Monday's Frosty Mug
Some things to read while cleaning out the inbox.
Another day, another chapter in the ongoing "Corey Hart thinks he's worth WHAT?" saga. The Brewers have reportedly pulled their offer off the table and now expect to go to arbitration with Hart (FanShot). At least Hart seems to recognize a growing distaste for him among many fans, but unless he demonstrates an ability to stop swinging at terrible pitches, I'm not sure it will help.
If you attended Brewers On Deck over the weekend, you were one of 10,638 fans to do so. Adam McCalvy has a roundup from the event, but here are the stories that caught my eye:
- Prince Fielder doesn't see any urgency to sign an extension this offseason.
- He also moved into a new house this winter with an indoor pool and a home gym, and is working to keep his weight down.
- David Riske is hoping to be ready by Opening Day but acknowledges it's a long shot. He also blames Mike Maddux for his elbow injury and extended absence.
- Doug Davis' wife Chantelle drew some cheers from the crowd by announcing an appreciation for brats and beer.
- Former Brewer pitching coach Bill Castro has accepted a job within the organization, working with pitchers from Latin America.
- Wezen-ball has a look at the bullpen cart, and some notes (real and otherwise) on its history.
- Gregg Zaun, Carlos Villanueva and Manny Parra combined to hold the least interesting chat with fans I've ever read.
Speaking of Zaun, Chuck Brownson of The Hardball Times is projecting him to throw out 20.7% of attempted base stealers this season, leaving him 4.2 runs below average. It's hard to tell if that will be enough to please the fan who thought the 38 year old was a rookie at Ken Macha's Q and A session.
Carlos Gomez wasn't at On Deck this weekend, but he is the subject of the best music video ever to contain a ukelele solo.
Speaking of Gomez, it's possible you'll get a chance to see him tomorrow afternoon as MLB Network televises the Caribbean World Series. Martin Maldonado's Puerto Rican team also won their league championship over the weekend, clinching a berth.
Brian Anderson also chatted with fans this weekend about multiple Brewer topics and breaking into broadcasting. You can read the full transcript here.
It's projection season, and Dan Szymborski of Baseball Think Factory released the Brewers' ZiPS projections yesterday (FanShot). There's not a lot there to get excited about...only five Brewer hitters (Fielder, Ryan Braun, Ricke Weeks, Hart and Jody Gerut) project to have an OPS+ over 100, and only three starters (Yovani Gallardo, Randy Wolf and Doug Davis) project to be above average in ERA+.
With that said, they're still better than PECOTA. Baseball Prospectus noticed a glitch over the weekend and adjusted their projections, moving the Brewers from 75 to 77 wins, and 895 runs allowed to 805. That's likely closer to accurate, but still has the Brewers winning four fewer games than the 81-81 Nationals.
I'm guessing, given the choice, most readers here would take Ryan Braun over Troy Tulowitzki, but as backtocali notes over at Beyond the Box Score, it's closer than you might think, and a case can be made for Tulo.
In the minors:
- Project Prospect released their top 25 prospect list, and has Alcides Escobar #11.
- As Rattler Radio noted, Keith Law listed 2009 Timber Rattler Efrain Nieves among his players who could vault onto his top 100 list in 2011.
- Speaking of the Timber Rattlers, they need your help selecting a right fielder for their 15th anniversary team.
He's out for 2010 but not forgotten: Mark DiFelice is one of the latest installments in Baseball Musings' Players A to Z series.
In predictions, rankings and whatnot:
- The Dugout Doctors predict the Brewers will finish third in the Central, behind the Cubs and Cardinals (I think? The story doesn't say it outright.)
- Brewers Daily has a look at additions and subtractions in the NL Central this offseason.
Around baseball:
Angels: Avoided arbitration with pitcher Joe Saunders (terms unknown).
Athletics: Signed Gabe Gross to a one year, $750,000 deal and avoided arbitration with pitcher Michael Wuertz, who signed a two year, $5.25 million deal.
Giants: Avoided arbitration with closer Brian Wilson, who will earn $4.4375 million in 2010.
Marlins: Signed pitchers Derrick Turnbow and Jose Veras and infielder Danny Richar to minor league deals.
Mets: Signed Frank Catalanotto and Josh Fogg to minor league deals (FanShot).
Nationals: Signed pitcher Miguel Batista to a minor league deal.
Rangers: Avoided arbitration with Scott Feldman, who will earn $2.425 million in 2010.
Reds: Signed Orlando Cabrera to a one year deal worth $3 million, with a $3 million team option for 2011 ($1 million buyout).
Rockies: Signed Melvin Mora to a one year, $1.3 million deal.
I'm not sure it's been mentioned anywhere yet, but Yovani Gallardo will be arbitration eligible for the first time following the 2010 season, and could become a free agent following the 2013 season. The Brewers might be very interested observers as Justin Verlander and the Tigers attempt to hammer out a deal: The Tigers have reportedly offered five years and $75 million, but Verlander is seeking a sixth year. A five year deal would buy out Verlander's last two arbitration seasons and three free agent years.
If you weren't around this weekend, you may want to scroll down or click here and read parts one and two of FtJ's three part interview with former Brewer Brad Woodall. Part three will run later today, and the series is a great look into Woodall's career, insights on the 2010 Brewers and his current work.
While Woodall works with the next next generation of players, The New York Times has a look at Major League Baseball's offseason camp for prospects, to help prepare them for life in the big leagues (h/t Craig Calcaterra).
Most, if not all of the players at that camp likely appear in John Sickels' 2010 Prospect Book, which is now shipping. I'm typically pretty cheap when it comes to buying baseball materials: after all, I spend half the day just trying to read all the free stuff. Sickels' book is one of my few exceptions, though, and if you're a minor league enthusiast or just want to learn more about prospects, I'd highly recommend it.
If Gord Ash had his way, the draft process used to obtain those prospects would see a significant shift. The Toronto Star has an interview with Ash where he suggests shortening the draft from 50 rounds to 25 and adding international players.
And finally, we move from baseball's future to a sad story on its past: The Canadian Press has a story on the financial problems facing the Negro League Museum in Kansas City.
Happy birthday today to:
- 2009 Nashville Sound Erick Almonte, who turns 32.
- 1999 Brewer Rich Becker, who turns 38.
Drink up.
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I went to the Negro League Museum a couple of years ago
Loved it. It’s in the same building as the jazz museum, so the two of them make for a great afternoon.
It would be a real shame if that place closed down.
I have yet to go
But Joe Posnanski is not a fan of the direction the current leadership has taken, and will elaborate more later this week. stay tuned.
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
I was intrigued by Corey's "the fans don't like me" comment ...
but I was more interested in his proclamation that he has a “thick skin” and doesn’t let the negative stuff bother him.
Really? Aren’t you the same guy who said:
“A guy makes an error, a guy strikes out and you hear your home town booing you. It makes you ready to get out of there and go somewhere else for awhile. I think we’re all looser here.”
Yeah, if he has thick skin, he wouldn't say, "I know I have fans that don't like me."
He just wouldn’t care about it.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Isnt that kind of oxymoronic?
Can you be a “fan” and not like someone?
None of us has the makeup (probably) to be a professional athlete, but from what I understand, if they are doing their job right, and completely focused, fan “noise” is something that they dont even hear.
I think he’s a nice guy, but he hasnt really performed well since making the 08 All Star game. To squabble over the amount that is on the table seems a bit silly. He probably thinks he was grossly underpaid for his services up to that All Star game and is trying to make up for it with this years contract.
BtB
Thanks for the link Kyle.
I was pretty surprised when I woke up on Saturday morning and saw my FanPost as the Front Page story.
I was just beginning to be interested inSabermetrics the year that Braun/Tulo were the 1, 2 in the NL ROY award, so these two players will forever be linked for me in a certain way.
I encourage people to go over and post your thoughts on the analysis.
I have a Rockies fan friend
Who likes to go over this debate with me every few months. I’ve long ago conceded that Tulo should have won the 07 ROY, but he’s totally up and down as to which he’d rather have now. As of last May, he said it was Braun, no question. Now he says Tulo is more valuable than any hitter in the NL other than Pujols.
At least Braun is consistent.
by Cheeseandcorn on Feb 1, 2010 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
True
I didnt really look at Tulo’s injury in 08, although as someone posted on the article, niether are likely to occur. I think he was suffering from a hamstring problem early in that year that slowed him a bit, and then he sliced up his hand breaking a bat in frustration.
Both are fun to watch and Braun is putting up the monster offensive numbers. But as I mentioned above, I never realized how much value Tulo has until I started learing about stats like WAR and defensive factos. Ive yet to see Tulo play in person, but will hopefully this year in the opening series at MP.
Tulo has a cannon for an arm.
I love watching him throw across the infield.
Taking shallowness to new depths -- FtJ's blog
by Fatter than Joey on Feb 1, 2010 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
Agree with taking Hart to arby...but not with taking it public
I’d like to see Hart make a statement with his bat instead of his mouth, but that said I’m surprised the Brewers went negative on him in the press. Frankly, Teddy Werner came across as pretty immature and in over his head…“we’ll see you in Tampa” and “they think we’re bluffing, but we’re not”. He’d better be wiling to stand his ground, or he loses all credibility.
I wonder how long he's been the negotiator.
Gord Ash was getting negative on him, too.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Why?
The Brewers could save time, energy and hurt feelings if they just paid Hart his number now, rather than going thru the hearing and then paying him his number.
When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved
by Getting Yosted on Feb 1, 2010 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
He'll get over it
Its hard ball. It’s not personal, it’s business. Things will be fine..
I personally am happy that DM is going to arbitration. I’m not convinced that having a perfect record is good, after awhile players will ask for more and more knowing that Dm won’t call their bluff.
If Hart wants the extra 900k, he’ll have to earn it by playing well. He’s not a great fielder, and hacks at the plate. We could get the same results with a much cheaper player. The only reason he’s making millions is because our club didn’t give up on him.. so he can thank the club for allowing him to have a chance to make millions instead of bitching about how the fans hurts his wittle feelings.
Its not bluffing when you actuallly have the best hand
Found this explanation of what factors into the arb decision:
(1) the player’s contribution to the club in terms of performance and leadership;
(2) the club’s record and its attendance;
(3) any and all of the player’s "special accomplishments," including All-Star game appearances, awards won, and postseason performance;
(4) the salaries of comparable players in the player’s service-time class and, for players with less than five years of service, the class one year ahead of him.
I just don’t see how the Brewer’s win. #2, #3 and #4 all go against the Brewers. #4 the hardest because Frenchy just signed for $5mil in his second year of arb, has worse offensive numbers, is comparable defensively(Rtot at Baseball-Reference) but has a better arm.
I guess the Brewers can argue that Hart is injury prone and could miss time again because of another appendix issue so he doesn’t deserve the money, but that may be a tough sell.
When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved
by Getting Yosted on Feb 1, 2010 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
it's not about hart
my personal first rule of negotiating is, never make a public ultimatum unless you are absolutely convinced you are going to see it through. So if Hart goes to arby I’m fine. If however we settle, particularly at a number that is north of the midpoint, what agent is ever going to believe this guy in the future when he sets a line in the sand. Seems like Werner’s own personal frustration with Hart led to what I think was a stupid tactic move, big picture in mind.
I finally figured out where Yost got his naming convention from:
Bobby Cox on Hudson: “He’s an ace. We forget that. Huddy, before he went down was an ace and still is in my mind.”
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only three starters (Yovani Gallardo, Randy Wolf and Doug Davis) project to be above average in ERA+.
The ZiPS projections aren’t too promising, but how many above-average starting pitchers do you want the Brewers to have? 3 above average is, well, above-average.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
Considering we had four starters with an ERA+ under 80 last year,
Having three over 100 would be quite an improvement
It is what it is.
That's fair.
I was more disappointed by the hitters.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
Still 5/8 hitters isn't bad either.
Yes there are more than 8 hitters on the team, but there will only be 8 in the lineup on any given night, and 4 of the 5 above 100+ should expect to see significant playing time, with Gerut being the only exception.
Applying Simpsons and Star Wars quotes to Brewers discussions since 2009.
Especially with Fielder and Braun so high above 100
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Was thinking the same thing
3 starters above 100+ ERA really is something to get excited about
captainbok: What do you like the most about milwaukee
Jeff Suppan: Captain Bok, that is a great question. Does "Bok" mean Book of Knowledge? My favorite thing about Milwaukee are the Brewers.
Was this you, JAMOOL?
here. You might have to scroll up a little.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Agreed
three starters with anERA+ ove 100 sounds a lot better that the one we had last year.
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
by BrewHaHeather on Feb 1, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
On Deck
After waiting in line for 3+ hours at On Deck for Prince’s autograph, I asked him if they were still going to untuck next year. I’m sure you’ll be glad to know that his answer was not only a “yes” but a “definately yes.”
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
by BrewHaHeather on Feb 1, 2010 2:40 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd
And FanShotted to the front page so everyone will see it.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
Rec'd for waiting in line for 3+ hours
And not being completely p.o.’ed.
Not so much the other thing.
DD's wife is cool
She used to work with a buddy of mine, and she came out for drinks with us after work once. Good times.
I was drunk. Sue me.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Feb 1, 2010 6:18 PM CST reply actions
Congrats Heather!
I’m glad to hear that you got your Prince autograph, I got there at 7:15 am and by 1 pm I had my jersey signed by Yount.
Blow Cubs Blow! Blow Cubs Blow! Hey Milwaukee, what do you say? The Cubs are going to lose today.
I wish I had gotten there a lot earlier like you told me to
My sister didn’t want to get up that early so we didn’t get there until 9
"A D+ Grade? That must have been a Wittardo grade"- @73_MC
by BrewHaHeather on Feb 1, 2010 7:08 PM CST up reply actions
22 lbs?
Hart claims to have lost 22 lbs? Does Hart have 22 lbs to lose?? Of course, that’s a sack lunch for Prince…….






























