gamel at around $5.5 million surplus value, and Parra at around that same value. Might not be a bad trade for the Brewers, probably improves them by a couple of wins as he slides in front of Randy Wolf in the #3 spot in the rotation.
The other note referenced the A’s dealing Kevin Kouzmanoff to the Orioles for Nolan Reimold. I’ve become a big fan of Kouz this off season and if he were available, say in a McGehee/Cain for Kouzmanoff/Cahill type of deal the Brewers should be all over that.
This should probably be it's own fanpost.
This is an interesting an idea – I have been arguing to trade for Ray’s pitching for the last couple years.
But the question that becomes if it will actually make a difference?
by BrewCrewBrian on Dec 2, 2010 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
Shields has been on a downward trend for the past few years
But then again, so has Gamel and Parra…
I’d make that trade just for the possibility of pitching help.
My goodness.
by BrewHaHeather on Dec 2, 2010 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
He had some awful luck last year
Something like a .350 babip against. k numbers up while everything else stayed about the same.
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"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 2, 2010 9:06 PM CST up reply actions
Huh. I guess I just assumed he was still playing in the majors the last couple years.
So I looked at the last year on B-Ref and it said he’s 26, but that was 2008. Whoops.
Still.
That’s 1 backup infielder? Not to mention Counsell sucks at 3b. Counsell can be the backup MIF, but I still think we need someone for the CIF. Unless Inglett comes back to do 2B + 1B and Counsell takes 3B + SS, but everytime Counsell plays 3b I die a little inside.
Twitterize me: @mykenk
For what it's worth:
Eric Hinske career 3B UZR: -10.4
Casey McGehee career 3B UZR: -11.5
Craig Counsell career 3B UZR: 26.8
lets be fair
and only consider each for the last 3-5 or 10 years. Doesn’t seem fair to consider Counsell in his youth. Then again, he does appear ageless
UZR the last 4 years at 3B
2007: +6.7 runs
2008: -0.3
2009: +1.4
2010: -0.5
Gives you average defense at 3B, but agree with Mykenk that he’s much better utilized in the MI and the Brewers would be better served to get more of a bat who can cover a corner position.
Get a ife broseph
CDIx/Gomez and Boggs?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 2, 2010 9:07 PM CST up reply actions
A Dubs at dinner tonight at RBWG?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 2, 2010 9:09 PM CST up reply actions
good for him
I got to watch him play, since he was in High School at the same time, and I lived a town over in Neenah. Good guy, Good player.
By the way Mykenk I am staking you on Twitter lol
I was thinking
more like that red head, that was with Manson.
Do you mean Evan Rachel Wood?
She’s a bottle red-head… and I don’t think she’s a wiccan either.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
did you get better?
tough to tell on the internet and all. they have talking lizards on TV commercials after all, so why not typing amphibians on the internet?
Is that a vampire reference?
I’m not in to that whole Twilight or the HBO series whatever it is.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 2, 2010 9:09 PM CST up reply actions
One less desination for Fielder
White Sox sign Adam Dunn, per LA Times, per Dave Cameron of Fangraphs.
Nice going Doug. Don’t let the door break your ass on your way back to Canada.
No Doubt
It’s pretty amazing. He’s got the league’s best young power hitter on the market for over a year and can’t find one good trade? Seriously, 29 other general managers said “I’m sorry, we have no place on our team for a young slugger coming into his prime with 50+ HR power, and there isn’t anything we’re willing to offer you for his services in excess of the risky compensation picks you will receive next year when, theoretically, he signs as a free agent with someone else.” ..?
What. The. Hell.
Yes, now
I think the main contention here is that many, MANY people thought the Brewers should have moved Fielder prior to the 2010 season. At least that’s what irritates me the most.
I know all the caveats:
Who really knows blah blah blah.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 2, 2010 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
Adrian Gonzalez probably would have not been available at that point.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 2, 2010 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
Adrian Gonzales probably folds his underwear too
And Adrian Gonzales never ever forgets a teammate’s birthday and Adrian Gonzales is loved by all his neighbors and their children and pets and sings with perfect pitch and is the perfect gentleman and
WHAT THE HELL DOES IT TAKE TO TRADE A FAT GUY WHO HITS CRAPLOADS OF HOME RUNS
JESUS H PUJOLS
I sense you disagree with me.
Should I say “agree to disagree”? Or should we keep up this whimsical one-line-answer party?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 3, 2010 9:31 AM CST up reply actions
More desirable, and more expensive.
Because of the cost that the Padres could demand, Prince may become/have been more ‘desirable’ all along.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
I guess I'm in the minority
Because I didn’t think they should’ve moved Fielder before 2010.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
by sjlee on Dec 3, 2010 9:47 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Admission is the first step in recovery.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 3, 2010 9:26 PM CST up reply actions
Well, when the White Sox or whoever can sign a guy who will give them 40 HR without giving up anything but money
I think it would be tough to trade them a guy who will give them 40 HR for prospects or MLB players.
I never use a big word when a diminutive word would suffice.
That is true
But the Sox deal is reportedly 4 years $56 million.
If they had traded for Fielder they probably would have had to dish out $16 for 2011 and perhaps had lost a player or two with values of about $20 million. So for the short term, trading for Fielder, even if it meant a one for one type of deal involving Gavin Floyd, dealing for Fielder would have been a less expensive proposition for them overall.
And then they would have been stuck looking for a trade or FA next year
I never use a big word when a diminutive word would suffice.
Yup
Major loss for the Brewers there on both ends.
I was hoping they’d trade with the White Sox and also sign Dunn.
I’m getting the sneaking suspicion that our team is going to look nearly exactly like it did last year and will perform just as lousy.
For your health!
This is a 'sneaking suspicion' for you?
It neither sneaks, nor is it a suspicion for me.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 2, 2010 9:12 PM CST up reply actions
off of yahoo about
INF/OF Joe Inglett(notes) was not tendered a contract for 2011. Inglett led the majors with 20 pinch hits but had only one homer and eight RBI in 142 at-bats. General manager Doug Melvin said he would look for a bench player with more power.
WTF you dont need a pinch hitter with power, most of the time he moves they players over in the 8 or 9 hole
I think that's just talk.
Melvin also said that he’s keeping in touch with his agent and hoping to re-sign him for a lower amount.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
It's nice to have somebody with power to throw in there at the end of a game, when nobody's on.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
Craig Counsell power!
I think we should trade with KC to get kendall back on our bench.
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