Quotes from Zack Greinke's introductory press conference
by Kyle Lobner on Dec 20, 2010 3:19 PM CST
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PrintThanks to Colin Fly for passing along his transcript from today. Here are some of Greinke's more notable quotes:
On including Milwaukee on his no-trade list:
Well, I mean, we put that list together pretty fast and the way I was kind of thinking about it at the time, is Prince, who is a very good player, knew he just had one year left and didn’t know if they were planning on trading him or what the plan of Milwaukee was this offseason. I kind of wanted to see if they were going to try to restock a little bit, it wouldn’t have been one of my first choices. But when they decided to keep Prince and traded for Marcum, it ended up, I would’ve put them in the Top three teams I wanted to get traded to. And you could always change It one way, you can always change it to put them on, you can’t change it to take them off.
On finding out he was coming to Milwaukee:
For me, it was great. When I found out about it, I told my wife, it was probably the happiest I’ve been 10 years ago since I was drafted in baseball. I was happy when we got married, too. That was the other Top 3.
On what he knows about the Brewers:
Not a ton, I know that they’ve got some really good offense on the team and they seem to have like an attitude about them, and I kind of like that. And Kendall came over to Kansas City from this place and he was great for our team. I’m assuming that he got some of his attitude from being in this organization.
On his connection to Rickie Weeks and Prince Fielder:
No, I haven’t talked to anyone. It’s kind of cool, I see Rickie, he lives in Orlando and I live in Orlando. I see him probably once or twice every offseason and usually it’s the other way, I’ve been trying to get the Royals to trade for him for a couple of years and always, always thought we’d end up playing together because we live like 5 minutes from each other, but never really ended up playing together and so it’s kind of cool it’s going to happen that way. Played with Prince a couple of times too, he lives in Orlando, also.
On the Brewers' World Series chances:
Not really thinking that big because the division’s still pretty tough. I’m sure the other teams are good too, but St. Louis and Cincinnati are really good teams and I don’t know, it’ll be tough just to get there, so if you’re not first place, you’ve got to win the Wild Card. That’s probably tough, too. I don’t have much playoff experience, so I don’t know how it all works. I’m just hoping to get there first.
On hitting:
That’s a big plus. I’ve always wanted to be in the National League for that reason. It’s just fun, got to hit in Atlanta last year and got to break up a double play at second. It’s just more fun playing that way.
Thanks again to Colin (@cfly) for sharing notes with us.
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"On the NL Central"
the Q was about the world series (or playoffs) so either change the lead-in or delete the first sentence/phrase?
I literally want to go out to the bars with Greinker
He’s hilarious.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
This guy might very quickly become my favorite Brewer.
I just love honest players.
by Cheeseandcorn on Dec 20, 2010 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
You fall in love fast, kid.
I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.
You say that to all the anonymous Internet girls you've never met.
I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.
Contrasted to Ben Sheets who wouldn't have brought a bat to the plate if it were legal
I wonder how fun it will be when he’s hitting .150, because, you know, MLB pitchers are really good at pitching. Eh, maybe it’ll still be fun. CC had loads of fun at it, too. And Marcum is a converted shortstop, right? He should be able to swing the bat somewhat too. Anyone up for Weeks getting even more RBI this year than last?
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Wolf and Narveson can hit too (and obviously Gallardo could probably play OF if he wanted)
We could have a really good hitting rotation, which is something that even sabermetrics people never seem to talk about when discussing pitchers. Compare Gallardo and Halladay last year: for pitching, Gallardo had 4.6 fWAR versus Halladay’s 6.6 fWAR. But if you add in their batting value (+0.5 vs. -1.2) it’s 5.1 fWAR versus 5.4 fWAR. If Gallardo had thrown a few more innings, his bat would have made him more valuable than Cy Young Roy Halladay.
Across an entire rotation, competent hitting can really add up in terms of value.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
Sample size mostly, I think
I think the bat would get more attention if not for the small sample size. Statheads don’t get excited by a pitcher’s defensive value, either, even though it can have an impact on the game.
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I don't see why they don't though
WAR is a backward-looking evaluative stat as it is, so why is a NL pitcher’s hitting in a given year completely ignored for the most part? Halladay cost his team 1.2 WAR by being a terrible hitter last year.
We probably can’t expect Gallardo to be a .363 wOBA hitter going forward, given the small 2010 sample size, but there’s no denying that’s what his value was.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
Awesome quotes
Now I just can’t wait for the obligatory presser to introduce our new starting shortstop.
Oh wait, you mean he wasn’t the centerpiece to this trade?
by Infield Fly Rule on Dec 20, 2010 3:48 PM CST reply actions
What a rascal
Let the untucking commence
by nullacct on Dec 20, 2010 3:54 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Love this Greinke quote
I’d say the average person wouldn’t eat a Chipotle burrito and still do his running, full speed, like me. That’s why they call me special.
Also, this interview is AWESOME
How many times must we see this linked and quoted in one 24-hour period?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 20, 2010 5:06 PM CST up reply actions
and that's basically his least-awesome quote
by PagsBrewCrew on Dec 20, 2010 5:29 PM CST up reply actions
it's not even his best Chipotle quote
has Chipotle approached him about being a national spokesperson yet? Or do they figure they already have him now for free?
by PagsBrewCrew on Dec 20, 2010 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
All the Greinke-mania led me to brewers.com
And I ended up on the depth chart, and his name was sitting atop the rotation. For the first time, I really felt it was real. Zack Greinke is a Milwaukee Brewer.
I’m going to need a new pair of pants.
"We’re gonna gather our nuts, and find out what the squirrels… we’ll be right back." - Brian Anderson
by Rendezvous on Dec 20, 2010 4:42 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
I'm starting to feel much better about the trade
every passing moment I feel better about the trade.
I can't understand his thought process either
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 20, 2010 5:07 PM CST up reply actions
Actually
I was pretty darn neutral. I didn’t really hate or even disliked the trade one bit. I was excited that the Brewers got an über-awesome pitcher. At the same time I felt bad about the heavy cost that the Brewers had to pay.
by ilikeburritos on Dec 20, 2010 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
and then you saw that he likes burritos, too?
and then you fell in love.
by Capt Science on Dec 20, 2010 5:51 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
haha
loved his comments about burritos.
by ilikeburritos on Dec 20, 2010 5:57 PM CST up reply actions
You weren't neutral, you said "I don't like it" in the other thread.
but then you didn’t really have a reason why.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 20, 2010 5:51 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't say that I didn't like it
I was just worried about what happens after the 2 years and I was showing more of a disappointment that Odorizzi had to leave rather than a disappointment in the trade. If Odorizzi wasn’t in the trade, then I would have been as excited as you guys
by ilikeburritos on Dec 20, 2010 5:56 PM CST up reply actions
Well, I guess I'm remembering wrong then.
If I get the motivation I’ll scroll through that thread and find your comments. I do remember you not responding to my questions about your preference over having a great shot at making the playoffs in 2011 and possibly 2012, and winning 75-85 games a year for the next 4 years. I don’t recall you having an answer for that. So that must be what it is that I’m thinking of.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 20, 2010 6:02 PM CST up reply actions
to answer that question(and I apologize for not answering sooner)
If the Brewers were a perennial 75-win team, then no I wouldn’t have been satisfied. if they were to be a playoff team 3-4 years later, then I wouldn’t have minded so much. Of course if the Brewers go to the playoffs with Greinke and they continue to be a playoff team, then I would be very happy with that. But if they were to fall into mediocrity after the 2 years, then I would be nervous.
by ilikeburritos on Dec 20, 2010 6:50 PM CST up reply actions
Expecting the Brewers, who reside in the smallest market in baseball, to be a perennial contender is setting yourself up to be disappointed more often than not
This is why I disagree with Doug Melvin’s tactics as a general manager. He runs the team like its a large market team. Its now got OV and SiTS whipped into a frenzy of “why have to be ‘in it’ every year!!111~”
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 20, 2010 8:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
of course I don't consider the Brewers to be perennial contenders
I have never in my life thought that the Brewers would go into a Yankees-esque run
by ilikeburritos on Dec 20, 2010 8:13 PM CST up reply actions
So you're saying to forget about the 'falling into mediocrity after 2 years' comment?
Because that is a more likely outcome than the opposite.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 20, 2010 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
touche
I am officially waving the white flag on this argument. I don’t really have much to argue about anymore
by ilikeburritos on Dec 20, 2010 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
Forgive and forget
When a brother has chosen to partake in the Kool Aid, we must all accept him anew.
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by ecocd on Dec 20, 2010 5:57 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
lets not kid ourselves here
he always wanted to come to milwaukee
btw, if it hasn't been mentioned
suck it, pavano! we didn’t want you anyway.
by Capt Science on Dec 20, 2010 5:52 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I would say the Grieker already has "folk-hero" status clinched
If he can become a baseball-hero at the same time, we’re going to really enjoy this ride
Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.
I love this guy
“There definitely will be flying cars, but whether there’ll be flying cars for most people to use, it’ll probably take a long time to straighten everything out, all the rules and hassles. It’ll take a while to figure out how to keep people from crashing into each other.”
ah…I’m sure it’s been quoted but still. Wow.
Now if I could only feel as confident in Melvin and Roenicke that Betancourt will be a good SS for us.
You can't because he can't.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 20, 2010 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
Great move by the Brewers
I’m not a Brewers fan perse, but kudos to the franchise for this acquisition. A one-two punch of Gallardo and Greinke to go along with a lineup that includes Weeks, Braun and one more year of Fielder is going to be good stuff.
But…the Brewers MUST address shortstop. Betancourt is horrendous both defensively and with the bat. No way the Brewers can say they are a playoff caliber team with Betancourt playing the most vital position on the diamond. And I don’t think that Brewer lineup can withstand Betancourt AND Gomez.
Jack Wilson in Seattle makes gobs of sense for the Brewers. Melvin needs to beg Attanasio for some more money to get a legtimate shortstop.
well...there is the argument
that YB won’t completely tank things – at least to the extent that can’t be covered by an occasional Counsell start. Then if we’re healthy and still in it by the all-star break, then he can trade and beg to get a better SS for the end of the season.
by PagsBrewCrew on Dec 20, 2010 8:51 PM CST up reply actions
The brewers lineup scored lots of runs
with Gomez, Escobar, and Lucroy (among other CF’ers, admittedly). Maybe we can hope (offensively) that Esky = Esky, and that Lucroys improvement covers the gap left by playing gomez all year.
Then again, maybe Gomez will lose the full-time gig and be a platoon player. Who knows? plenty of time to debate, I guess.
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I foolishly ventured to evil BCB for reactions
Some guy is saying that he’s a mid-rotation starter at best, and the Cubs had no need for the move because they have 5 quality starters already. Also, Milwaukee is a prime candidate for contraction, if Selig wasn’t commissioner.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
Al Yellon's site is awful
As a long suffering Cub fan I can tell you to ignore the garbage on that site. Yellon is lobbying for a job from the Cubs. Any “fan” who can say with a straight face that a rotation of Dempster, the manic depressive Zambrano, Wells, Pittsburgh castoff Gorzellaney and Silva is nuttier than squirrel excrement.
Looking forward to the Bears winning the NFC North this evening. Hopefully we can maim the diva Brett Favre in the process.
Kudos to the Brewers. You have done very well this offseason.
by whiskeydick on Dec 20, 2010 7:15 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Yes, I am glad that there are Cubs fans who acknowledge that place is horrible
He said he was “not impressed” with getting Greinke, and wondered why there were 2! fanshots on his site about another team acquiring a pitcher.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
seriously? Yellon doesn't think Greinke's a big deal?
I wouldn’t put such dumbness beyond the other members of that site, but have things decayed to the extent that he doesn’t see this as a serious improvement (in the short term) of his rivals to the north?
by PagsBrewCrew on Dec 20, 2010 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
I believe
that Greinke is a better hitter than Pena
Celebrating the addition of Greinke and mourning the loss of my man crush Cain
Brewers have NEVER had pitching
I’ve nominally followed the Brewers since the early days of Robin Yount. Throughout the history of this franchise in Milwaukee pitching has always been the weak link That’s why the trade for Greinke could go down as among the most meaningful developments in franchise history. Don’t fear the future, rather seize the present. Add a real shortstop and you guys can compete for a NL pennant in 2011.
by whiskeydick on Dec 20, 2010 7:11 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Best of luck with the NL Central
Hey there,
Phillies fan here, although not a fan of the team, I’ve always liked the Brewers at least. Best of luck with the NL Central, even though it’s quite possible the Phillies and Brewers will collide again soon, I’ve always liked the club (I think it’s the one alternate logo! The m/b glove and ball. So endearing, haha) and hope you guys do well this season. Just… Not TOO well. ;)
by JamesFromPhilly on Dec 20, 2010 7:12 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
Oh, and coming from a Yankees fan, this was a great deal for the Brewers. The NL Central should be fun to watch this year.
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by Brandon C. on Dec 20, 2010 7:27 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
i think if he hadn't, his wife would have taken notes from Tiger woods' wife;)
by PagsBrewCrew on Dec 20, 2010 8:55 PM CST up reply actions
I'm getting progressively more nervous about our SS position.
Love Greinke…but what is going to be behind him? Weeks is average defensively, Betancourt is below average, Fielder is average or below, and McGehee is average. Gomez is great, Hart is average to above average, and Braun is average.
Maybe Mike Mccarthy will come down to Spring Training and teach these guys the ‘fundamentals’?
The cubs will never expect the first baseman blitz package!
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by Jeo on Dec 21, 2010 8:08 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hart is average to above average?
That’s … kind.
by Cheeseandcorn on Dec 21, 2010 9:09 AM CST up reply actions
So is Braun is average.
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
Maybe just a little worried...
… about Greinke’s past mental problems. Roenicke seems like the sort of guy that could handle that, though.
Stats Are Wack.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Dec 20, 2010 7:52 PM CST reply actions
and Milwaukee isn't as media crazed as NYC
So I think he should be fine
by ilikeburritos on Dec 20, 2010 7:54 PM CST up reply actions
He'll be fine.
Ever since he got on medication, he’s been fine. And I’m pretty positive he’s still on it.
I remember seeing a quote from him saying he hasn't been off it for more than three days at a time.
He doesn’t like being off it, it makes him dizzy and, I think, gives him headaches.
Chris Dickerson for CF '11!
Betancourt optimism (err...anti-pessimism)?
Some quick calculations: the last two years Betancourt has had a really low BABIP (.256 and .267). Based on the expected BABIP stat (meant to correct for bad luck) we can extrapolate what his AVG, OBP, SLG and OPS would have been had his BABIP equaled his xBABIP (based on this)
Yuniesky’s xBABIP suggests that he should have had a line of .288/.315/.433/.748 last year, which gives a quick estimate of a .328 wOBA (based on (OBP*1.75+SLG)/3). That’s actually slightly above the league average wOBA (.321), giving Betancourt an expected wRAA of +3.58 versus the -10.1 he actually had.
Fangraphs uses a park adjusted wRAA for their final WAR calculating, but estimating with that unadjusted wRAA total would have made Yuniesky roughly 13-14 runs more valuable than he actually was. Keeping every other WAR component the same, that would have made him a 1.8-1.9 WAR player, which is not that terrible at all.
So, if you believe in xBABIP (and if I did the above calculations right) there is some reason to not feel awful about Betancourt going into 2011. I still don’t want him as the starting SS though. Definitely not.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
Its not his offense I'm concerned about...
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 20, 2010 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
Easier to swallow his terrible defense if he ends up having some net value overall though, I suppose.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
True
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 20, 2010 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly...
I don’t mind Betancourt off the bench, but if he’s starting I can’t see it going well. So who’s the best option then?
The Brewer's defense is pretty much a mess.
What do good pitchers do? Get ground balls.
Where do ground balls go? The infield.
McGehee, Betancourt, Weeks, and Fielder is sort of a terrible infield.
Stats Are Wack.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Dec 20, 2010 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
When he swings at whatever schlock the pitcher wants to throw him,
his BABIP is going to seem wacky. Dude is pure bad.
by Braunstalker on Dec 20, 2010 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
xBABIP takes into account things like plate discipline though. Betancourt had a BABIP around .300 the first few years of his career; its the the last two that are the aberration.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
No stat can take into account the extreme cases, though
It’s the nature of statistics. They’re designed to work well most of the time and be a little peculiar for oddball cases. Betancourt is an oddball case.
I posted in another thread some armchair analysis and he routinely gets weak contact due to making contact with practically everything. He had the second lowest walk percentage in all of baseball last year and was in the top 20% of K% (as in, low number of number of strike outs). If you could get a “contact rate”, I’m certain he’d be the top in the league. If you check out his spray chart, there’s a lot of balls to the left side of the infield.
Yuni will continue to have a very low BABIP, because his plate discipline is getting worse over time. He used to have some, but it’s terrible with no signs of getting better. I wouldn’t be surprised to see his OBP dip into the .275 range if given a full year to play. His BABIP will never match his xBABIP, because he’s one of those strange fringe cases like Andruw Jones.
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I disagree
He’s only had one and a half super-low BABIP seasons, there’s no reason to expect it to be so low going forward.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
I actually follow both teams since I grew up in Beer Town and live near KC now.
Attended the 82 and 85 World Series.
Zack and Yuni were my favorite Royals last year.
Zack loves to compete and challenge the best hitters with his best stuff rather than pitch around them. That did not always work so well in KC since they did not score much but with Milwaukee it should be fine. When Zack is in the zone he is the best pitcher in baseball. Brewer fans will enjoy watching him pitch.
Yuni is very good at sacrifices and had 16 HR hitting out of the 9 hole in KC. He will sometimes boot an easy play, but I have seen him make plays that no other major league shortstop could make. Yuni can be spectacular on defense. But don’t take my work for it – you will get to see him first hand.
Nice trade – With Zack Yuni Prince Braun Wolf Marcum Weeks McGehee Hart Ax and the rest I see Milwaukee contending for the World Series in 2011.
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
by WarWolf on Dec 20, 2010 8:25 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Has anybody looked at Betancourts wikipedia page?
The last line under the “Seattle Mariners” heading is:
When rearranged, the letters in Yuniesky Betancourt’s name can spell “batter nine you sucky”.
Chris Dickerson for CF '11!
by Noah Jarosh on Dec 20, 2010 10:05 PM CST reply actions 8 recs
Sadly, the Brewers pitching staff has a chance to outpeform him at the plate
He might be the #9 hitter even in the National League.
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Gallardo will be batting 6th...
Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.
For a real batter to bat ninth, he actually has to get on base.
Most of our pitchers might be able to get on base more than Batancourt. (yes I know this is a bit of a ridiculous statement)
by BrewCrewBrian on Dec 21, 2010 7:31 AM CST up reply actions
Kendall didn't get his attitude from the Brewers
He got it from LIFE man.
don't forget to brush your teeth.
by Drew C on Dec 20, 2010 10:19 PM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I hear Zack Greinke sleeps 8 hours a night!
Well, I guess he’s pretty normal when it comes to that…
Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.
A lot has been made of Greinkie having a "down year," or an "off year" in 2010.
Here are some quick stats on his 2010 season:
In 33 starts, he lasted through 6 or more innings in 28 of them. He pitched 7+ innings in 19 games. He went 8+ in 10 games. He pitched 3 Complete games.
21 of 33 starts were Quality Starts.
He’s a workhorse. He pitched 104.4 pitches per game. But he’s efficient. That comes out to 15.66 Pitches/IP. It doesn’t get much better than that.
The only reason he had a “down” year, is because his 2009 was so incredle.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
Did you see how horrible his shortstop was last year? That certainly had something to do w....
….shit.
by warwick5s on Dec 21, 2010 10:14 AM CST up reply actions 7 recs
once a post is green
there’s no need to post “rec” to get it noticed:P
by PagsBrewCrew on Dec 21, 2010 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
It was the second best ERA on the Brewers last season.
Plus, his 1.245 WHIP would’ve led the team.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Here are the facts. Yuni was 6th in HRs among all MLB SS’s in 2010 with 16.
He hit 9th all year on a weak hitting team in a ball park not easy to put up power numbers.
Play Yuni 2nd in the Brewers line up and he will produce 25.
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
O here are the leaders just fyi :
Player TEAM POS G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG
1. T Tulowitzki
COL SS 122 470 89 148 32 3 27 95 267 48 78 11 2 .381 .568 .315
2. J Uribe
SF SS 148 521 64 129 24 2 24 85 229 45 92 1 2 .310 .440 .248
3. H Ramirez
FLA SS 142 543 92 163 28 2 21 76 258 64 93 32 10 .378 .475 .300
4. A Ramirez
CWS SS 156 585 83 165 29 2 18 70 252 27 82 13 8 .313 .431 .282
5. A Gonzalez
TOR SS 85 328 47 85 25 1 17 50 163 17 65 1 0 .296 .497 .259
6. Y Betancourt
KC SS 151 556 60 144 29 2 16 78 225 23 64 2 3 .288 .405 .259
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
Here are the facts
Yuniesky Betancourt was among the league letters in name letters last year among shortstops. Put him in the Brewer line up and he will produce more letters per name than just about every other shortstop in the business.
1. Yuniesky Betancourt (19 letters)
2. Troy Tulowitzki (14 letters)
3. Hanley Ramirez (13 letters)
4. Alexei Ramirez (12 letters)
5. Alex Gonzalez (12 letters)
6. Juan Uribe (9 letters)
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
by Jordan M on Dec 21, 2010 9:04 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
You should use full names to get accurate results. Using the top shortstops based on depth charts on official team pages and full names on B-Ref:
1. Alexei Fernando Rodriguez Ramirez (28)
2. Miguel Odalis Martinez Tejada (26)
3. Clifton Randolph Pennington (25)
4. Yuniesky Perez Betancourt (24)
4.. Elvis Augusto Torres Andrus (24)
6. Troy Trevor Tulowitski (20) (Leader in alliteration)
6. Starlin DeJesus Castro (20)
6. Ronny Alexander Cedeno (20)
6. Jhonny Antonio Peralta (20)
10. Asdrubal Jose Cabrera (19)
10. Derek Sanderson Jeter (19)
12. Reid Michael Brignac (18)
12. Ryan Stewart Theriot (18)
12. James Calvin Rollins (18)
15. Clint Harold Barmes (17)
15. Jason Alan Bartlett (17)
17. Jack Eugene Wilson (16)
17. Tsuyoshi Nishioka (16)
17. Jose Bernabe Reyes (16)
20. Stephen Oris Drew (15)
20. James Jerry Hardy (15)
20. Erick Johan Aybar (15)
23. Paul Ryan Janish (14)
24. Hanley Ramirez (13)
24. Marcos Scutaro (13)
26. Yunel Escobar (12)
26. Rafael Furcal (12)
28. Ian M Desmond (11)
Somehow I ended up missing two. I’m not sure how, but I’m not going to try to find them because that took too long to do already.
by Noah Jarosh on Dec 21, 2010 11:43 PM CST up reply actions
Jason Bartlett's initials are rather punchy.
Stephen Drew’s initials could help re-turf a field.
Johnny Peralta’s initials are offensive.
Cliff Pennington’s initials are almost crap.
by Noah Jarosh on Dec 21, 2010 11:47 PM CST up reply actions
Also, it's interesting that latin players tend to have either a distinct advantage or disadvantage when it comes to letters in a name.
Certain players don’t have middle names, which hurts them, but certain nationalities use both the fathers surname and the mothers maiden name, which helps them.
by Noah Jarosh on Dec 21, 2010 11:48 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know what's up with Ian Desmond's middle name.
Everywhere I looked just had it listed as “M”
by Noah Jarosh on Dec 21, 2010 11:51 PM CST up reply actions
It might just be M.
I had a really good friend in High School whose middle name was just “B”
For your health!
all male friends?
or just prepubescent?
by PagsBrewCrew on Dec 22, 2010 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
Ah, I know the reason for that, too.
Anyway, Alcides Escobar is 14 letters. He has no middle name. Now who is the 30th?
I now know who I also missed—Alex Gonzalez who, as Jordan mentioned above, has 12 letters.
Neither player has a listed middle name.
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